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Yet another unkept promise from Motorola.
Moto announced that the RAZR HD Jelly Bean update would be available for Latam users in 2013Q1 (in the general public JB announcement). It has been moved in its US page to 2013Q2, when checking my specific carrier. The local Motorola subsidiary doesn't even say IF the xt925 is going to be updated AT ALL (they just say they don't know anything about a possible update). Meanwile, in the US the previous-gen RAZR already has JB, and here in my country HTC and Samsung users of previous-gen handsets like the Galaxy S2 and Sensation already are running the carrier approved JB update. And with the S4 around the corner, I'll likely see people with handsets from two generations ago running more up to date software than I, having the current Motorola "flag****". Wtf, Moto. Why the discrimination against Latam users? I guess that I can discount that my brand new phone won't be elegible for Android 5, which is right around the corner. Never again purchasing from Googlerola.
Just an FYI about Moto.
ponzs said:
Yet another unkept promise from Motorola.
Moto announced that the RAZR HD Jelly Bean update would be available for Latam users in 2013Q1 (in the general public JB announcement). It has been moved in its US page to 2013Q2, when checking my specific carrier. The local Motorola subsidiary doesn't even say IF the xt925 is going to be updated AT ALL (they just say they don't know anything about a possible update). Meanwile, in the US the previous-gen RAZR already has JB, and here in my country HTC and Samsung users of previous-gen handsets like the Galaxy S2 and Sensation already are running the carrier approved JB update. And with the S4 around the corner, I'll likely see people with handsets from two generations ago running more up to date software than I, having the current Motorola "flag****". Wtf, Moto. Why the discrimination against Latam users? I guess that I can discount that my brand new phone won't be elegible for Android 5, which is right around the corner. Never again purchasing from Googlerola.
Just an FYI about Moto.
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Ok, first of all, take a pill, phill.
Second of all, you can already install the Brazilian JB firmware on your phone. Stop saying how other brands have got JB before while Moto did not. Motorola is not the fastest, certainly, but it's getting them faster than LG, Sony, and even some Samsung/HTC phones.
And last but definitely not least, why on earth do you care so freaking much about an update which will make your phone lose your HDMI features and only adds a few useless features (yes I'm talking about Google Now)?
You don't buy a Motorola for software updates, you buy it because of great build quality and call quality/battery life. Everyone knows that.
Anyway, you could just simply be patient, enjoy ICS and hdmi, which you will lose on JB, and wait for "Q2" which is already here and you should see the update in the next 45 days.
*And yes, I am from Latam and Motorola doesn't really discriminate Latam. In fact, we are the only ones with dedicated Moto web pages (they left all Europe except UK, Germany and France).
I often forget how bad it can be outside of the US/Europe. With the big markets and carriers here we usually get the updates first. I'm already on the newer version of JB. Although you need to remember not only do you have to wait for localization but for it to pass through your carrier as well so they can pack their own bloatware in. (An issue I've long dealt with being a Verizon customer, grandfathered unlimited, what can I do?)
Even if you've been pushed a few months you're not missing anything revolutionary. I'd not consider it the jump that GB>ICS was. Just keep in mind it may be your carrier's issue as much as Moto's.
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You should buy unbranded to not depend on your carrier if you want timely updates and LATAM has the xt925 so we can unlock our device's bootloader, the xt926 U.S. guys are not so lucky, all in all I think moto latam is doing ok.
At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?
Very good!
I will not hold my breath for this year though.
I'd like it sooner rather then later but am willing to wait until they work the bugs out.
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At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?
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At least Motorola put it in writing on official website. So, it's no longer "rumor" or Moto Support chat screenshot.
Marshmallow upgrade are listed for BOTH The XT1225 Moto Turbo is listed for India as well as the XT1225 Moto Maxx for Latin America. Yes, they are the same device, with the same FCC ID -- but Motorola gave the same phone two different model names, depending on the market where being sold. So, nice they confirmed Marshmallow for this phone for BOTH model names.
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However with XT1225 (which was first released as the "international" Moto Maxx with Kitkat 4.4.4) they also promised to bring Lollipop, but turned out to only be 5.0.2 which had lot of bugs and was laggy. (To refresh your memory, India Moto Turbo XT1225 launched with 5.0.2. Moto Maxx XT1225 soon received that same version as an upgrade from 4.4.4.) Motorola gave this premium priced device only an early version of Lollipop. They never gave us 5.1.1 which was lots better -- or even 5.1 which they gave to one of the other Quarks -- the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254. Nor have they yet released the 5.1 kernel source for the July 2015 Quark (Droid Turbo) XT1254 update, which would help CM ( @Skrilax_CZ) give us an even better 5.1.1 custom ROM...
