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[Q] How long do u need 2 change ur rom?

Hi all,
i love this forum so much. thx for that!
When i change my rom i allways do:
download the rom
titanium backup
charging phone to 100%
cwm backup
data wipe
cache wipe
install the rom
dalvik wipe
adding my wifi
adding my google-acc
downloading about 20 apps
restore the userdata with titanium backup
adjust homescreens
changing a lot of settings (for example im very tired for setting allways my auto-brightness-levels. Can i export and import?)
i need about 7h to have everything that way i like it. how long do you need? and have you some tricks to fasten it up?
thx
greets
haxn
PS: im using "ILWT CM7 333" rom. it is awesome!

Most times, backup rom (2-10mins), full wipe, flash, use... Add Titanium sometimes, but I prefer to redownload everything. So something like 15 mins. Also because I change rom frequently, when I decide to keep a rom, I may add some more wipes and sometimes kernels and optimizations (swap, ViperMod, supercharger (just found) or similar...), but most of the times they work right without anything
sorry didn't see you meant also settings and downloading apps, 1 hour so.

7 hours? Jesus!
I can do it all in an hour or 2. To be fair, I'd say 2 hours, as its easy to put the phone down and doing something else while waiting for a task to get done (like CWM backup or Titanium), then forgetting about it for a while.
Of course, how low your battery is will affect the charging step, but at most that's an additional hour.
I can't imagine it taking more than a couple hours, much less the other choices on your poll.

7 hours, the hell man. That's quite a lot. I can do it in an hour clean. But I suppose it all depends on how you use your phone...
I just wipe, flash and then install a couple of apps. I use yahoo mail and it handles all my other mail accounts as well, so that's a quick and dirty cheat as all you need to do is install the app and sign in and boom all your mail is back and all your mail accounts are configured
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It only takes about an hour. I do a nandroid backup, titanium, call log, and sms. That's like ten or fifteen minutes. Then I flash the new rom. Install gapps connect to wifi and download titanium again. That only takes ten minutes. The only thing that takes long is restoring apps. I use go launcher on most roms so I just keep the same home screens and settings. I don't see what could take seven hours...
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do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
maybe 7h is too much, mostly im doing this while watching tv, etc. maybe im not that focused. =)
but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
and the poll... its just for fun. =)

Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25% after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that. Oh, and I would say two hours max.

deliriousDroid said:
after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that.
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No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.

redpoint73 said:
No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.
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Okay, well I'm not going to argue that since its official, but as I honestly find it makes a difference i will continue to do it

deliriousDroid said:
Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25%
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Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.

redpoint73 said:
Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.
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Good point, but I like to live life on the edge

Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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haxn2 said:
do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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haxn2 said:
but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.

another thing to note on battery draining. With the current generation of batteries, it's actually not a good thing to drain it to 1%. It does more damage than anything else. Older gen batteries require that you drain it then charge it up to full again for a few cycles, but that's because of the memory effect.
By draining your battery to 1% you're starving the battery and doing nothing but damaging the battery's capacity. our batteries usually prefer a 20-45% level over anything else.

redpoint73 said:
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.
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So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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DAMN! i wanted to post this reply, but i closed the tab. i hate chrome! DAMN!
now the short version:
redpoint73 said:
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours?
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i wanted to change it too. bu i cant change it. only mods. i dont want to annoy them with that.
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
i think i want too much a custom custom rom. its wierd.
and now a big noob question:
how can you sync your apps with google? i cant find this.
best wishes
haxn
ps: sorry for the short replay. the first time i wrote nicer and longer..

mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market?
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Nope. They should just start synching automagically once you go through the setup wizard (first time you boot the phone after the flash) and enter your Google login. Of course, only for Market apps, not apps obtained from other sources.
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haxn2 said:
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
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I wasn't clear on what you were talking about with auto brightness before. I thought you meant just changing the % brightness in settings. Is the auto brightness you mention an app, or a CM7 hack (I haven't messed with CM in a long time). If its an app (and there are some auto brightness apps), you can try to restore app data using Titanium instead of re-entering manually.
Which launcher are you using? If its ADW, you have the option in app to backup the home screen configuration. When you restore, it doesn't come back perfect (some widgets always get messed up for me). But it gets you 80% there and saves a bunch of time. I assume Launcher Pro and other 3rd party launchers has similar functionality. Not sure if you can do similar on the stock launcher (maybe using Titanium?)

auto brightness:
yes it is cm7-stuff. i want my screen a bit darker to improve my batterylife.
launcher:
i use go launcher. there is a save and restore function. but some things go wrong.
and again:
and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?

haxn2 said:
and again:
and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?
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If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.

