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Who's getting a Nexus 7 from the shift community?

So as many of you might know the nexus 7 is now available for pre-order. I just ordered mine. Since it's a Nexus device all future firmware updates will be straight from Google and in a timely manner. There will also be a ton of dev support being a nexus device there will be a lot of amazing devs working on root, recoveries and such things. So again I ask, who plans on getting one?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_8gb
You can also view/track the development progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1677
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Me :-D
Shifted from Outer Space

It's also the first quad core tablet running a tega 3

i think im gonna wait until they release the 10.1 version

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i think im gonna wait until they release the 10.1 version
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Waiting is no fun man, live in the moment.

sparksco said:
It's also the first quad core tablet running a tega 3
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The transformer Prime already had the quad core Tegra 3

fayrarri said:
The transformer Prime already had the quad core Tegra 3
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Yeah my bad what I meant to say was it's the first android 4.1 quad core tablet. And it's also a nexus device :-D

Like the New Avatar . But as for the Nexus 7 unfortunately I'm going to have to wait .

prboy1969 said:
Like the New Avatar . But as for the Nexus 7 unfortunately I'm going to have to wait .
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Thanks I needed a new avatar and I like star wars lol.
Wait for the 10.1" screen? IDK personally I think larger screen=more battery drain so I'll be happy with the smaller screen and cheaper device. I can't afford these expensive tablets.

sparksco said:
Thanks I needed a new avatar and I like star wars lol.
Wait for the 10.1" screen? IDK personally I think larger screen=more battery drain so I'll be happy with the smaller screen and cheaper device. I can't afford these expensive tablets.
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i cant afford to keep up with devices either, im just a broke ass student but i already have a nook which is 7" so i might as well wait for the nexus 10.1 to get an actual tablet tablet i figure.

-somebody- said:
i cant afford to keep up with devices either, im just a broke ass student but i already have a nook which is 7" so i might as well wait for the nexus 10.1 to get an actual tablet tablet i figure.
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You do realize that a 10.1" screen is going to be more expensive right? Not sure what you mean by an actual tablet when the only difference if going to be the screen size. I like the size I don't want something too big or too expensive. You could sell your nook and afford the nexus now lol. To each their own.

I'm running ICS on the 7 inch kindle fire and the size on that is what's stopped me from getting the nexus 7... tho jellybean is really tempting...
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Yeah I'm well aware of the screen size lol. My father has a Kindle Fire (told me not to root it the first time I saw it) and the size is fine with me. But yeah the quad core with android 4.1 for $200 is what sold me.

I had the HTC flyer for about a week before returning seeing as I used the money on a tv and Google tv but I live 7.1 screen size. For me its not too big and not too small, granted I'm not the biggest guy around lol. It fits comfortably in two hands without having to really stretch out your fingers to type. Personal opinion in the whole 7.1 vs 10.1 inch
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sparksco said:
Yeah I'm well aware of the screen size lol. My father has a Kindle Fire (told me not to root it the first time I saw it) and the size is fine with me. But yeah the quad core with android 4.1 for $200 is what sold me.
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It all comes down to personal preference. If they came out with a 10 inch one, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Currently thinking about getting the Transformer Pad Infinity... but man does technology move too fast... i hate getting something and finding out 2 days later that a newer faster one is out in a couple months for the same price haha
Im sure the nexus 7 is gonna be a beast though. Quad core + project butter... dammit google give me a 10 inch nexus!

OP Update
As the First post says being this is a nexus device it already has a great start to development :laugh:
Root, recovery, roms, even a kernel source with the config :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1677

Im getting one as well

I'm getting one
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Can't wait to make some bfs kernels for it

I preordered on the play store but saw this thread here on xda and canceled it, so now im getting the 16gb for almost the same price I was gonna pay for the 8gb
check it out

[Q] CM10 for the Nexus 7?

Is this something that may happen quickly for the N7 as it is stock android, or will the devs need to spend a fair amount of effort prepping it for the N7?

jaysus145 said:
Is this something that may happen quickly for the N7 as it is stock android, or will the devs need to spend a fair amount of effort prepping it for the N7?
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I could see this happening soon the cm team is already working on cm10.... With the Dev support this tab is going to get its going to be crazyy
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Yeah man - they have a bunch of screen shots on their G+ feed right now. Tablet and phone UI.

