Rooting the Hydrogen One - RED Hydrogen One Questions & Answers

I've received my phone and contrary to the review sites, it's a very cool and unique device with an incredible screen as well as a huge battery!
As a long time power user who has always rooted his phones, I've gone through and tried to unlock the bootloader but so far to no avail
My hope is to get into fastboot and then OEM unlock the bootloader at least, then get into sideloading Magisk at a minimum and hopefully down the line, get TWRP on there and then a custom ROM such as AEX to give me all the tweaks I'm missing compared to my Oneplus 3T with AEX on it! Look forward to the discussion and hopefully someone with good skills can get hold of the phone to make it happen! Thx

I have enabled Developer Mode and OEM unlock is an option so it's most definitely rootable. But the chances of this phone getting near a big enough user database to get dev's working on it is unlikely. But here's to hoping

RLKirk said:
I have enabled Developer Mode and OEM unlock is an option so it's most definitely rootable. But the chances of this phone getting near a big enough user database to get dev's working on it is unlikely. But here's to hoping
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Yes, the OEM Unlock gives me hope. I haven't been able to get to the fastboot system to try it though. Did you manage to get there? The usual volume up plus power on boot doesn't work.

I don't think this will be a rootable phone, you can get as far as fastboot but it requires a hash-code for unlocking. Unless a third party can decode it Red will not share I have asked. Unfortunately this really sucks because there are definitely some things that could be fixed with a few hacks ie. back light, audio levels, scrolling responsiveness.
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That really sucks that Red won't give us an unlock code. I love the 4V but without root I really can't use the phone as a daily driver. As you say, too many things which could be fixed but won't be without root.

Fingers crossed for someone in the US getting the phone through AT&T et al who is also good at hacking. Otherwise I think I may end up selling the phone at an unfortunate loss

visceralpsyche said:
Fingers crossed for someone in the US getting the phone through AT&T et al who is also good at hacking. Otherwise I think I may end up selling the phone at an unfortunate loss
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Yeah I like the 4V display but that is the only thing the phone has going for it.and it makes it quite boring for me. (I'm used to HTC and Samsung). Also the screen size is a turn off and the huge bezels everywhere. Believe it or not I would rather have the pixel 3 with its horrendous notch. Which is the most upsetting phone edition since apple. I would say this phone would be great with root and roms and if that happens I may give it another go. But for now I think I'm just going to let it go...

Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!

visceralpsyche said:
Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!
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Yes, they told me they would do this. But they won't give you a code if you have a carrier phone.

StormCell said:
Yes, they told me they would do this. But they won't give you a code if you have a carrier phone.
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Yes but that's pretty much standard ops for carriers due to their onerous rules. Buy unlocked from Red directly if you plan to root ?

Nice
Thats nice to hear as it s an mandatory point for an loot of user.
Me too after 3 years i want replace my lg g4 white the titanium version.
Another good think i found after request is the phone support aptx hd
h4v.com/faq (thx for censoring any new member from free spech and links)
Yes, Bluetooth™ 5.0, A2DP, LE, aptX HD
Now i need information about usb 3.1 and quickcharge 3.0 + (is the snapdragon 835 not mandatory this ?) and if it worked in eu band (germany) if i imported it

GaliumOrderatum said:
Now i need information about usb 3.1 and quickcharge 3.0 + (is the snapdragon 835 not mandatory this ?) and if it worked in eu band (germany) if i imported it
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Yes it works fine in the EU. I'm in the Netherlands ?
It has USB-C and QC3.0 as well.

USB-C means 3.1 + ??
Somebody have information about an eu release ?? The damm tax for importing is extrem ......
If i calculate it for the titan version you can buy an V30 ore higher 512 gb micro sd for thats burning money ..............

There's a new thread on h4vuser for rooting stuff. So if you are interested in rooting please comment there where Red staff can see it ??
https://h4vuser.net/t/rooting-unlocking-bootloader/5972

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Yes it works fine in the EU. I'm in the Netherlands
It has USB-C and QC3.0 as well.
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works fine in belgium to

Hi, how i find this option , unlock OEM

visceralpsyche said:
Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!
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Did you ever get that unlock code?

No, they went radio silent
I've posted at h4vuser.net several times but no one seems interested. I love the H4V but can't use it as a daily driver without being in charge of my own device.