IIRC the free version of TB requires you to hit install for each app while the paid version does it in one batch.
mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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redpoint73 said:
If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.
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Jinxed myself. The above has always worked for me, over various different ROMs (CM7, VIrtuous "regular", Affinity, Unity, RCMix, MIUI). I just flashed InsertCoin last night, and none of my apps were automatically synched when I started the phone up. In Market, only my paid apps showed up, and I had to install them manually one by one.
Searching around a bit on here, it seems the auto-sync function is a bit hit-or-miss. One person claims it mostly only works on AOSP ROMs, but this is clearly not the case in my experience.

[GT-N5100]4.4.2 Kitkat Changes and Bugs!

Hello everyone! Today I will give you the changes of Android 4.4.2 Kitkat on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 GT-N5100
So first of all, after flashing the update or updating via OTA you notice White Status Bar Icons and the UI is a bit darker.
The Multi Window lines are smoother and instead of having an arrow on the screen, you just swipe your finger from the right.
Toast messages also were changed. The "Recent Apps"(Long Press Home Button) Words are now bigger.There is also a new thing in "About Device" its called "SE for Android Status" and by default its "Enforcing".
The icons of some system apps also changed. The icons in the Settings also changed.
Instead of a Binary Counter which can be reset, we now have a Knox Counter which cannot.
Our Task Manager also changed, and UI Improvements. Driving Mode turned into "Hands-Free Mode".
There are also Battery Life Imrpovements, Performance Improvements and GPS turned into Location.
You can also record your screen without an app or root! Just use a PC via USB Cable. (No instructions sorry, this is just a changelog sort of thing.)
Accessibility issue fixed.
A few keyboard improvements, new S Note,a few bug fixes and when turn off and on your phone, theres a new effect!
When using a screen recorder you will get Internal Audio Recording.
New Setting! Its called "Default Applications" Below "Applications"
We also have new apps! (Music Hub,Video Hub, etc.)
BUGS:
-Reading Mode in Auto Brightness is dark.
-While updating to 4.4.2 all the apps in External SD are going to Force Close
-Sometimes while charging instead of the real percent of how much battery you have, it turns it into 100% (e.g. you have 82% and then suddenly its 100%)
-On some apps the new KitKat toast message is reverted back to the old Jellybean Toast Message.
a_sh_ said:
Another bug - OS crashes and force reboots when you press alt+tab on external bluetooth keyboard (seems like they have removed alternative "recents" panel). Also the layouts for external kbs are wrong - numbers row, for example, in Russian actually follows English standards (so you cannot get " of : symbols for example).
Had to switch to cm11 with less efficient and stable multiwindow solutions (xfloatingwindow + multiwindowsidebar)
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What is SE for Android?
SE for Android is really a form of SELinux which enables administrators to control what other users can and cannot do with their account. History of SELinux, it was originally used by the Department of Defense to manage which users could access certain parts of the system. We didn't want someone without the proper clearance to have access to the same systems that control our missile defense system.
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Thanks Mattix724!
If I theres a missing feature/bug please post a comment down below to inform me.
Sorry guys I got no screenshots again. I dont know how to.
Wanna update? Go to my post!

Could you please confirm changes in reading mode described http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52931029?

hhrun88 said:
Could you please confirm changes in reading mode described http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52931029?
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I'm on Civz 4.4.2 rom and Reading Mode still working for me, but when using auto brightness it is definitely much darker than before with 4.2.2. So I just untick auto brightness and adjust manually when using reading mode now. When I'm done I turn auto-brightness back on and turn off reading mode. Hope this helps.

4.2.2 auto brightness was to dark for my taste, I haven't looked yet but did the magazine ui make?
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There are now two binary counters, one for how many times the device has been flashed using Odin which can be reset using Triangle Away and Knox to indicate the device has been flashed at least once with unofficial firmware. Knox cannot be reset even if you flash the original firmware.
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SE for Android is really a form of SELinux which enables administrators to control what other users can and cannot do with their account. History of SELinux, it was originally used by the Department of Defense to manage which users could access certain parts of the system. We didn't want someone without the proper clearance to have access to the same systems that control our missile defense system.
Do we really need SELinux for Android? In my opinion no, but for example Android is being used for educational purposes currently because it is much cheaper than buying hundreds of desktop computers that run Windows. In this situation you would need SELinux to manage what a student does or does not have access to. There are now apps for teachers and administrators to change these permissions on the fly and to launch a program on all devices at once.
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Thread Update
You cannot reset the Knox Counter, thanks for telling me!