CM10 should already compile for the N7 as because it is a Nexus device the vendor (the files used to configure the build) are released in AOSP. See https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/grouper

ben1066 said:
CM10 should already compile for the N7 as because it is a Nexus device the vendor (the files used to configure the build) are released in AOSP. See https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/grouper
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I thought that may be the case, but that level of detail is not in my wheelhouse, so thanks for the info!
I wonder how long it will take an enterprising dev to start the "***OFFICIAL*** CM10 For the Nexus 7" thread in the dev forum

I have no doubt I could compile CM10 as it is for the Nexus 7, I don't see any point yet though, there are next to no changes.

Ahh... cool. I have not even messed around with cm9 yet because a full version of it is not supported for my device. I was a big fan of CM7.2 when I was running the RC though.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question - it's cool when the devs help folks like me out with the easy questions

Cyanogen 10 NIGHTLIES should begin soon.
As far as a release candidate or final, there is absolutely no way to tell but i can pretty much guarantee you looking from CM7 and CM9 that your looking at at least 2-3 months.
ICS was released last November and CM9 has not even hit release candidate yet.

neok44 said:
Cyanogen 10 NIGHTLIES should begin soon.
As far as a release candidate or final, there is absolutely no way to tell but i can pretty much guarantee you looking from CM7 and CM9 that your looking at at least 2-3 months.
ICS was released last November and CM9 has not even hit release candidate yet.
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CM9 has hit RC1 . Apparently, it's going to take less time to get things rolling from ICS -> JB as there aren't that many BIG platform changes unlike GB -> ICS.

Looking forward to CM10 or AOKP!

This is what I'm waiting in for. Does anyone know if someone has committed to being the Cm dev for the n7? And if so, I who is it?

A lot of the work of being a 'dev' for a certain device isn't really needed with a Nexus device since Google provides most of the bits that make it difficult to make a custom ROM without.
Also, quite a few devs were at IO and received a free Nexus 7, so I really don't think we're going to be short of devs wanting to get CM working on the device!

yes, but my question is if anyone has stepped up yet. Is there a device maintainer? I'm actually pretty surprised that there isn't a cm10 build floating around for this yet....

Well, it sure looks like someone has stepped up to the plate. I wonder what the next steps are?
Per CyanogenMod on G+:
CyanogenMod3:16 PM (edited) - Public
More fishies!
The N7 got a +ClockworkMod recovery yesterday, now time to focus on the good stuff. Good job nemith!
Brandon Bennett originally shared this post:
Nexus 7 Tablet with the "right" software on it now Go Grouper!
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Neat!

D'OH!
He broke his tablet!
Brandon BennettYesterday 11:05 PM - Public
So funny story. Right after I got done adding some files to support CM10. I took my Nexus 7 over to my nephews birthday party. I set it down for a second on a table. My sisters dog than ran into it and the N7 took a fall to the patio.
What only looked like a small crack on the screen and the display works fine. The trouble came when I tried to unlock my tablet. The touchscreen no longer works.
So my plee to anyone out there. I am looking for a new N7. I would buy it from Google but they are 3-4 weeks out on shipping the next round. If anyone bought two, or knows of any other stores that may have one in stock let me know. I don't want to be out of the game that long!
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That sucks

That does suck.
That's nemith and he maintained the Nook Color for awhile. Still works with our current maintainer fattire, and those guys are the best.
For real, for real.
I would love to see either of those gentlemen be active in this forum. I still spend more time on the Nook forum than here, and I haven't even turned that device on since the Nexus 7 arrived.
Which makes me feel totally guilty. Something is very wrong with me.

