Just bought a Mate 8 - Mate 8 General

Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.

Welcome aboard!

Welcome to Huawei Mate 8 club
darbylonia said:
Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.
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Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam

Samavb said:
Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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Thanks Sam - I'l take a look at Nougat update. I won't get it until Monday so I'll just keep reading until then! Super excited.

Just got my Mate 8! Ready to mod the hell out of it! [goes back to reading forum].
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Samavb said:
Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs

Thestarki said:
There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs
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Hi,
You are right. There are bugs.
I have NXT-AL10 there are two more updates after B562. B573 and B575. They are slightly ok. I don't know what is the equivalent version of that for your model L29.But you might find minor improvements in the updates.
Can you take a screenshot of settings-> account e-mail>"add account" page?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Sam

So I spent several hours today with my Mate 8 unlocking bootloader and rooting. It was a little tricky, primarily with drivers issues - every device is different with unlocking/rooting. The whole DC unlocker and reading bootloader code - what fun!
So now I have a Mate 8 with unlocked bootloader and rooted...now what to do? Now I'm researching the different ROM options, nougat, etc. It still seems tricky with the encryption thing and the builds/versions thing and isn't as straight forward!
Back...to the boards.... LOL.
Love the device -- glad I got this thing.

just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight

hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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If you're going to unlock and root it, give a shout if you run into any problems. I made it through but a few hiccups along the way.
Now the decision is what ROM to do!!!

It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.

hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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sharkonland said:
It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.
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Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.

darbylonia said:
Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.
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i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol

RomyRodriguez said:
i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol
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How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.

darbylonia said:
How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.
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well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.

RomyRodriguez said:
well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.
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Thanks - very helpful! Helps me to understand the steps better.
I'm still reading about the ROM options - KangVIP, Twisted, Nougat...to see what I want to try first. :silly:

Keep us posted on what rom you try. Im also looking into nougat roms but have read so far they are not fully stable yet. My current rom, b211, runs perfect for me so i dont want to run into issues with essentially beta builds.

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Huawei Mateb9 pro, do you recommend it?

