[Q] How long do u need 2 change ur rom? - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi all,
i love this forum so much. thx for that!
When i change my rom i allways do:
download the rom
titanium backup
charging phone to 100%
cwm backup
data wipe
cache wipe
install the rom
dalvik wipe
adding my wifi
adding my google-acc
downloading about 20 apps
restore the userdata with titanium backup
adjust homescreens
changing a lot of settings (for example im very tired for setting allways my auto-brightness-levels. Can i export and import?)
i need about 7h to have everything that way i like it. how long do you need? and have you some tricks to fasten it up?
thx
greets
haxn
PS: im using "ILWT CM7 333" rom. it is awesome!

Most times, backup rom (2-10mins), full wipe, flash, use... Add Titanium sometimes, but I prefer to redownload everything. So something like 15 mins. Also because I change rom frequently, when I decide to keep a rom, I may add some more wipes and sometimes kernels and optimizations (swap, ViperMod, supercharger (just found) or similar...), but most of the times they work right without anything
sorry didn't see you meant also settings and downloading apps, 1 hour so.

7 hours? Jesus!
I can do it all in an hour or 2. To be fair, I'd say 2 hours, as its easy to put the phone down and doing something else while waiting for a task to get done (like CWM backup or Titanium), then forgetting about it for a while.
Of course, how low your battery is will affect the charging step, but at most that's an additional hour.
I can't imagine it taking more than a couple hours, much less the other choices on your poll.

7 hours, the hell man. That's quite a lot. I can do it in an hour clean. But I suppose it all depends on how you use your phone...
I just wipe, flash and then install a couple of apps. I use yahoo mail and it handles all my other mail accounts as well, so that's a quick and dirty cheat as all you need to do is install the app and sign in and boom all your mail is back and all your mail accounts are configured
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It only takes about an hour. I do a nandroid backup, titanium, call log, and sms. That's like ten or fifteen minutes. Then I flash the new rom. Install gapps connect to wifi and download titanium again. That only takes ten minutes. The only thing that takes long is restoring apps. I use go launcher on most roms so I just keep the same home screens and settings. I don't see what could take seven hours...
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do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
maybe 7h is too much, mostly im doing this while watching tv, etc. maybe im not that focused. =)
but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
and the poll... its just for fun. =)

Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25% after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that. Oh, and I would say two hours max.

deliriousDroid said:
after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that.
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No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.

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No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.
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Okay, well I'm not going to argue that since its official, but as I honestly find it makes a difference i will continue to do it

deliriousDroid said:
Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25%
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Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.

redpoint73 said:
Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.
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Good point, but I like to live life on the edge

Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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haxn2 said:
do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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haxn2 said:
but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.

another thing to note on battery draining. With the current generation of batteries, it's actually not a good thing to drain it to 1%. It does more damage than anything else. Older gen batteries require that you drain it then charge it up to full again for a few cycles, but that's because of the memory effect.
By draining your battery to 1% you're starving the battery and doing nothing but damaging the battery's capacity. our batteries usually prefer a 20-45% level over anything else.

redpoint73 said:
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.
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So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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DAMN! i wanted to post this reply, but i closed the tab. i hate chrome! DAMN!
now the short version:
redpoint73 said:
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours?
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i wanted to change it too. bu i cant change it. only mods. i dont want to annoy them with that.
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
i think i want too much a custom custom rom. its wierd.
and now a big noob question:
how can you sync your apps with google? i cant find this.
best wishes
haxn
ps: sorry for the short replay. the first time i wrote nicer and longer..

mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market?
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Nope. They should just start synching automagically once you go through the setup wizard (first time you boot the phone after the flash) and enter your Google login. Of course, only for Market apps, not apps obtained from other sources.
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haxn2 said:
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
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I wasn't clear on what you were talking about with auto brightness before. I thought you meant just changing the % brightness in settings. Is the auto brightness you mention an app, or a CM7 hack (I haven't messed with CM in a long time). If its an app (and there are some auto brightness apps), you can try to restore app data using Titanium instead of re-entering manually.
Which launcher are you using? If its ADW, you have the option in app to backup the home screen configuration. When you restore, it doesn't come back perfect (some widgets always get messed up for me). But it gets you 80% there and saves a bunch of time. I assume Launcher Pro and other 3rd party launchers has similar functionality. Not sure if you can do similar on the stock launcher (maybe using Titanium?)

auto brightness:
yes it is cm7-stuff. i want my screen a bit darker to improve my batterylife.
launcher:
i use go launcher. there is a save and restore function. but some things go wrong.
and again:
and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?

haxn2 said:
and again:
and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?
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If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.