Added bugs! Can anyone tell mw how to edit the name of the thread?

Is there anything worth to upgrade to KK?
As far as I read, there are some new problems and limitation(for example SD operations), and nothing new (except UI which is doesn't matter for me).
Are there real new features?

LomDiV said:
Is there anything worth to upgrade to KK?
As far as I read, there are some new problems and limitation(for example SD operations), and nothing new (except UI which is doesn't matter for me).
Are there real new features?
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S Note updated to SDK 3 and turning on/off effect changed, also performance and battery improvements

John Shenon Uy said:
S Note updated to SDK 3 and turning on/off effect changed, also performance and battery improvements
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Thank you for answer.
It looks like nothing usefull for me.
I'm completely satisfied with "performance and battery" on 4.2.2.
On the other hand I'm using SD a lot.
I'll keep 4.2.2 because I don't see any advantage of 4.4.2

LomDiV said:
Is there anything worth to upgrade to KK?
As far as I read, there are some new problems and limitation(for example SD operations), and nothing new (except UI which is doesn't matter for me).
Are there real new features?
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CivZ rom fixed the sd card issue, and battery life has improved with4.4.2.

sefrcoko said:
CivZ rom fixed the sd card issue, and battery life has improved with4.4.2.
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Thank you, but as I said I'm completely satisfied with "performance and battery" on 4.2.2. .
That is mean after upgrage, root and rom change I'll get the same as I have now.

LomDiV said:
Thank you, but as I said I'm completely satisfied with "performance and battery" on 4.2.2. .
That is mean after upgrage, root and rom change I'll get the same as I have now.
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Personal choice after all . Just letting you know what some of the improvements are.

sefrcoko said:
Personal choice after all . Just letting you know what some of the improvements are.
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Any app out there that can fix it? (With root or without root)

John Shenon Uy said:
Any app out there that can fix it? (With root or without root)
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There are many apps that can help the performance and battery life of this device with and without root. Obviously having root will allow certain apps to get down to the system level to make tweaks and changes to the way the system works and how it handles every day operations.
Some of my recommended apps that require root are...
SetCPU - The name says it all, it allows you to change to minimum and maximum clock speeds of the CPU. I leave the minimum at 200Mhz and the maximum at 1000Mhz which I could honestly get by with only 800Mhz since this has 4 cores.
Greenify - This app will allow you to "Greenify" any app that you do not need running in the background at all times. Similar to freezing an app but it can be launched at any time without defrosting. The app will hibernate again when you are not using it.
Xposed Framework - This will allow you to make changes/tweaks to your current setup without actually making any permanent changes. Modules can be enabled and disabled on the fly, simply toggle and reboot and the change is effective immediately. There are hundreds of modules for different things, some may do the same and more than others. Play with them, tweak to your liking. You can't mess anything up using Xposed.
Viper4Android - The best audio engine that I've ever used on any Android device. Want a simple equalizer this is the app for you, want a more complex audio engine this is also the app for you.
Titanium Backup - The number one backup/restore application on the market. Backup your apps and app data before flashing a new rom, restore after flashing. This allows you to save your current data while allowing you to perform a factory reset and doing a clean flash of the new rom to prevent any possible bugs due to old conflicting system data.
Triangle Away - Flash new firmware often? Want to clear your counter? This is a must have app from the great developer Chainfire and it is constantly updated when it needs to be updated.
Mobile Odin - Another must have app if you are flashing anything on your device when using a PC for Odin is just not an option. Flash kernels, recoveries, entire systems. Root the new system during the flashing process, wipe the cache, etc.
Root Explorer - Simply the best root file manager available for Android devices.
Busybox by stericson - If you're rooted you will need the latest busybox for your system.
I can name many more essential root applications but these are among my top must have apps for every rom I use.
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S Note hasnt changed for me.....is the same SNote I had in 4.2.2
How did you do to update it?

titotito1983 said:
S Note hasnt changed for me.....is the same SNote I had in 4.2.2
How did you do to update it?
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S Note Updated, try to take a screenshot using S Pen

[Q] KNOX Warraty Void
Hi guys!
I have one trouble, my N5100 has one Knox warraty void. How to reset it?

You forgot the s-pen offset (inaccuracy) it is like 2 mm from the point. Thanks!!!
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UltramanKing said:
Hi guys!
I have one trouble, my N5100 has one Knox warraty void. How to reset it?
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Until now you can not... This flag (i will remain at 1 once triggered) appear when you put a custom recovery, kernel or you root your device via CFAutoRoot.
More info at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
Regards.

