Adding things using the miniPCIExpress. SSD? External GPU???D-rom? Moar? - Thinkpad Tablet General

Hey all,
I had to open up my TPT today to resolder/enforce some points (the dreaded broken power button problem) and was a bit surprised how much room there is to work inside the case. Put me in the hardware modding mood. So....
I know of the work people have done to add WAN cards using the mini PCI express slot that is just sitting there, but my data plan sucks to much to use it heavily. What else comes in mini PCI express that we can play around with? Any ideas? I've only used this slot on a laptop once for a cd-rom, and I know of solid state drives in this format. Or how about this :
http://www.techchee.com/2010/05/26/msis-first-external-graphic-card-for-laptops/
Nice miniPCIe -> whatever adapters for more possibilities:
http://www.hwtools.net/
If anything it could be an easy usb port.
edited: second link addition

There's just something about cracking a case and seeing all that virgin territory that makes me want to start adding in and swapping out, too. I really like the idea of an SSD. Or maybe later I will slug in a wwan card and donate more money towards my cell provider's latest hot, expensive vehicle.

miniPCIe SSDs require a special type of miniPCIe slot. You have to have a SATA compatible version for SATA SSDs, PATA for PATA SSDs. I remember from when I was getting a mPCIe SSD for my dell mini 9.
I doubt android has the drivers for it anyways. The WWAN is probably the only option.

gallahad2000 said:
miniPCIe SSDs require a special type of miniPCIe slot. You have to have a SATA compatible version for SATA SSDs, PATA for PATA SSDs. I remember from when I was getting a mPCIe SSD for my dell mini 9.
I doubt android has the drivers for it anyways. The WWAN is probably the only option.
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I've read that, and I'm not to sure on the rarity of those compatible ports. There weren't any good markings on the board itself. Here's a crop of an image I took for reference:
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Unfortunately I already closed it back up, so sometime later I'll separate the board from the case to inspect the back, or fish around the stock kernel to see if it just so happens to support it already (though I'd be amazed if so). For now I'm trying to scavenge anything that I can plug into this port to start testing with. My touchpad didnt have anything to offer, but I think I have a netbook laying around This USB adapter looks really interesting:
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM3U.html
But last time I ordered from a site like this, the USB drive didnt fit into any of my ports...

After some more reading, it looks like we'll be fine with the port. Getting the drivers is another issue, but there are SSDs for both mSata and mPCIe. There was even work on the joojoo converting a SSD to support the other protocol. Hopefully my scavenging doesn't end up needing this though.
Edit:
I ended up buying this mPCIe to USB/SATA adapter from amazon. Cheap option so I can start messing with available hardware to see what we can get away with. There were cheaper boards available over seas for ~$3, but I'd prefer to pay the extra money to get it delivered in 3-5 days rather than 14-armageddon days. I ordered a 15 cent usb stick from hong kong that never arrived (though a 10 cent one did!).
Also, there is no 5V pin on the pci specifications. So I'm not sure if my previously linked usb adapter had a circuit off of the 3V or 12V or just gave you either of them raw. If someone ends up buying it I'd check it with a multimeter first. I guess you can tell I'm really wary of these companies.
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Also, there is no 5V pin on the pci specifications. So I'm not sure if my previously linked usb adapter had a circuit off of the 3V or 12V or just gave you either of them raw. If someone ends up buying it I'd check it with a multimeter first. I guess you can tell I'm really wary of these companies.
Updates in a week's shipping!
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Looking at the pictures for the hwtools adapter, it looks like there is a voltage regulator (circled below) on it that probably brings the 12 volts down to 5. The Amazon adapter probably has something similar but I can't see much in the Amazon pictures.