IIRC the free version of TB requires you to hit install for each app while the paid version does it in one batch.
mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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redpoint73 said:
If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.
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Jinxed myself. The above has always worked for me, over various different ROMs (CM7, VIrtuous "regular", Affinity, Unity, RCMix, MIUI). I just flashed InsertCoin last night, and none of my apps were automatically synched when I started the phone up. In Market, only my paid apps showed up, and I had to install them manually one by one.
Searching around a bit on here, it seems the auto-sync function is a bit hit-or-miss. One person claims it mostly only works on AOSP ROMs, but this is clearly not the case in my experience.

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Android.process.acore draining EVO battery fast

I've got two HTC Evo's. One lasts for 24+ hours on a single charge, the other lasts 3-4 hours tops. They are both have been running Fresh 0.3 until yesterday. I upgraded one to 0.5 and the other will remain at 0.3 until today. The one still running 0.3 has terrible battery life. I've been running system panel on both and saw that Android.process.acore has kept the CPU ramped up for hours on end, the battery is always 40C+ and when I checked on it this morning it had been streaming 200kbps of data nonstop through the night. There are no market apps installed on this phone except for Advanced Task Killer, GScript Lite, and System Panel. There are no apps installed from untrusted sources.
Anyone know what Android.process.acore does exactly, and why it would be streaming data all night long? System and System Processes also have much higher CPU utilization on this phone as well. I've tried reinstalling Fresh, rebooting the phone, killing absolutely every task ATK will let me, etc and nothing seems to stop the flow of current. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This happened with the stock software as well. One phone always lasted longer than the other. However, I'll let you know if Fresh 0.5 changes anything.
Thanks everyone.
I upgraded 2 days ago. My phone was always stock. Yesterday I took lots of video, like 15 mins or more, and battery, and GPS, and Google sky. A friend of mine invited me to his boat and we were on the river for almost an hour. The battery was still on the green side. I definitely noticed some battery improvement after the software upgrade. When I watched the video on the computer I learned the hard way that there are not vertical HDTVs.
Streaming data all night?
We may just have the first Android Trojan lol.
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ejittles I think what you're seeing is a sync-loop, likely with facebook or exchange. This was supposedly one of the things addressed in the recent OTA update.
Try removing and re-adding any accounts you're synced with, disabling background data, etc.
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ejittles I think what you're seeing is a sync-loop, likely with facebook or exchange. This was supposedly one of the things addressed in the recent OTA update.
Try removing and re-adding any accounts you're synced with, disabling background data, etc.
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Brilliant Scriptx, I'll bet that is exactly what it is. I'm guessing its the exchange server. I will give that a try when I get access to that phone tonight. Will keep you posted. Thanks a ton.
HELLO
scriptx said:
ejittles I think what you're seeing is a sync-loop, likely with facebook or exchange. This was supposedly one of the things addressed in the recent OTA update.
Try removing and re-adding any accounts you're synced with, disabling background data, etc.
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im with Him i also use shortcuts to turn on and off the internet (mobile) and i also use airplane mode when i don't what any one to call me my battery lasted MORE than 19hr and 31 min and i was using it downloding app, giving files, i saw some videos well you know the thing that you do when you brag about your phone. i am in the ARMY, so alot of people were looking at my iphonekiller (EVO) and wile some friends with evo battery already gone.... mine lasted 19:31 y lasted 24 before some sleep XD ( i have no ATK not needed for battery life)
Do you have a lot of contacts? On my Evo I have my personal gmail which only has a few hundred. On my Hero I have my developer account linked up which has thousands. During sync it isn't uncommon to see:
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SyncManager(): canceling and rescheduling sync because it ran too long.