Hello,
I'm reading for a while about Huawei mate 9 pro and found many reviews and comparisons which are very promising.
I really trust this forum and i became little worried when I couldn't find that many threads about it. So I'm asking people who used this device if they recommend to purchase this phone or not.
Appreciate your advices amd thanks in advance.
Reo0o said:
Hello,
I'm reading for a while about Huawei mate 9 pro and found many reviews and comparisons which are very promising.
I really trust this forum and i became little worried when I couldn't find that many threads about it. So I'm asking people who used this device if they recommend to purchase this phone or not.
Appreciate your advices amd thanks in advance.
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This is just my personal opinion and experience of the phone, im just loving the phone, it has extremely good camera that i use taking photographs in every situations, the low light photos could be better, but i think software updates can improve that part. There has not been any lagging, everything is so smooth and fast, also i havent had any problems with notifications, they work perfectly in every app i use. There are some bugs in the EMUI 5 software like font changing works only in english language etc, but i think those will be fixed in future updates. Battery life in my personal usage has been very good, usually at night time i have 25-30% battery left even i use phone very much during the day, anyway i would personally recommend this phone to anyone because it is very good phone and i just love it.
Yes, best Android experience I've had in a long time. And, I come from a long line of Samsung devices.
Thanks guys.
What about the wifi issues that many people talk about, have you encountered any bug like this?
Zero issues with Wi-Fi here, what issues are you talking about?
cmd512 said:
Zero issues with Wi-Fi here, what issues are you talking about?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204
Reo0o said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204
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No idea, zero such issues here.
thanks bud
Best android around.
People who are after an Iphone built quality and super Android performance at 20% to 30% cheaper comparatively should go after the Mate 9 Pro .There is no similar package around.Dual sim and 128 GB plus 6 GB RAM are insuring it to be the best Android for the months to come regardless what Samsung will try to promote.That Phone is the best i had.
I also like the phone a lot ,the feature i was looking for most was great battery life on a high end device (had the S7 edge,Oneplus 3T before this one ) the battery life is amazing and this is the only phone that I do note have to charge to top up the battery during the day.
Buy it, no regrets.
that sounds promising
thanks guys for your reviews.
but don't you find it weird that there is no section dedicated for this device till now in the forum?!
Pedometer
zaki67 said:
I also like the phone a lot ,the feature i was looking for most was great battery life on a high end device (had the S7 edge,Oneplus 3T before this one ) the battery life is amazing and this is the only phone that I do note have to charge to top up the battery during the day.
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Hello
Is it possible to disable the pedometer?
I now that I can hide the notification on the lockscreen, but I would like to disable it.
Regards
my only complaint with my M9Pro here in the USA is that i'm still stuck on B124. check for updates through HiCare everyday and nothing. Called Huawei customer service and they say they roll out updates by serial# but I've seen around 2 updates so far that people are on which means that Huawei CS is full of it.
I hate when updates are super delayed. I love the M9Pro but I'm really missing my Nexus 6P because of this one issue. The lack of current security updates and such is nerve racking
Crazypinoy9 said:
my only complaint with my M9Pro here in the USA is that i'm still stuck on B124. check for updates through HiCare everyday and nothing. Called Huawei customer service and they say they roll out updates by serial# but I've seen around 2 updates so far that people are on which means that Huawei CS is full of it.
I hate when updates are super delayed. I love the M9Pro but I'm really missing my Nexus 6P because of this one issue. The lack of current security updates and such is nerve racking
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Here is the solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204/page5
Install huawei Firmware finder and read the details
Actually that's relieving. I was worried about the updates too.
Do you have any idea if we can root it and if it's safe?
as i remeber rooting marshmallow devices was affecting their performance and disabled certain apps in samsung devices
geokaf said:
Here is the solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204/page5
Install huawei Firmware finder and read the details
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While I do know of this method and appreciate your assistance, the point I was trying to make was that getting updates shouldn't require us to jump through external hoops. The manufacturer needs to make updates more easily accessible and if they know they can't do that because of all the customizations they implement then they should consider just using stock android and build their proprietary apps to be Play Store downloadable and simply put restrictions that limits those apps to be installed on certain phones.
Why not just get the China version, works flawlessly on US networks + you get the updates.
U can delete the fitness app
sorry if this is the wrong place to post this..
I am looking to get the mate 9 pro
Are any of you on Tmobile in the USA, and, do you get 4G/LTE?
The reseller I have been emailing with on Amazon says you do NOT get 4GLTE on Tmobile in the USA with this phone, but I have read that you do.
Thanks if you can help with this! :good::good:

New user, need "help"!