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USB Test Jigs (used for forcing Samsung Galaxy S phones into downloading mode)

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how long until you can ship. i desperately need one. and def dont want to solder lol. let me know asap.
The resistors came in, I'm still waiting on the USB boards to come in. Once they do, I'll solder them (just need to find an iron) and ship them out.
So far I got garyHal, jeremyritzmann, and jotafk on list. One left.
As for the three that ordered, please PM me your preferred methods of shipping so I can factor in the price to bill you over paypal.
If there's any still available, I need one desperately too I'm in australia, but there shouldnt be any custom troubles on either end i think. Thanks
I'll buy one when you're ready. (in the UK btw)
I'm desperatly looking to buy one, if you got any available
Have to be shipped to Norway.
I'm getting a Samsung Epic soon and would like one of these for a just in case thing ,usps priority mail zip is 32539. Pm price and paypal address.
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let me know when i need to paypal you the money
Non compliant under Market Place rules.
Basically, you are fabricating the cables rather than selling your own, used accessories. You manufacture and sell... thus, you are carrying on a business on XDA grounds, which is also not acceptable under General XDA rules.
Thread closed.
For all those wanting to know about the JTAG test jig:
http://factoidz.com/how-to-unbrick-your-samsung-vibrant-galaxy-s/ said:
In the event of a total software brick, meaning that your phone is rendered completely unusable, there is usually only one way to restore it to usable condition: through a JTAG interface. JTAG interfaces are, however, very complicated to create, require very specific knowledge that the average user lacks, and often times can damage your device. Thankfully, Samsung has created an alternate hardware level interface that will force the device into recovery or download mode, allowing the user to flash a new image to his phone. This guide will walk you through the steps of un-bricking your Samsung Vibrant, as well as all other Samsung Galaxy S variants. Materials:
2 micro USB cables of any length.
I recommend these: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=4867&seq=1&format=2 .
You can get them from a local store if you want, but never pay more than two dollars for a micro USB cable, especially in this case seeing as you are going to rip one apart soon.
A soldering iron.
Not for soldering your phone though, it is for soldering two of the wires in a micro USB cable together.
You can get one of these at a local Radio Shack or home improvement store.
Rosin core solder
Any solder works but rosin core is the easiest to find and its really easy to melt
You can get this at a local Radio Shack or home improvement store.
A 301K ohm resistor
Notice the K. A 301K ohm resistor is different from a 301 ohm resistor!
You can get one of these at a local Radio Shack or from Amazon.com
If you cant find a 301k resistor at Radio Shack, and don’t feel like ordering it, you can just buy 3 100k resistors, and one 1k resistor and solder them together to create a 301K resistor.
Some people will tell you that a 300k resistor will also force a Galaxy S into download mode, but it doesn’t work for everyone, so stick with a 301K.
Wire strippers
Utility knife
Creating the Test Jig:
You will force your Vibrant / Galaxy S variant into download mode by emulating the usb test jig used by Samsung engineers.
Before doing anything. Turn your phone off and let it charge.
If necessary solder the 3 100k resistors and 1k resistor together to make your 301k resistor.
The order you place them in does not matter.
If you bought the 301k resistor disregard this step
Cut one of your Micro USB cables in half, and cut away a section of the sheathing using a utility knife, exposing the five wires within.
Using the wire strippers, remove the insulation of the ends of wires 4 and 5, exposing the copper.
Refer to this image if you do not know which wires 4 and 5 are:
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Solder the 301k resistor across wires 4 and 5, in other words connect them with the resistor.
DO NOT DO THIS WITH THE CHORD PLUGGED INTO YOUR PHONE! THE HEAT CAN DAMAGE IT!
Once the solder is cooled and dry, unplug your Samsung Galaxy S from the charger, and DO NOT TURN IT ON!
Plug the micro USB end of the test jig you just made into the usb port of your Samsung Galaxy S.
Your phone will turn on by itself and boot into recovery mode
Do not turn it on before plugging the jig in or it will not work.
Once it it booted into download mode, flash a rom via ODIN.
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Extension Cable for Webtop?