Lollipop:rapid battery drain.

After upgrade to 5.1,there are some serious issues .Whenever the tablet is woke,it heats up almost instantly,even if its simply left with the screen-on.This causes rapid battery drain.I think the processor runs at its peak state,all the time during screen-on.I find many users complaining about the same.So,if anyone has a solution, please be generous enough to share-possibly without rooting.

Nandroid7736 said:
After upgrade to 5.1,there are some serious issues .Whenever the tablet is woke,it heats up almost instantly,even if its simply left with the screen-on.This causes rapid battery drain.I think the processor runs at its peak state,all the time during screen-on.I find many users complaining about the same.So,if anyone has a solution, please be generous enough to share-possibly without rooting.
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I didn't get the heating or battery drain but every time I rebooted the tablet it would optimize all the apps. A factory reset solved the problem.
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factory reset solved only the problems for a few days now weeks later the tablet still is not function normal.. heats up quick, seems to have cpu at 100% almost nonstop because of the nvidia tegra services running in the background stealing 30-60% cpu and makes the cpu go 100% full alltime thats what causing lag and heat problems for me so many weeks and because of this i barely use it so frustrating and nvidia dont even seem to care - posted on their geforce forums but not a word response month later fking clowns!

I found a fix for lollipop issues

oppodi said:
I found a fix for lollipop issues
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and i found a way to be a millionaire..............................just kidding :silly:
could you pls share some more details here?

Things needed , twrp recovery
Greenify donation
First go to recovery advanced wipe and wipe cache and dalkvik cache
Reboot
Go to greenify experimental features and select greenifying system services
Add nvidia tetra services and hibernate
Remove SD card try not to use it
The problems are fixed
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oppodi said:
Things needed , twrp recovery
Greenify donation
First go to recovery advanced wipe and wipe cache and dalkvik cache
Reboot
Go to greenify experimental features and select greenifying system services
Add nvidia tetra services and hibernate
Remove SD card try not to use it
The problems are fixed
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Hit thanks if works

Mine was overheating too. Now it's good.
In my case turning all apps configuration to optimised for nvidia worked.
To do that you need to download activity launcher app from play store then install it.
In the app press all then go to settings. Look for "SETTINGS com.android.settings.NvControlPanel" (If you hold you will be able to create a shortcut on home screen). Then in APPS tab press optimise all. From now all previously installed apps will be optimised and will not run at Max performance mode. New apps need to be optimised after installation.

Can someone look in their /lbh partition at the prop file in there trying to see if one can bypass Advents servers for OTA updates as it seems Advent servers do not have the 3.0 update. Thanks in advance

Not seen the overheating described, but I was seeing very fast battery drain on standby (25% overnight!). The main culprit turned out to be the Photos app - it wasn't syncing anything, but google services were using 40ish% battery and Photos another 20%. Since removing Photos and disabling unused google stuff (hangouts, google+ etc) standby is back to kitkat levels (2-3% overnight).

Is there a guide somewhere to fix the massive battery drain, in standby/hibernate that I have now after I upgraded to Lollipop? Just some settings or something easy to install? What's this Activity Launcher App then?

iMaterial said:
Is there a guide somewhere to fix the massive battery drain, in standby/hibernate that I have now after I upgraded to Lollipop? Just some settings or something easy to install? What's this Activity Launcher App then?
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Read my this thread about activity launcher and power management in lollipop (No root)
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Joying Intel Head Unit Android 6 Update