It will do this over and over and over again non-stop until it finally goes through. Secondly as was already mentioned is something like Facebook/Twitter/Friendstream. I personally only have twitter setup (and I use the official Twitter app for that) but again while testing on the Hero I found that the way Friendstream (and possibly facebook overall, and peep too but I'm not sure) gets updates is it checks the current status on EVERY SINGLE contact of yours. This of course is a huge battery drain.
The reason that I make the comparison with the Hero by the way is the software is basically identical. They are definitely forked off the same branch at HTC. So any problems on the Hero are likely the same on the Evo. The reason I don't have answers for you from the Evo side is because I use it as my personal phone and I don't have much on it.
You may also want to see this post: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
There is a chance that your phone keeps killing off background processes while they are trying to do stuff, so then they turn around and run again, then get killed again, and again. Automated task killers are the devil. The only way I recommend using a task killer is the same way you would use task manager or top in linux. Just to kill off the random zombie process that may be causing you issues.
flipzmode said:
You may also want to see this post: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
There is a chance that your phone keeps killing off background processes while they are trying to do stuff, so then they turn around and run again, then get killed again, and again. Automated task killers are the devil. The only way I recommend using a task killer is the same way you would use task manager or top in linux. Just to kill off the random zombie process that may be causing you issues.
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Flipz,
First of all thanks for the great work on Fresh Evo. Secondly, I only use ATK at startup to kill any processes that are set to start on boot that I don't care about. It's not set to autokill or to start automatically. I kill ATK when I kill everything else.
I think it has to be friendstream because I only have a handful of facebook contacts and the other phone has over 300 facebook contacts to deal with. Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I'll have facebook turned off on that phone and see if that makes the difference.
That particular phone is only set to receive email via exchange while mine syncs all of my work stuff via exchange so I don't think that is the problem. That just makes me suspect friendstream even more.
*EDIT* Also, I hope that ATK sends a sigterm to these processes and not a sigkill? Or is that not an option w/ the VM? I'm not too familiar with the internals on android atm. Haven't had time to play with anything due to work.
ejittles said:
I only use ATK at startup to kill any processes that are set to start on boot that I don't care about.
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Do yourself a favor and go grab Autostarts (autostarts not autostart) from the market instead. It will be the best $0.85 you've ever spent on an app. It lets you control every single onEvent trigger in Android, preventing the applications from starting in the first place.
flipzmode said:
Do yourself a favor and go grab Autostarts (autostarts not autostart) from the market instead. It will be the best $0.85 you've ever spent on an app. It lets you control every single onEvent trigger in Android, preventing the applications from starting in the first place.
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haha did you do that conversion for me from EUR to $ or is there a way to set a currency in the market app? Downloading it now. Thank you sir! The Evo has a great community here on XDA and I look forward to contributing when things settle down at work in the next few months.
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haha did you do that conversion for me from EUR to $ or is there a way to set a currency in the market app? Downloading it now. Thank you sir! The Evo has a great community here on XDA and I look forward to contributing when things settle down at work in the next few months.
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I'm just smart. haha j/p. When you actually click on buy in the app it will show you the USD price. That's where I grabbed it from. I did buy it for my Hero over 6 months ago just so I could deconstruct it though and I knew it was under $1. lol
Fresh 0.5.3 and the disabling of friendstream has the second phone performing great. Battery lasts 24+ hours now. I suspect it was friendstream. Thanks for the help.
I had this exact same issue and with system panel's help I was able to determine that Facebook for Sense was causing the problem. I turned off FB's auto-update and the problem went away completely. After the OTA, I am able to turn auto-update back on without issue.

This may help your battery life.