Hey Guys,
I'm kinda afraid that I might break my Webtop's dock or my Atrix while docking/undocking it, plus I would like to keep my phone on the table & not on the dock... So I was wondering if there were Micro-HDMI extension cables, like a:
Micro-HDMI Female to Micro-HDMI Male Cable
&
Micro-USB Female to Micro-USB Male Cable
Thanks...
I also, I need these cables
somebody know where I can buy or make these cables ,,please
dealextreme
your best bet will be deal extreme. I got a micro hdmi female to hdmi female coupler from there. Couldn't find it anywhere else actually.
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dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-hdmi-mini-female-adapter-black-41323[/url]
plus
dealextreme.com/p/gold-plated-hdmi-female-to-female-adapter-converter-29363[/url]
plus
dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-micro-hdmi-male-cable-145cm-length-66080[/url]
will get you the HDMI conversion
I cannot find a combo for the usb
I find it really funny that a thread opened up the same day I had this idea, though there haven't been any new posts since I last checked. I would really like to see something like this, it would be much easier than taking out my atrix out of my otterbox case each time I want to use the webtop.
A while ago I read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
and the part mentioned:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-micro-hdmi-female-adapter-66079
if coupled with a hdmi female to female piece and the hdmi cable that came with the phone would cover the hdmi part of the proposed extender cable.
I'm having some trouble with finding a good cable with a micro usb female end though
I was thinking... If we took this, ripped it appart and soldered the micro female part to the micro male part on this. Wouldn't it work? Same concept for the micro usb. Plus I looked up mods for the Webdock, and the dock on the back can be taken apart to reveal two separate connectors without ruining anything important...
This guy modded his Webdock to work with the Photon. So I was thinking of just taking it apart like he did in the pictures, and using it like that. Or kinda mod the dock to make it wider so I can use my Atrix with my tpu case...
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I actually followed that and started to take apart my webtop. It's really easy to do so, but the cables are pretty well stuck in their slot, even after taking off the metal bracket thing. Besides, I'm to afraid to heavily modify the device, it's a little too fragile for my tastes. I was thinking of extending the cables out to allow me to attach the atrix in the otterbox, but it would be too risky for me, and it would probably be very flimsy. I'm going to continue to look for cables/adapters to suit my need
micro hdmi male to micro hdmi female
hey guys this is my first post but i found this item and it works on the atrix lapdock pretty cool piece i would include a link bbut i am new but i found this on all4cellulars website
That's what I've been looking for but I wish it was longer. I would use this so I can use my phone as a webcam on my lapdock. Now for a usb version and this would be complete.
http://www.all4cellular.com/micro-hdmi-male-to-female-adapter-type-d.html
Ok, just ordered these from ebay. Hopefully the HDMI is long enough so I can use my phone as a webcam on my Lapdock. If not, will buy another one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
I have experienced that this works on dock very well .
Extension cables for motorola found
Just found these extension cables for atrix2 sure they will work for other motorola phones containing a micro hdmi and micro usb. Someone got smart and paired they items on amazon, I sure for a good markup but after all the hassle of trying to find them I'm good with it.
on amazon search B007RFRHIY
Good luck.