Android 6 update is available below...
PLEASE NOTE: This is a one way street, no downgrading to android 5.
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
Jeep and TL123 (toyota) model are the only ones which use the low resolution ROM
Considering this was released today please be careful what risk you are taking.
I will be doing some tests and will report if I find any issue.. please send your bug reports to carjoying so they can be fixed.
Also we need an INTEL subcategory in the forum under Android Auto
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Passwords:
3368 for settings
8086 launchers
5768 menu backlight
Root and debug on
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72057022&postcount=12
- method 2 still work for root and SU
Google voice response works without hacking.
audio_policy.conf now supports usb dacs without modification
TomTom GO works without risky bootloader mod.
Viper4Android installs correctly
-with removal of deep buffer section in /system/etc/audio_policy.conf as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72060811&postcount=35
- https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72064749&postcount=41
The pull down white text color issue is fixed with play music and other apps
New Recovery
If you need to RE-FLASH the 6.0 firmware, you MUST rename 5009_20.zip to 5009_60.zip , otherwise the firmware will throw an error! yay! I just tested it and it WORKS!
Enable wireless adb https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71616884&postcount=273
Enable split screen settings in debugging mode then you can split the screens from the task manager (post #84 & #103)
updated "no-kill" https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72102580&postcount=87
task killer removed and will call the google voice search from the 'SRC' button https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72153510&postcount=159
ADB enable easier way post #160: in the downloaded ROM zip,
"config.txt" inside the root firmware directory , just add "service.adb.tcp.port=5555" to the last line.
Spotify notifications work
google from any screen by velvet apk post #206 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72179874&postcount=206
the CPU works a lot nicer, spending a lot of time at lower freqs when power is not needed
.when you get out of sleep the selected apps are no longer in split screen
you can't read the PMIC temperature anymore
when you set the DPI to 240 the upper bar gets huge and the apps still don't scale well
the bar gets white on Deezer, annoying at night,ugly looking (bug) picture attached
the iGO/Waze bug that makes the unit sleep after 5 minutes (instead of the normal 1 minute) from the moment the engine is off is still present. drawing .01-.05amp for that 5min.
MAY 8 2017 UPDATE
BUG Fixes , Bluetooth Issues solved and working well
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Steering wheel key customization
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-units/joying-2gb-steering-wheel-key-t3543390
Tips and Tricks link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...roll-joying-2gb-sofia-mtcb-mtcd-tips-t3555249

tomtom go
doctorman said:
Android 6 update is available below...
PLEASE NOTE: This is a one way street, no downgrading to android 5.
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
Considering this was released today please be careful what risk you are taking.
I will be doing some tests and will report if I find any issue.. please send your bug reports to carjoying so they can be fixed.
Also we need an INTEL subcategory in the forum under Android Auto
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It works tomtom go?

Again no detailed change log. Incredible.

I'd keep away until a few people have tried this.....

Beta release? Don't think I'd risk this on the head unit and end up without a working unit until they actually fix it.... "Fix some bugs" seems to be the extent of most of their change logs... hehe

someone guinea pig it

Looking forward to someone having the balls to flash this.
As a side note...why is everyone so excited about Android 6 on this unit...I don't see any features that would even make me update.

CadillacMike said:
someone guinea pig it
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Install went very quick, it wipes all applications and data.
I have not yet been able to access via wifi / ADB, so no rooting or mods as of now
> adb connect 10.0.0.26
unable to connect to 10.0.0.26:5555: Connection refused

gustden said:
Install went very quick, it wipes all applications and data.
I have not yet been able to access via wifi / ADB, so no rooting or mods as of now
> adb connect 10.0.0.26
unable to connect to 10.0.0.26:5555: Connection refused
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That would be simply terrible if it can't be bypassed.

CadillacMike said:
someone guinea pig it
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doitright4 said:
Since it wiped everything, did you remember to enable usb debugging? (which really means adbd)
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KamaL said:
That would be simply terrible if it can't be bypassed.
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USB debugging was enabled.
It looks like they missed persist.adb.tcp.port=5555 in the properties. It can be enabled by the following:
1) download a terminal program ( Terminal Emulator for Android )
2) enter the following command: setprop persist.adb.tcp.port 5555
3) reboot
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working

doitright4 said:
That's a great point, and it is really... sad? stupid? FREAKING RETARDED!!!! that they would bother wasting time to build 6.0 so long after 7.0 (and 7.1 even!!!) are already available.
7.x of course, adds in split screen mode, which would be a GREAT benefit to car radios.
There is one thing, however, that could make the 6.0 build good, especially an early or beta build... they've had less time to destroy it than they've had to destroy 5.x. So its probably a faster, more stable, and more respectful build than what we've previously seen.
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Yeah split screen might be useful...otherwise it just runs navigation/music/videos in cars mostly...which any version of Android can do.

mirror up for 1024x600 version:
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gustden said:
USB debugging was enabled.
It looks like they missed persist.adb.tcp.port=5555 in the properties. It can be enabled by the following:
1) download a terminal program ( Terminal Emulator for Android )
2) enter the following command: setprop persist.adb.tcp.port 5555
3) reboot
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working
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Great to hear that.
Are there any noticeable changes so far?

So how's the update?
Is it faster/slower than android 5?
Did you find some bugs?