Hello guys!
After one month with the Mate 10 Pro i decided to switch to 1+6T, 256/8gb version. I just ordered my phone so i'm still waiting for it, but i would like to see some opinions about what should i do with the phone in the start. Tweaks, things, what version of android shoul i install, and eveything else you thinks is usefull. Thanks!
Sheldd said:
Hello guys!
After one month with the Mate 10 Pro i decided to switch to 1+6T, 256/8gb version. I just ordered my phone so i'm still waiting for it, but i would like to see some opinions about what should i do with the phone in the start. Tweaks, things, what version of android shoul i install, and eveything else you thinks is usefull. Thanks!
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Welcome to the OnePlus Family :highfive:
Have a look around and the best practice is to read. If you are a pro user you can unlock and root your device. There are 2 software branches right now, Stable & Beta , both are daily driver material. You can install any of these, just follow post 3 for flashing instructions :good:
See you around :highfive:
Funk Wizard said:
Welcome to the OnePlus Family :highfive:
Have a look around and the best practice is to read. If you are a pro user you can unlock and root your device. There are 2 software branches right now, Stable & Beta , both are daily driver material. You can install any of these, just follow post 3 for flashing instructions :good:
See you around :highfive:
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Thanks a lot! In fact, thats the point i'm giving the Mate 10 Pro to my mother and switching to 1+6T. I'm not a "really" pro user, but i love playing and trying more things on a phone. Switching roms, root things and other stuff like that. I'm sick of the lack of updates on Huawei too... And emui sometimes drive me crazy. Clean android ftw! I only hope the battery will be good enough because i use a lot Facebook and Instagram, apps that were killing Huawei's battery... ? I would like to know if stable Pie is release for this model. Thanks in advice!
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Thanks a lot! In fact, thats the point i'm giving the Mate 10 Pro to my mother and switching to 1+6T. I'm not a "really" pro user, but i love playing and trying more things on a phone. Switching roms, root things and other stuff like that. I'm sick of the lack of updates on Huawei too... And emui sometimes drive me crazy. Clean android ftw! I only hope the battery will be good enough because i use a lot Facebook and Instagram, apps that were killing Huawei's battery... ? I would like to know if stable Pie is release for this model. Thanks in advice!
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This device is Pie out of the box and there has been a few updates as well. Both stable and beta are made on 9.0 platforms. As mentioned above there are seperate threads running on stable and beta releases and you can follow any one. For better battery life I would recommend to stick to stable for a while and have a look around.
Sent from my OnePlus6T using XDA Labs

Is it still worth it to get an this phone in 2019 for 200$?

coming from the HTC m8 and this is the second closest thing to a cheap phone that throwing build quality away! (or is all glass). the first being the HTC 10 which is actually cheaper at 160$ but for people on that side of xda said that its battery cant handle anything. what about the Axon 7? I'd be flashing Stock on day one so skin isn't a factor for me.
No. the phone has a very good hardware, but the software is very unstable and nothing works. stay away.
Mine works. Still my daily driver on stock Oreo. I think many people stuff with their phones too much and ruin them.
I have bought mine several weeks ago and I am quite happy about it. A good thing is that there are lots and lots of working ROMs and utilities for it. It is almost unbrickable also.
I love the phone. I prefer Huawei but zte is great too. THe axon 7 is a great phone but the axon m is on sale everywhere for 200. I would get that. comes with the 821 and 4 gb of ram and fold in half screen.
I'm still using my Axon 7 as a daily driver. I think for $200 it's still a solid buy in 2019.
dodo34 said:
No. the phone has a very good hardware, but the software is very unstable and nothing works. stay away.
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Can you elaborate more on what you mean by the software is unstable and nothing works? Just curious because I've been running all versions of stock Android and never encountered anything unstable, nor would I claim that nothing works. Phone works awesome even in 2019. Sure we don't have any updated cellular bands, or most recent hardware, but the phone is still solid for general use.
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Can you elaborate more on what you mean by the software is unstable and nothing works? Just curious because I've been running all versions of stock Android and never encountered anything unstable, nor would I claim that nothing works. Phone works awesome even in 2019. Sure we don't have any updated cellular bands, or most recent hardware, but the phone is still solid for general use.
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If you are ok with being on Nougat for the rest of the time you have this phone, then it is a good deal for you, use Nougat stock and stay there. Everything Oreo is broken in some way and drains more battery, ZTE gave us broken Oreo and quit dev for this phone.
Then there is Pie GSI via Treble, which will break more features and opens up another mess of things to learn, and you will be flashing things almost daily trying to fix something, which will most likely break something else.
Hardware specs are good, but software is a mess. Unless like I say, stay on Nougat.
As much as I love my Axon 7, and not going to replace it anytime soon, I think the Pocophone F1 is a much better choice hardware-wise in 2019 and it costs not much more than 200$.
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If you are ok with being on Nougat for the rest of the time you have this phone, then it is a good deal for you, use Nougat stock and stay there. Everything Oreo is broken in some way and drains more battery, ZTE gave us broken Oreo and quit dev for this phone.
Then there is Pie GSI via Treble, which will break more features and opens up another mess of things to learn, and you will be flashing things almost daily trying to fix something, which will most likely break something else.
Hardware specs are good, but software is a mess. Unless like I say, stay on Nougat.
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What about the LOS and PIE based roms? From reading some of those threads it appears they work well? No?

