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This phone has the worst build quality ever.

My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.

Pictures?

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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think you were just very unlucky (or else they were trollin' and kept sending you the same one back lol)
my second one isnt 100% perfect, but for me even a 100% perfect galaxy s4 wouldnt be close to tempting me away from a 99% perfect One.

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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FYI, the Nexus 4 was made by LG...
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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i think this phone build quality is really great if i'm honest, the Samsungs plastic feel/build quality is a lot worse, perhaps you were just unlucky in the handsets you received out of the box

We have more than few threads discussing imperfections and issues on early batch
HTC subtly admitted it when they delayed the entire launch and specifically mentioned camera and casing as the reason, yes they called it short of supplies but it actually meant they discovered low yields
Anyway all you can do is either wait for the April batches and exchange or start now until u get a perfect one
What is for sure however what you have now is not a proper representation for this device final build quality
keywords: Defect, Warranty
We had the same drama during the One X, defects cleared within 2 months, or took me 2 exchanges, my final one was manufactured in April

Enjoy the GS4 :thumbup:
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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in 13 march you said
,,I want plastic, I want a removable battery and a Micro SD. You know the only reason they want to design these features out is cause it saves money, they can charge for cloud storage and they blame a removable battery and Micro SD for helping piracy along. It's all about stopping your choice and the irony of it is, taking these features out probably costs less, is less premium and these "premium" metal and glass materials just means more money for this companies in repairs, especially with a non removable battery.,,
and you didn,t like either htc one camera
,,The camera has a lot of noise, not very sharp either,,
but you still bought HTC ONE, and also changed TWICE...
VERY INTERSTING FACTS

I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?

Pictures of your defects please or don't blame anyone accusing of trolling

Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx

djbenny1 said:
are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx
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Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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Yeah you clearly stated you would never own a phone without an SD slot or removable battery. You either changed your mind from a very long winded statement bashing the one or your trolling. And three phones? You have had three defective phones Sent to you?
With a delayed launch and low inventory and the phone just released you have been able to get three phones?
Bull****
Edit. This is obviously a troll thread and should be closed
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Just another f*cking (HTC-)Hater/(Samsung-)Fanboy...
Nothing to note here.
Hater or Fanboy... whatever... IGNORE...
Objective opinion...
Subjective opinion...
There is no perfect phone
There is also no scrapphone (except I(gitt...)Phone) :laugh:
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He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Dam trolls!

fernando sor said:
He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Sounds a lot like he just took information from threads where people said they didn't like x feature, combined them all into one massive "I hate this phone" thread, and probably doesn't even own the phone.

I was wondering how he could see dead pixel on 468 PPI
I'm loving my HTC One. What a phone
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it wouldn't be a surprise, its not the first thread of such nature

New year - new rant

There is nothing ''premium'' about this phone, and the price is unjustifiable.
Google has basically out right copied Apple/Iphone, in relation to Apple's business model (relating to the iphone 6/6s/7). Talk about a major cop out.
There is absolutely no innovation in the new pixel phones. None at all. It even has a sub par basic dac, and a tinny sounding bottom speaker. Even the design is basic and retro, and the marketing is just like apple's. All this spewing of this device being ''premium'' from almost all reviewers on youtube (which, for some reason, all are stating the same caption being ''the best android phone around'' makes me wonder whether google are imposing the same tactics that apple uses by inadvertently paying for good reviews).
So what, you make a basic handset, but charge hundreds for it, and now automatically it falls into the region of being premium?
Is this some sort of joke? Google is really going to charge consumers over £700 when it isn't even worth that much.
If they really wanted to compete with apple, then at least place high quality components into the device, as apple do.
So from now on people, unfortunately what we will have for the next few years, is googles new business model, which will be near on identical to apple's. So next years new pixel phones probably may omit a headphone jack, a slightly more vibrant screen and a different letter or two placed next the the pixel name to differentiate it from the previous models, but no real substantial innovation or forward thinking. Great.
It sucks. I use to experience excitement these last few years, as each year, regarding the nexus line, excitement and talk would build on who was going to build the next nexus, etc etc, and now that has all gone down the pan.
I wont be buying it. That is for sure.
I can even imagine them being unrootable..

