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Need Some Feedback From Nexus S Community

I currently use a Mytouch 3g so an update is long overdue. I am looking to buy a phone by the end of this month that I will be using with T-Mobile in US and also in UK while I'm studying there next year. The phones that I am currently looking at are:
1. Nexus S
2. HTC Sensation
3. Mytouch 4G
Probably in that order... I have read quite a bit of reviews but just wanted to find out what people feel about this phone who use it day to day.
Also, how annoying is the lack of a notification LED?
Thanks.

nexus S definitely. For the lack of notification LED, I just rooted mine with netarchy kernal that supports BLN (black light notifications). Or if you don't want to root your phone can you use noLED on the android market. I personally prefer BLN as it saves more power by using only the bottom menu buttons for notifications.

The HTC Sensation is a really nice phone, it is newer too, but it has a locked bootloader.
The lack of a notification light is a non-issue as long as you have a custom kernel, which can use the back light on the buttons for a notification light.

Mo0oSaH said:
I currently use a Mytouch 3g so an update is long overdue. I am looking to buy a phone by the end of this month that I will be using with T-Mobile in US and also in UK while I'm studying there next year. The phones that I am currently looking at are:
1. Nexus S
2. HTC Sensation
3. Mytouch 4G
Probably in that order... I have read quite a bit of reviews but just wanted to find out what people feel about this phone who use it day to day.
Also, how annoying is the lack of a notification LED?
Thanks.
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Well, these are the nexus S forums so obviously you will hear from a lot of satisfied owners that this phone is the best.
The nexus line will always be getting the latest updates as soon as they are released, so will you always have the latest software. I also, personally, consider it the best single core android phone on the market. Using some tweaks I am able to play "nvidia tegra" optimized games at 50-60 fps and the phone feels generally very responsive. If you root it, a notification LED won't be missed since we have this app called BackLightNofication control (BLN) which lights the buttons when you receive a msg or mail. It works just like a notification led.
On the other hand, the HTC Sensation has better hardware and is currently HTC's flagship phone. Despite the fact that the nexus S will always have up to date software, rooted users will probably have it on the Sensation as well, maybe a few weeks later. So I would call the sensation a bit more future proof.
BUT! if you're looking for a monster device you should consider the samsung galaxy S II. It is currently the best smartphone on the market in terms of hardware and is definitely more future proof then the sensation. Not only that, but its cheaper then it and will most likely have a bigger developer community (3 million devices were already purchased all over the world).

lvnatic, I actually considered SGSII but the only issue is that it will not have 3g on T-Mobile USA so I would only be able to use while I'm in Europe. Also, unless I am mistaken, I don't think they have found an exploit to root the sensation. There are custom sensation roms but they are for a few developer phones that have S-Off. Thanks for your feedback. I might still get the SGSII because I will primarily be in the UK (studying) over the next two years.

There might be a dual core nexus, get that.
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dino993 said:
There might be a dual core nexus, get that.
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He says he needs a phone by the end of the month, not the end of the year.

Mo0oSaH said:
lvnatic, I actually considered SGSII but the only issue is that it will not have 3g on T-Mobile USA so I would only be able to use while I'm in Europe. Also, unless I am mistaken, I don't think they have found an exploit to root the sensation. There are custom sensation roms but they are for a few developer phones that have S-Off. Thanks for your feedback. I might still get the SGSII because I will primarily be in the UK (studying) over the next two years.
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When the TMo one comes out, there is a chance. But then again you need one by the end of the month.
tbh.
Nexus S is a amazing phone. Sure it's not on top of the hardware specs but it is still a relatively fast phone. The dual core phones coming out right now are still running Froyo (or Gingerbread) which are not optimized to be used for dual cores.
Whats the point in having newer generation hardware that the software doesn't utilize the two cores? Cores are just marketing. It is a full stock Android experience. Nothing could get better.
Sensation 4G is a really nice phone but Sense UI ruins it for me. Also locked bootloader, sure a OTA will unlock it. But when?
Updates coming directly from Google is way better than coming from the manufacturer. Think about Ice Cream Nexus users get it the week its announced.

theres always the quad core jesus phone option...
but really, even though the sensation has new hardware, i think the nexus s is still better(as long as its the super amoled version. theres something about the super lcd versions that leave a sour taste in my mouth. and it snot just the screen).
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I'm not bothered at all by the lack if an LED. I honestly don't see the issue.
The only real problem I have with my Nexus S is the lack of an SD card slot. It hasn't hindered my experience in anyway, just more of an annoyance than anything.
If you want stock android and ease of flashing roms get the Nexus. If you want Sense go with the Sensation. Its a very solid phone.
Might want to wait for the next Nexus if you have patience.