why less custom roms

hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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We have Resurrection Remix that is stable
There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.
sir
FreshlyBaked 420 said:
There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.
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the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
thank you
ayurmouli said:
the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
thank you
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Yes custom Roms aren't what they used to be. There's still options though. We do have stable TWRP on A10, A11 is going to take time. Not everything happens overnight. Rooting isn't hard either really.
The overall OS have improved a lot...
ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few custom roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.
yes
Burt Squirtz said:
You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few customer roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.
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exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately
ayurmouli said:
exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately
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That's right. I'm flashing roms since my galaxy S1. Ive never had a phone without custom rom. But nowadays stock roms starting to be better an better. Even MIUI is a great rom if you debloat it a lot! Today I'm only rooted with a custom kernel. I don't want to miss OEM feature and just want to have a stable rom! And with OxygenOS we have it!
There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..
I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.
Yes thx, I've been on pixels for the last few years & always on a custom rom. I got kona soon as I could and have been loving it. While I have used magisk modules and custom kernel, this is the first time in a really long time that I've stayed on the stock os. The os has came a long way and am thankful to have kona and wouldn't change it for nothing. I've really enjoyed this device so far. Anyway thanks for sharing and just thought I'd share my thoughts.
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I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.
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Aye I've done the same, even the pixel seems lacking.
Are we looking at it wrong though? I mean back on the HTC devices I've owned sure I did a tonne of flashing but I usually settled on 1 or 2 ROMs and we do have more than that here, so do we have what we need rather than what we want?
Lol I'm sure we'd all prefer the latter, I would too, but it's something to think about, I mean Paranoid Android is here, sure it's had less updates than an rtx 3090 but it's here
To add to what others are saying... Cooking a ROM is a very time consuming project. Not a lot of people want to spend the time on it anymore. When I first got a smart phone, it was an HTC touch diamond. Windows phone OS. Back then, tons of people were learning to create custom ROMs and mods for them. That has slowly dwindled over time. On Android, ROMs were mostly created to get AOSP ported to most devices. Nowadays, all phones have custom hardware that needs a factory ROM to be useful. AOSP is not very desirable as it is the most basic form of Android with only basic functionality for mostly Pixel phones. Most people are now only concerned with using a debloated stock ROM and rooting for modules etc. This is the norm. I don't think it will change. It is what things have evolved into over time.
Also we can install treble ROMs can't we?
I've talked about this before.
There should be dedicated sections for functional treble ROMs where common issues can be laid bare so they can at least be worked on with specific device owners.
Asking a question about your own device in a treble thread seldom gets an answer.
AFAIK we'd need twrp unless Fastboot can be used? Not sure, have only managed to get one treble ROM to boot back on the p20 pro when I had it unlocked.
Most of it worked if memory serves..I'll give them a whirl next time I Bork my system or i get bored and will make a thread detailing which ones work.
i will never go for huawei
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There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..
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never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining
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never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining
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Actually I couldn't disagree more.
Point being the OS even without root is still better, still more open and content is still better.
Think Apple TV Vs Shield TV Pro, I can play Wii, GameCube, Dreamcast, arcade, neogeo, SNES, megadrive, Atari, Amiga, spectrum commodore, Amstrad, pc engine, pc games, Android games, can watch any movie, listen to any music, connect any controller (multiple controllers) wired or wireless, have it as a searchable Nas drive in my network, watch IPTV through it.
Apple TV can be used for apps like Netflix, that is it.
No file manager, no emulators, nothing.
iOS is not better than Android, not even close, maybe the camera and that's due to singular hardware.
Also Huawei/ honor devices DID allow bootloader unlocking, I know this as I unlocked my p20 pro they stopped it in July 2018 and then reopened it briefly in late 2018, nothing since.
Before this time it was always open, they partnered with XDA to promote their devices and then when they gathered ground they pulled the rug out from underneath everyone's feet, Huawei are slime, they deserve to be hit financially.
Anyone who bought a p30 or p40 is either not bothered about rooting or doesn't want the latest and greatest hardware (Mali GPU is horrific, Kirin is a joke)
If anyone does buy Huawei, they're contributing to the problem as they're still giving money to a company who went against everything that Android stands for.
There is literally no point of there being a P40 forum or P30. It's not even Android in my eyes.
The only way that will reverse is if people stop buying from Huawei/honor, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
Going back to Apple, the only device I like from them is their MacBook Pro simply for it's trackpad as I love the features it offers, but as an OS? No I'm always the phone nor OSX can cut it Vs Windows/Android..
And would you pay £2,500 for the privilege of using their trackpad? No I'd rather buy a top gaming rig.
It'll always be this way, Jesus iOS just got widgets lmfao,, welcome to 2007 Apple, haha.
And you think is better? You must be joking.

