Questions from a potential Oneplus 8 buyer - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.

PieceKeepr said:
I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Hello there,
Long time HTC use myself since the beginning (G1 days)
I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device which absolutely ticks single box, plus it looks slightly funky too which as an ex HTC owner I really like that.
TWRP actually is not needed at all.
Magisk ROMs install using magisk, AOSP, PA, pixel ROMs all install using a bat file inst adb / fastboot, to rescue you can do several things.
For magisk ROMs that fail simply boot to safe mode then reboot and they'll be deactivated.
For custom ROM recovery you have several choices, the main one is the MSM tool which is an official OnePlus deployment / maintenance tool that can return you to stock in a few minutes, the other would be to extract the payload.bin of a firmware (the ROM part) then use the installer bat you used to install the custom ROM.
Kernels can be installed using a kernel manager like ex kernel manager so no worries there.
As for a functional TWRP. If you remain on Android 10 then you have it. 11 is currently being worked on and is making great strides from some talented Devs.
In all it's a good situation, the phone is brilliant; no two ways about it, the community is thriving and when you notice it go quiet it's usually because everything for everyone is working perfectly, I personally couldn't go back to HTC now unless they dropped a true beast of a phone.
The only gripe I have about the whole device and development community is the camera on custom ROMs, it's GCam or third party software which for most is ok. But I missed the stability of OOS and using all four cameras.
That being said there more than enough to keep you occupied and flashing the best ROMs you'll find on XDA, that will only continue and get stronger.

dladz said:
I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device...
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.

PieceKeepr said:
That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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Yea my thoughts exactly, initially I wanted to root and go a bit nuts but the stock OS is actually really well made, I use CPL launcher to give me the extra options visually.
I turn off zram and make a few CPU / GPU tweaks in ex manager but beyond that I don't need anything else.
If you can't be bothered debloating or you want mods with the stock OOS then choose xXx or R-Ice.
Again there will be more.

From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)

reilus said:
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
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Is there an 8T pro?
The 9 pro should be a beast but....
Not sure where they can go in regards to innovation but they're on a particular path now, but the size can't be bigger, it's already IP certified and has wireless charging, RAM is maxed out.
I think the major changes are going to be the battery, maybe the cameras (again), possibly audio and hopefully efficiency.
Maybe a more dedicated gaming mode or some aftermarket peripherals like the ROG and razor.
Time will tell but I like the formula they have with the 8 pro, the build quality is superb.
Perhaps the screen will be upgraded too.

The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
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The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
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Yep that's kind of what I was saying.. (well I wasn't far off) same size, camera upgrade, no word on gaming but I like the direction they were going with that, other things like wireless charging and IP have been done and as such they're staying, no word on audio but hopefully they do bump that up.
I think Moore's law is finally dying on mobile chips the 865 and coupled adreno in the 8 pro are stupendous chips, the games that it's capable of running beats the Shields Nvidia chip which is considerable when you think about it and unless the 888 doubles up, it's an evolution rather than revolutionary chip In comparison.
I'm not sure I'd bother getting the 9 or 9 pro, I don't see the upgrade worth it. If I was on a 6 or maybe a 7 pro then perhaps but the 8 pro for the first time in my android life actually is going to last it's contract duration due to it being such a strong phone, unless maybe you've got screen issues.
Unless they add aperture control to the camera
U never know

Was a HTC fun. Awesome phones, but soft upgrades suck.
I recomend 8 Pro. Now you can buy it cheap from online sales forums. I pay 570 euro for just the phone (like new). I already have warp charger and cables. 8/128 gb new cost 900 euro.
Unfortunately 9 pro will not be much of a difference. "Leaks" SD 888, some camera updates, 65w warp charge. Wireless still 30w. Still Great. I use it. It's awesome.
512gb memory it will hurt the price bad.
My hope was that they give us a square flat screen with no creap front camera.

My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?

I did not try to root on Android 11. So i rollback to Android 10 (some months ago)
My safe instalation: i was on Android 11, i go back (rollback zip) to Android 10.
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Then use dladz guide to root :
(GUIDE) Unlocking bootloader, Rooting - from start to finish UPDATED.
Hi all, Have looked around the guides and such on these threads for the Oneplus 8 Pro and haven't found a full comprehensive guide outlining all parts of the bootloader unlocking and root process, so thought I'd put together my experience for...
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Steps to upgrade and keep root:
1- Uninstall ALL Magisk modules (if you have any). Reboot to System.
2- install Oos stable or open beta with Settings > Local upgrade . DON'T reboot!!!
3- Open Magisk > Install. Choose (Install to inactive slot after' OTA). DON'T reboot !!!
4- Back in Magisk > Install > Direct install.
5- Reboot to system.
Now you are on the latest version of Android and root.