*Yawn*

Don't buy it.

So there's nothing "premium" about this device? Not the build quality, processor, experience, or any other combination? Lay off the wine this early in the day.

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I can even imagine them being unrootable..
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:laugh: Ok, pal. Talk about a worthless thread.

I guess I'm to blame. Shouldn't of had such high expectations.
I look at samsung (edge series), motorola (modular z series), LG (modular series), One plus (high specs low cost), htc (Audio) I see innovation, and all I see with these new pixel phones is basically a carbon copy of Iphone. Even the business/marketing model. Its practically identical.

So long and thanks for the fish...

Rado_vr6 said:
So there's nothing "premium" about this device? Not the build quality, processor, experience, or any other combination? Lay off the wine this early in the day.
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It's a £700 plus phone. It's not water resistant, and has no dual stereo speakers.
Reviewers have noted that the DAC is awful. The headphone output alone is rate at 0.45 volts. How can this be a premium phone? or even be classed as one, especially at that price point?
The only thing that is really going for it is the software optimisation, which will obviously be neigh on perfect... just as it had been on the cheaper nexus 5, nexus 6, and nexus 6p (all of which were priced under £500 upon release) :/

Got mine today it's going straight back tomorrow. First off all I'm done with white phones for good, they look cheap no matter which brand iPhone, Samsung, Google. Secondly there's a huge gap at the top of the screen close to the headphone jack which really makes me question the overall build quality. Lastly the back when people said it was gonna be ugly I said OK let's wait see what it looks like for real but man it's hideous. It doesn't look white at all but more like some sort of pearlish coating. No way I'm paying 900€ for this.

This was my complaint as well. They are competing with Samsung and Apple, but what do they have to offer over those two? Samsung and Apple have water resistance, Samsung also has smaller bezels, a MicroSD card slot, and Samsung Pay, while Apple also has a dual camera system. Those are features that make it worth the price. The Pixel is a generic looking device that isn't bloated, but then again that's not a benefit over Apple which also isn't bloated and offers OS updates for twice as long as Google.

withdrawn said:
There is nothing ''premium'' about this phone, and the price is unjustifiable.
Google has basically out right copied Apple/Iphone, in relation to Apple's business model (relating to the iphone 6/6s/7). Talk about a major cop out.
There is absolutely no innovation in the new pixel phones. None at all. It even has a sub par basic dac, and a tinny sounding bottom speaker. Even the design is basic and retro, and the marketing is just like apple's. All this spewing of this device being ''premium'' from almost all reviewers on youtube (which, for some reason, all are stating the same caption being ''the best android phone around'' makes me wonder whether google are imposing the same tactics that apple uses by inadvertently paying for good reviews).
So what, you make a basic handset, but charge hundreds for it, and now automatically it falls into the region of being premium?
Is this some sort of joke? Google is really going to charge consumers over £700 when it isn't even worth that much.
If they really wanted to compete with apple, then at least place high quality components into the device, as apple do.
So from now on people, unfortunately what we will have for the next few years, is googles new business model, which will be near on identical to apple's. So next years new pixel phones probably may omit a headphone jack, a slightly more vibrant screen and a different letter or two placed next the the pixel name to differentiate it from the previous models, but no real substantial innovation or forward thinking. Great.
It sucks. I use to experience excitement these last few years, as each year, regarding the nexus line, excitement and talk would build on who was going to build the next nexus, etc etc, and now that has all gone down the pan.
I wont be buying it. That is for sure.
I can even imagine them being unrootable..
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Honestly, ranting about a phone you don't own is pretty hilarious.