All the current 5.1.1 custom ROMs for the XT1225 are still using 5.0.2 Quark kernel source. Besides CM12.1, the other ROMs (like Mokee, Resurrection Remix, Nexus Experience) use 5.0.2 kernel code from CM for their Quark versions, so without CM's @Skrilax_CZ (who bought an XT1225) we wouldn't have any custom ROMs for our XT1225! We can never thank him enough!
@baybutcher27 has done outstanding work -- giving us an updated OFFICIAL TWRP recovery (taking over from @respider, who had his XT1225 stolen from him), and also giving us a custom kernel. But even he built on the kernel foundation laid from CM's @Skrilax_CZ.
So, if Motorola does eventually give us Marshmallow, I hope it's at least a couple of versions of 6.0 over the next year -- and I hope they release kernel sources.
@Skrilax_CZ is really great, Motorola told him they will release a new version of quark kernel in the next few weeks.
Hope they really released it.
And that 6.0 for quark does not take 6+ months more than all other Motorola devices...
After this news it seems that Motorola will skip the 5.1.1 for MAXX and go straight to 6.0
I don't like this atitude. I work with IT myself and for god sake all those sources are on git.. look the CM system they do *automatic* builds of their roms, why? Because thats pretty much obvius, if you commit changes to the core you want all sources to be recompiled and tested. All vendors could do that. What about the fact Android IS open sourced. Whats about AOSP? This is a disrespect. You know, they could at least give you the subsequent lastest source for you to compil for you phone, like you cant have the lastest android, but I give you the abilitie to put a custom rom in you phone if you like. I not even talking about to Open de Device Drivers, wich I know they will NEVER do, but I don't mind to use a blob here and there. I have been using the nvidia driver blob on linux for years, and I can say the thing got pretty much very stable.
i like how they say we are getting it but i'll believe it when i see it
It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto
Galaxo60 said:
It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto
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If only Motorola could be more like LG:
Android Marshmallow: LG is the first non-Nexus device to get the latest Google update
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...Android-6-0-Marshmallow-LG-G4-UK-Release-Date
2015 LG G4 will be the first to get Marshmallow after the Nexus phones, but the 2014 phones won't be far behind. LG works closely with Google because they made/make Nexus phones also -- just like Motorola made last year's Moto Nexus 6.
Our Quark phones are 95% the same as the Moto Nexus 6... so, there's no excuse. The Moto Nexus 6 has Marshmallow, and so should our phones. If LG can do it so quickly, so could Motorola -- specifically for the non-carrier models where the updates come straight from Motorola.
Such a shame - the Motorola model of just adding to stock android really is the model more companies should adopt. They needed to stick it out a little longer though, it takes years to build up a brand. I have no doubt this is simply down to budget and employee cuts. They also likely screwed themselves by offering custom versions of firmware for so many different providers for each phone they make. Updating so many versions gets way out of hand quickly.
oh well, they had a good run and Lenovo could likely really make money long term but not if they don't really back the concept.
Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.
Erowind said:
Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.
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Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I'm wondering if they are still planning to even release Marshmallow for the Maxx.
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Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I hear what you're saying, and agree...but from a business perspective, it also makes sense to first get it to your larger (largest?) customer base, which may not be the XT1225 (just as the HTC M8 got it before the M9).
Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
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Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
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Which doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. We know they've PROMISED us Marshmallow. That's the problem. They still have not delivered it to us.
Motorola will not anywhere tell us WHEN we are getting Marshmallow. Yet they are rolling it out to other lower tier models.
The first post of this thread from beginning of October 2015 is about Motorola/Lenovo PROMISING us in writing the Quark will get Marshmallow. So, your remark adds nothing to the discuss we don't already know.
That official Motorola blog post was made October 2, 2015. We are now at end of January 2016. Keep counting the months...
What we are discussing is the delay and even broken promises implicit in buying the highest spec, most expensive phone Motorola makes.
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Which doesn't tell you anything we don't already know.
They've been promising since October in writing (see first post of this thread) to give us Marshmallow, yet have not yet. Keep counting the months...
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
Still, the most reliable source is that page. I'm not sure what else they can say to provide updates to the population. Also note that they don't have ETAs on that site so we could expect Marshmallow at any date, but the fact of the matter is that we WILL get the update.
It may sound repetitive to you, but it beats having OEMs that leave customers in the dark in these situations.
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India OEM XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again.
My Mexico Moto Maxx XT1225 came straight from China factory to Mexico, where it was re-shipped by an XDA member to my U.S. address. Not sold by any carrier. I received tracking updates all the way.