PieceKeepr said:
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
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As @null0seven said there's a few, the bootloader one is one of mine.
I have a payload dumper thread in guides, it outlines all the methods to root, the one Null has mentioned is the bootloader unlock although the root method is a little dated now. Probably best to stick with booting rather than flashing patched images.
There's two slots on the OnePlus 8 Pro.
A and B
They can carry different images independently, although only one can be used at a time.
Give the booting a patched image of the guide a look at it's the easiest.
When it comes to updating simply remove active magisk modules, take the update but don't reboot or the update will replace the patched boot image.
Whilst in the above state magisk has the ability to patch on the fly, this is due to the update alternating boot image slots.
So the method of root when taking an OTA (which must be full btw) is to take the update then without rebooting, open magisk and flash to open slot, then simply reboot and you're back in the new OS with root and all your data/apps and storage has been retained as you left it.
All this is outlined in the guide.
If you get stuck let me know or just pop a question in there, either myself or someone else will help you. But the guides should be though, plus nearly every scenario has played out in there so check search too.

Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.

PieceKeepr said:
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
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No worries man.
It's really easy tbh.
My advice is make friends with payload dumper and oxygen updater, always use the beta version of magisk, just change the channel to beta then update.
Beyond that it's a doddle.

Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?

PieceKeepr said:
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
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you're very welcome mate, glad you're sorted.
So what i would do is one of two things. You can either uninstall the apps using ADB or you can freeze them, tbh freezing has been spot on for me.
I've nuked with ADB the ones i really hate.
OR NoLimits xXx has a great debloater tool.
System doesn't have access anymore unless it's unmounted i believe, so magisk can obtain access (i could be wrong there but i think that's how it is able to make changes there)
Heres a great guide on the adb uninstall process: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If theres an app you want to get rid of just google search it and go from there.

Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k

Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Great Buy! Enjoy a OnePlus classic device...

Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?

dladz said:
Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
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Private Seller, met on offer up so everything was cash. Original box and charger. And Day 1 screen protector on the front(so no scratches I can see for now both front and back). Bezel has the most wear. Paint chip on top right and tiny paint wear from repeated probing of the sim car slot hole. Overall I feel like it's a good buy for the price I got it at

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[Q] New Owner of Transformer TF300T