@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present

bogdi1988 said:
@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present
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All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.

gustden said:
All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.
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Thanks! I'd love to see an updated Server with the standby-kill removed, the source button -> google search hack and the mute-alarms feature removed so we can have the voice output for Google searches - if possible please?

gustden said:
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working
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Way to go man !
Thank you !
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@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present
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Good point ! It would be nice to be able to use the mods from 5.0.1 ... or at least some of them....
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gustden said:
All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.
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Is the notifications bar still broken ? (white text and buttions on white bar)

And the most important question, any changes regarding the Bluetooth module? Does it still cover the screen during calls without the ability to minimize?

KamaL said:
And the most important question, any changes regarding the Bluetooth module? Does it still cover the screen during calls without the ability to minimize?
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Based on what @gustden said, it looks like all the apps are the same so I would assume that issue is still present.

How to disable/adjust the background task limit?

My background with android is long and rocky.
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, I had a Samsung Galaxy S, then a S2.
I can remember a Google Nexus phone in there somewhere.
Then at some point I switched over to Windows Mobile for many years.
A couple of hears ago I came back to android with a Samsung Galaxy S8+ and I hated it.
Recently I upgraded to a OnePlus 6T McLaren and here I am.
I had been expecting to see android happily use up 7, 8 or even 9GB of ram before the background task manager would begin to kill tasks.
Except that I seldom saw android use much more than 5GB of ram.
And worse, background tasks were being killed on a regular basis.
Widgets would stop working overnight, or even in just a few hours.
Spotify would close while a playing a playlist.
A quick search on XDA reveals that many users believe that Android will just use up as much ram as your phone has.
However, that is simply not true.
And so, I began my quest to have Android use as much ram as the phone could provide.
In my case, 10GB.
- I understand that there is an inherent trade-off between keeping background apps running and battery usage. I can live with extra battery usage in exchange for keeping my widgets running or Spotify running for an entire playlist.
- I realized very quickly that in order to achieve the results that I was looking for that the phone would have to be rooted. So rooting was one of the first things that I did.
Step 1.
I started with the basic stuff that a quick google search would provide;
- Settings -> Battery -> Battery Saver (off)
- Settings -> Battery -> Adaptive Battery (off)
- Settings -> Battery -> Battery Optimization -> widget app (don’t optimize)
- Settings -> Battery -> Battery Optimization -> Spotify (don’t optimize)
- Settings -> Battery -> Battery Optimization -> Advanced Optimization -> Deep Optimization (off)
- Settings -> Battery -> Battery Optimization -> Advanced Optimization -> Sleep standby optimization (off)
- Settings -> Apps -> Widget app -> Battery -> Background Restriction (app can use battery in background)
- Settings -> Apps -> Spotify -> Battery -> Background Restriction (app can use battery in background)
This helped but not enough to make the widgets or Spotify usable.
Step 2.
I supposed that my specific background tasks that I wanted to keep running were being killed because of the many other apps that were running in the background.
I searched for and found Tomatot DeBloater scripts for the Oneplus 6.
Excellent! Just what I was looking for.
I chose the Tomatot-Debloater-OOS-Light-2.3.zip and installed it.
This helped some more but not enough to make the widgets or Spotify usable.
Step 3.
I realised that there were still some apps running in the background that I didn’t use or want.
So I used Titanium Backup to freeze the following apps;
- Calendar
- Calendar Storage 9
- Contacts (O+)(I replaced with google contacts)
- Dashboard
- Drive
- Face Unlock
- Gboard
- Gmail
- Google
- Google partner setup 9
- Google play music 8
- McLaren AR
- Messaging (O+)(replaced with google messaging)
- OK google enrollment 9
- Oneplus system 1
- Youtube
Perfect! These apps were no longer competing for phone resources with the apps that I wanted to run.
This helped some more but not enough to make the widgets or Spotify usable.
This did make the phone feel faster and smoother.
The phone is much more responsive and fluid to my input.
This made me realize that the apps were being closed not due to a lack of phone resources, but a background task manager being aggressive.
Presumably for battery saving purposes.
I changed my focus to adjusting that background task manager.
Step 4.
Enable the recent screen ‘LOCK’ on the widget app and Spotify.
This didn’t do anything for me.
Everything that I’ve read on it says that it just stops the task from being killed when you click on kill all tasks.
The lock doesn’t lock the task from being killed by the background task manager.
Step 5.
Further google searching led me to believe that the OEM kernel was limiting background tasks.
I choose ElementalX-OP-3.09 and the EX Kernel Manager.
I had to read a lot of google university material to make any sense of the settings in here.
I’m not sure that I fully understand even now.
Eventually, I ended up with the following settings;
Memory
- Adaptive Low Memory Killer (disabled)
- dirty ratio (20)
- dirty background ratio (5)
- min free kbytes (12398)
- vfs cache pressure (100)
Memory -> Low Memory Killer
- apply on boot
- Foreground app (72mb)
- Visible apps (90mb)
- Secondary server (108mb)
- Hidden apps (200mb)
- Content Providers (587mb)
- Empty apps (783mb)
This helped a lot.
This almost made the phone usable to the state that I wanted.
But the widget and Spotify would still stop running overnight and by morning the apps would have to be reopened to get them to run again.
At least the apps would run most of the day without being killed.
Still not the behaviour that I expected from a phone with 10GB of ram.
Ram usage was still not going much over 5.5Gb even if I opened up many apps at once.
Can I ever get ram usage up to the 10Gb that I have?
Step 6.
The last thing that I tried yesterday afternoon was to increase the background task limit in the build.prop.
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5 (changed it to 60)
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000 (changed it to 10000)
Yes, I know that I am on PIE and there isn’t supposed to be any effect.
No, I don’t know yet if this had any effect.
I am hopeful.
The widget app didn’t close last night, but Spotify did.
I am getting closer!
This is the best that I could do on my own without asking for help.
So here I am posting my question and asking for help.
How do I get the apps that I want to run to not be killed by the background task manager?
OR
How do I get the phone to use the 10GB of ram?
I feel that I am missing something.
With any luck, one of you smarter persons will be able to point it out to me.
As an aside from all of these changes the phone feels very smooth and fluid.
Except for apps closing that I don’t want to, this phone is a great experience and a pleasure to use.
Apps that I want to run are staying open much longer then before I started.
It’s now just an overnight issue.
And getting the phone to use over 6Gb of ram.
I would suggest that I am 90% happy with it now.
KERNAL: ElementalX-OP6-3.10
ROM: STOCK OOS 9.0.11
PHONE MODEL: 6013 O+6T McLaren

