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Hey guys, just a quick question. Please please excuse me for I am definitely a noob, but I've done some research about rooting and what it offers yet I still don't know how to use it. It feels much like learning how to drive a stick... understanding in theory, but difficult in application until practice. My note 3 is rooted, but I still have no idea what and how much I can do from here. Not to mention, while I'm doing research and trying to educate myself, there are some names and terms I do not understand. Anyway, let me just write some of the questions I have in a list:
1) Cyanogenmod. Is it available for verizon note 3 running 4.3? I keep getting search results that there are while the cyanogenmod website itself doesn't offer it? I also got a Nexus 7 to try to expand my knowledge in this field, and it does have cyanogenmod installed. Now, to my understanding, it runs side by side with the Android OS while it basically strips the device's bloatware, giving you the pure, simple, raw experience of Android OS. If I were to install cyanogenmod to the note 3, how would it affect the camera functions and the s pen functions? The reason why I ask about the camera is because using my Nexus's camera and looking at some youtube videos of note 2's with cyanogenmod, it seems like it would actually be a downgrade from the note 3's stock camera. And as far as the S pen goes, I've realized that I would lose the action notes, s notes, and sketchbook for galaxy apps, wouldn't I? How could I go around that?
2) Flashing ROMS. What exactly does this do? All I can find is that it allows me to customize my phone, but I don't seem to understand to what extent.
3) Kernels. What are these?
Lol, so sorry for such basic questions. But I would really really appreciate your patience and information!
CyanogenMod is unofficially available for the Note 3. Not everything works. CyanogenMod is a ROM that changes the software on the phone. It's a more customized version of Android, and very close to "stock". If you use CyanogenMod however, you will lose your S-Pen and it's features, along with all of the other TouchWiz features of the phone (gestures, split screen, etc.). The S-pen will act as a basic mouse pointer. CyanogenMod is not pure AOSP, it's quite far from it. It's similar, but very different from a pure Google experience. It's really a beast of it's own in my opinion, and is now a stand alone company that will seek to profit off of the ROM (likely by coming standard on some devices). That's not to say it isn't good, I run it on most of my other devices but on the Note 3, without the S-Pen it's just a big phone.
ROM's are customized versions of Android typically created by a developer or group of developers. The features of each ROM will change. A 4.3 TouchWiz rom might remove all of the carrier bloat (applications not likely used, but run in the background and offer little no actual use to anyone). They'll also provide enhancements and tweaks that make life a little easier like a quick-access flashlight tied to your volume up button, or the ability to remove certain icons from the notification panel, a batter percentage indicator in the notification panel, removing the exchange security permissions, or just general speed improvements over the factory settings. There are many advantages to a ROM and once you use them you'll likely never go back to stock. The ROM features are typically listed in the ROM's topic.
There are many ROM's out there for many different devices, so make sure you only install one that is made for your phone. You'll also hear about AOSP ROM's, these are stock or close-to-stock versions of Android, typically found on Nexus devices. The way Google intended Android to be used.
Android uses a Linux Kernal. It's a customized version of Linux. It's the base operating system behind Android. Similar to ROM's, different kernals can offer different levels of customization, however they won't be as prevalent as a ROM since they deal more with the core of the operating system. The Kernal will manage the drivers for all the different components of the phone, like your radios (how you receive a phone signal), your sensors, camera, CPU, etc. Be especially careful when changing Kernals, it can drastically affect your phone, and possibly permanently.
I'll put in the caveat that this is my understanding, and may not be 100% accurate. People are welcome to correct my mistakes and misunderstandings I may have =)
I hope you find it helpful!
Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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It did! Thank you very much!
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It did! Thank you very much!
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The only option with Safestrap and therefore on newer Verizon Note 3's is a ROM based on stock, so Cyanogenmod isn't an option at all.
I would consider Hyperdrive. Enhanced app windowing options, Xposed framework to get rid of earphone hearing damage warning and never ending reminder about how to clear default apps and tons of little customizations. Getting rid of boot sound is reason enough for me.
Other things on your checklist whether you get a custom ROM or not is Adaware, which you can download on xda to block ads. Need Titanium Backup to back up apps with data, something you can't do without root and very useful when switching ROMs or phones. Lots of other useful tools like Root Explorer on Google Play. If you stick with your stock ROM, do the mod to allow free tethering for Wi-Fi.