A510 Accessories Thread

I don't see one, so I'll start one. List any A510 accessories you have seen, have on order or currently own. Please keep it specific to the A510, no generic sleeves/bags/keyboards since they're pretty universal among all tablets.
I'll kick it off with the A510 case I ordered off of Amazon yesterday. Look pretty nice from the pictures, and the price is definitely good ($13 + FS). It says leather, we'll have to wait and see if it's actually real dead cow. The USB port looks accessible when the case is in the 'keyboard' position, may help with my biggest criticism of the design.
The only immediate drawback is delivery, estimated for July 2nd
http://www.amazon.com/Executive-Pre...MJYW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337790016&sr=8-1
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I have this one, just got it yesterday. Very similar to the one you linked from Amazon. I paid $17, but it's down in the $13s now.
The case is lovely, nice feel, good fit. Slim - doesn't add bulk. What I hesitate on is the tablets performance in the case. Touch sensitivity seems less responsive and my webpages are loading poorly. I'm not ready to throw it out yet, going to play with settings an make sure it's not the home router or anything. Will report back once I've used it more.
This seller has a couple others available and one thing I can say is that it was hands down the best transaction as far as communication that I've had on Ebay. It's a chinese seller, they were extremely communicative. Even contacted me after the purchase to make sure I'd read that it wasn't shipping til May 13... it said that in the auction but they wanted to be sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22101167987...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_7049wt_1270
A510 Car Charger
UPDATE 6/14/12: Received replacement charger. Different body style, with a circular connector at the end mating to a micro-USB adapter. Thinking he finally got it right...
WRONG! Same thing happened, plug it into the tablet and the fuse blows. Pretty sure I know why, I believe the voltage is going to the wrong pins. Why do I think that? Because my freaking USB port doesn't work for data transfer any more, either from a memory stick or to my PC. Looks like the USB data lines are fried, but I can still use the Acer charger to charge it. So now I've got to set my new baby in for repairs, glad I kept my A500 as a backup.
Sucks being a guinea pig. I'm just going to order another wall charger, I've got a small inverter in the truck to plug it into. Should have known better, I told him to take down the Amazon listing before anyone else blows up their A510, if I get any crap from him I'll be taking it up with Amazon.
UPDATE 6/10/12: Vendor believes he sent the wrong charger, is sending another. Will update post when received.
DO NOT ORDER THIS CHARGER.
It seems to be just a regular micro-USB 5V charger used for cell phones. Plugging it in to the tablet immediately blows the fuse, at least that works the way it should. I will be contacting the vendor for a refund.
Next up from Amazon, ordered an A510 car charger. I've seen other products from this seller before, looks like this one has been custom made and molded. Under $25 w/shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/correct-SELLE...LLYI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1337964814&sr=8-5
Looking at the rooCASE Executive Portfolio for the A510 scheduled to be released on June 6th http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Execu...=UTF8&qid=1334913673&sr=8-8#productPromotions
$3.00 off when combined with Invisible Screen Protector http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Invis...OPS6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338061946&sr=8-1
The A500 equivalent has some awesome reviews -->Exectuive Portfolio A500
rooCase Dual Axis http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Dual-...YW/ref=sr_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1338063763&sr=8-25
Blurex Case http://www.amazon.com/ICONIA-folio-Multi-Angle-Stand-Blurex/dp/B00823NK4U/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Another slim case http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-Smart...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item4ab7c770d4
OTG/USB Host Cable (right angled) http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-M...BYJ4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1338055488&sr=8-4
loonix said:
$3.00 off when combined with Invisible Screen Protector
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Received this today. Applied it right away and it is a perfect fit with the A510. Comes with a barcode sticker for video which is this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6RU3O15QPI
They show it being applied to an iPad, but the steps are the same. I aligned it with the hole for the front camera and then down.

Tablets and USB OTG - Flash drives with micro USB?

With the rise in popularity of tablets and smartphones, and the microUSB port as the standard for these devices, could we see some flash drives designed for tablets that make use of the microUSB connector?
I'd love to buy a 64GB flash drive that can plug straight into my Nexus 7 and my smartphone and my friends' devices too.
It'll probably be charged at a premium due to the relatively niche usage, but regular 64GB drives are pretty cheap these days, and they're only going to get cheaper.
Has anyone seen or heard of anything like this? A USB OTG adapter isn't so big or expensive but it'd be great to have a storage device that works natively.
Um....a lot of us do this already. Hell, I watched a movie off of a flash drive today. Hyst get stickmount on a rooted N7. I got the micro usb to female usb on ebay for 99 cents shipped.
Maybe I misunderstand the question?
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I think he meant flash drives with micro usb in it already as in the mount is micro instead of having an adapter
I did a search and this is all I could find:
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=2704
Not exactly convenient the way it is. They would've been smarter putting the micro USB port on the side, but even then, very pricey.
ace7196 said:
Um....a lot of us do this already. Hell, I watched a movie off of a flash drive today. Hyst get stickmount on a rooted N7. I got the micro usb to female usb on ebay for 99 cents shipped.
Maybe I misunderstand the question?
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post the ebay link please
AZImmortal said:
I did a search and this is all I could find:
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=2704
Not exactly convenient the way it is. They would've been smarter putting the micro USB port on the side, but even then, very pricey.
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From another thread:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297...sid=p3984.m1497.l2649&clk_rvr_id=369343095826
popsnorkle said:
From another thread:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297...sid=p3984.m1497.l2649&clk_rvr_id=369343095826
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Definitely a better price, but still inconvenient to have the connector on the end like that. I think that at least for now, it's more convenient to just have a separate cable, not to mention that I don't think I'd trust the reliability of these no-name flash drives in the long run.
Looking for something small to was also hoping to get an otg flash drive best I can find is one of these http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1387 plugged into one of these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-USB...867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf4fbb. :crying:
Edit anyone interested found these http://adafruit.com/products/939 will take up to 64gb micros sdxc card just placed my order hope to get nexus in a few weeks.
I dream of this
I think what all of us dream of is something like this but just with microUSB connection and preferably with Nexus color and design!
vyaghini said:
I think what all of us dream of is something like this but just with microUSB connection and preferably with Nexus color and design!
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You mean like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Micro-Flash-DTMCK/dp/B007V9U81E/
ilanad said:
You mean like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Micro-Flash-DTMCK/dp/B007V9U81E/
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That picture clearly shows a normal-sized USB connector, not a microUSB connector.
GinoAMelone said:
That picture clearly shows a normal-sized USB connector, not a microUSB connector.
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I was looking for it too, didn't know so many people want a micro-sized USB connector Thumb Drive. It's hard to make it myself. I started but it didn't work out that good
I'd like to find one of these, too. Or even find out what ace in post 2 was referencing.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
This would be better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929214
I made this one for my cellphone
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Funny that enough of us think alike that threads like this get going...
Problem is, how do you then connect the otg thumb drove to your pc? There would also have to be a backward adapter. Also a switch to un-short the pins that define it as an OTG device.
That's why the cables are an easier way to go for now. ..
How about this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Smar...18?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1360147908&sr=1-18
Or:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Connection-...300/dp/B006I31SHC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_computers_11
Or:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/4GB-USB-Flas...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f212aa7e7