Hi everyone, great threads on this forum and it's helped guided me with a lot of questions that I've been facing.
So my wonderful gf bought me this tablet as a surprise last week, I've greatly enjoyed it.
But I'm still a little tossed up on it, the experience with the tablet has been mixed.
At times it's great speedy, responsive, and probably providing me with the best first time experience with a Android based tablet.
Other times not so much, I do understand this is a year old tablet, not the latest and greatest (as far as the RAM goes, display can be a little better but still awesome). So at times it would be sloooooooooooow, and chuggish.
I remember reading on the forum somewhere forgot who posted it, but they were comparing a Samsung Note/Galaxy to this and it's night and day at times, games would be running a lot more smoother on those units then this one. (which I've come across when I was showing off to my cousins and they had a Note, showoff failed)
So I just have a couple of questions and maybe you guys can all help me with a few suggestions.
Is this table worth keeping? Or do I wait for the next generation of the Transformer to come out?
Should I root/custom Rom for a better experience? But then again, shouldn't a brand new out of a box tablet give me that optimum experience already?
I've searched and read multiple threads and it's given me somewhat of a direction.
But waiting for a brand new tablet with Tegra4 + more RAM otw could also be more worthwhile.....
My gf paid retail value for this tablet (which is pretty steep up in Canada 500$?), so I'm just trying to see what would be the best...either I return and wait up? or Root/Rom and try the new experience.
I know I've been a little vague,but I really don't know what else to add as I'm still a FOB (fresh on the boat :fingers-crossed with Android Tablets.
I guess, am I expecting too much out of a unit that is a year old?
Lummers said:
Hi everyone, great threads on this forum and it's helped guided me with a lot of questions that I've been facing.
So my wonderful gf bought me this tablet as a surprise last week, I've greatly enjoyed it.
But I'm still a little tossed up on it, the experience with the tablet has been mixed.
At times it's great speedy, responsive, and probably providing me with the best first time experience with a Android based tablet.
Other times not so much, I do understand this is a year old tablet, not the latest and greatest (as far as the RAM goes, display can be a little better but still awesome). So at times it would be sloooooooooooow, and chuggish.
I remember reading on the forum somewhere forgot who posted it, but they were comparing a Samsung Note/Galaxy to this and it's night and day at times, games would be running a lot more smoother on those units then this one. (which I've come across when I was showing off to my cousins and they had a Note, showoff failed)
So I just have a couple of questions and maybe you guys can all help me with a few suggestions.
Is this table worth keeping? Or do I wait for the next generation of the Transformer to come out?
Should I root/custom Rom for a better experience? But then again, shouldn't a brand new out of a box tablet give me that optimum experience already?
I've searched and read multiple threads and it's given me somewhat of a direction.
But waiting for a brand new tablet with Tegra4 + more RAM otw could also be more worthwhile.....
My gf paid retail value for this tablet (which is pretty steep up in Canada 500$?), so I'm just trying to see what would be the best...either I return and wait up? or Root/Rom and try the new experience.
I know I've been a little vague,but I really don't know what else to add as I'm still a FOB (fresh on the boat :fingers-crossed with Android Tablets.
I guess, am I expecting too much out of a unit that is a year old?
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Welcome on board, I've had the same experience like you with the tablet so I am going to provide you with some thoughts of mine, there is also a thread called "would you buy this tablet again" somewere.
I'd highly recommend using an app called clean-master it's basically Androids counterpart to the famous CCleaner on a pc, whenever the tablet feels slow/laggy run it.
The display is ok, but like you said it could and should be brighter with a higher PPI but since it's more of a budget tablet Asus had to cut costs somewhere.
Better experience:
Rooting and flashing a custom ROM would be a good way to get a way better experience out of this thing. After receiving mine baack I've installed Paranoid 3.99 althoug it's not the official release it is very stable, responsible and offers a lot of customization options, stock Android ones are heavily lacking. You can also overclock this thing without any worries for example mine is running at 1,5 ghz right now and the experience is way better then before although for most of my stuff already to fast, since I am only doing notes, browsing and emailes on my tablets.
If I were you, I would wait for the TF 701 release:
Screen: 300ppi 2560 x 1600 resolution
inside: 2 gb RAM 1,9 ghz Tegra 4 cpu
according to Asus it will cost 499 $ with an included dock station, like all Asus tablets it offers an SD slot hopefully on the tablet and the dock
If you are looking for even more power the next note from Samsung might be worth a look, the screen quality will be the same but it comes with powerful 3 GB of RAM, so perfect for multitasking if you need it the downside is Samsung is looking at a 699 $ pricetag.
Hope that helps and welcome aboard
frankgreimes said:
Welcome on board, I've had the same experience like you with the tablet so I am going to provide you with some thoughts of mine, there is also a thread called "would you buy this tablet again" somewere.
I'd highly recommend using an app called clean-master it's basically Androids counterpart to the famous CCleaner on a pc, whenever the tablet feels slow/laggy run it.
The display is ok, but like you said it could and should be brighter with a higher PPI but since it's more of a budget tablet Asus had to cut costs somewhere.
Better experience:
Rooting and flashing a custom ROM would be a good way to get a way better experience out of this thing. After receiving mine baack I've installed Paranoid 3.99 althoug it's not the official release it is very stable, responsible and offers a lot of customization options, stock Android ones are heavily lacking. You can also overclock this thing without any worries for example mine is running at 1,5 ghz right now and the experience is way better then before although for most of my stuff already to fast, since I am only doing notes, browsing and emailes on my tablets.
If I were you, I would wait for the TF 701 release:
Screen: 300ppi 2560 x 1600 resolution
inside: 2 gb RAM 1,9 ghz Tegra 4 cpu
according to Asus it will cost 499 $ with an included dock station, like all Asus tablets it offers an SD slot hopefully on the tablet and the dock
If you are looking for even more power the next note from Samsung might be worth a look, the screen quality will be the same but it comes with powerful 3 GB of RAM, so perfect for multitasking if you need it the downside is Samsung is looking at a 699 $ pricetag.
Hope that helps and welcome aboard
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I've been following that thread Is it still worth buying this tablet extensively, it's been very very informative.
From what I got after reading that thread is that a lot of people are happy with this tablet.
I've decided to keep this tablet for now, and if/when the next generation one does come out, maybe I'll pawn this off and hopefully get that one.
Would you guys be able to guide me into which thread might have a list of roms that I may find that may be suitable for me?
As well as which information you would need from me to help you with a selection.