The NS is awesome with its curved screen. Very fast, very slick, very moddable

HTC announces ICS for desire HD, desire S and incredible S.

This only leaves samsung and motorola as not paying attention to their weaker phones.
HTC, LG and sony ericsson all giving most of their phones ICS.
And yet samsung wont give it to galaxy S? Well you say it's older than desire HD? Well the galaxy S plus and galaxy W are not and are actually more powerful than these HTC phones.
It's always arrogance that leads to the doom of the leader. Samsung really has to get their act straight if they want to remain android leader, there is simply no justification now for not giving ICS to their single core devices.

So, who cares?
Look around, there is plenty of ICS ROMs to install for SGS. And most of them are stable enough for daily use.
When you tasted some ROM, that is not Samsung-based, you're never going back. At least I'm not.
So, I really don't give a slightest f**k if ICS won't be official for SGS.
This is probably still the largest dev community for any of the android based phones, and although the phone is almost two years old, there is still a lot of development going on. I'm happy with my SGS, I'm quite happy with Samsung as the company itself too.

opica said:
So, who cares?
Look around, there is plenty of ICS ROMs to install for SGS. And most of them are stable enough for daily use.
When you tasted some ROM, that is not Samsung-based, you're never going back. At least I'm not.
So, I really don't give a slightest f**k if ICS won't be official for SGS.
This is probably still the largest dev community for any of the android based phones, and although the phone is almost two years old, there is still a lot of development going on. I'm happy with my SGS, I'm quite happy with Samsung as the company itself too.
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Lets not kid ourselves please. Once you get official OS you get even better ROMs.
Sure galaxy S is 2 years old but S plus isnt and doesnt even have that good ROMs so what about the S+ users?
Samsung is the most profitable android manufacturer, there is simply no excuse for this period.

Gambler_3 said:
Once you get official OS you get even better ROMs.
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Wh00t?
As I've written: once I've tasted aosp-based ROMs, I never went back to Samsungs' one. And I'm pretty sure a large number of users here would agree with me.
p.s.
maybe RIL sw is somehow better from the start in an official ROM if a new version of OS was released, but it gets polished anyways
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you should really have posted here

I don't care about Plus or W, at the time I bought my S the HTC choice was the Desire. It's not getting ICS either and even if it did I would still prefer SGS hardware and dev community.

haloimplant said:
I don't care about Plus or W, at the time I bought my S the HTC choice was the Desire. It's not getting ICS either and even if it did I would still prefer SGS hardware and dev community.
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The Desire never even got a working Gingerbread build...

CM9 is awesome,
no crappy Samsung's ROM anymore.

Russians drilled down to the arctic lake!!!!!!!!
And this is common in same way as the @OP's post...

But I care, i want to have a stock rom ICS than cook rom,
my next phone is not samsung.

See for you guys its okay, for people like me with the galaxy s 4g, we are screwed. We don't have enough developers to port ics. I still hope that we will get cm7 or miui but ics, lets not gonna kid ourselves on getting that for his phone.
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The choice when I bought the phone was HTC Desire or SGS. Boy am I glad I went for the SGS! Stop getting your knickers in a twist, there are plenty of ICS options. I've been running CM9 since the beginning of January with virtually no problems.
My next phone probably will be a Samsung, or whichever has the biggest development scene.

trislr said:
But I care, i want to have a stock rom ICS than cook rom,
my next phone is not samsung.
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I agree with you, some people here don't understand greatness of stock ROMs

This isn't even a small argument talking about GS. But indeed the Plus version should receive ICS. Can't say that LG is better then Samsung at updating their phones, I mean sure the 2x gets it, but it's only one year old. The DHD is the only older phone getting ICS here. Nice move from HTC. I just can't say Samsung is worse than HTC at updating their phones.
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Samsung galaxy s said:
This isn't even a small argument talking about GS. But indeed the Plus version should receive ICS. Can't say that LG is better then Samsung at updating their phones, I mean sure the 2x gets it, but it's only one year old. The DHD is the only older phone getting ICS here. Nice move from HTC. I just can't say Samsung is worse than HTC at updating their phones.
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Samsung is now officially worse than HTC at updating unless they update the galaxy S plus and galaxy W.
Even the $200 xperia mini is getting ICS which is from every aspect inferior to the samsung phones not getting ICS.
LG is also bringing ICS to optimus black which is the weakest phone officially supported for ICS. Ofcourse LG's ROMs actually suck but thats another story.