Since you like your S Pen, you need Pen Window Manager, available on Play to choose for yourself which apps can run in a pen window. That was one of the big reasons I wanted to root this phone.
By the way, once you find a ROM you like, it's best to nandroid back it up, backup the stock ROM for safety, then restore your custom ROM to the Safestrap stock slot. The ROM 1-4 slots have limited storage so not great long term solution if you have a lot of apps, etc.
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Hi!
I'm a new Nexus Player-user!
I just picked up mine from the store and have a few questions before I dive into it all.
Mainly, what will I gain by rooting and installing CyanogenMod 12.1 on my Nexus Player? And maybe more importantly, will I lose any functionalities?
Is it OK to update the original firmware (if there is one) before I root and install CM12.1?
And last, is there anything else I should know or think about?
Any answers are helpfull!
Thanks in advance!
Over 60 have read, and no reply? :crying:
I'm just sitting and looking at this thing, itching to give it a try, but I don't dare until someone can answer my questions... Sorry for being such a stupid noob. I'm just scared to screw something up.
I just got mine as well. But i have a several year history of tinkering with android. As efrant taught me long ago with my gnex, read and understand first, tinker later. If you know exactly what you are doing and how youll recover in the event of failure, then you are set. If you just use toolkits and run into issues, most more experienced users will not have the patience to help the impatient. So... Have you booted it up and used the stock software yet? How do you like it? Anytime you change firmware you are gaining and losing. It can change the whole experience. Since you just got it though, one suggestion is to fastboot unlock it now, so you're not concerned with backups and losing data later. There is a guide around here.. Cyanogenmod has been around a while and its definitely worth trying their software. They likely have root in their firmware and you do not need to install it separately. Also, there is no real reason to update your rom if you are just going to swap it with cyanogen anyway.. I primarily use root for elevated privileges and tinkering. Until you know you need it, you can hold back. So onto my experience: I just hooked up my nexus player the other day and found it unbearable. Basic setup and it was unbelievably slow. The reason seemed to be the attempt to update its software in the background. So last night i did it manually, and boy what a difference it made. But it still is a bit of a letdown. My initial goal with it is to get xbmc back up and running for streaming. I have not fully investigated it yet, but i suggest you also look into it as another aftermarket option. See tvaddons.org; you are looking at kodi or tvmc.
I do have the Nexus Player rooted and a custom ROM. So far a bit better use of side loading applications and cloud applications. I like the flexibility.
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Thanks for your reply guys!
I've unlocked bootloader and rooted my NP, but nothing more than that.
I do like the stock rom quite a bit, especially the GUI, but I feel VERY LIMITED with such little storage space.
It's very off-putting that the voice search feature does not work with CM-12.1 yet, since I like it a lot, but not having the possibility of expanding my storage space with a usb stick with the stock rom is a BIG let down.
So it really comes down to what I value the most...
Is CM-12.1 the only custom rom that has a GUI that's very similar to the one on the stock rom?
Is voice search broken on all custom roms out there?
I am more of a iOS-guy, and this is really the first time dipping my toes into tinkering with Android.
give the dev preview of android m a shot. natively you can browse now additional memory. definitely better if you like the leanback experience. all other custom roms are giving more a complete android experience. as said, try the dev preview m. it surprised me a lot. of course there are some bugs in there but it let us hope to come more...
Much like the rest of other guys say. A custom ROM will give you a more "full Android OS" experience. I upgrade to 6.0 (M Preview) and must say the experience is great. I was able to use an OTG cable with multiple outlets to connect a USB keyboard/mouse combo and a 32GB flash drive I had laying around. The experience is great and works wonderfully.
Can this device run full Android apps with the stock firmware or is it limited to TV apps?
Codename_Falcon said:
Can this device run full Android apps with the stock firmware or is it limited to TV apps?
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Of course it can. You need to sideload them and use a mouse to have good control within them though.
dannyboyswe said:
Is CM-12.1 the only custom rom that has a GUI that's very similar to the one on the stock rom?
Is voice search broken on all custom roms out there?
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I know this is a little bit late and time has passed but the launcher for CM12.1 depends on what you select, and if you install GAPPs for android TV.
All custom ROMs built from the AOSP base have a broken voice search due to it being a proprietary binary driver with no open source component. Unless someone builds a wrapper or reverses and reimplements the driver this will continue for a long time.