Thank you guys.
Lummers said:
I've been following that thread Is it still worth buying this tablet extensively, it's been very very informative.
From what I got after reading that thread is that a lot of people are happy with this tablet.
I've decided to keep this tablet for now, and if/when the next generation one does come out, maybe I'll pawn this off and hopefully get that one.
Would you guys be able to guide me into which thread might have a list of roms that I may find that may be suitable for me?
As well as which information you would need from me to help you with a selection.
Thank you guys.
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Personally I am still undecided in terms of waiting for the TF 701 or even the next generation, if Asus does I can see them packing it with 4 gig of RAM and then we can really talk about multi tasking but the TF 701 looks really great from what I've seen and read so undecided.
In terms of ROM I am big fan of Cyanogenmod and Paranoid, both are offering great customization options, superuser abilities right from the installing and of course a much smoother experience than stock Android.
Paranoid has an unofficial 3.99 (Android 4.3) build currently and Cyanogenmod is offering Nightly builds, since both aren't official releases some things might not work yet but they are for the most part stable. I would manually install them and use a tool like goomanager for flashing/updating the ROM if available.
frankgreimes said:
Personally I am still undecided in terms of waiting for the TF 701 or even the next generation, if Asus does I can see them packing it with 4 gig of RAM and then we can really talk about multi tasking but the TF 701 looks really great from what I've seen and read so undecided.
In terms of ROM I am big fan of Cyanogenmod and Paranoid, both are offering great customization options, superuser abilities right from the installing and of course a much smoother experience than stock Android.
Paranoid has an unofficial 3.99 (Android 4.3) build currently and Cyanogenmod is offering Nightly builds, since both aren't official releases some things might not work yet but they are for the most part stable. I would manually install them and use a tool like goomanager for flashing/updating the ROM if available.
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I'm a little torn as well....the TF701 does look amazing spec wise...I'm still contemplating if I should return and grab that one....but my first tablet...kind of want to pop my Root/Custom rom cherry with this one as I've read great reviews about it from everyone on the forum so far. :good:
Is there a thread/site that you can kindly guide me to so I can take a look at these ROM's to see what they offer me and which one might suite me the best?
As well would I be able to retain the Asus Apps or would it be a clean slate ROM?
Still a little lost on some of these ROM options, and if I didn't like the ROM's is it possible to go back to factory defaults?
Thanks once again, much appreciated.
Lummers said:
I'm a little torn as well....the TF701 does look amazing spec wise...I'm still contemplating if I should return and grab that one....but my first tablet...kind of want to pop my Root/Custom rom cherry with this one as I've read great reviews about it from everyone on the forum so far. :good:
Is there a thread/site that you can kindly guide me to so I can take a look at these ROM's to see what they offer me and which one might suite me the best?
As well would I be able to retain the Asus Apps or would it be a clean slate ROM?
Still a little lost on some of these ROM options, and if I didn't like the ROM's is it possible to go back to factory defaults?
Thanks once again, much appreciated.
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Things to make sure before doing that:
1. Use the right version for your bootloader of either Clock Work Mod oder Team Win Recovery Projects
2. Backup all your important apps with Titanium Backup Pro
Links Cyanogenmod, Paranoid is also known as AOSPA you can get it here they used to have an official website but can't find it right now also you are going to find a lot of versions including the newest in the Development section of this forum.
You can also use the GooManager to flash/update your ROMS, especially useful if you are using nightly builds for Cyanogenmod
as for the Asus Apps:
It really depends what you need, personally I've done a full app backup and only restored the ones I sometimes use such as livebackgrounds, if so mething important is still missing I'll just restore it using Titanium Backup
Going back to your "usual Asus ROM" is rather easy:
Just use CWM or TWRP and select the Restore option
Before installing a new ROM:
Do a davlik/system/cache/data wipe, I would not recommend to wipe the whole internal or external sd card because all your data will be lost so be careful there
I am sure there are people who can give you a way better introduction on all the available Roms than me, since I am just stickong to the ones that work perfect for me and I am only having this tablet since may so good luck
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Things to make sure before doing that:
1. Use the right version for your bootloader of eitherClock Work Mod oder Team Win Recovery Projects
2. Backup all your important apps with Titanium Backup Pro
Links Cyanogenmod, Paranoid is also known as AOSPA you can get it here they used to have an official website but can't find it right now also you are going to find a lot of versions including the newest in the Development section of this forum.
You can also use the GooManager to flash/update your ROMS, especially useful if you are using nightly builds for Cyanogenmod
as for the Asus Apps:
It really depends what you need, personally I've done a full app backup and only restored the ones I sometimes use such as livebackgrounds, if so mething important is still missing I'll just restore it using Titanium Backup
Going back to your "usual Asus ROM" is rather easy:
Just use CWM or TWRP and select the Restore option
Before installing a new ROM:
Do a davlik/system/cache/data wipe, I would not recommend to wipe the whole internal or external sd card because all your data will be lost so be careful there
I am sure there are people who can give you a way better introduction on all the available Roms than me, since I am just stickong to the ones that work perfect for me and I am only having this tablet since may so good luck
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Awesome!! :good:
You've been of great help.
I'll browse around those ones for sure and take a look and learn some more before doing anything.
Are there any other steps I would need to do prior to flashing a rom?
I've been reading unlocking the unit before flashing the ROM? Not too sure what that is about.
As usual Thanks!
Lummers said:
Awesome!! :good:
You've been of great help.
I'll browse around those ones for sure and take a look and learn some more before doing anything.
Are there any other steps I would need to do prior to flashing a rom?
I've been reading unlocking the unit before flashing the ROM? Not too sure what that is about.
As usual Thanks!
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Glad, I've helped you
Steps you need
1. rooted tablet just search for motorshoper here - just subscribe to the thread it's an awesome tool to get superuser "root" access
2. download the bootloader unlocker from the Asus webpage
should work flawlessly if you aren't sure,about having root rights use an app like root checker
be aware always make sure to read the steps carefully and only download the right TWRP or CWM version for your bootloader. Also search for potential problems before atempting to downgrade versions, without having a working backup this way you are going to save yourself a bit of time and trouble.
frankgreimes said:
Glad, I've helped you
Steps you need
1. rooted tablet just search for motorshoper here - just subscribe to the thread it's an awesome tool to get superuser "root" access
2. download the bootloader unlocker from the Asus webpage
should work flawlessly if you aren't sure,about having root rights use an app like root checker
be aware always make sure to read the steps carefully and only download the right TWRP or CWM version for your bootloader. Also search for potential problems before atempting to downgrade versions, without having a working backup this way you are going to save yourself a bit of time and trouble.
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Thanks!!
Super excited now to see the potential of this tablet!
Can't wait.
I'll be doing a little research to see which one fits me the best for my needs.
Lummers said:
Thanks!!
Super excited now to see the potential of this tablet!
Can't wait.
I'll be doing a little research to see which one fits me the best for my needs.
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Thats part of the fun when you are using custom ROMs there are tons outthere and thanks to the former mentioned tools trying them out and see if they fit you, is easy.
Can't wait to change my blackberry so I can enjoy custom Roms on my handy too.
frankgreimes said:
Thats part of the fun when you are using custom ROMs there are tons outthere and thanks to the former mentioned tools trying them out and see if they fit you, is easy.
Can't wait to change my blackberry so I can enjoy custom Roms on my handy too.
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Gasssps Blackberry?
I'm on the iPhone 4 so I shouldn't be saying much..
Question - any reason why I would go with a nightly build over a RC/S build?
Lummers said:
Gasssps Blackberry?
I'm on the iPhone 4 so I shouldn't be saying much..
Question - any reason why I would go with a nightly build over a RC/S build?
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Well I love their keyboards but the lack of custom roms and superuser rights is very disappointing,.at.least you can jailbreak the iPhone.
The differences are as follows:
Nightly builds are less stable and some things might not work right now but they include newer features
Stable/RC builds are more stable and most if not all features are working flawlessly
so which build to use will fully depend on what you want, if you are looking for the newest 4,3 features nightlies are the one to go, if you value a stable and feature complete build more I'd go with a RC/S type. The middleway would be to choose a monthly build sadly there aren't any available for CM right now.
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Well I love their keyboards but the lack of custom roms and superuser rights is very disappointing,.at.least you can jailbreak the iPhone.
The differences are as follows:
Nightly builds are less stable and some things might not work right now but they include newer features
Stable/RC builds are more stable and most if not all features are working flawlessly
so which build to use will fully depend on what you want, if you are looking for the newest 4,3 features nightlies are the one to go, if you value a stable and feature complete build more I'd go with a RC/S type. The middleway would be to choose a monthly build sadly there aren't any available for CM right now.
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Hmmm I'll look into those again and see
I'm having a problem right now...
I got CWM installed fine (I Think)
The problem I'm having is when I go to choose zip from sdcard, it won't mound the sdcard or the internal
So I'm stuck...I can't seem to root it now.
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Hmmm I'll look into those again and see
I'm having a problem right now...
I got CWM installed fine (I Think)
The problem I'm having is when I go to choose zip from sdcard, it won't mound the sdcard or the internal
So I'm stuck...I can't seem to root it now.
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Have you done it, in the correct order? First you need to add the ROM, then "add more Zips" select the gapps file
I've had the same problem with the external SDcard so I moved it to the internal one and it worked, but sorry no clue why it doesn't work with an external one
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Have you done it, in the correct order? First you need to add the ROM, then "add more Zips" select the gapps file
I've had the same problem with the external SDcard so I moved it to the internal one and it worked, but sorry no clue why it doesn't work with an external one
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Here are my steps
1. Unlocke downloaded from Asus site
2. Downloaded CWM
3. Fastboot loaded CWM
After that I logged onto the Recovery
Tried installing from SDcard to root
But can't detect, another thread a nice gent, has given me the pointer to try to use TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446177
So I'm going to give that a shot and see if that helps me out more.
Lummers said:
Here are my steps
1. Unlocke downloaded from Asus site
2. Downloaded CWM
3. Fastboot loaded CWM
After that I logged onto the Recovery
Tried installing from SDcard to root
But can't detect, another thread a nice gent, has given me the pointer to try to use TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446177
So I'm going to give that a shot and see if that helps me out more.
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Have you installed the .blob or .img file?
If you are using TWRP there is also a tool called TWRP Manager: so you can normally boot your tablet with it, start the manager make all the settings and it will automatically reboot your tablet into recovery mode.
Personally I have tried CWM and TWRP liking TWRP better too.
Another step you can check:
Go into Goomanager - Settings and look for the default "save folder" if you are having your .zip files in another folder make sure, to put them into this directory. Usually it's something like goomanager/Roms/ or so.
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Have you installed the .blob or .img file?
If you are using TWRP there is also a tool called TWRP Manager: so you can normally boot your tablet with it, start the manager make all the settings and it will automatically reboot your tablet into recovery mode.
Personally I have tried CWM and TWRP liking TWRP better too.
Another step you can check:
Go into Goomanager - Settings and look for the default "save folder" if you are having your .zip files in another folder make sure, to put them into this directory. Usually it's something like goomanager/Roms/ or so.
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So I have TWRP installed, man all I can say is that it is night and day in the steps of setup.
So much easier and direct.
I've downloaded goomanager I'm taking a look at it now and seeing what I can do.
I'm running Cromi-X right now and browsing no longer lags, I'm content.
Wondering what else I can do now.....
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So I have TWRP installed, man all I can say is that it is night and day in the steps of setup.
So much easier and direct.
I've downloaded goomanager I'm taking a look at it now and seeing what I can do.
I'm running Cromi-X right now and browsing no longer lags, I'm content.
Wondering what else I can do now.....
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Something I'd highly recommend:
check the app privacy rules and remove all the permissions most apps shouldn't have i.e using your location, reading SD or contact lists
personally I have also overclocked my tablet it is running at 1.5 ghz now could go as far as 1.7 but I am very happy with the performance so far
another cool thing most custom roms provide is the ability to customize your lock screen.