I have successfully unlocked my bootloader but im not a developer so i dont know how to compile a TWRP for it but but if any one does know how i really would like to assist in getting this device rooted i have been trying since they day it was released

What was your method to unlock the bootloader?

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letter to lg about unlocking the bootloader

OK just for the hell of it I wrote lg asking for a bootloader unlock claiming that I paid full price for my phone and should be able to do with it what I want like if I wanted to throw it against the wall I'm allowed but if I want to install a custom ROM you're not going to allow me to do this so anyway here is the response I got
------Reply to Your Inquiry-------
Dear Mr. Shreve,
Thank you so much for contacting LG Electronics USA!
I am more than glad to assist you with your concern. Please accept our apologies for the misinformation
We understand you will like to be able to unlock the boot loader in your phone; however the boot loader is locked due to a carrier request and we are not allowed to either unlock or provide information on how to unlock the boot loader. This would violate our contract established with the carriers.
I am so sorry to have to disappoint you in this matter and I truly wish I had a more favorable answer for you.
Thank you so much for contacting us and for your time. At the bottom, you will be able to see a survey and score your experience with me. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us via Email, Live Chat or by calling 800-243-0000. Thank you very much for your kindness and patience! Please enjoy the rest of your day and I wish you the best!
Sincerely,
Lorraine D.
Edit- I'm on the phone right now with Verizon trying to get a letter from them to give to lg to get the bootloader unlocked will keep you updated on how it goes I doubt if I'll get anywhere but I figured it was worth a shot
OK still on hold I'm being put thru to a tech support manager
This sucks. Hopefully here in South Africa the carriers have different opinions on bootloader locking on the international D855 variant. I'll try to contact them and any repose I get I'll be sure to post on here XDA.
OK still on the line with Verizon but the good news is that Verizon is actually calling lg for me to see if they won't unlock the bootloader or tell me how to do it fingers crossed
Robshr said:
OK still on the line with Verizon but the good news is that Verizon is actually calling lg for me to see if they won't unlock the bootloader or tell me how to do it fingers crossed
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So talked to Verizon for about an hour and they said it was fine with them but it was up to lg so I'm back on the phone with lg waiting to see what happens will keep you all posted
Will it was all for nothing just as I suspected lg said they do not have the unlock codes or even if they did they would not provide them
But her it was worth a shot nothing gained nothing lost
I just really believe it'll be solved in mid to late November. I just have a feeling (based on history lol)
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I just really believe it'll be solved in mid to late November. I just have a feeling (based on history lol)
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I hope so I just figured I'd give it a try
Thanks for sharing!
So basically the initial response you received by Lorraine of LG is merely lies as regards carrier requisite and the rest of it
nerdo said:
Thanks for sharing!
So basically the initial response you received by Lorraine of LG is merely lies as regards carrier requisite and the rest of it
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yes basically they're all lying about the bootloader I called lg back several times and they basically told me they have no way to get the unlock codes for the bootloader so I read back the email they sent me and they said the person was wrong for sending me false information .
I got quite irate and asked to speak to a supervisor which did no good at all because he didn't even know what a bootloader was I had to explain it to him he then said he'd check into it but no success
I just had to laugh that a supervising tech support guy had no clue what a bootloader was
Robshr said:
yes basically they're all lying about the bootloader I called lg back several times and they basically told me they have no way to get the unlock codes for the bootloader so I read back the email they sent me and they said the person was wrong for sending me false information .
I got quite irate and asked to speak to a supervisor which did no good at all because he didn't even know what a bootloader was I had to explain it to him he then said he'd check into it but no success
I just had to laugh that a supervising tech support guy had no clue what a bootloader was