CM10.1 Android 4.2.1 - Jellytime early build available - Beta3

Android 4.2​On Iconia a500​by Randomblame​
This is an early build there are issues which will be sorted in time.
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Problems:
wifi is a bit wonky still connect in settings then just leave it will continue to loop on connecting if settings is open for some reason
usb flash drives not yet mounting correctly
working:
bluetooth pairs with devices now - untested otherwise
usb mass storage working
wifi working - see above
audio working
sd cards working
multi user working
cameras working
etc
Beta3:
http://jellytime-iconia.googlecode.com/files/cm-10.1-20121207-UNOFFICIAL-a500.zip
Use This Version of Google Apps
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121130-signed.zip

You're the fastest....as always! good job, looking forward to guinea pig this

I know this is a dumb question for a forum like this one but what benifits will we see from 4.2 that we don't have in 4.1.
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chewynacho said:
I know this is a dumb question for a forum like this one but what benifits will we see from 4.2 that we don't have in 4.1.
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http://www.android.com/whatsnew/

lowsum said:
You're the fastest....as always! good job, looking forward to guinea pig this
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Same for me; my A501 is all yours for testing if you want

OK I"m pushing a build
it may wipe out all your data
it may nuke your device
but
it boots
navbar missing
wifi broken
audiobroken
bluetooth broken
in short some adjustments required
if this breaks your tablet or you lose precious family photos don't blame me it's broken just for fun http://code.google.com/p/jellytime-iconia/downloads/detail?name=theanswer.zip&can=2&q=

randomblame said:
OK I"m pushing a build
it may wipe out all your data
it may nuke your device
but
it boots
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Remeber kids, in the event this ROM causes nuclear fallout, back up your data so future generations may carry on with the information stored on your tablet.
(Is it as bad as it sounds though?)

armada786 said:
Remeber kids, in the event this ROM causes nuclear fallout, back up your data so future generations may carry on with the information stored on your tablet.
(Is it as bad as it sounds though?)
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It's almost unusable but in a good way. I'm fixing it up now

Waiting for version with navbar

got wifi - well it scans and sees aps at least

And why it does not have tablet look but phone one?
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macia10 said:
And why it does not have tablet look but phone one?
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This is the way it is in 4.2 onward. Google is unifying the look so it functions the same no matter what screen size (like everyone's favorite fruity rounded rectangles). It's Matias Duarte's vision for the UI. Personally, I have no real issues with it, and I'm sure CM or AOKP will bring back the old functionality.

I read somewhere that android 4.2 changes something in the render script. I know that this changes somehow the performance of 3d, does someone knows if this can relate to our egl leak? If yes, how does it affect performance and the random reboots we have been having?
Thank you for the efford random blame, as always I love your work, and I would donate if my stupid wall art debit card would play well with PayPal. As soon as I get another debit card you and the amazing quarx are going to have a beer from me.

Sweet sweet progress.
Got the navbar
Got storage subsystem working mostly
now for that pesky wifi
*wifi working haha sweet
so audio bluetooth and sdcard/camera

Linked my last build because I'm probably going to bed soon gotta wake up at 5am again :crying:

Awesome work as always phablet interface on 10 inch Tab sweet. Loving the phablet interface on my shiney new nexus 7. Now if I can just pry my fingers of my nexus I will give this at try
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Is it will support 3g usb modem ?!

3g is my last priority
working on the audio HAL and bluetooth issue at the moment

Could you also have a look at internal storage support? It moved all of my internal sd content into 0 folder.

macia10 said:
Could you also have a look at internal storage support? It moved all of my internal sd content into 0 folder.
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This isn't a bug. It is how 4.2 handles multiplte users on a single device.