Just bought a Mate 8

Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.
Welcome aboard!
Welcome to Huawei Mate 8 club
darbylonia said:
Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.
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Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
Samavb said:
Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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Thanks Sam - I'l take a look at Nougat update. I won't get it until Monday so I'll just keep reading until then! Super excited.
Just got my Mate 8! Ready to mod the hell out of it! [goes back to reading forum].
:good:
Samavb said:
Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs
Thestarki said:
There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs
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Hi,
You are right. There are bugs.
I have NXT-AL10 there are two more updates after B562. B573 and B575. They are slightly ok. I don't know what is the equivalent version of that for your model L29.But you might find minor improvements in the updates.
Can you take a screenshot of settings-> account e-mail>"add account" page?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Sam
So I spent several hours today with my Mate 8 unlocking bootloader and rooting. It was a little tricky, primarily with drivers issues - every device is different with unlocking/rooting. The whole DC unlocker and reading bootloader code - what fun!
So now I have a Mate 8 with unlocked bootloader and rooted...now what to do? Now I'm researching the different ROM options, nougat, etc. It still seems tricky with the encryption thing and the builds/versions thing and isn't as straight forward!
Back...to the boards.... LOL.
Love the device -- glad I got this thing.
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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If you're going to unlock and root it, give a shout if you run into any problems. I made it through but a few hiccups along the way.
Now the decision is what ROM to do!!!
It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.
hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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sharkonland said:
It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.
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Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.
darbylonia said:
Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.
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i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol
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i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol
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How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.
darbylonia said:
How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.
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well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.
RomyRodriguez said:
well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.
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Thanks - very helpful! Helps me to understand the steps better.
I'm still reading about the ROM options - KangVIP, Twisted, Nougat...to see what I want to try first. :silly:
Keep us posted on what rom you try. Im also looking into nougat roms but have read so far they are not fully stable yet. My current rom, b211, runs perfect for me so i dont want to run into issues with essentially beta builds.

SamFAIL Galaxy Note8 (7.1.1 U1,U2,U3 Bootloader ONLY)

Just to make it easier, heres the redirect link to main post by @me2151
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-samfail-galaxy-note8-t3685340
? I can't understand the sentence.
I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
Dbzfan said:
I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
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Free paid themes from Samsung?