It is great
Just get android 6
Hey guys, I’ve been off android for about 3-4 years now, but I’m purchasing a 6t today through t-mobile and I have a few questions before I may decide to root.
1) I know there is this feature a lot of apps use now a days called safety net. I play Pokémon go pretty frequently and it does perform a safety net check (I know because I had to unroot an old back up phone just to play) is there any way to have root and somehow pass safety net?
2) I’m looking for a google pixel like experience, I see there are a couple roms on here for that, but if I avoid the root path is there a launcher that gives me all the round icons like a google pixel with the same look and feel?
3) random questions but how does everyone here like the phone? Camera quality is huge to me and I’m coming from an iPhone with great camera quality, is there any tips to improve the camera on this device? How is battery life in the real world?
4) everyone’s favorite rom? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of options which surprised me for this phone. I honestly thought dev would be off the charts for this phone.
Thanks for taking the time. Back in the day I would have sat for endless hours researching all of this to avoid the “use search” trollers.. But nowadays I work 70 hours a week and have kids to attend to, so free time is limited.
Thanks guys
I love my 6T, coming from a 3T. LG and Samsung before that. This 6T is a beast!
First, skip the T-Mo version, particularly if you plan to root. You will have to jump through hoops to get it unlocked if you buy direct from OnePlus.
The stock ROM is excellent and things have come a long way over the years. I was planning to root, but so far haven't bothered. I used to root largely to let me use Titanium backup and freeze functions, but the phone is fine as is and most stuff backs up via Google or cloud now well enough.
The stock experience is clean; I use Nova Launcher BTW and it plays nice.
If you do root, Magisk can get most apps past safety net checks but one thing that has no solution is the streaming app DRM check; if you unlock bootloader to root, you drop from L1 and HD capable to L3 low res streaming. May not matter for you. Some people report this is reversible (relock bootloader, get L1 back) but others don't get it back.
ROM wise, I believe no ROM supports the in display fingerprint reader yet, so that's a drawback if you leave the stock or rooted nearly stock world.
Seriously get a 6T from OnePlus, try it out. You may find that everything is fine stock out of the box.
Good luck!
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I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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If I was going to use the tablet myself, I'd certainly flash a custom ROM and get root access. But for a 12yr old girl, I'd stay with stock and know she'd be getting the latest security updates. It's not like this was an 8 or 16gb tablet where getting rid of bloatware would be a major concern. It has plenty of storage and RAM to handle that. Just my two bits.
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
ExTall said:
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
miangelgabriel said:
Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I can't really say as I installed package disabler pro when I first had the tablet as I hate apps like bixby.
My tablet has always seemed plenty fast to me
Regards Extall
Not much bloatware on One UI.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I have read books with $29 dollar chinese knockoffs. How long does it take to turn a page? My very first tablet had an Antutu of about 900. This one about 185,000. I was still able to "surf the net" with that first one. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beginning to doubt that. I think it is in the MIND of the beholder. How anyone can consider this tablet slow for surfing or social networking, just blows my mind. "OH, but my latest and greatest iPad is just SOOO much better."
I can't remember having an Android device since my OG Droid that I didn't root and flash. I'm going to skip that for this S5e, for the first time. Everything I do with it these days, my head isn't bumping into it's 'ceiling', so to speak. My SM-T580 was a different story (thank goodness for @followmsi and @srgrussso among others), and custom paid off very well.
Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.:laugh: :highfive:
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I have the Verizon LTE version and even with the Verizon preinstalled apps it doesn't take up a lot of space. I have the 64GB version and I had PLENTY of space for all of my apps. I put a 512GB microSD card in it so I don't have any space issues.
I rooted the SM-T725 few months ago when i got it but this was the 3rd time i had problems booting up and the twrp backup didn't work this time so i just cleaned it and i use stock now and i removed bloatware with ADB. I use only open source software no more google. But that just my way, if you want to root go with it but if its just to remove bloatware just use ADB.
Android 10 coming this june/july and probably android 11 will come to this tablet too because samsung does 2 major android updates to the device they release. If they don't you can unlock the bootloader and install android 11 in the future if a developer make it of course but i doubt it because galaxy tab s6 lite is coming soon so i don't know the future of this tablet.
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OhioYJ said:
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded.
But on TWRP's site it says you have to root before installing a "rooted TWRP" image?
What's with this?