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Wow - I literally went through almost the same process with Sprint this evening. A game of "It's Sprint's fault" followed by "It's LG's fault". Sprint then told me if I paid off my contract they would unlock the bootloader - apparently the whole time they thought I wanted the carrier unlock because they too had no idea what a bootloader unlock was. The supervisor said they could not unlock the bootloader and to yet again contact LG. LG finally told me they can't unlock the bootloader. Big waste of time but thought I'd give it a shot too.
I love this phone - it took a lot of root tweaks but I get amazing battery life, great photos and a lag free experience. However - not being able to install custom kernels or even make a nandroid is beginning to really frustrate me. I'm gonna be patient that our devs figure something out but this may be the last LG phone I buy. If they won't be dev friendly like HTC, they won't get anymore of my money. Not that it will matter because they'll still make a crapload but it's the principle. Lol.
Well I just responded inline with the first email lg sent me and started that I had permission from my carrier to unlock the bootloader so I'm just waiting on a response
Doubt it'll get me anywhere but what the hell
Robshr said:
Well I just responded inline with the first email lg sent me and started that I had permission from my carrier to unlock the bootloader so I'm just waiting on a response
Doubt it'll get me anywhere but what the hell
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That's how I looked at it - it was irritating but while I wait I might as well try other avenues. Thanks and keep us posted.
Lg will never unlock Verizon unless Verizon says so.Ask the Dev about this each g3 (Verizon) for example has different issues they are running into..Verizon has no fastboot,just to name one..The other do..Sprint from what I hear has done a great job on making unlock difficult. Bottom line Verizon, sprint etc do have contracts with lg,they ask certain things to be done and lg does those things if they want their device to be sold by them..
On an individual bases, take the letter from the carrier, stating it's ok to unlock, and take LG to small claims court. In most cases they may not show, and providing you have 'evidence', the letter, the judge may opine for you. If so the court will notify LG that you were awarded the case, and XXX in $. Once the idea catches on, LG may very well unlock the G3. This process works very well.
Once a win occurs, make a youtube video, and that will also apply pressure, and for others to also take the time to go to small claims court,
May not take long or many cases. Small claims costs are relatively cheap across the states. You may also serve them with a subpoena duce mecum (asking for XXX records). They may not have to reply, but on the occasion they do, the info could be very helpful.
I was just gonna kidnap some Korean and demand LG to unlock. Haha. Sorry for the distasteful comment. I opt and hope that someone unlocks it.
I ask LG about Android 4.4.4 and unlock bootloader solution. There are their answer (my translation):
You could be happy, we are going to release huge update for G3.
We offer this product in the safest condition as google recommendations.
So I wrote them again:
Yes or no question.. Do you ever unlock G3? (Nexus and Moto phones, HTC and even Samsung offer this ability so don't blame google. )
Their answer is really simple. No we are not. Thank you for your trust.
I dont think the bootloader will be unlocked at this stage, its looking much like the G2, the G4 will be out soon enough and this will be another forgotten handset.
LG's stance on an official bootloader unlock looks to be a pretty clear negative one. I'm amazed that even after creating two Nexus devices & working in close co-operation with Google for the past 2 years LG still hasn't learnt or appreciated the impact of the developer community. There is no Developer Edition G3 or Google Play Edition G3 in sight either, so I'm pretty sure they're not least bit bothered about working on the bootloader as such.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure we're better off waiting & encouraging our devs to work on the bootloader unlock and/or exploit rather then LG giving a solution. I'm positive it'll be done, and when it is, I'll gladly jump ship to any AOSP based ROM in a flash! (pun intended)
I for one would be very happy to have unlocked bootloader on my D855. But seeing from LG's perspective it is not wise, such uninformed newbie could make system edit and bork their phone and ask LG for a replace.
Only a few of my friends knows about bootloader, others dont even know what root is. So i guess LG just choose to ignore or even intentionally make so the bootloader is very hard to bypass.