RonnieRuff said:
Honestly, ranting about a phone you don't own is pretty hilarious.
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It is hilarious. But, I do agree that they eventually need to support phones as long as Apple does. I think this will come eventually as they build their supply chain, which is probably contingent on the success of this phone, and begin to source components for manufacturing. I also see Google eventually being able to undercut the competitors slightly in pricing, or outdoing them with features and hardware. After all, they do produce the base that all Android OEMs use.

Ok, 24h later it's not that bad, but still not sure if I'm keeping it. The design does take some getting used to to say the least. I do very much love their wallpaper collection granted not a device feature at all but very nice all the same.

The back is indeed extremely ugly. But i've never NOT had a case on my smart phones, so it doesn't bother me since it's going to be covered up anyway. I always get bumper cases that have port covers to protect against the numerous amount of pocket lint that collects in my work pants, lol.
Just saw a YouTube video that suggests this phone may be more water resistant then Google is letting on. Survived submerged in water for an hour with the only problem being the speaker got messed up. But remember, this is only one test on one device. Still, very impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojQneS6Yts

Its a free enterprise and we have choices to spend our hard earned money on.
I for one will not be fooled by this Google hype. Mark my words by years end prices
will come down big time. Maybe just maybe I will consider. These phones are not worth
what they are asking. When they drop 200 on each model then I consider.
Looks like the Pixel battery life is not that great so the XL would be the only option.
If you are on ATT you get no HD calling and no WIFI calling.
I don't have to be redundant but we all know the missing features vs the iPhone 7 or Galaxy S7.
To those 2 the Pixel line cant hold a candle.
Problem is, the people who have taken the plunge will try to justify their purchase with any
rhetoric they can come up with. You will find out that you will not be able to resell next year for anything
near the iphone resale, to make matters worse, when the discounts come it will be even worse.
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The phone is definitely premium. Latest specs, amazing photos and videos, good screen, Unlocked bootloader. If lg or anyone else made this phone it would be the same price. Google didn't make it a phone killer for a reason. They don't want LG, Samsung and the rest of them to feel threatened. They need them to still make money. But if you forgotten the new iphone design is stolen from HTC.
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bobby janow said:
Edit: Offending post deleted. I fear this thread will come to no good as the premise is entirely negative with no redeeming value, imo. But it's up to the mods at this point.
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The bolded sentence says it all really doesn't it..
I created a thread about my purchasing/returning the nexus 5x, and i raised my concerns as to why, highlighting my dislikes, and you've gouded me ever since, because it happens to be the phone you use and are still using, one year on.
Need I say more.

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The bolded sentence says it all really doesn't it..
I created a thread about my purchasing/returning the nexus 5x, and i raised my concerns as to why, highlighting my dislikes, and you've gouded me ever since, because it happens to be the phone you use and are still using, one year on.
Need I say more.
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Yes, please. How do you like your new Pixel? Or did you get the Pixel XL? I'd love to hear your hands on review.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V30, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V30 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

This is my first Android device since the original Moto X, which I only purchased to find out a little about Android.
I was not impressed with the Apple rollout this year, even though I've bought a new iPhone every autumn for ten years. I don't like the fight between Apple and Qualcomm, which has caused them to turn off some features on the Qualcomm chips so that nobody who gets an Intel modem feels inferior.
So far I'm enjoying the V30, although I am having a problem getting used to the keyboard. I know that an iPhone will kick its ass in benchmarks, but for everyday use, it hasn't mattered much yet.
Tremendous audio with a headset, and not ½ bad audio through Bluetooth or tethering.

Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.

mistemuse said:
Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.
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Just asking, do you have the quad DAC enabled? It's a setting you have to turn on, not sure why it's not enabled by default.
There's also this, which is well-written and I'm quoting from another thread, one specifically devoted to the quad DAC and loudness:
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QuadDAC is not about loudness, it's about quality and fidelity of sound. It won't blow your eardrums with MP3s
It's not 75. Android has 16 grades of sound volume in stock, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... 15, 16.
16 being loudest. If every 15 is divided in 5 it's give us 75= 15*5
So that's why V20 has only 75 grades, it's not that there's some magic extra 25 to 100, for they don't exist in Android. But you may get like 34% of loudness or 68% which you can't have in another Android phones, for they have 5% steps only
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@mistemuse, you seem to be confusing the quad DAC with the amp.
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-audio-797447/
The chip features stereo quad parallel delta sigma converter channels with a 32-bit interpolation filter for a low noise conversion process, which ESS calls its HyperStream II architecture. For the spec insatiable audiophiles, the ES9218 boasts 2.0Vrms output, 130 dB SNR and -114 dB Total Harmonic Distortion, and support for up to 32-bit 384kHz PCM and DSD256 file formats. Of course, real world additional circuit performance, required drive from the amp, and input file type will affect these stats somewhat, but they’re impressive nonetheless.
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But it should be loud enough if you have it enabled.

Yes, the DAC is automatically enabled as soon as I plug-in my cans. But really, weather it's enabled or not the degree of loudness appears the same to me. Also, before I bought this phone I thought I read many claims that the v30 in addition to a DAC, also had an amp as well. Maybe I was just being hope-full. In regards to the Android grade system that is mentioned, one need look no further than Phone Arena reviews, where they measure headphone output, and the v30 finished below the Note. One would think that if you were to brag about the audio in a phone that loudness would be cranked up as well because I do not know any audio lover that doesn't like their music loud. If HTC can do it why not LG?

This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?

Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.

Rideit12 said:
This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?
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No, you didn't really miss anything. There are people who are apologists for bad designs. (Any phone without a headset jack.) Apple isn't "Bluetooth only" -- but by removing the headset jack they are forcing you in that direction. You can't listen and charge at the same time (with the dongle they provide).
OR you can BUY a $35 dongle which lets you listen and charge at the same time. Apple took away functionality and then charging you money to add it back.
You have to carry an extra dongle around, which you can lose. Or you can buy their expensive headset buds. BINGO! After making fun of Apple last year for doing that, Google joined them this year in the biggest show of hypocrisy in a long, long time.
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Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.
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Yes, one of many dongles Apple makes -- so you can have back the functionality they took away in the first place.
You have to carry dongles around, which you can lose -- instead of having the 3.5mm headset jack in the first place. LG and Samsung have IP68 (higher) rating WITH a headset jack than Apple's IP67 rating WITHOUT a headset jack. So, had nothing to do with water/dust resistance, but instead trying to force you to use their pricey Bluetooth earbuds.
Samsung even made a video mocking Apple for such nonsense (including other dubious design decisions over the years).
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No password possible?
Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...

I thought this review reflected the V30 very well. Also, the reference to the iPhone X having a unibrow sums up my take on that.

Rideit12 said:
Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...
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The only problem with that is your display then is never locked. It's unlocked. You stick your phone in your pocket and the display can turn on and is ACTIVE. You can accidentally dial people, send garbled text messages, turn on apps, etc. aka "butt dialing", due to pressure on the active display. You really need to not only turn off the display, but lock it. Even a swipe gesture can be simulated with pressure in your pocket. I've seen many people complain about it, but the only solution is to lock the display so it can only be unlocked with a pattern/pin/fingerprint.
I set my phone to lock the display immediately every time I turn off the display. I then use a pattern to unlock the display when I turn it back on. When I get my LG V30, I will most probably use the fingerprint sensor.

Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.

galr said:
Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.
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Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?

kolembo said:
Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?
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Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.

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Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.
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I've got the unlocked v30 in silver. Overall, I'm happy so far, but not wowed by the design. It is nice and light and thin. I agree with your comments about the curved screen. I'm glad that the v30 screen is less curved than others. I went with a wet application screen guard made by skinomi. Happy with it so far. The edges haven't peeled up. If you go this route, you need to spend a lot of time with the installation to make sure the edges stay down. Hairdryer was key for me.
I'm coming from a LG G5. The one thing I noticed was that the whites were way whiter on the g5 than the v30.
Regarding your comment on viewing angles, how did you come to that opinion? I find them to be quite good. Did you run a test or use a display app to analyze the angles or is it just your day to day experience?