Tomorrow I may try making this change to the build.prop file;
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true to false
Don't know if it will help or not.

Wow dude, interesting read, i will sign up for notifications from this thread hoping you get your answer because i have the exact same problem but with my work app, throwing it all out of whack and making me a target to big fines (in the $1,000's) and potentially reducing my marketability!
The attached screenies are from before i realized that the app getting killed in the background is what causes the problem (I've left it in the foreground HOURS a few times and it works perfectly!)

UPDATE:
Good news!
I seem to have solved my issue.
Time will tell for sure though.
But this morning and all day today, Spotify and the widget app have been running without closing.
AND I have seen memory usage up to 6.8GB used.
Here are the further steps that I took;
- ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true (changed it to false)
I didn't really notice much of a change.
But then I noticed that perhaps the limit of 60 tasks was not high enough.
I seem to have that many apps open and limiting to just 60 may be an issue.
- ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=60 (changed it to 120)
THIS!
This seemed to have worked for me.
All apps seem to be open and be staying open.
Today I got a message/warning from android telling me that the widget app is consuming the battery in excess but I ignored the warning and android did not close the app or stop the widget from running.
I will keep an eye on the phone for the next few days to confirm that this actually solved my issues.
My next step will be to see what effect if any this has had on my battery usage.
I am curious to see if it's all that bad...

geeksquad2 said:
UPDATE:
Good news!
I seem to have solved my issue.
Time will tell for sure though.
But this morning and all day today, Spotify and the widget app have been running without closing.
AND I have seen memory usage up to 6.8GB used.
Here are the further steps that I took;
- ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true (changed it to false)
I didn't really notice much of a change.
But then I noticed that perhaps the limit of 60 tasks was not high enough.
I seem to have that many apps open and limiting to just 60 may be an issue.
- ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=60 (changed it to 120)
THIS!
This seemed to have worked for me.
All apps seem to be open and be staying open.
Today I got a message/warning from android telling me that the widget app is consuming the battery in excess but I ignored the warning and android did not close the app or stop the widget from running.
I will keep an eye on the phone for the next few days to confirm that this actually solved my issues.
My next step will be to see what effect if any this has had on my battery usage.
I am curious to see if it's all that bad...
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Nice find, I checked my build.prop and found this. No wonder my apps are killed
Code:
#ifdef VENDOR_EDIT
#[email protected] modify for app memory
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000
#endif/*VENDOR_EDIT*/
EDIT: I see a lot of custom ROM's have "ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=60" to the build prop, I wonder if that going to make a difference