Any owners or prospective owners out there?

I actually work for Sprint and would consider picking up this phone if it got some decent developer support. If anyone has any basic questions about the device or its specs feel free to ask as I have played with it pretty extensively. It's an HTC device so hopefully it has an unlockable bootloader?
I should be receiving my Bolt in a few days, but I recall HTC stating that phones 2011 and newer will be able to unlock their bootloaders but certain models will be unlockable due to operators restriction.
Hopefully this phone gets some decent developer support.
Nice. As far as we can get it - m9 will get N faster) I'm also wanting to take a look at bolt's audio system, but system dump needed.
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Nice. As far as we can get it - m9 will get N faster) I'm also wanting to take a look at bolt's audio system, but system dump needed.
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By N do you mean nougat? Cause the Bolt comes with Nougat 7.0 out of the box. First HTC phone to get it.
Also I'm not sure if XDA's description of the Bolt where it states the device is a mid range one from HTC is accurate. This is clearly intended to be a flagship. Sure it has the SD 810, but even in 2016 that is hardly a mid range SOC, and the device has many flagship qualities like a 5.5 inch quad HD display, an all metal unibody design with water resistance, large battery, USB type C, expandable storage, latest version of Android, etc.
There is even the whole LTE plus support thing which is a quality that other flagship on Sprint do not have. Oh and it has a 16mp camera with OIS. How exactly is this a mid range?
I have played with this phone a lot at work and it is very responsive. I don't think the SD 810 makes a difference.
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By N do you mean nougat? Cause the Bolt comes with Nougat 7.0 out of the box. First HTC phone to get it.
Also I'm not sure if XDA's description of the Bolt where it states the device is a mid range one from HTC is accurate. This is clearly intended to be a flagship. Sure it has the SD 810, but even in 2016 that is hardly a mid range SOC, and the device has many flagship qualities like a 5.5 inch quad HD display, an all metal unibody design with water resistance, large battery, USB type C, expandable storage, latest version of Android, etc.
There is even the whole LTE plus support thing which is a quality that other flagship on Sprint do not have. Oh and it has a 16mp camera with OIS. How exactly is this a mid range?
I have played with this phone a lot at work and it is very responsive. I don't think the SD 810 makes a difference.
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I care only about audio man) Bolt seems to be a slightly upgraded version of m9, which i'm very happy with. I just want to put my hands on Bolt's system dump asap)
Just picked mine up today... Any devs need a system dump?
I got mine today
HTC has the latest 1.17.651.11 RUU posted, I'm downloading then will posted imgs as well as firmware & stock rooted rom
OMJ said:
HTC has the latest 1.17.651.11 RUU posted, I'm downloading then will posted imgs as well as firmware & stock rooted rom
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Please can you share the new apk's clock (with widget) and the new camera (with panorama selfie)?
drob311 said:
Just picked mine up today... Any devs need a system dump?
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Yes!! I want to port usb audio stuff to m9. Also wanna take a look at new SRS/DTS stuff) PM me, bro.
anyone try S-off yet?
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anyone try S-off yet?
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I didn't do the HTC unlock. I tried sunshine in hopes of getting lucky and not having to use HTC unlock... No luck... Once I unlock bootloader, I'll try sunshine again.
drob311 said:
I didn't do the HTC unlock. I tried sunshine in hopes of getting lucky and not having to use HTC unlock... No luck... Once I unlock bootloader, I'll try sunshine again.
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I don't think sunshine will work yet...their website shows it supports up to android 6.0.1...jcase needs some partitions pulled to be able to update
Well... After my pizza arrives, I'll start the process of rooting this bad boy. My plan is HTC unlock, flash twrp, flash SuperSU. Once I get root, I'll pull whatever info jcase needs... What's all this talk about data partition getting corrupted after unlock?
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Well... After my pizza arrives, I'll start the process of rooting this bad boy. My plan is HTC unlock, flash twrp, flash SuperSU. Once I get root, I'll pull whatever info jcase needs... What's all this talk about data partition getting corrupted after unlock?
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cool...I believe after unlocking it factory resets
I would like a system Dump. Work got me one I will have it shortly
hawknest said:
I would like a system Dump. Work got me one I will have it shortly
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I have the system img posted here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/bolt/development/ruu-sprint-htc-bolt-1-17-651-11-updated-t3502778
Sorry for the dumb question does the bolt have a unlocked boot loader
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sliverr7x said:
Sorry for the dumb question does the bolt have a unlocked boot loader
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all HTC devices come locked by default, but yes the Bolt can be unlocked via htcdev.com
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Sorry for the dumb question does the bolt have a unlocked boot loader
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You can unlock it but obtaining root is a different story... I've been slowly working on it with OMJ's help. I can't get SuperSU to flash and actually mod the boot.img...
If you have any luck, please let me know what you did. Thanks!