The India Moto Turbo XT1225 is totally factory, with no carrier affiliation.
This is why India, Brazil factory, Mexico factory Quarks received Lollipop (April 2015) before the other Quarks that were tied to carriers. Verizon Droid Turbo was the last Quark to receive Lollipop in July 2015.
I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T (and one is a backup still in the box). LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. Motorola could give me Marshmallow today by releasing it for the non-carrier phones.
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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again. I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T.
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And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
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And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
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To answer that question, look at my post IN THIS SAME THREAD from October 3, 2015:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63114883&postcount=4
I even included screenshots of the Motorola Update website. Nothing has changed since then.
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014
https://motorola-global-es-latam.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1984
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That site is almost useless, I keep telling you. All Motorola will say is YES, the international Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/U.S. Droid Turbo (most of of the Quark models) will receive Marshmallow. The same thing they said in the official blog back on October 2, 2015 -- mentioned in the first post of this thread. They've been saying that since beginning of October 2015.
WHEN they do actually roll it out -- going by past history -- the Brazil/Mexico/India OEM models will receive it first, followed by carrier-affiliated variants like Puerto Rico/Claro XT1225 and U.S. Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254.
Let me correct/clarify something I said earlier. I said the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 was the last to receive Lollipop. While that's true, one Quark NEVER officially received Lollipop -- the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers. It has identical FCC ID as the Droid Turbo -- it's a U.S.-sold non-Verizon "Droid Turbo", just released under a different model name. (The "Droid Turbo" is not exclusive to Verizon, in the U.S.) Sold in the U.S., has the exact same LTE bands as the Droid Turbo, with fully unlock-able bootloader (FREE) via Motorola website. Lots of people bought it, rooted it, ran it on Verizon long before the Sunshine bootloader unlock method became available for the Droid Turbo. It's basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo, but you can't buy it from Verizon. But Motorola left the XT1250 on Kitkat 4.4.4. Of course, rooting it and installing a 5.1.1 custom ROM trumps that.
But the fact that Motorola completely abandoned one Quark -- the highest spec phone they sold -- proves my point that they cannot be trusted. That Quark, the XT1250 was called the Moto Maxx, is not even included in the Marshmallow promise. It's not listed under the U.S. phone section.
Yes, my "international" XT1225 phones (3 of them!) will EVENTUALLY get Marshmallow. But WHEN? Motorola is delaying it as much as possible, it seems. We're just complaining about that, and wondering WHY. I paid average of $700 each for my first two Quarks, when first released. I recently bought a 3rd XT1225 for much less, but of course it's now a year later. Just have it as a backup -- as I'm not impressed by the Kinzie successor (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play). This phone was the best phone when released in 2014 and is still the best for me. I have an LG G4 I got for free, still in the box as this phone meets my needs so much better.
Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.
I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.
I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:
This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.
People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
JulesJam said:
The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.
For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
OrenGazala said:
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.
Does anyone have any idea as to when the XT1575 version of the Moto X Pure Edition will receive Android 6.0.1? I know the XT1572 version has received it, how much of a difference can there really be between those to.
Not much as many of us are running it now. You know as much as anyone here when it will be released.
I agree that it is irritating as it is almost exactly identical. Especially considering that there is no carrier control involved... Not directly that we can see anyway. With so many US phones being carrier controlled though, I imagine the focus is put into international models first. Hoping that North American carriers will start losing their grip on locked out devices.
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Not all 1572s have had the update. I'm in the UK with a ret (retail - no carrier) model and still no update :crying: Feeling quite let down.
My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.
gamer765 said:
My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.
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Hey that's great. I have several other question for you while you have the crystal ball out.
Seriously though, pretty frustrating that Motorola/Lenovo is taking so long to update their last "flagship" device. I realize they are working on their new 2016 models, but come on, if Samsung is beating them at updates, that is pretty sad.
The price has dropped to $349 on the Motorola website for the 32GB model..
Just thought I would leave this here, as one of the selling "features" of the Moto X Pure Edition direct from the website:
Pure Android™ experience and helpful Moto Enhancements
Boost performance, receive upgrades faster, and teach your phone how to work best for you.
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as anybody got a clue when the nougat update will be rolling out to the moto G4 and was wondering if it will be any longer this time around since lenovo owns motorola compared to last year which say the moto devices receive the marshmallow update rather fast thanks.
I've seen some estimates that say from the end of this year to sometimes early next year. Motorola is pretty good with pushing the updates out so I would expect 3 to 4 months from June when "N" was released. If it's a branded Moto, then it's anyone's guess since the service providers aren't too speedy with updates.