Not asking for a full tutorial but seriously TWRP can't just be flashed in Odin then vbmeta multi-
disabler, WIPE, then flash ROM + Magisk?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. My posts elsewhere are days old & no replies....
zach
I just got this tablet yesterday. I've had several previous Android tablets and phones and I've always rooted them. So far, I haven't run into anything that makes me want to root this one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is a battery protection setting that allows you to limit charging to 85%. Normally, you have too root to do that. I may find a need to root somewhere down the road, but right now I'm hoping to get by with stock and unroofed.
Can you keep dex on other ROMs?
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded
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I've done it a few times and I would recommend following the maintainers instructions, LuK1337's Instructions . Dont skip anything, dont add anything, dont wipe anything that isnt listed, follow them exactly.
This tablet is picky. Magisk can be flashed in TWRP, but from what Ive found many modules can't, they will make the tablet fail to boot. Most modules can only be flashed in Magisk. My recommendation would be to get it booting before adding modules or even Magisk for that matter.
I'm using mine as stock, and this seems plenty fast for the 2 weeks I've owned it. Slow to read books? That sounds like an app problem - moon reader on a 2018 Fire HD 8 didn't have a problem reading books. How slow is the Fire 8? If I was in plex, hit the home button, and started netflix it was about 10 seconds from the press of the home button until netflix was responsive.
Besides, do you really want to have to fix your kid's devices when they inevitably have a problem?
**Edit** I also have a question. Are there any security issues when flashing roms or rooting on this like with the phones with KNoX and not being able to use secure folder and such? Im guessing if I flash a ROM I'd also be losing access to this right? (samsung apps and secure folder) Thank you!
Ughh Im kind of regretting buying this tablet now..did I make a mistake? From what Ive seen on here, it sounds like its best not to root it. Ive found that on some newer devices, irts best not to root them to avoid unnecessary problems because some just dont work well with root and magisk, especially if a lot of the modules arent going to work. I mean I dont really have any reason to root this except for not being able to use / change the themes. I cant believe they dont have the theme store on this tablet! I'm so bummed thats one of the good things about samsung phone that I miss.
I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Hello there,
Long time HTC use myself since the beginning (G1 days)
I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device which absolutely ticks single box, plus it looks slightly funky too which as an ex HTC owner I really like that.
TWRP actually is not needed at all.
Magisk ROMs install using magisk, AOSP, PA, pixel ROMs all install using a bat file inst adb / fastboot, to rescue you can do several things.
For magisk ROMs that fail simply boot to safe mode then reboot and they'll be deactivated.
For custom ROM recovery you have several choices, the main one is the MSM tool which is an official OnePlus deployment / maintenance tool that can return you to stock in a few minutes, the other would be to extract the payload.bin of a firmware (the ROM part) then use the installer bat you used to install the custom ROM.
Kernels can be installed using a kernel manager like ex kernel manager so no worries there.
As for a functional TWRP. If you remain on Android 10 then you have it. 11 is currently being worked on and is making great strides from some talented Devs.
In all it's a good situation, the phone is brilliant; no two ways about it, the community is thriving and when you notice it go quiet it's usually because everything for everyone is working perfectly, I personally couldn't go back to HTC now unless they dropped a true beast of a phone.
The only gripe I have about the whole device and development community is the camera on custom ROMs, it's GCam or third party software which for most is ok. But I missed the stability of OOS and using all four cameras.
That being said there more than enough to keep you occupied and flashing the best ROMs you'll find on XDA, that will only continue and get stronger.
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I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device...
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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Yea my thoughts exactly, initially I wanted to root and go a bit nuts but the stock OS is actually really well made, I use CPL launcher to give me the extra options visually.
I turn off zram and make a few CPU / GPU tweaks in ex manager but beyond that I don't need anything else.
If you can't be bothered debloating or you want mods with the stock OOS then choose xXx or R-Ice.
Again there will be more.
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
reilus said:
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
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Is there an 8T pro?
The 9 pro should be a beast but....
Not sure where they can go in regards to innovation but they're on a particular path now, but the size can't be bigger, it's already IP certified and has wireless charging, RAM is maxed out.
I think the major changes are going to be the battery, maybe the cameras (again), possibly audio and hopefully efficiency.
Maybe a more dedicated gaming mode or some aftermarket peripherals like the ROG and razor.
Time will tell but I like the formula they have with the 8 pro, the build quality is superb.
Perhaps the screen will be upgraded too.