Buying this phone

Hi guys. I am thinking to buy this phone in upcoming independence day sales for rs 7500 32gb.
I see good development community for this device. Good custom roms.
Do guys recommend it.?
yes, i would recommend it. i got 4gb 64gb for 7600 in last month. totally worth it. excellent battery backup. can play pubg even on hdr with BAGT tool without lag. FYI oreo 340 firmware is best for this device. which has good brightness and loud sound. also charges faster and gives good battery life. now im bored of using stock rom so decided to try some custom pie roms.
Hey man same thing I have in my mind also.. planning to buy tommorw sale (8th August), came here for review . I have also done some investigation on this. Seems all good with Oreo. Have some bugs in pie and my only concern is it don't have Gorilla glass ..what's your opinion , let me know
Where you are getting for 7500?, In flip-kart they increased the price to 8000
Check 2GUD, Refurbished Phones but Flipkart owns 2GUD so no problem. (Not Promoting)
You can easily get 4/64 variant at ₹7800 and 3/32 at ₹6500.
You don't have to use Google service anymore with this phone of you rooted it, and I've some today and its working great and battery life got more awesome, check this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1/how-to/install-microg-asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1-t3953130 we all can leave the Google out of our life.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Check 2GUD, Refurbished Phones but Flipkart owns 2GUD so no problem. (Not Promoting)
You can easily get 4/64 variant at ₹7800 and 3/32 at ₹6500.
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Hi Bro,
I am getting from flipkart 4/67 for ₹8000. At least i will get 1 year warranty right for that extra 200 rupee. And also i added external warranty for 99 rupee to cover full damage. What do you think about it? its useful?
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Hi Bro,
I am getting from flipkart 4/67 for ₹8000. At least i will get 1 year warranty right for that extra 200 rupee. And also i added external warranty for 99 rupee to cover full damage. What do you think about it? its useful?
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Go for it!
Thanks guys I have got the 4gb 64gb variant for 7650.
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Thanks guys I have got the 4gb 64gb variant for 7650.
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Same here. I have ordered with external warranty ( ₹99 )and awaiting for delivery. One thing, Are you going to root now itself or You will wait until the warranty expiry date?
One more , Even if we root and do naughty stuffs , we can flash the original firmware and gain warranty right?
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Same here. I have ordered with external warranty ( ₹99 )and awaiting for delivery. One thing, Are you going to root now itself or You will wait until the warranty expiry date?
One more , Even if we root and do naughty stuffs , we can flash the original firmware and gain warranty right?
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My first asus device. I'm still exploring asus.
I have been using Xiaomi till now. Xiaomi devices do not have any issue even if you officially unlock, you can still flash fastboot rom which locks bootloader. So no issues.
I haven't unlocked or rooted this device till now but will do that soon.
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My first asus device. I'm still exploring asus.
I have been using Xiaomi till now. Xiaomi devices do not have any issue even if you officially unlock, you can still flash fastboot rom which locks bootloader. So no issues.
I haven't unlocked or rooted this device till now but will do that soon.
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I'm still sceptical,I heard this phone doesn't support Vodafone 4G(band 1) im not sure,and it looks like lot issues with this phone based on users post,but this custom rom community is strong compared to other mid range mobiles,so im confused.
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I'm still sceptical,I heard this phone doesn't support Vodafone 4G(band 1) im not sure,and it looks like lot issues with this phone based on users post,but this custom rom community is strong compared to other mid range mobiles,so im confused.
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I am Airtel user so no issues.
I have bought this device just because it has good dev community comparatively and also got official pixel experience ROM.
One can go with this mobile if camera is not concern.
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I am Airtel user so no issues.
I have bought this device just because it has good dev community comparatively and also got official pixel experience ROM.
One can go with this mobile if camera is not concern.
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Just purchased for 7648Rs(4/64GB),hope it will worth it
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Thanks guys I have got the 4gb 64gb variant for 7650.
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Got your phone delivered? Are you planing to unlock and flash rom immediately or are going to wait till warranty expires?
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Got your phone delivered? Are you planing to unlock and flash rom immediately or are going to wait till warranty expires?
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Got it. Unlocked and running on pixel experience.
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Got it. Unlocked and running on pixel experience.
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I can't able to see OEM unlock option in developer mode. Is any one got it ? Or is it not mandatory to unlock OEM?
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I can't able to see OEM unlock option in developer mode. Is any one got it ? Or is it not mandatory to unlock OEM?
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It's not needed you can directly unlock
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It's not needed you can directly unlock
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Thanks man....
Any one experienced guy please suggest me good rom (with minimal bug). I hate the default AOSP OS, but i am confused with lot of rom here, Hope here lot of guys flashed and have experience. Please suggest on your experience. (I need native video calling support for jio)
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Thanks man....
Any one experienced guy please suggest me good rom (with minimal bug). I hate the default AOSP OS, but i am confused with lot of rom here, Hope here lot of guys flashed and have experience. Please suggest on your experience. (I need native video calling support for jio)
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Try superior os its working well without any issues except otg.
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Try superior os its working well without any issues except otg.
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Thank you i will try it out.. There are three concerns i have in this mobile
1. Audio volume is low in headset
2. Charging speed is slow.
3. Native video calling not working most of the time(I got seen some fix for this).
Any one have solution for the above mentioned issue. Please give your opinions.
Add-on: Badge notification on the icon.