You guys are really too greedy. I have a SGS+ and I would love to have some custom development (CM, ICS).
We have just now a CM 7 port in work and it will take a long time to finish it, before even thinking of CM9, ICS (no graphic driver, how the hell should the ports work flawlessly)?
Our phone isn't even 1 year old, so it's just twice frustrating for us: no custom development, no official updates.
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Samsung BT S-Pen

Samsung has unveiled a new variant of the S-Pen, which comes bundled with all Note devices, called the BT S-Pen (BT standing for Bluetooth). It is, as far as I am aware, a regular S-Pen (albeit much larger for greater comfort) that connects to your Note device via Bluetooth and allows you to utilise it as a wireless-headset of sorts. Although bundled with pre-release test units of the Note 10.1 for journalists at their press conference, it simply utilises the regular technology of our Note 5.3 devices' S-Pens with Bluetooth to enable it to make and receive calls (meaning that it should work on the Note GT-N7000). Since one of the major complaints of the Note is the embarrassment of holding it up to your ear to make a phone call, I think this S-Pen is a fantastic accessory for the Note series. It can be charged via a Micro-USB port connected to the Note devices and apparently has 130 hours of standby time or 3 hours of talk time (not the best, but if you are like me and don't make too many calls that isn't a problem). Having been wanting a larger S-Pen to use around the house (the small one is fine out and about, but at home something larger would undeniably be more comfortable), this seems perfect. I shall be shelling out the cash for one as soon as it is available here in the UK, unless it is ridiculously priced. Who else likes the look of this?
Read the article here!

Link?

Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.

Brad387 said:
Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.
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I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.

andreww88 said:
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I added one to an article. It also includes a video of it being demoed on the AT&T 4G version of the Galaxy Note.

andreww88 said:
I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.
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Hopefully so. Since the S2 is apparently getting Jelly Bean, there is almost a definitive chance the Note will get Jelly Bean also! Let's just hope that Samsung finally fix the brick bug, which is a great cripple towards ROM development, eh?

Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.

andreww88 said:
Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.
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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.

Brad387 said:
It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.
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Maybe for some people....but I won't be buying it.

BT S-Shoe from Samsung
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pretty cool.. hope it comes as a part of note 2...

Weird. I think I would rather be seen talking into a slightly large phone than a pen.

I don't know how practical the Bluetooth pen will be. If your talking to someone with the pen, it's going to be very hard to use it to take notes or whatever.
And one handed operation on the note 5" our 10.1" wrote holding the pen to your ear is going to be impossible to do.
I guess it's only practical if you don't want to pull out the note from your pocket.
I still think head sets or earpiece are the way to go for hands free talking
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sounds cool, but does anyone actually use the s=pen that comes with the phone ? when i was using my note as my full time phone ( dont really use it anymore ) i think i used the pen for the first 2 days and haven't pulled it out in at least 6 months

N4 is boring

I bought a Nexus 4 just to play with a GOOGLE phone.. I find it quite boring. I prefer the Touchwiz of the S3 and Note 2 which I have.
Is there a mod or rom that uses ported touchwiz for the N4?
cheers

LOL.I have seen people switching to aosp from touchwiz,but never heard of anyone switching from aosp to touchwiz.
But i would like the multiwindow feature on n4.

BORING?!?!?!?!?!
You sound like a spoiled little brat saying this phone is boring, you know.
You wanna see boring???? Look at what happens after a cdma nexus phone turns two: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1171
Next time you want to complain about the most active android in development, just step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath!
Me?? This is my first ever gsm nexus while it's still the flagship. I bought my NS4G two months before the Gnex launched, so that's the only time I've had with the newest nexus until now. It looks to me like someone needs to step back and appreciate what they have, since most people will never experience development anywhere near the scale we currently are!!