The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
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The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
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Yep that's kind of what I was saying.. (well I wasn't far off) same size, camera upgrade, no word on gaming but I like the direction they were going with that, other things like wireless charging and IP have been done and as such they're staying, no word on audio but hopefully they do bump that up.
I think Moore's law is finally dying on mobile chips the 865 and coupled adreno in the 8 pro are stupendous chips, the games that it's capable of running beats the Shields Nvidia chip which is considerable when you think about it and unless the 888 doubles up, it's an evolution rather than revolutionary chip In comparison.
I'm not sure I'd bother getting the 9 or 9 pro, I don't see the upgrade worth it. If I was on a 6 or maybe a 7 pro then perhaps but the 8 pro for the first time in my android life actually is going to last it's contract duration due to it being such a strong phone, unless maybe you've got screen issues.
Unless they add aperture control to the camera
U never know
Was a HTC fun. Awesome phones, but soft upgrades suck.
I recomend 8 Pro. Now you can buy it cheap from online sales forums. I pay 570 euro for just the phone (like new). I already have warp charger and cables. 8/128 gb new cost 900 euro.
Unfortunately 9 pro will not be much of a difference. "Leaks" SD 888, some camera updates, 65w warp charge. Wireless still 30w. Still Great. I use it. It's awesome.
512gb memory it will hurt the price bad.
My hope was that they give us a square flat screen with no creap front camera.
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
I did not try to root on Android 11. So i rollback to Android 10 (some months ago)
My safe instalation: i was on Android 11, i go back (rollback zip) to Android 10.
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Then use dladz guide to root :
(GUIDE) Unlocking bootloader, Rooting - from start to finish UPDATED.
Hi all, Have looked around the guides and such on these threads for the Oneplus 8 Pro and haven't found a full comprehensive guide outlining all parts of the bootloader unlocking and root process, so thought I'd put together my experience for...
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Steps to upgrade and keep root:
1- Uninstall ALL Magisk modules (if you have any). Reboot to System.
2- install Oos stable or open beta with Settings > Local upgrade . DON'T reboot!!!
3- Open Magisk > Install. Choose (Install to inactive slot after' OTA). DON'T reboot !!!
4- Back in Magisk > Install > Direct install.
5- Reboot to system.
Now you are on the latest version of Android and root.
PieceKeepr said:
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
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As @null0seven said there's a few, the bootloader one is one of mine.
I have a payload dumper thread in guides, it outlines all the methods to root, the one Null has mentioned is the bootloader unlock although the root method is a little dated now. Probably best to stick with booting rather than flashing patched images.
There's two slots on the OnePlus 8 Pro.
A and B
They can carry different images independently, although only one can be used at a time.
Give the booting a patched image of the guide a look at it's the easiest.
When it comes to updating simply remove active magisk modules, take the update but don't reboot or the update will replace the patched boot image.
Whilst in the above state magisk has the ability to patch on the fly, this is due to the update alternating boot image slots.
So the method of root when taking an OTA (which must be full btw) is to take the update then without rebooting, open magisk and flash to open slot, then simply reboot and you're back in the new OS with root and all your data/apps and storage has been retained as you left it.
All this is outlined in the guide.
If you get stuck let me know or just pop a question in there, either myself or someone else will help you. But the guides should be though, plus nearly every scenario has played out in there so check search too.
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
PieceKeepr said:
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
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No worries man.
It's really easy tbh.
My advice is make friends with payload dumper and oxygen updater, always use the beta version of magisk, just change the channel to beta then update.
Beyond that it's a doddle.
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
PieceKeepr said:
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
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you're very welcome mate, glad you're sorted.
So what i would do is one of two things. You can either uninstall the apps using ADB or you can freeze them, tbh freezing has been spot on for me.
I've nuked with ADB the ones i really hate.
OR NoLimits xXx has a great debloater tool.
System doesn't have access anymore unless it's unmounted i believe, so magisk can obtain access (i could be wrong there but i think that's how it is able to make changes there)
Heres a great guide on the adb uninstall process: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If theres an app you want to get rid of just google search it and go from there.
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Great Buy! Enjoy a OnePlus classic device...
Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
dladz said:
Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
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Private Seller, met on offer up so everything was cash. Original box and charger. And Day 1 screen protector on the front(so no scratches I can see for now both front and back). Bezel has the most wear. Paint chip on top right and tiny paint wear from repeated probing of the sim car slot hole. Overall I feel like it's a good buy for the price I got it at