how to skip the xioami waiting time

Well I applied for unlocking the bootloader but I just can't wait till 160 hours waiting without root so is there anyway to skip all this
Edit :is eu ROM better than the global one
batman957 said:
Well I applied for unlocking the bootloader but I just can't wait till 160 hours waiting without root so is there anyway to skip all this
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You can't
Yep! Is better
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Well I applied for unlocking the bootloader but I just can't wait till 160 hours waiting without root so is there anyway to skip all this
Edit :is eu ROM better than the global one
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Some say that it is possible but i never found a way that work.. so my guess is you need to wait (as i did too).
On the Note 5 last year was more brutal, 15 days to wait.
batman957 said:
Well I applied for unlocking the bootloader but I just can't wait till 160 hours waiting without root so is there anyway to skip all this
Edit :is eu ROM better than the global one
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Some say that it is possible but i never found a way that work.. so my guess is you need to wait (as i did too).
On the Note 5 last year was more brutal, 15 days to wait.
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Yep. I even heard some people manage to do it. But it was random. Here is a guide for anyone who want to try. No risks.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/how-to/unlocking-bootloader-immediately-t3926424/amp/
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Well I applied for unlocking the bootloader but I just can't wait till 160 hours waiting without root so is there anyway to skip all this
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You should to wait. There are (some) service(s) can help unlock it immediatly but they're need paid (about 23$) and only for miui 9.
I wonder why they are doing this. It's not like somebody hapless just stumbles into unlocking without knowing about the consequences. Also, it's useless as a security feature in case of stealery since you need your Mi account anyway on both the PC and the phone.
I used to be annoyed by the three days I had on the A1. A week is beyond annoying, especially on a phone with such thin sound over BT (I only root for V4A these days)
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I wonder why they are doing this. It's not like somebody hapless just stumbles into unlocking without knowing about the consequences. Also, it's useless as a security feature in case of stealery since you need your Mi account anyway on both the PC and the phone.
I used to be annoyed by the three days I had on the A1. A week is beyond annoying, especially on a phone with such thin sound over BT (I only root for V4A these days)
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Well they do it since some don't know exactly what they are doing beyond unlock and flash TWRP so when they soft brick Xiaomi (specially in China, Russia and India) has to give support for the phones. This make people double think if they really want to go down that route.
Also, no brand want us to unlock the bootloader so the more they can do to avoid us to do so (but without losing the market of people who only buy Xiaomi to unlock) they will.
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Well they do it since some don't know exactly what they are doing beyond unlock and flash TWRP so when they soft brick Xiaomi (specially in China, Russia and India) has to give support for the phones. This make people double think if they really want to go down that route.
Also, no brand want us to unlock the bootloader so the more they can do to avoid us to do so (but without losing the market of people who only buy Xiaomi to unlock) they will.
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I frankly didn't read the EULA bla bla but usually when you unlock, the warranty is gone anyway.
Still annoying though.
It's an extra layer of security for people who don't unlock the bootloader. Means that if your phone gets stolen, the thief will have to wait at least a week before they can do anything with the phone.
Annoying, but at least we can unlock the bootloader eventually - most don't offer the option at all. There's no way around it, you just have to wait.
Hello, yah there are many reasons behind this unlock timer, but just because others don't offer such unlock option at all, does not mean we have to be cool about it. Xiaomi is known as cheap but quality brand beloved by modders when it comes to unleashing true hardware power. If it becomes strict about locking bootloaders, they're risking to loose a lot of customers.
Anyway.. I bought K20 and just as you - got stuck on this stupid waiting time. Most say its because to stop aftermarket unauthorized resellers, so nobody could buy a bunch of chinese Xiaomis, flash them with global roms and sell them with profit. Cmon Xiaomi... I'm just ONE man, my acc is associated with only ONE device - K20..
I got waiting time for 7 days. Tested famous method known in this forum such as using new and old unlocker - din't helped, so I decided to give up and wait.. Might as well use my K20 daily to see what I like, what I don't, how to pre-setup after unlocking bootloader. Oh, whats this - MIUI 11 update? Sure, lets try, if its bad, ill just flash MIUI 10 no prob after those 7 days.
OH HOW WRONG I WAS. Just because I updated to MIUI 11, my waiting time extended to 14days! FOR F SAKE XIAOMI! Why on Earth would You do that?? I'm the same user, on same device, same MI acc... This is out of my mind.
I got so annoyed by this, I started google all the methods possible, using two accounts, using many old unlockers, nothing helped. But you know what, my waiting time is now: 17days!!
ohhh god damnit.
Also i noticed one interesting recent youtube video, guy shows how to unlock K20 Pro / MI 9T Pro using two unlockers. The thing is, hes using new unlocker, then old one and when old one fails, hes quickly disconnects usb cable, puts in another port and - it works! Phone gets unlocked!