Questions from a potential Oneplus 8 buyer

I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
PieceKeepr said:
I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Hello there,
Long time HTC use myself since the beginning (G1 days)
I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device which absolutely ticks single box, plus it looks slightly funky too which as an ex HTC owner I really like that.
TWRP actually is not needed at all.
Magisk ROMs install using magisk, AOSP, PA, pixel ROMs all install using a bat file inst adb / fastboot, to rescue you can do several things.
For magisk ROMs that fail simply boot to safe mode then reboot and they'll be deactivated.
For custom ROM recovery you have several choices, the main one is the MSM tool which is an official OnePlus deployment / maintenance tool that can return you to stock in a few minutes, the other would be to extract the payload.bin of a firmware (the ROM part) then use the installer bat you used to install the custom ROM.
Kernels can be installed using a kernel manager like ex kernel manager so no worries there.
As for a functional TWRP. If you remain on Android 10 then you have it. 11 is currently being worked on and is making great strides from some talented Devs.
In all it's a good situation, the phone is brilliant; no two ways about it, the community is thriving and when you notice it go quiet it's usually because everything for everyone is working perfectly, I personally couldn't go back to HTC now unless they dropped a true beast of a phone.
The only gripe I have about the whole device and development community is the camera on custom ROMs, it's GCam or third party software which for most is ok. But I missed the stability of OOS and using all four cameras.
That being said there more than enough to keep you occupied and flashing the best ROMs you'll find on XDA, that will only continue and get stronger.
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I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device...
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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Yea my thoughts exactly, initially I wanted to root and go a bit nuts but the stock OS is actually really well made, I use CPL launcher to give me the extra options visually.
I turn off zram and make a few CPU / GPU tweaks in ex manager but beyond that I don't need anything else.
If you can't be bothered debloating or you want mods with the stock OOS then choose xXx or R-Ice.
Again there will be more.
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
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From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
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Is there an 8T pro?
The 9 pro should be a beast but....
Not sure where they can go in regards to innovation but they're on a particular path now, but the size can't be bigger, it's already IP certified and has wireless charging, RAM is maxed out.
I think the major changes are going to be the battery, maybe the cameras (again), possibly audio and hopefully efficiency.
Maybe a more dedicated gaming mode or some aftermarket peripherals like the ROG and razor.
Time will tell but I like the formula they have with the 8 pro, the build quality is superb.
Perhaps the screen will be upgraded too.
The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
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galaxys said:
The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
www.tomsguide.com
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Yep that's kind of what I was saying.. (well I wasn't far off) same size, camera upgrade, no word on gaming but I like the direction they were going with that, other things like wireless charging and IP have been done and as such they're staying, no word on audio but hopefully they do bump that up.
I think Moore's law is finally dying on mobile chips the 865 and coupled adreno in the 8 pro are stupendous chips, the games that it's capable of running beats the Shields Nvidia chip which is considerable when you think about it and unless the 888 doubles up, it's an evolution rather than revolutionary chip In comparison.
I'm not sure I'd bother getting the 9 or 9 pro, I don't see the upgrade worth it. If I was on a 6 or maybe a 7 pro then perhaps but the 8 pro for the first time in my android life actually is going to last it's contract duration due to it being such a strong phone, unless maybe you've got screen issues.
Unless they add aperture control to the camera
U never know
Was a HTC fun. Awesome phones, but soft upgrades suck.
I recomend 8 Pro. Now you can buy it cheap from online sales forums. I pay 570 euro for just the phone (like new). I already have warp charger and cables. 8/128 gb new cost 900 euro.