[Q] LG Nexus 4 experience on Samsung Galaxy S4

Dear all,
a big fan of XDA, and feel a bit weird asking this question in here, as I feel sure thousands of others must have asked it - but I can't find a direct answer anywhere. So here goes;
I love my LG Nexus 4, especially the pure Android feel. But it has problems, though, with switching off or stalling suddenly (often during heat/cold, I've noticed), after which I have to reboot - that's described elsewhere, I believe, and not my real question.
I have now put my hands on a Galaxy S4 (I9500UBUAMDK) and made my way through my first root and install of a custom ROM (Wanam Lite). It took a while, but now works.
The feel, though, is not pure Android, as I'm used to it from the LG Nexus 4. I assume that's because it hasn't been possible to fully recreate that ROM, either because it's not possible on Samsung or because the new announced Galaxy Nexus is not yet out and broken. Is that correct, or have I just not been able to find the right custom ROM ?
quote Techhive.com article
Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 is so new that there aren't a lot great options for the pure Google experience yet. Even the popular CyanogenMod, which is closer to stock than Samsung's TouchWiz software, is still a work in progress. The situation may change once the stock Android Galaxy S4 starts shipping.
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If I am right - is it then expected that the Galaxy Nexus will be broken/rooted, and any idea how long that will take ?
Once that happens, and given that the Galaxy Nexus will only ship to the US, is it expected that my I9500 will be able to use those ROMs ?
Lots of questions, but assume for the pros, they should be fairly straight-forward. I may in the end just have to stick with my beloved Nexus 4, but if I could get the snappier Galaxy processor, I wouldn't mind it.
Apologies if I have overlooked any obvious threads with answers to the above.
Regards - Simon

If you want better CPU why dont you wait until Nexus 5 or any phone with snapdragon 800 inside?
Ex. Galaxy S4 advance, Xperia Z-ultra...
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sundboell said:
Dear all,
a big fan of XDA, and feel a bit weird asking this question in here, as I feel sure thousands of others must have asked it - but I can't find a direct answer anywhere. So here goes;
I love my LG Nexus 4, especially the pure Android feel. But it has problems, though, with switching off or stalling suddenly (often during heat/cold, I've noticed), after which I have to reboot - that's described elsewhere, I believe, and not my real question.
I have now put my hands on a Galaxy S4 (I9500UBUAMDK) and made my way through my first root and install of a custom ROM (Wanam Lite). It took a while, but now works.
The feel, though, is not pure Android, as I'm used to it from the LG Nexus 4. I assume that's because it hasn't been possible to fully recreate that ROM, either because it's not possible on Samsung or because the new announced Galaxy Nexus is not yet out and broken. Is that correct, or have I just not been able to find the right custom ROM ?
quote Techhive.com article
Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 is so new that there aren't a lot great options for the pure Google experience yet. Even the popular CyanogenMod, which is closer to stock than Samsung's TouchWiz software, is still a work in progress. The situation may change once the stock Android Galaxy S4 starts shipping.
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If I am right - is it then expected that the Galaxy Nexus will be broken/rooted, and any idea how long that will take ?
Once that happens, and given that the Galaxy Nexus will only ship to the US, is it expected that my I9500 will be able to use those ROMs ?
Lots of questions, but assume for the pros, they should be fairly straight-forward. I may in the end just have to stick with my beloved Nexus 4, but if I could get the snappier Galaxy processor, I wouldn't mind it.
Apologies if I have overlooked any obvious threads with answers to the above.
Regards - Simon
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Once the Galaxy S4 GE edition comes out it will help the snapdragon version fo the device alot. There will still be issues that cant be resolved with the Exynos devices but that always been and always will be the case due to samsung lieing to the developers about releasing the proper documentation for that chip. But even then you will lose all the extra sensors in the S4,

Hi overdose1986, zelendel,
thank you for that - I guess that answers my questions in the sense that it is NOT possible to port the full Nexus experience to GS4 right now, and likely won't be for a while, even when the GS4 Nexus comes out, right ?
I likely will wait for the Nexus 5, but that's only slated until late this year or even next year, isn't it ?
Regards - Simon

sundboell said:
Hi overdose1986, zelendel,
thank you for that - I guess that answers my questions in the sense that it is NOT possible to port the full Nexus experience to GS4 right now, and likely won't be for a while, even when the GS4 Nexus comes out, right ?
I likely will wait for the Nexus 5, but that's only slated until late this year or even next year, isn't it ?
Regards - Simon
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That's about right, if Samsung's past track record is anything to go by. As always, nothing is definitive. IMO, if you were able to get an I9505 over an I9500, it would have helped your cause a lot more. As for the next Nexus, if Google follows their yearly update pattern, it should be out by the year end.

It's not a Nexus.. It's simply a Google Experience device. A Nexus will not have hardware buttons or removable storage. Oh and the Galaxy Nexus was Google's reference device from end of 2011.
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I don't really see why this is on the nexus 4 forum but anyway the s4 like every non nexus phone will have to wait a while to get a completely smooth pure stock experience
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New tablet after a Nexus 7? Here is a worthy successor!