The old unlocker gets some "Unknown error -1" code. I'm not getting this code now, all I get is something: "Please download new version". But as far as I remember, I used to get that "Unknown error -1". Did Xiaomi patched this just seconds ago? Damn I was so close to unlocking
Seems like I can't post a link to a youtube video, so if you wanna find it, the exact title is: "Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro | Bootloader Unlock | Redmi K20 Pro | Detailed Guide" and the uploader is "munchy".
I was thinking, how does bootloader gets unlocked, it seems like the unlock code is already generated inside (at least at old ones Mi unlockers), cause it only takes reconnecting USB or for some people to only to try again.
I was trying with old unlocker to unplug my internet port right before phone gets unlocked and guess what I get? - "Unknown error -1". I experimented with this LAN unplugging and usb switching, din't helped, but maybe its because mine runing on MIUI 11? Maybe bootloader got updated too with new MIUI 11? Some of you might wanna try this with MIUI 10.
Sorry for long post, but if you are frustrated like me, this might spark some new ideas, there's got to be a way!
boxcat said:
Hello, yah there are many reasons behind this unlock timer, but just because others don't offer such unlock option at all, does not mean we have to be cool about it. Xiaomi is known as cheap but quality brand beloved by modders when it comes to unleashing true hardware power. If it becomes strict about locking bootloaders, they're risking to loose a lot of customers.
Anyway.. I bought K20 and just as you - got stuck on this stupid waiting time. Most say its because to stop aftermarket unauthorized resellers, so nobody could buy a bunch of chinese Xiaomis, flash them with global roms and sell them with profit. Cmon Xiaomi... I'm just ONE man, my acc is associated with only ONE device - K20..
I got waiting time for 7 days. Tested famous method known in this forum such as using new and old unlocker - din't helped, so I decided to give up and wait.. Might as well use my K20 daily to see what I like, what I don't, how to pre-setup after unlocking bootloader. Oh, whats this - MIUI 11 update? Sure, lets try, if its bad, ill just flash MIUI 10 no prob after those 7 days.
OH HOW WRONG I WAS. Just because I updated to MIUI 11, my waiting time extended to 14days! FOR F SAKE XIAOMI! Why on Earth would You do that?? I'm the same user, on same device, same MI acc... This is out of my mind.
I got so annoyed by this, I started google all the methods possible, using two accounts, using many old unlockers, nothing helped. But you know what, my waiting time is now: 17days!!
ohhh god damnit.
Also i noticed one interesting recent youtube video, guy shows how to unlock K20 Pro / MI 9T Pro using two unlockers. The thing is, hes using new unlocker, then old one and when old one fails, hes quickly disconnects usb cable, puts in another port and - it works! Phone gets unlocked!
The old unlocker gets some "Unknown error -1" code. I'm not getting this code now, all I get is something: "Please download new version". But as far as I remember, I used to get that "Unknown error -1". Did Xiaomi patched this just seconds ago? Damn I was so close to unlocking
Seems like I can't post a link to a youtube video, so if you wanna find it, the exact title is: "Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro | Bootloader Unlock | Redmi K20 Pro | Detailed Guide" and the uploader is "munchy".
I was thinking, how does bootloader gets unlocked, it seems like the unlock code is already generated inside (at least at old ones Mi unlockers), cause it only takes reconnecting USB or for some people to only to try again.
I was trying with old unlocker to unplug my internet port right before phone gets unlocked and guess what I get? - "Unknown error -1". I experimented with this LAN unplugging and usb switching, din't helped, but maybe its because mine runing on MIUI 11? Maybe bootloader got updated too with new MIUI 11? Some of you might wanna try this with MIUI 10.
Sorry for long post, but if you are frustrated like me, this might spark some new ideas, there's got to be a way!
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Xiaomi is know as cheap, but you bought a device from them and your saying that modders in others words loves xiaomi. Like yourself? Your complaining about wait time and still needing advice? Trying to find a way to shorting the time but in reality its a WAIT period and you like any modders of xiaomi devices can't understand it? Smh
Please dont respond back im just saying.
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Xiaomi is know as cheap, but you bought a device from them and your saying that modders in others words loves xiaomi. Like yourself? Your complaining about wait time and still needing advice? Trying to find a way to shorting the time but in reality its a WAIT period and you like any modders of xiaomi devices can't understand it? Smh
Please dont respond back im just saying.
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Well I'm really sorry but I will, cause my friend, you din't get why is so annoying. Its simple - Xiaomi used to not do that. I understand their precautions, but the execution is terrible towards the end user.
If it would stayed at those 7days, I would be fine.
well i think xiaomi do this so people keep using MIUI instead of custom ROM
Shojimeguro said:
well i think xiaomi do this so people keep using MIUI instead of custom ROM
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They do it to make more complicated for resellers to buy a Chinese phone, flash and sell it with international firmware
For an ordinary user there is no problem to wait 7 days (besides, people say they 'dont like' MIUI but barely even try to use it), and after that sky is your limit regarding the custom ROMs (except that some don't even do their homework to learn during those 7 days how to properly flash ROMs, etc)
The main reason Xiaomi has enforced this wait time is because of ad revenue. They make large sums of money from ads on MIUI. If people start installing custom ROMs, then they directly lose ad revenue from MIUI.
I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere that someone tried to bypass the limitation. Instead the date for shifted to a even long time.