			
				
This is what we need.
SanDisk 128GB microUSB
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SanDisk 128GB microUSB
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Yep, that is it ... finally.
Where did you find it?

Longshot -->Spare parts source for a Yoga Tablet 2 830F - 8"?

Does anyone have any ideas where I can find replacement parts for this thing? Specifically I'm seeking the little flex board that houses the micro USB connector. It's my wife's tablet and she's hard on connectors. I've repaired several of her phones but this tablet is more obscure it seems.
I've been searching based on printing on the part and I can find a pic of it from google image using "lenovo Blade2_8" but the link to a russian website doesn't go to the part shown.
It looks like this:
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Drew
this one or this search and i think you can find more
hardware manual
Thank You! I searched everywhere I could think of; not sure how I missed the eBay one, that's my goto source for most things like this.
I'm hoping that it is the bum part as the device still recognizes that a USB is plugged in momentarily. It's a $50 guess.
delawaredrew said:
Thank You! I searched everywhere I could think of; not sure how I missed the eBay one, that's my goto source for most things like this.
I'm hoping that it is the bum part as the device still recognizes that a USB is plugged in momentarily. It's a $50 guess.
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wow... that ebay seller sure has a good margin considering the import statement found here it costs 1.5 us dollars per unit (not even 2), yet the seller is the one who makes the price, if you have someone who can buy from and send it to you from china... or some friend in russia for this one i am sure is way cheaper ... or just go to a near lenovo support service that does hw repairs and beg for it or tell them that you will pay double the price (3 usd)
you can also search for the part yourself, i just linked the fast found search results
delawaredrew said:
Does anyone have any ideas where I can find replacement parts for this thing? Specifically I'm seeking the little flex board that houses the micro USB connector. It's my wife's tablet and she's hard on connectors. I've repaired several of her phones but this tablet is more obscure it seems.
I've been searching based on printing on the part and I can find a pic of it from google image using "lenovo Blade2_8" but the link to a russian website doesn't go to the part shown.
It looks like this:
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Drew
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If I were you, I would order a new USB connector and then solder it to the ribbon in place of the old one. It is tricky, but doable. Just need a fine tip soldering iron and some helping hands and a pair of tweezers. You do not want to let the ribbon cable heat up and melt. That would be the end. But, like I said, it can be done.
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I bought and replaced the whole part and it works, charging as normal.
The $50 price tag was steep for a part that probably cost $0.10 in China but, whatever; that's why I work . And my wife is happy now. So I'll consider it a worthy investment.
Jaytronics - I usually do OK fixing my own stuff but I've never been any good at soldering. I'm shaky on a good day and I don't get much practice. I can get it done on larger things but on something that size I'd probably bridge 2 pins or something. I thought about trying it when I failed to find the whole piece but doubt won.
Thanks for the input guys. XDA saves the day again.
Now if I can just find a root and ROM for it.... it doesn't play with Hulu well on stock ROM.
Drew

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