Chiming in for the V30S, essentially similar to V30 except for bump to 6GB RAM and 128GB internal storage.
I'm extremely happy with this phone.
With Soundmagic E80 headphones which trigger high impedance mode of the HiFi DAC set to "slow" filter, the audio is phenomenal - this is the main reason I bought this phone. The SD835 with 6GB is much smoother and faster than my previous phone with SD808 and 3GB. Display is fine, none of the issues reported with early V30's, the "comfort mode" to reduce blue light is a plus too. Fingerprint reader works well, a new convenience for me. Lighter and thinner than my last phone. Great battery performance. QC 3.0 is a substantial improvement over QC 2.0 and there are a lot of aftermarket chargers which also means some with safety certifications. Bootloader unlock and root, with the stuff you can do with that including Ti Backup with the bloatware freezing , AdAway, and YouTube adaway and background play (thanks XDA community!). IP68 and some degree of ruggedness. I load FLACs to feed the DAC so 128 GB storage was nice to find with the added SD slot (watching for mass market 512GB cards soon).
Only a couple niggles: The WiFi (client mode) does not handle same-SSID AP handoffs very well, it hangs my app streaming FLACs from an NAS when a handoff occurs (my last two phones could keep the app going through a handoff). Not a showstopper, the workaround is to use a single 2.4GHz AP so no handoff occurs (2.4GHz has enough range to cover my whole house). The longer screen makes one-handed use more difficult at times, trying to reach both the top and bottom which are father apart. Um, that's about it for the negatives so far. Others may have more problems but I keep things simple, no auto-brightness, no voice assistant, Nova Launcher with the obnoxious Google search field banished, no active wallpaper, LG keyboard replaced with Gboard minus the fancy stuff, privacy invasions, and built-in Google search, etc.
Really pleased so far. The B&H $250 discount deal was nice too, getting all this at the discounted price is a great deal.

Coming from the Apple environment, I'm very pleased. I've rediscovered that you CAN configure your phone to suit your personality and your needs, rather than what Apple thinks that we should consider important. And I'm absolutely ecstatic to still be using my wired headphone... and no... I don't care what the Bluetooth consortium maintains, Bluetooth 5 still does not come close to the quality and reliability of a quality pair of headphones through a properly supported 3.5 headphone jack. Apple is making a mint out of royalties to ensure compatibility with their wireless connected devices, (not to mention those ugly wireless headset they sell for around $149). Sure, I miss Facetime. And to a certain extent I also miss iMessage. But I'll stick to a device that I can use in accordance to my own needs... not Apple's. Pretty happy with my LG V30 ThinQ, so far.

Very satisfying device overall, coming back to LG, after the G4. Had Nokia 8 and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 in between.

My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.

figer said:
My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.
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I know. This V30 series and the 2018 V35 -- which was an upgraded V30 (basically a V40 built in a V30 frame with NO notch) -- was the height of design and functionality. If only I could find the 128GB V35+... (only shipped to Brazil and I can't find any online).

Verizon has the Pixel2's in store on the floor

I just left the Verizon store in Sugar Land, they have Hands-On units to play with if you guys are interested.

What's your hands-on review?

I thought about going in to check one out. Then I decided not to torture myself like that. I gave up masochism years ago.

I played with one today for about 2 minutes in a store by my house and I liked it. It was noticeably snappier than my 6p and felt great in my hand. Didn't have time to mess with camera but I'm now even more excited to get my 2 xl in 2 weeks (or less)
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What's your hands-on review?
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I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.

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I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?