			
				
ThaHaloMilitia said:
Free paid themes from Samsung?
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Still not worth it anymore in my opinion.
Can even wps attack without root. I used to load kali Linux but no point anymore.
Now if I could get root for magisk I wouldn't mind it (hidden root)
Dbzfan said:
I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
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Totally agree. I've rooted every Android phone I've owned, except this one. No need to anymore in my mind.
does this root work on the bql9 update
Eddieray313 said:
does this root work on the bql9 update
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yeah, i just finished making the bql9 update, i currently have a dec sec patch rom out that is bqla (tmobiles) release of dec sec patch. essentially the same thing only 1 app i see that differs between the 2 updates (sprint vs tmob)
but as long as you your firmware is rev2 ( usq2 or older usq1 ) then you can samfail.. Once 8.0 oreo launches it will be a usq3 bootloader and will lock you to anything 3 or newer and samfail does NOT work for 8.0 and wont ever work as it is. The security policy updates in 8.0 lock selinux on and is set to never be over-ridden and set to permissive.
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yeah, i just finished making the bql9 update, i currently have a dec sec patch rom out that is bqla (tmobiles) release of dec sec patch. essentially the same thing only 1 app i see that differs between the 2 updates (sprint vs tmob)
but as long as you your firmware is rev2 ( usq2 or older usq1 ) then you can samfail.. Once 8.0 oreo launches it will be a usq3 bootloader and will lock you to anything 3 or newer and samfail does NOT work for 8.0 and wont ever work as it is. The security policy updates in 8.0 lock selinux on and is set to never be over-ridden and set to permissive.
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I was wondering if my phone would work. I kinda dropped off the tech world recently because of work and now I have a baby at home. I kinda forgot what to look for and have you figured out the 80% battery bug.
Eddieray313 said:
I was wondering if my phone would work. I kinda dropped off the tech world recently because of work and now I have a baby at home. I kinda forgot what to look for and have you figured out the 80% battery bug.
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no its not really a bug per say. The combo boot.img is set to restrict battery capacity at 80% full. There is no FIX for this unless we can get bootloader unlocked.
I know the Dev of the WETA mod over on the tmobile side got creative with his mod. Essentially built a 3minit hack that adjusts the battery percent up to 80% to simulate a full charge, but this isnt fixing anything, just making you feel better seeing 100% at the end of the charging period lol
That and the display FPS bug caused by the boot.img. Periodically when unlocking phone the screen will be kinda jacked up and running on super low fps and glitchy, locking and unlocking screen resolves this bug.
In all im 100% root all the way. even if i dont use anything root enabled i want the ability to do so and i like building the roms/updates as they release and learn/watch what changes each revision.
I too have rooted nearly all my phones except when root method needed adb can't get adb working on Windows 10. However want to root my Note 8 Snapdragon but can't find a single custom Rom for it! Exynos yes not snapdragon. So anybody know how to get adb working on Windows 10?
windhoarse00 said:
I too have rooted nearly all my phones except when root method needed adb can't get adb working on Windows 10. However want to root my Note 8 Snapdragon but can't find a single custom Rom for it! Exynos yes not snapdragon. So anybody know how to get adb working on Windows 10?
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Ive stayed rooted since my first S3 myself and at this point, Im almost regretting my shiny new N8! I remember not being able to swing a cat by the tail without smacking it into a different ROM that I had to make room for! Trying 2 or 3 new specimens every night. But now, it feels like dried up wells and tumbleweed. Thanks Samsung. God forbid we should do what we want to do with the gizmos we shelled out all that granola for. I'm just trying to keep V4A cuz it does what I want. But it looks like I, once again, ask for too much! Sorry I wasn't any help with the ADB thing.
Note 8 will probably be the last Samsung I own, unless Samsung bakes in some decent audio tools. V4A is the ONLY reason I root. LG's starting to look pretty good in the audio area.
I apologize as this thread is ancient. However, I have acquired a Galaxy Note 8 on vzw. Thankfully, the phone is still on v1 and version 7.1.1. I have tried to root using SamFail, however I receive a failed to mount error, and a Kernal crisis . I have rooted several devices including an S6. Subsequently, I needed to restore the phone to stock on both attempts. Ultimately, what is the reason for this error, and what can I do to resolve and root. I need to permanently keep 7.1.1 (thus could I do this is dev options)?

Windows phonwe user finaly switching over.

Was a windows phone user. So im totally new to this. Could use some help. I have a g5 plus. FRESH OUT THE BOX! I want to put lineage on this bad mamajama but i have absolutely no idea where to start. Im told root then install but im still not sure where to start. Apps i need are gmail, one note, gab, minds, youtube, brave. I would appreciate if you fine android wizards could point me to the proper step by step tutorials. I dont want to brick this sucker. Thanks!
Also get telegram and join the G5+ group. many devs for the roms we use are active daily.
I also recommend to stay on the stock ROM at least for a little while. I used to always root but now stock Android is pretty nice and the rooting scene has changed a lot since I was in it. There are some potential problems and it is usually recommended to have some basic knowledge when rooting instead of blindly following a guide.
All those apps should be available at the Play Store (maybe not GAB (oh boy)) but I suggest you look into YouTube Vanced instead of using the stock YouTube app
Last year I switched from a Lumia 640 lte to the G5 Plus after being on that platform for 3 years. First thing I did was search for similar apps that I used. As for the launcher, I settled for Launcher 10 which is very close to the original start screen and app list on windows 10 mobile paired with 'Whicons' pack. It has plenty of space for apps and other files.
Now under a year of ownership, it's running stock Oreo from side loaded zip. it's been a great experience, never rooted or needed a custom rom.
Thanks for the advice everybody. I was able to get everything taken care of.
@ElroyJx Hey that setup looks pretty great. Wouldnt have imagined someone would have gone to the trouble to make a launcher to mimic windows phone.