I understand where you are coming from, all aosp can be boring, but nexus devices are like an infinite road of excitement if you have time, learn to develop android! Make a kernel, make it beast and then give back to the communities. You have a note 2 and an s3??? THEN YOU PORT IT!!! You have two devices to base the functionality on.... I love my nexus s 4g but it was boring, I got an s3 and it has cm10 on it. Go figure.
In front of a live studio audience

Seriously, its a failed in your part. You bought a pure android Nexus device so you don't have Touchwiz bloat. Your best bet now is sell the N4 and buy the Note II. I don't think there is any ROM or addon that would make touchwiz for the N4.

did u research the phone before purchasing? The S3 is more consumer-friendly, u should've known switching from touchwiz to bare bones vanilla android could feel like a "downgrade".

n1ggyn1ce said:
did u research the phone before purchasing? The S3 is more consumer-friendly, u should've known switching from touchwiz to bare bones vanilla android could feel like a "downgrade".
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getting rid of unnecessary garbage is NOT a downgrade!!

nm8 said:
I bought a Nexus 4 just to play with a GOOGLE phone.. I find it quite boring. I prefer the Touchwiz of the S3 and Note 2 which I have.
Is there a mod or rom that uses ported touchwiz for the N4?
cheers
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GTFO.

Sorry don't have an answer to your question, but it seems a shame to miss out on the potential of the nexus 4 to allow you to tweak until your satisfied (even if doing that means porting touchwiz )

hp420 said:
getting rid of unnecessary garbage is NOT a downgrade!!
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I love my Nexus, I'm just saying those coming from Galaxy devices might feel it's a downgrade. They lose the touchwiz functionality (which I personally do not care for) and camera features (better than Nexus).

n1ggyn1ce said:
I love my Nexus, I'm just saying those coming from Galaxy devices might feel it's a downgrade. They lose the touchwiz functionality (which I personally do not care for) and camera features (better than Nexus).
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maybe to those that just keep their phone on stock and dont care about speed (my N4 is very noticeably faster than a few of my friends gs3's and note II's) it may seem like a downgrade feature wise, but most bought nexus for the completely open environment that makes development super quick so they can use the roms that make their phone even faster and more customizable and adds many features that galaxy devices dont have. just look at ubuntu os, its going to be running much better on the nexus 4 than when it finally makes it to the gs3, and please tell me how two available different OS's is boring

Am i the only one who actually likes the stock nexus? .
Besides, it has everything you need. And if you're missing a feature there will be an app,a mod or a ROM for it.
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Trolololol

People leave the OP alone. That is his opinion.
OP, check these roms if you are looking into different UI..
MIUI
Blur UI
Nexperia z4
I havent try them but perhaps you might be interested.

nm8 said:
I bought a Nexus 4 just to play with a GOOGLE phone.. I find it quite boring. I prefer the Touchwiz of the S3 and Note 2 which I have.
Is there a mod or rom that uses ported touchwiz for the N4?
cheers
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My Nexus 4 says that you're boring.
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I can kind of see where the OP is coming from. Touchwiz and Sense and MotoBlur are all additions to stock android and make it all flashy, but that's the the reason for buying a nexus. Its all about stock android and then tailoring it to suit you. I remember comparing my S2 to my mates galaxy Nexus last year and mine did seem cooler with the extra toggles on the notification screen and different app drawer and widgets...but that all got wiped away once he got all the latest software updates and I was left way behind.
I don't think I'd want to switch back from my Nexus 4 to anything else...until maybe another Nexus is announced.
ps...the multiwindow thing is the dogs. Hope google pick it up.

flip to silence the phone on touchwiz was pretty neat. i miss that

I am not a developer, I am just an end user.
I just want to download pre built roms and flash them, If I like it, I keep it and make a donation. That's it.
What I like about the N4 is the screen is bright and as sharp as the GS3. And as fast as the Note 2.
I don't LACK of microSD card slot, Crappy SIM tray - whay can't they just use a slot just like old Nokia phones. Built-in battery/unremovable back cover.
Regarding build quality, well at first glance you would think it has a premium build and looks more robust that the S3, but after using the unit for a day, I feel that is is more fragile than the S3.
I actually bought three units and planned to give the two units to my close relatives but they are going back to google unfortunately.
Perhaps I used the wrong title, it should be "Nexus 4 is crappier than S3/Note 2"
Actually with the Note 2 touchwiz, I never had to use, or should I say I have never been compelled to use third party roms as it is very good. I just rooted the damn thing, installed a few mods and that's it.
To those who just own a Nexus 4 and have never tried other phones like the GS3 or Note 2, I suggest you try them out first before flaming me.