Lenovo Tab 4 Plus
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_4_8_plus-8603.php
It's slightly bigger than the Nexus 7, but not so much by comparison, as you can see here from a side by side:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vYDGB1BfzbWjhO9t2
Better specs, clean Android, beautiful screen and very, very well made hardware, with the additional Plus of having an SD-card slot. By now I am on my 4th Nexus 7, which I mainly use use for eBook reading and some casual gaming, but the problems with the USB slot and the easily defective memory are a nuisance and I have been on the market for an alternative for more than 3 years. The Tab 4 for me is that alternative.
I've had it for a couple of days now and while it is not wildly popular (yet), there is already TWRP available AND root through Magisk.
Finally a decent tablet with USB-C, nice hardware, very good screen time (basically sames as the Nexus 7) and an up to date Android version without significant bloatware (Except for Microsoft Office, which you can uninstall easily, since it's not a system app).
I hope to see a thriving community around this tablet; it's worth it and will please those who have been happy with their Nexus 7, but are looking for a more modern piece of hardware as a successor.

Lucky me I am still on the first one from day one ?
Just have to charge wireless since 6 month. Bud there is no factory Image coming so as long as custums are coming I am good to go. But the Lenovo looks promising

nvidia shield tablet....best

So this runs stock Android? If so, may be my next tablet.
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max_n2f said:
nvidia shield tablet....best
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its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?

gfunkzero said:
its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?
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I think 2gb is enough for games

AGREED!!!
When i first saw this, i thought, this is the only upgrade to my 4 year old nexus 7....but sadly lenovo did not launch the 4/64 version in India....i don't know what to buy now..iPad looks like the only choice

I'd suggest the Huawei T2 7.0 Pro. I have both it and the Nexus 7. The Huawei is lighter, smaller, better battery, slightly better CPU/GPU, Micro SD slot, fingerprint sensor.
Oh and it can take a micro sim and be used as a cell phone.
The only negatives:
Only works on 2.4ghz wifi
Android 5.01 only currently
No NFC
No wireless charging
Otherwise it is a worthy successor. There are tons of 8" tablets available but for sheer portability (and why the nexus 7 was so popular in the first place), the T2 is a viable option.
Huawei also had the Media Pad X2 7.0 which has far superior hardware but I have been unable to find one to purchase anywhere.
I also used the Nexus 7 primarily as an E-Reader (I have had it with junk E-Ink devices, kobo and kindle are garbage)
but my Nexus 7 has a stuck reboot loop issue if it powers down.
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gfunkzero said:
its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?
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Not only that, it's also got Micro-USB, not USB-C. Deal breaker.
Same goes for the Huawei, Micro USB.
The Lenovo is also availble in an LTE version. I don't need that, got a nice phone with an international contract as hotspot, so no more additional contracts for me, WiFi does the job for me.

The Lenovo does look like a solid device. For me the size though is a no go. Plus I have not seen it for sale anywhere in Canada. No clue what the supposed release date is.

What about superfish?

What tablets run stock Android or very close to? I want a tablet that will get new major Android releases.
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Pretty much only the Nexus 7 is stock.
That doesn't seem to matter though. Google discontinued updates on the Nexus 7 after Android 6.0.1.

Agree, and I see no sign of them releasing a new tablet anytime soon.
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Ya, I gave up waiting. Hence the Huawei that I have been using.

I just pulled mine out of the closet to check for updates and can't believe it still has a better screen then these Xiaomi phones I keep buying.

HatchetEgg said:
What about superfish?
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I have no idea what you are talking about.

DF5JT said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/02/19/superfish-need-to-know/#4dc6a76b3877

As bad as it's going to sound. I'm glad Apple is finally in the wireless charging game. Ya know they're likely to drop an iPad with it soon, and this may inspire the creation of other wireless charging tablets. It's really the only thing holding me back from replacing the Nexus 7 2013.

Mi max 2 ... Snapdragon...big battery..usb-c....not expensive
Minecraft story mode 2 is playable