New S5e SM-T720, stay on stock or flash?

I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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If I was going to use the tablet myself, I'd certainly flash a custom ROM and get root access. But for a 12yr old girl, I'd stay with stock and know she'd be getting the latest security updates. It's not like this was an 8 or 16gb tablet where getting rid of bloatware would be a major concern. It has plenty of storage and RAM to handle that. Just my two bits.
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
ExTall said:
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
miangelgabriel said:
Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I can't really say as I installed package disabler pro when I first had the tablet as I hate apps like bixby.
My tablet has always seemed plenty fast to me
Regards Extall
Not much bloatware on One UI.
Sent from my SM-T720 using Tapatalk
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I have read books with $29 dollar chinese knockoffs. How long does it take to turn a page? My very first tablet had an Antutu of about 900. This one about 185,000. I was still able to "surf the net" with that first one. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beginning to doubt that. I think it is in the MIND of the beholder. How anyone can consider this tablet slow for surfing or social networking, just blows my mind. "OH, but my latest and greatest iPad is just SOOO much better."
I can't remember having an Android device since my OG Droid that I didn't root and flash. I'm going to skip that for this S5e, for the first time. Everything I do with it these days, my head isn't bumping into it's 'ceiling', so to speak. My SM-T580 was a different story (thank goodness for @followmsi and @srgrussso among others), and custom paid off very well.
Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.:laugh: :highfive:
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I have the Verizon LTE version and even with the Verizon preinstalled apps it doesn't take up a lot of space. I have the 64GB version and I had PLENTY of space for all of my apps. I put a 512GB microSD card in it so I don't have any space issues.
I rooted the SM-T725 few months ago when i got it but this was the 3rd time i had problems booting up and the twrp backup didn't work this time so i just cleaned it and i use stock now and i removed bloatware with ADB. I use only open source software no more google. But that just my way, if you want to root go with it but if its just to remove bloatware just use ADB.
Android 10 coming this june/july and probably android 11 will come to this tablet too because samsung does 2 major android updates to the device they release. If they don't you can unlock the bootloader and install android 11 in the future if a developer make it of course but i doubt it because galaxy tab s6 lite is coming soon so i don't know the future of this tablet.
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I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded.
But on TWRP's site it says you have to root before installing a "rooted TWRP" image?
What's with this?
Not asking for a full tutorial but seriously TWRP can't just be flashed in Odin then vbmeta multi-
disabler, WIPE, then flash ROM + Magisk?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. My posts elsewhere are days old & no replies....
zach
I just got this tablet yesterday. I've had several previous Android tablets and phones and I've always rooted them. So far, I haven't run into anything that makes me want to root this one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is a battery protection setting that allows you to limit charging to 85%. Normally, you have too root to do that. I may find a need to root somewhere down the road, but right now I'm hoping to get by with stock and unroofed.
Can you keep dex on other ROMs?
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded
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I've done it a few times and I would recommend following the maintainers instructions, LuK1337's Instructions . Dont skip anything, dont add anything, dont wipe anything that isnt listed, follow them exactly.
This tablet is picky. Magisk can be flashed in TWRP, but from what Ive found many modules can't, they will make the tablet fail to boot. Most modules can only be flashed in Magisk. My recommendation would be to get it booting before adding modules or even Magisk for that matter.
I'm using mine as stock, and this seems plenty fast for the 2 weeks I've owned it. Slow to read books? That sounds like an app problem - moon reader on a 2018 Fire HD 8 didn't have a problem reading books. How slow is the Fire 8? If I was in plex, hit the home button, and started netflix it was about 10 seconds from the press of the home button until netflix was responsive.
Besides, do you really want to have to fix your kid's devices when they inevitably have a problem?
**Edit** I also have a question. Are there any security issues when flashing roms or rooting on this like with the phones with KNoX and not being able to use secure folder and such? Im guessing if I flash a ROM I'd also be losing access to this right? (samsung apps and secure folder) Thank you!
Ughh Im kind of regretting buying this tablet now..did I make a mistake? From what Ive seen on here, it sounds like its best not to root it. Ive found that on some newer devices, irts best not to root them to avoid unnecessary problems because some just dont work well with root and magisk, especially if a lot of the modules arent going to work. I mean I dont really have any reason to root this except for not being able to use / change the themes. I cant believe they dont have the theme store on this tablet! I'm so bummed thats one of the good things about samsung phone that I miss.

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