[email protected] said:
I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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As I walked into Verizon they were about to mount the pixel 2 xl so they let me play with it before they mounted and it felt really great in the hand, alot lighter than I anticipated, and the texture on the metal felt suprising premium, I thought it was going to feel like a cheap phone case

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Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?
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I'm an Android purist. I go through phones like nobody's business. Ive always kept a Nexus or Pixel, as phones get released, I pick one up. This year I've had the Pixel XL, all year, along with it I had iPhone 7+, G6, S8 plus, Note 8, V30, in that order, as they are released. Before that, rinse and repeat.
I say this to express that the V30 is by far the hardest to leave behind, I may not. It's sleek, fast and checks ALL of the boxes, except Pure Android, and dual speakers.
The pixel misses, the wireless charging, and expandable storage.
The killer feature I was going to pass on the Pixel for is the 71 band for TMobile, but sadly it a year and a half from being deployed in my area.
You will not go won't with the V30. It is awesome! Best phone I've used to date... And that's AALLLL of them worth checking out.
But the speakers man, the speakers. The pure Android experience... Ridiculously pleasant to use for me.

Got my hands on one today as well
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How is screen quality against samsung?
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I'll go this weekend and compare with my N8
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If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.

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I played with it yesterday, phone is nice but doesn't feel like a premium hardware specially when compared to Note 8 or V30.
Minus the pure Android and Camera - it's like many chinese branded $400 - $500 phone.

I didn't get that at all

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If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.
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I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.

Here are some photos of the 2xl and side by side with a screen burned Pixel XL
I also made sure the brightness was a 50% for both phones. You can see the POLED screen looks brighter.

XL2 Screen looks great, and those bezels look so much better!

Bxrider117 said:
I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.
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I went back today and enabled developers options. And the bootloader is definitely locked. So glad I ordered mine from Google and completely unlocked. I spent more time with it today and it's a terrific phone. Snappy and the screen looked great. Brightness was all the way up and I didn't try to make any adjustments. Phone feels good and looks good. I understand why some people prefer the LG v30 and it's a great alternative but I think the 2 xl will make plenty of people happy.
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I tested it out today as well and didn't get a "plastic-feeling" phone. The metal had a grainy texture to it and felt quite nice. I tested the XL since that's what I ordered. Didn't bother with the regular one. People said there was a "coating" on the metal, but I didn't seem to notice one like on the G5. That one felt like it had a clear rubber case on the metal.

Thanks for those pics @Bxrider117
Had to go the upsstore today and the verizon next door on Tyvola Rd on my side of Charlotte did not have them in. Told the nicer of the two guys I was interested in seeing the poled screen, explained how I'd heard on xda of the banding and not good quality in the other thread. One guy swooped in on me telling me how I could know or even say that for a phone that hasn't been released yet! I told him that the good verizon stores had demos. What a dummy, HIS store is supposed to have them but they said the google rep could not get any for them.
Yea right. "Believe half of what I see, and none of what I hear......Talkin' `bout my friend George" *Lou Reed
Your pics do give me some assurance that I won't have to send my blk64g 2xl back when it gets here!

Morbid - Which phone would you go with if there was no PH-2 in the works?

Which phone would you replace your PH-1 with?
I am curious about the Samsung 10 but I am just not a fan of anything that has a skin and "bloatware". That being said, my personal choice would be the Google Pixel 3 (XL or lite) or the OnePlus 6T. Without an immeadiate fix to my issue with the glass on the screen loosening, I think I would lean towards the Pixel 3 XL because of the battery life. I am not a fan of the size but the lite just seems to just miss the mark with the PH-1. I know it sounds crazy but the PH-1, I think, is the perfect size phone...for the most part. I think its a little too thick but other than that, perfect.

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Which phone would you replace your PH-1 with?
I am curious about the Samsung 10 but I am just not a fan of anything that has a skin and "bloatware". That being said, my personal choice would be the Google Pixel 3 (XL or lite) or the OnePlus 6T. Without an immeadiate fix to my issue with the glass on the screen loosening, I think I would lean towards the Pixel 3 XL because of the battery life. I am not a fan of the size but the lite just seems to just miss the mark with the PH-1. I know it sounds crazy but the PH-1, I think, is the perfect size phone...for the most part. I think its a little too thick but other than that, perfect.
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I agree about the size of the ph1. It's not thick though. In fact I could go for more battery and thiccness. It is a bit heavy.