Today I had been experimenting with my battery life again and stumbled across this.
If you download advance task manager from the market. *NOTE* It is a paid application or *NOTE* This is illegal but you can download an .apk but again it is illegal and I am not encouraging you do it. *NOTE* You can purchase it and return it within 24 hours with your money back.
Step 1- Get advance task manager.
Step 2- Go into your home system and go into your default home or your home system.
Step 3- Now choose a screen in the home. Eg: 1,2,3 etc...
Step 4- Keep your finger tap'ed on the empty screen or somewhere empty in the screen. You can also just press the menu button and tap *ADD*.
Step 5- Choose widgets and find advance task manager.
Step 6- Now when you tap the widget icon, it will terminate all your applications.
Step 7- It will then direct you to a choice for your home application/s.
Step 8- You can just press lock and not choose your home and it will stay draining very little battery.
*Note* I do not guarantee this to work but it worked for me since I had my phone on the lock where I had a choice of home screen since 3:00 PM and it is now 6:00 PM...
3 hours and still full battery.
I have also previously managed to keep the battery up for 3 days and in the 3 days I was left with 15 percent battery.
I will post images if you people are having trouble *JUST PM ME OR POST BELOW IF YOU WANT IMAGES*
Appreciate the tip but since the inception of the Android OS this was one of the first and biggest tips amongst all of the community. It's nothing new. The Android OS actually does a damn good job of killing apps by itself. Unused RAM is useless RAM. It's a *nix based system.
The only time where this is good is when you have a stray app that's using CPU when it opens in the background when it shouldn't. Especially when it's keeping things awake. I only advise that you use this before locking the phone intentionally, and when you'd like it to go into a deep sleep.
I use task killers only when I'm putting my phone away for a while. Works better than when I used task killers. I'm also mindful about the apps I install and I uninstall and reinstall when need be, format my phone occasionally (I am an extremely heavy user) and defrag my SD card because of the heavy usage.
bongd said:
Appreciate the tip but since the inception of the Android OS this was one of the first and biggest tips amongst all of the community. It's nothing new. The Android OS actually does a damn good job of killing apps by itself. Unused RAM is useless RAM. It's a *nix based system.
The only time where this is good is when you have a stray app that's using CPU when it opens in the background when it shouldn't. Especially when it's keeping things awake. I only advise that you use this before locking the phone intentionally, and when you'd like it to go into a deep sleep.
I use task killers only when I'm putting my phone away for a while. Works better than when I used task killers. I'm also mindful about the apps I install and I uninstall and reinstall when need be, format my phone occasionally (I am an extremely heavy user) and defrag my SD card because of the heavy usage.
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I agree but this worked for me and I recommend trying this. Also I agree with everything you have said and sometimes when I am out somewhere I tend to keep the phone in a deep sleep but I do not want to miss any calls or texts happening to me so I do this.
Appreciate what you have told me as well.
Also what good does formating do? (NOT SAYING IN AN OFFENSIVE MANNER, I AM JUST CURIOUS)
zm4 said:
I agree but this worked for me and I recommend trying this. Also I agree with everything you have said and sometimes when I am out somewhere I tend to keep the phone in a deep sleep but I do not want to miss any calls or texts happening to me so I do this.
Appreciate what you have told me as well.
Also what good does formating do? (NOT SAYING IN AN OFFENSIVE MANNER, I AM JUST CURIOUS)
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Bongd is absolutely correct in what he says, the whole android system is designed to manage apps automatically, therefore while an app may appear on the task manager, they do not necessarily waste battery as they are sitting "idle"- that also means that an app will load up quicker when you go to open it, rather than if you kill the task.
Also my other point, and this is the big one, killing tasks can not only corrupt an app from working correctly but also it can cause instability to your system in the long run (because you are also killing certain tasks which are system processes) thus you notice bugs ion your phone and required to flash firmware again.
I've used advanced task manager and task panel side by side quite religiously for a while, yes it is faster and battery life does SLIGHTLY improve but trust me your phone doesn't like it.
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zm4 said:
I agree but this worked for me and I recommend trying this. Also I agree with everything you have said and sometimes when I am out somewhere I tend to keep the phone in a deep sleep but I do not want to miss any calls or texts happening to me so I do this.
Appreciate what you have told me as well.
Also what good does formating do? (NOT SAYING IN AN OFFENSIVE MANNER, I AM JUST CURIOUS)
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Formatting is good because just like a computer, things can get f***ed up for no reason. You can have all the correct settings but things don't happen as anticipated. It happens with any complex electronic devices, so this is why I recommend it every few months but this varies depending on how intensely you use your phone.
I use mine like crazy and tweak the hell out of it. I do it about once a month, but then again I have cell phone OCD.
The task manager helps to close apps that constantly keep connecting to the Internet, it's not about freeing up RAM it's about using the Internet connection
Some "apps" are some bad hogs when it comes to the phones recourses
Some "apps" are quite some hogs when it comes to the phones recourses.
Internet connection, Syncing, Updating ads and so on.
Some of these "bad hogs" also keep running "at full speed" in the background.
They have no whatsoever routines to save energy/recourses once loaded (background or not).
Designers of these "bad apps" don't care about battery-life, or they simply have no whatsoever knowledge/experience about mobile devices and how an application should behave on a such device.
If one are the kind who downloads lots of "cool" applications from the market, a task-killer can help allot, depending on how many "recourse hog" application one have installed and loaded in the background.
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Some "apps" are quite some hogs when it comes to the phones recourses.
Internet connection, Syncing, Updating ads and so on.
Some of these "bad hogs" also keep running "at full speed" in the background.
They have no whatsoever routines to save energy/recourses once loaded (background or not).
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yeah but we don't have any app that tells us which app is using the battery and data connections right? sure the android OS tells us the battery usage, but data?
A app to stay away from is eBay it hogs cpu time and constantly refreshes in the background, my batt goes from 2days down to 8ish hours when the eBay app is installed
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yeah but we don't have any app that tells us which app is using the battery and data connections right? sure the android OS tells us the battery usage, but data?
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System Panel can do this
Taskkiller stuff is not welcomed by my X10. When I kill all the apps , sometimes my connection to my operator goes down. I don't know how many necessary process' this taskkiller stuff kills as well.. I avoid "kill all" , instead I kill the ones that I'm sure that they're using internet and cpu in vain. Wish all the mobile developers use the close() method , then we won't be facing that kind of problems..