Any ex "hybrid rom concept edition" (Xperia Z Ultra uses) interested in development?

Any ex "hybrid rom concept edition" (Xperia Z Ultra uses) interested in development?
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
Doom Slayer said:
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
Doom Slayer said:
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I don't know ur work , but im really interested to see what r u able to do with this phone , I will be here to test anything , and from my pov I think speed is better
Beetle84 said:
Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
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Few reasons, one is that I need to see what can be done with locked one. I managed to port Z3's concept rom to Zu, made it 400mb and it was able to run with Locked Bootloader.
Second reason, is that I can't really afford to brick it right now. I think of switching to black from chrome for a while
I need some crazy idea to motivate myself.
I was able to live with GAAps-free phone for a year, but Nanodroid didn't support new Maps v2 api.
Plus removing Google really improves battery life.
Personally, I am all crazy about Cyber Security and I got pissed when phone lags. Also I believe that most of "innovations" are softeare, that are easy to port.
I posted Google free rom with clear instructions how to install Nanodroid but it's not intersting.
Doom Slayer said:
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I'm definitely interested .
speed is the better
wow cant wait im still using your Hybrid rom concept edition v2 i love it plus im also on locked boot loader
any news for your project ?
Any update my z ultra is hungry for a new rom
@Doom Slayer, about what can be done with still locked bootloader - you may check following post:
Android PIE VerifiedBoot Bypass: sony xperia XZ1c locked bootloader permanently rooted
I like your [GUIDE] Z Ultra and Z1 HARD BRICK RECOVERY thread.
Do you think it could be made working with XZp/XZ1/XZ1c phones too?
Hardbrick recovery would be very useful for yoshino phones (managed to brick two already).
@j4nn, that's looks promising. Great work! Too bad I don't have any locked device. But I will keep that information in mind.
About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
About the rom development, I am still thinking of a concept itself.
Most likely it would be ultra-debloated
Doom Slayer said:
About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
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Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
j4nn said:
Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
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I will pm you.

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