UPDATE:
I am a silly goose.
I broke a cardinal rule while troubleshooting.
I may have had a few too many wobbly pops and made two changes at a time, thus when change was affected, I was unable to determine properly which change caused the affect.
The rule is, "only make one change at a time when testing".
Yes, all of my apps stay open all the time.
I am getting the behaviour that I was looking for.
However it wasn't necessarily changing the build.prop bgservice_limit from 60 to 120 that did it.
Let me back up a bit.
Earlier I had suggested that locking an app to the recent screen didn't do anything for me, and that in my reading it only locks the app from being killed by you when you try to close it manually.
However in reading up on the oneplus framework-res.apk I found a reference to an oneplus whitelist of apps that will never be killed, and a reference to the recent screen app lock that suggests that oneplus will add a locked app to the whitelist and not kill it.
In the course of a single day, I had inadvertently edited the build.prop and locked the widget app to the recent screen thus breaking the one change at a time rule.
So the next morning and the following days when all apps were staying open I attributed it to changing the build.prop not realizing that it could also have been the app lock.
Last night I realized my mistake.
I unlocked the widget app from the recent screen and went to bed.
When I woke up this morning the widget app was not running for the first time in days.
Also the notifications that I was receiving about the widget app consuming excessive battery have stopped.
It would appear that I was wrong in my earlier observations regarding the app lock mechanism.
It appears to be very useful for keeping apps running all the time.
Did changing the build.prop have any affect on keeping apps open?
Maybe?
I have noticed that my battery life has gone for a complete ****.
I can barely get 24 hours out of the phone.
Worse is that it doesn't matter if the screen is on or not, battery usage remains the same.
i.e. with the screen off and the phone put down, battery life appears to be used at the same rate as when the phone is in use.
I had expected the battery life to be not as good, but I didn't expect it to go to for a **** that badly.
There must be a balance between aggressive app management and acceptable battery life.
The phone didn't display this behaviour until I changed ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true to false.
I think that today I will change ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable= back to true and observe the battery tomorrow.

kantjer said:
Nice find, I checked my build.prop and found this. No wonder my apps are killed
Code:
#ifdef VENDOR_EDIT
#[email protected] modify for app memory
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000
#endif/*VENDOR_EDIT*/
EDIT: I see a lot of custom ROM's have "ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=60" to the build prop, I wonder if that going to make a difference
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I think that ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit= and ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit= are essentially the same thing, except for android versions.
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit= is for Android 7: Nougat and below.
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit= is for Android 8: Oreo and above.
Someone more knowledgeable than me should chime in here though.

Do you think any of this could have to do with the way the phone keeps disabling push in Gmail? (Every other day I need to set my O365 exchange in Gmail back to push because it automatically changes to the default of checking every 30 mins.)

Any conclusion?

Did you guys manage to solve this issue please by editing the build prop?

Latest smurf kernel rc14b seems to have solved the RAM management issue. I haven't had any apps closing in background since using it.

thank you for the thread!

What did you find in the end?
How did you set this ?
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000

So what's the verdict on the buildprop edits? Do they make a difference?
I notice that sometimes my on-going weather notification doesn't update, or gets killed off. I also have an app that controls rotation per app, and that also seems to stop doing it's thing after a while.

Just want to share. If you are rooted with Magisk, try appsystemizer module. System apps don't get killed by oneplus as aggressively. Tried it with accubattery and it works.

I am so glad I stumble across this, I just want to say, changing
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5 to 120
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000 to 10000
Keep apps in ram for much longer then original! For me the battery life is unaffected, might even be better.

scloss84 said:
I am so glad I stumble across this, I just want to say, changing
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5 to 120
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000 to 10000
Keep apps in ram for much longer then original! For me the battery life is unaffected, might even be better.
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Also want to solve this issue.
On which OOS Version you are? (i am on 10.3.1)
Does this really work in newer OOS Versions?
I have read elsewhere that those settings dont work on newer versions, sadly, cant find the thread/source.
thx
pOpY

popy2006 said:
Also want to solve this issue.
On which OOS Version you are? (i am on 10.3.1)
Does this really work in newer OOS Versions?
I have read elsewhere that those settings dont work on newer versions, sadly, cant find the thread/source.
thx
pOpY
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I'm actually Oneplus 6, OOS 9.0.9.
I also read that it doesn't work on Android 10 because magisk doesn't mount /system in Android 10, but there is a magisk module workaround that you can use. And hopefully magisk will update in the near future to fix that. Just google "Android 10 can't edit build.prop" and you'll find heaps of info.

This is what I have in my build.prop file and it seems to help. I have Oreo it works great on my phone I don't know about later versions of Oreo.
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_enable=true
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_age=5000
ro.vendor.qti.sys.fw.bservice_limit=5
ro.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=64