Question on Titanium Backup.

Hey guys, have a quick question here, i have recently started using titanium backup.. and i tutored from a couple of youtube videos which helped a lot. Have a couple of questions about how you use it.
1. What i want to know is, is does encryption feature slow the process of the backup? Although most of the people schedule the backup at night, but i dont want the phone to be running for extended hours thus heating up the device etc.. if encryption does slow the process down.
2. Do you backup on a daily basis, or just weekly?
3. Does the backup happen in the background, and you can continue using other features of the phone while backup is running. Asking this, cos what if the titanium backup is running late at night and a phone call comes in or a message that i have to retrive? Or if et all.. I plan to surf or something late at night.
4. Whats an ideal "Max Backup History", currently i have set it to default one.
5. Do you keep compression or have disabled it, cos i know for sure this one surely slows down the backup process.. but surely it will compress the backup to retain space on the dropbox/sdcard... what do you choose ideally?
6. Dropbox better or Google drive?
I guess thats it for now.
I'd really appreciate your responses.
2. Only when I need to.
3. Yes, just click on the home button and you will see in the status bar that it is working.
4. Just use what you need. If you have use for more than one backup, then use more.
6. Both are good. But on my laptop I have an extension for Chrome which gives me the option to save a picture to Drive after right clicking it.
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2. Only when I need to.
3. Yes, just click on the home button and you will see in the status bar that it is working.
4. Just use what you need. If you have use for more than one backup, then use more.
6. Both are good. But on my laptop I have an extension for Chrome which gives me the option to save a picture to Drive after right clicking it.
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Thanks for your replies..
Now a few more remaining.. still looking for replies.
1. Encryption requires extra processing power. I don't think it's a lot and if you are storing your backup in the cloud it is probably worth it so the good people at the NSA aren't reading through your personal life on their lunch break. Or if someone gets into your account.
2. I only back up when I have everything set up how I want it and before I switch ROMs (not yet on this phone obviously lol).
3. For the most part, the backup can happen in the background. However, once in a while I have noticed it crash or freeze when I'm doing other stuff, but rarely.
4. I keep my max backup history at 2 because once and a while an app will release a crappy or broken update and I want the old version back.
5. If you have a lot of free space to spare, skip the compression.
6. I've been using Dropbox forever and need to give Google Drive a try.
I back up daily. But this comes from being a serial rom flasher and wanting the most up to date saved always. I do new app updates mon, wed and Fri. Do new data backups Sundays and Thursdays.
I only upload to the cloud rarely. Use a 64GB SD card instead. Holds fine.
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Legato Bluesummers said:
I back up daily. But this comes from being a serial rom flasher and wanting the most up to date saved always. I do new app updates mon, wed and Fri. Do new data backups Sundays and Thursdays.
I only upload to the cloud rarely. Use a 64GB SD card instead. Holds fine.
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Legato, thanks.. i like your idea.. pretty sensible way of doing it. Do you mind sharing your screenshot of the "Schedules" tab.. this way i can also try to set up mine.. i am pretty new to TiBu.
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Legato, thanks.. i like your idea.. pretty sensible way of doing it. Do you mind sharing your screenshot of the "Schedules" tab.. this way i can also try to set up mine.. i am pretty new to TiBu.
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Have you watched the videos of wwjoshdew? You'll learn much useful stuff by watching his tuts on TB.
RollsReus said:
Have you watched the videos of wwjoshdew? You'll learn much useful stuff by watching his tuts on TB.
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thats where i learnt to configure and setup TiBu, but he does not give out tips on scheduling etc.
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thats where i learnt to configure and setup TiBu, but he does not give out tips on scheduling etc.
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The scheduling is kind of up to yourself and whatever suits you. But I'd recommend to schedule at night so it makes backups while you might be charging your phone and not using it. Also weekends are good.
And the same goes for the rest. It's about what suits you the best.
And about encryption and compression, you might want to check TB Wiki (I believe they have) or their forums if they have.
Yeah scheduling is based on your usage and style. I'm a 3rd shifter. I run mine at 5pm. I'm almost always asleep then except on weekends.
I back up frequently because I'm used to flashing custom roms all the time. So having current back ups is nice. Since we won't be getting roms anytime soon cause they have to boot strap us first, I'm cutting back to like 2x a week. Just enough to cover myself in the event my phone bricks or whatever.
How many backups to keep us up to you and how much space you want to use. I do two. So in the event an update sucks I can revert.
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Is there any really working battery saver app that works without root?