Unfortunately 9 pro will not be much of a difference. "Leaks" SD 888, some camera updates, 65w warp charge. Wireless still 30w. Still Great. I use it. It's awesome.
512gb memory it will hurt the price bad.
My hope was that they give us a square flat screen with no creap front camera.
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
I did not try to root on Android 11. So i rollback to Android 10 (some months ago)
My safe instalation: i was on Android 11, i go back (rollback zip) to Android 10.
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Then use dladz guide to root :
(GUIDE) Unlocking bootloader, Rooting - from start to finish UPDATED.
Hi all, Have looked around the guides and such on these threads for the Oneplus 8 Pro and haven't found a full comprehensive guide outlining all parts of the bootloader unlocking and root process, so thought I'd put together my experience for...
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Steps to upgrade and keep root:
1- Uninstall ALL Magisk modules (if you have any). Reboot to System.
2- install Oos stable or open beta with Settings > Local upgrade . DON'T reboot!!!
3- Open Magisk > Install. Choose (Install to inactive slot after' OTA). DON'T reboot !!!
4- Back in Magisk > Install > Direct install.
5- Reboot to system.
Now you are on the latest version of Android and root.
PieceKeepr said:
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
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As @null0seven said there's a few, the bootloader one is one of mine.
I have a payload dumper thread in guides, it outlines all the methods to root, the one Null has mentioned is the bootloader unlock although the root method is a little dated now. Probably best to stick with booting rather than flashing patched images.
There's two slots on the OnePlus 8 Pro.
A and B
They can carry different images independently, although only one can be used at a time.
Give the booting a patched image of the guide a look at it's the easiest.
When it comes to updating simply remove active magisk modules, take the update but don't reboot or the update will replace the patched boot image.
Whilst in the above state magisk has the ability to patch on the fly, this is due to the update alternating boot image slots.
So the method of root when taking an OTA (which must be full btw) is to take the update then without rebooting, open magisk and flash to open slot, then simply reboot and you're back in the new OS with root and all your data/apps and storage has been retained as you left it.
All this is outlined in the guide.
If you get stuck let me know or just pop a question in there, either myself or someone else will help you. But the guides should be though, plus nearly every scenario has played out in there so check search too.
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
PieceKeepr said:
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
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No worries man.
It's really easy tbh.
My advice is make friends with payload dumper and oxygen updater, always use the beta version of magisk, just change the channel to beta then update.
Beyond that it's a doddle.
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
PieceKeepr said:
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
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you're very welcome mate, glad you're sorted.
So what i would do is one of two things. You can either uninstall the apps using ADB or you can freeze them, tbh freezing has been spot on for me.
I've nuked with ADB the ones i really hate.
OR NoLimits xXx has a great debloater tool.
System doesn't have access anymore unless it's unmounted i believe, so magisk can obtain access (i could be wrong there but i think that's how it is able to make changes there)
Heres a great guide on the adb uninstall process: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If theres an app you want to get rid of just google search it and go from there.
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Great Buy! Enjoy a OnePlus classic device...
Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
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Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
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Private Seller, met on offer up so everything was cash. Original box and charger. And Day 1 screen protector on the front(so no scratches I can see for now both front and back). Bezel has the most wear. Paint chip on top right and tiny paint wear from repeated probing of the sim car slot hole. Overall I feel like it's a good buy for the price I got it at

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