All of the listed phones are much more expensive but - for me - no option to replace PH-1. What do they have what PH-1 doesn't have? Slightly better camera, maybe better screen, external SD card and wirelass charging. But PH-1 has - in my opinion - better size, design, material, software & updates, doesn't need an additional case and hardware is good enough for at least next 2 or 3 years. Maybe I'll use it until foldable phones have become mainstream.

pocophone and flash a treble rom

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pocophone and flash a treble rom
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I just vomited reading ^that. To each their own I suppose.
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Phones put me off for a number of years. $800 for a phone you can't even root! Looked at low price options and happened upon the PH-1 for $300. Id of paid full price had i known, best phone i've ever owned. Even made my wife an android convert. Makes me afraid to think about the day its too outdated.

epidemike said:
Which phone would you replace your PH-1 with?
I am curious about the Samsung 10 but I am just not a fan of anything that has a skin and "bloatware". That being said, my personal choice would be the Google Pixel 3 (XL or lite) or the OnePlus 6T. Without an immeadiate fix to my issue with the glass on the screen loosening, I think I would lean towards the Pixel 3 XL because of the battery life. I am not a fan of the size but the lite just seems to just miss the mark with the PH-1. I know it sounds crazy but the PH-1, I think, is the perfect size phone...for the most part. I think its a little too thick but other than that, perfect.
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I would consider a Pixel at this cheaper price
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-pixel-3-xl-google-store-discount/
Though Googles excessive data mining & privacy invasion is a severe drawback .... Chinese phones even worse so no way I'd get one of those (unless the CCP get kicked out). I was considering a Librem phone (though had second thoughts and didn't fund when I found some of the chips were Chinese company design)
see no 5
https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/
so for now it would still be the PH-1

swiftbones74 said:
I just vomited reading ^that. To each their own I suppose.
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I switched from my essential to the poco. You'd be surprised how good this phone is. The essential is a solid phone, no doubt about it, but im very pleased with the bigger screen, bigger battery, headphone jack(yay!) and a ton of rom support(bit of a flashaholic, ph1 is the only phone i didnt feel the need to flash other roms to). I miss the looks and comfort of the ph1, but im happy with my switch.

luisoman2000 said:
I switched from my essential to the poco. You'd be surprised how good this phone is. The essential is a solid phone, no doubt about it, but im very pleased with the bigger screen, bigger battery, headphone jack(yay!) and a ton of rom support(bit of a flashaholic, ph1 is the only phone i didnt feel the need to flash other roms to). I miss the looks and comfort of the ph1, but im happy with my switch.
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Do you live in the US?
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Not sure why the OnePlus 6T is not getting selected more. I would even say get the OnePlus 6 since it had a headphone jack and a real fingerprint sensor.