hi everyone i am looking for application that really saves battery for non rooted phone
i used greenify but phone gets laggy after it
Actually there are plenty and you don't really need any to get good results. For system applications, that can't be disabled/frozen we have package disabler pro, everything else can be manually force stop. The only problem is you got to spend time to learn which programs you need and which you don't. To give you example I fully charged my phone last night, about 11:30 PM, got up 6:30AM and had 99% left. Once you stop programs that you don't use from running in the background, it will be like a new phone. To put it in perspective, just few weeks ago I had battery drain over the same night period, same phone 20%. You better believe the phone didn't last me whole day. All I did is manually force close all the programs that I don't use ATM. The are programs like Android assistant that make this process more automatic.
The phone already has a built in app that puts unused apps to sleep.
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The phone already has a built in app that puts unused apps to sleep.
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I'm not sure what putting app to sleep does, when I do, it still seems to be active and you can still force close it.
If you run any program once it will stay active in memory for 3 days and it will reload even if you restart the phone.
My problem with this approach is that some programs I use rarely, for example test internet speed once a month, when it seems slow or play a game to kill some time on the weekend and yet those apps stay active for days, unless you manually force close it. Even Google maps which I use for traffic info twice a day during commute, doesn't have to be active in memory when I'm working or at home and yet there is no way to unload, except manually force close it. And the difference in loading speed I can't tell without the stopwatch even if I actually would ever care. But those apps run in background and eat your battery and I can see it very well at night, when my phone should be on standby and sometimes instead runs full steam.
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Actually there are plenty and you don't really need any to get good results. For system applications, that can't be disabled/frozen we have package disabler pro, everything else can be manually force stop. The only problem is you got to spend time to learn which programs you need and which you don't. To give you example I fully charged my phone last night, about 11:30 PM, got up 6:30AM and had 99% left. Once you stop programs that you don't use from running in the background, it will be like a new phone. To put it in perspective, just few weeks ago I had battery drain over the same night period, same phone 20%. You better believe the phone didn't last me whole day. All I did is manually force close all the programs that I don't use ATM. The are programs like Android assistant that make this process more automatic.
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thanks for reply i bought package disabler pro today and have put some aps on disable
then i looked up xml file for it. one usser said that its the best configuration for that app but some functions were not working for example wallpaper changer battery stats and etc
i am looking again for best xml file to use that app correct
Here's my list, I took someone's basic list of 90 or so apps and added a few more. Everything is running stable with no force closes. I have AT&T bloat disabled so you might have to tweak the list some. I am also using BK Disabler but I'm pretty sure my XML will work on package disabler pro.
The biggest pain is to figure what are you using and what not, since everybody is different and one set fits all approach doesn't work. But you got to do this once. Also I would suggest not to uninstall anything, you never know what you may need 6 months from now and some system apps are not easy to reinstall.