Blasphemy !!!!
I also have an S3, Note2 and an S2.

Who thinks that the Galaxy S5 is a disappointment?

I already saw the leaked images and feel that the S5 is a taller version of the S4 with ribbed back. And same cheap plastic. No go for me. I think LG or HTC will be winning?
Anyone else disappointed in what the S5 will be?

I think a lot of us are but let see what Samsung does. They are starting the announcement now. We'll have a better opinion afterwards.
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The galaxy s1, 2, and 4 all seemed to be big leaps from the prior generation to me. The s3 at the least inherited a whole new design language. I love Sammy but the s5 seems to be a huuuuuge let down. It's not really their fault, most processor, screen, and camera improvements in the last year have been modest. But a let down nonetheless
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I'm not at all impressed with the design of it. I expected something new with it. To me, this does not feel new. The whole Galaxy Gear and Fit stuff, don't care too much about either.
Now let's go with what I am impressed with. Just from seeing the UI, and hearing it's not packed full of useless S branded crap is a huge plus to me. The fingerprint scanner is pretty nice too.
I know people aren't too keen on Knox, but I'm hoping Samsung did improve on Knox for the corporate sector. The school district I manage the cell phone service for has upgrades coming in a month or two for 90% of the lines, and depending how Knox's security is, this is going to be a deciding factor in the new mobile purchases.

Maybe the version that leaked isn't the premium version. I will pass judgement once the device is officially announced.

I don't like the increases in size and weight, considering it only gets a 0.1" larger screen. The bezels look larger than the S4. Keeping the RAM at 2GB and 16-32GB storage (and, if the past is any indication, 16GB will be the only one readily available) for the 3rd straight generation, while the Note has increased to 3GB/32GB minimum, indicates that this is no longer their flagship phone. I had an S2, skipped the S3, now have an S4, and will skip the S5. Smallest increase in overall specs in the 'S' series yet. Water resistance is nice, but not that big a deal to me. USB3 is a nice upgrade, but that's the only thing that really jumps out at me. Camera is better, but I don't use a camera that much anyways, so doesn't matter to me. VERY happy they are continuing the use of SD cards & removable batteries, though. If I lost my S4 it would be a toss-up for me between the S5 & Note3.

no FM radio
Lack of FM radio is a disappointment. Still prefere phones with good old fashion radio receiver.

i expected more bang, but i guess jumping from my s2 to an s5 is indeed a huge gain!

The design is just...terrible.

I'm glad I purchased a Note 3. The GS5 looks too big to not be in the Note family.

Same RAM, lower perceived screen resolution, same design, really weird UI redesign. Not impressed. Should have been called GS4+
As for the next HTC phone, I have a feeling it will be a disappointment as well.

Baldilocks said:
Same RAM, lower perceived screen resolution, same design, really weird UI redesign. Not impressed. Should have been called GS4+
As for the next HTC phone, I have a feeling it will be a disappointment as well.
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3 phones I'm interested in, the Z2 (never owned a Sony phone, it may be time), the G3 and iPhone 6. The S5 is a good phone but it just improved the S4. It's a marriage between the S4 and S4 active in what the S4 should have been in the first place. I think if I say S4 once more I'm gonna puke....
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It look like a plan B device. Plan A failed for some reason!!
These specs are unacceptable

Everyone was hyping it to be the next best thing. Even a Samsung exec said that they understood how they failed to innovate with the S4. I even expected it to have the 2k resolution screen and camera with OIS since LG was able to do it a few months ago. Samsung sure made the people who bought the Note 3 feel good about their purchases.

qipengart said:
I already saw the leaked images and feel that the S5 is a taller version of the S4 with ribbed back. And same cheap plastic. No go for me. I think LG or HTC will be winning?
Anyone else disappointed in what the S5 will be?
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Agreed
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Hahahhahahahahaha
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"S5" Better call it S4+. Gonna wait to see the Premium version. The design itself nothing new. and the Specs are not terrible (2gb RAM) compared to GN3.

Wait so what is better?

horrid.!! Guess I'm going from 5s to 6. I had high hopes this would bring me back to Android.

Loyal samsung fan for last 3 years. Used all S series and then Note series too. Always loved Samsung but today I just want to cry. Samsung has let me down big big time. Used to make fun of iphone for identical crap but now the time is coming back on me...
The Next Big Thing is the Next Flop Thing...
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