I went from Essential PH-1 to the Pixel 2XL. Much better all around phone. Not sure I'd buy a PH-2. The PH-1 was kind of a train wreck.
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All of the listed phones are much more expensive but - for me - no option to replace PH-1. What do they have what PH-1 doesn't have? Slightly better camera, maybe better screen, external SD card and wirelass charging. But PH-1 has - in my opinion - better size, design, material, software & updates, doesn't need an additional case and hardware is good enough for at least next 2 or 3 years. Maybe I'll use it until foldable phones have become mainstream.
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Some of the newer phones have a much better camera, stereo speakers and more water resistance (IP 67/68). Even my Nexus 5x took higher quality pictures than the PH-1. There was also the issue with poor cell reception on certain carriers.
Not needing a case isn't really a benefit of owning the PH-1. The materials are premium but it's not a scratch or shatter proof phone.
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I went from Essential PH-1 to the Pixel 2XL. Much better all around phone. Not sure I'd buy a PH-2. The PH-1 was kind of a train wreck.
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Some of the newer phones have a much better camera, stereo speakers and more water resistance (IP 67/68). Even my Nexus 5x took higher quality pictures than the PH-1. There was also the issue with poor cell reception on certain carriers.
Not needing a case isn't really a benefit of owning the PH-1. The materials are premium but it's not a scratch or shatter proof phone.
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Seabro, I think going without case is a benefit to a lot of people that prefer not using a case. I would never go full nude with a phone and really enjoyed my Dbrand skin (even though their IG has an odd sense of humor) on my ph-1. I didn't get the ph-1 at launch and I think that's why we are differing on opinions.
- stereo speakers, i'd use my head phones.
- IP6x, Im not using my phone while taking a leak or swimming so not a need for me.
- the ph-1 camera at launch was terrible but they've come a long way and with the gcam mods, I loved using it as my daily shooter.
Different folks, different strokes.
I went with the Pixel 3XL and it came with the Incipio case and I have to say it pretty unbearable. I do not have large hands and this case made it unwieldy. I stuck with the case until my dbrand skin came in on order. I wanted to test the phone out with just the skin on it before I returned it to the carrier for a Pixel 3. I went with the XL mainly for the 3400maH battery.
Without the case, its a much better feel in the hand but definitely needs a skin. It's super slippery naked <insert side eye>. I think I am going to stick with it but there are some things that I need to look into. I really do not like the home screen or that fact that I can't get rid of the search bar at the bottom and the time/date/weather up top.
Wish I could have waited till the fall like a smart person but
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Seabro, I think going without case is a benefit to a lot of people that prefer not using a case. I would never go full nude with a phone and really enjoyed my Dbrand skin (even though their IG has an odd sense of humor) on my ph-1. I didn't get the ph-1 at launch and I think that's why we are differing on opinions.
- stereo speakers, i'd use my head phones.
- IP6x, Im not using my phone while taking a leak or swimming so not a need for me.
- the ph-1 camera at launch was terrible but they've come a long way and with the gcam mods, I loved using it as my daily shooter.
Different folks, different strokes.
I went with the Pixel 3XL and it came with the Incipio case and I have to say it pretty unbearable. I do not have large hands and this case made it unwieldy. I stuck with the case until my dbrand skin came in on order. I wanted to test the phone out with just the skin on it before I returned it to the carrier for a Pixel 3. I went with the XL mainly for the 3400maH battery.
Without the case, its a much better feel in the hand but definitely needs a skin. It's super slippery naked <insert side eye>. I think I am going to stick with it but there are some things that I need to look into. I really do not like the home screen or that fact that I can't get rid of the search bar at the bottom and the time/date/weather up top.
Wish I could have waited till the fall like a smart person but
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Yeah, I did get my PH-1 shortly after launch and it was a mess. It took several months for Essential to provide a decent software experience. Even with all the issues and several warranty replacements, I stuck with the PH-1 until last March. The camera had improved but the color images were still inconsistent. Ended up needing a more reliable phone but II really liked the overall design, screen quality, in hand feel and size of the phone.
A nice skin like Dbrand or Slickwraps definitely feels better than most cases. It's a good option for those that rarely or never drop phones. Had a Dbrand on the PH-1 for the slippery back and using a Slickwraps on my 2 XL for some grip without adding any extra size.
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Do you live in the US?
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Nope, I live in central america. Had no problem with the LTE bands.

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Nope, I live in central america. Had no problem with the LTE bands.
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Yeah I'm happy for you. The POCO phone doesn't work well in the USA (at least not consistently well. Some people have reported part time LTE on at&t but most that use Poco in the states are using it on 3g . This is definitely not an option for me. I might consider it as my next phone if it did work, but 3g in a country turning 5g would be a giant step backwards from the ph-1. I am also on Verizon (my carrier) and Poco phone doesn't work at all. All the same, enjoy your newish phone.