Pause Between "100% Downloaded" and "Installing..."

I'm reasonably sure this isn't specific to the V20 but thought I'd start here.
I have a rooted H918. Some/most of the time when installing apps or updates, there is a long pause between the period of time that the download completes (reaches 100%) and when the app/update starts to install. I found a thread or two describing the same issue. The "solution" was to exit the Play Store application, close it, and then relaunch it. After relaunching, the app that was at 100% downloaded will then start to install. However, if there are several installs or updates queued, I have to do the same steps for each app. So, not much of a solution.
I've cleared the app cache, reverted to the base version of the Play Store and then updated to the latest version from APK Mirror. Same behavior continues. The strange thing is that it does not do this all of the time. Sometimes, things download and install right away.
Anyone else observe this behavior? Any suggestions of what to try?
Set your cpu governor to performance
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This is a performance issue, if your cpu is being used too much, it will have a delay
crimsonrommer said:
Set your cpu governor to performance
This is a performance issue, if your cpu is being used too much, it will have a delay
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Is there a kernel editor you recommend?
i prefer kernel auditor, its much more simpler to use
SJMarty said:
I'm reasonably sure this isn't specific to the V20 but thought I'd start here.
I have a rooted H918. Some/most of the time when installing apps or updates, there is a long pause between the period of time that the download completes (reaches 100%) and when the app/update starts to install. I found a thread or two describing the same issue. The "solution" was to exit the Play Store application, close it, and then relaunch it. After relaunching, the app that was at 100% downloaded will then start to install. However, if there are several installs or updates queued, I have to do the same steps for each app. So, not much of a solution.
I've cleared the app cache, reverted to the base version of the Play Store and then updated to the latest version from APK Mirror. Same behavior continues. The strange thing is that it does not do this all of the time. Sometimes, things download and install right away.
Anyone else observe this behavior? Any suggestions of what to try?
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Guys, you're like Don Quixote, fighting a windmills that do no harm. Just leave the Playmarket aside and it'll install apps.
You know that after a apk file is downloaded it begins to be compiled by ART/Dalvik, right? That causes the delay after apk is downloaded and begins to be installed. The process which does it is called dex2oat. When I install many apps that dex2oat runs high in battery statistics with 3-4% of battery. When apps are being compiled this process takes both much time AND battery. So, this cause a delay and you're fighting that what can't be fought. And if an app is huge like Chrome compiling takes much more time than if an app is tiny like some sort of Jota+ text editor hence different time between "Sometimes, things download and install right away"
Also, try to update apps when on charge since you loose 10%, 20% or more battery if install many apps in one try, hence you'll got "bad battery life"
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You know that after a apk file is downloaded it begins to be compiled by ART/Dalvik, right? That causes the delay after apk is downloaded and begins to be installed.
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The delay that I am seeing is significant. If I just leave the phone alone, it can be as long as 10-15 minutes between the time that the download completes and the app starts to install.
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if an app is huge like Chrome compiling takes much more time than if an app is tiny like some sort of Jota+ text editor hence different time between "Sometimes, things download and install right away"
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I should clarify that when I say there is a delay, there is a delay after every app install. For example, if I have five apps that need updates and I update all, there will be a long delay between each one of them completing the download and actually starting the install process. However, sometimes, I may have five apps that need updates and they will all install with no delays.
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Also, try to update apps when on charge since you loose 10%, 20% or more battery if install many apps in one try, hence you'll got "bad battery life"
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I'm having no problems with battery life.
I went ahead and adjusted the CPU governor to "Performance" and noticed no difference in the behavior. I enabled the CPU monitoring in Developer Options and there is no spiking after the download is complete so I don't believe the compiling process is responsible for the delay.
What prompted me to post my question was that I have two V20s (mine and the wife's) and her phone is not doing this. Both are rooted and running the same ROM (10t).
I'm open to any other ideas...
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What prompted me to post my question was that I have two V20s (mine and the wife's) and her phone is not doing this. Both are rooted and running the same ROM (10t).
I'm open to any other ideas...
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Then I can only suggest you tweaked your phone somehow and those tweaks caused a delay. Of course 10-15 mins doesn't attend to compiling, I thought you meant like 15 sec a delay
Wipe to factory state your phone and see after that when and after what tweaks you'll get delays back

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