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anyone have any idea when the fascinate will be released?
I heard mid august, wish it was sooner cause I'm bummed about the droud x bein locked down
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Verizon will probably release it like one day after the 30 day mark of the Droid X, so people that are mad at how locked down it is can't swap it to the Fascinate. Wouldn't surprise me. Makes me hesitant to buy the Droid X, since I'm kind of wanting the Fascinate, but am anxious for a new phone.
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I heard mid august, wish it was sooner cause I'm bummed about the droud x bein locked down
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I'm kinda new to the android scene. what does it mean to be locked down? that it can't be rooted?
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I'm kinda new to the android scene. what does it mean to be locked down? that it can't be rooted?
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Motorola is doing absolutely everything in their power to make the Droid X as restricted as possible, in terms of the Android hacking community getting root access to it. The current most accurate estimate until root access is achieved for the Droid X is "at least 4 months", according to Birdman. Cracking the bootloader (which is necessary to use any custom ROMs) may never be achieved. Motorola is really screwing the pooch here and making a lot of fans of the original Droid unhappy.
Samsung, on the other hand, has embraced the Android hacking community. The bootloader is completely open and accessible, and root was achieved very easily. The huge Galaxy S release around the world and with all the major cell providers in the U.S. might very well catapult Samsung to the top of the list for cell phone manufacturers, which is no easy feat; time will tell. One thing is for sure: there will be a TON of Galaxy S accessories available, and it will have a gigantic hacking community before long. I'm pretty impressed with their Galaxy S launch; not only is it huge and (I think) the biggest phone launch ever by anyone, but the fact that they've managed to keep the phone "wide open" to the hacking community really shows they're in it for the customer and not JUST money. (or rather, they're in it for the money via pleasing their customers)
OP, how about putting a question mark after the title of the thread to indicate your are asking a question here. Otherwise people are lead to believe you know the release the date.
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OP, how about putting a question mark after the title of the thread to indicate your are asking a question here. Otherwise people are lead to believe you know the release the date.
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lol my bad. it's fixed
att started dishin theirs out today ahead of schedule. non contract price is 350 for us. check with ur local v store to see if ur galaxy is also gettin put out early.
No mention of a release date anywhere...
ive emailed both samsung and vzw, neither will give me any info as to release date
vzw only said that there are new phones being tested to see how they work on thier network
hmmmmmmmm they could be purposely delaying it to give their new droid breathing room. sorry guys
I wouldn't doubt their holding off on releasing this. The Droidx and droid2 are supposed to be their money makers so why throw this phone in the middle and muck up the sales on the other two. They could also be trying to lock it down who knows. All I know is I want this phone
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Yesterday we showed you Verizon’s leaked summer catalog. And while it did feature some usual suspects, such as the Motorola Droid X, and even a yet-unannounced smartphone, the Motorola Droid 2, one device was strangely missing from it.
The formally announced Samsung Fascinate, Verizon’s very own Galaxy S, was nowhere to be found in the catalog, hinting to public availability post-summer season.
And now it looks like, indeed, this may be the last-to-launch of all the different Galaxy S variations to show up in the US
Verizon’s official comment on the Fascinate’s release date now states a “late summer or early fall” possibility. And judging from the construction of that phrase, fall availability seems the most plausible right now.
It's unfortunate, but it makes sense that Verizon would hold off in order to sell more Droids
read that att launched its galaxy s version on sunday
I don't get this at all. what the hell does vzw care which phone it sells as long as its selling them. Having such a large customer base they could really lead the way by putting out phone after phone while sprint & att try to keep up.
rumor has the droid 2 for august 23rd release, with android 2.2
so that pushes the fascinate out until sept if they keep staggering
Verizon really pisses me off with this, since they can't keep up with demand on the DroidX or the Incredible they should have a high end Android phone to offer their customers. I really don't understand the rumored 2Gb internal memory either, it's a high end device and all the other Galaxy's have 16Gb if I remember correctly. I played with the AT&T version and it is a great phone, same overall size as my Droid but alot thinner...just feels good in your hand.
read somewhere that motorola and Verizon committed over $100,000,000 (one hundred million) dollars in advertising for the droid. motorola needs the droid's to do well or they'll have to leave this industry shortly. This is the last hope for them. They dropped the ball with the evolution of phones to smartphones. And the Droids are their last gasp. So just like ATT won't advertise the captivate on T.V. or thier website. Don't expect Verizon to advertise it either.
Samsung Fascinate is so much more appealing to me than any of the droid series right now.
Maybe Verizon should ditch motorola and make a deal with samsung
It seems like there are threads on release dates for many countries except the U.S! So this thread is for people with any information on the release date in the states. =)
I hear ya, I'm am so ready to buy this phone... now if t-mobile usa would speed up the process a bit I could quit driving my wife crazy surfing for anything related to the GS2
What we need to do is to create an online group for wives of phone addict xda members who can't stop researching new devices and roms. Then, they'll spend all day on that forum and won't notice we're ignoring them. My wife just doesn't understand that I NEED this phone on T-Mobile.
I hope you guys get it soon... just like us up north here in canada... but as for tmob getting it... the current international version doesn't have AWS support so that may hold it up a tad for them... just like WIND here... hope that doesn't burst a bubble... and if you already knew that... sorry!
This guy will do T-Mobile 3G, cough cough, 4G? It's a plus device?
It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
I may have missed it, but is AT&T going to be getting this phone?
I keep hearing about tmobile but no AT&T talk. If not then i am going to be very very sad.
to my knowledge AT&T's bands are supported on the international version and as a result if carriers are smart and release the actual model and don't demand variants then you should be in the clear
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It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
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That's really ****ty if they hold it off till July considering the rest of the world get's it in about a week or two.
I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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Indeed. I'm ready for one, NOW, to use with T-Mobile. Group buy, perhaps?
It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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I'm almost positive the SGSII will be available on all carriers it's just a matter of timing on the release just like it's predecessor =).
Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May. Now how long into may or if it gets released is the question. Right now I'm looking to upgrade to a smartphone and grandfather in.
So far Galaxy S 2 is looking pretty sweet and I want it
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Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May....
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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Well so far, all the phones on that list have been released at about the right time :O, so not really sure if it's april fools joke. The list had specific dates for all the other phones except for instance bionic/galaxy s 2, where it said "May" for their releases.
I'm hoping for the may release so I can get grandfathered in with the Galaxy s 2 !!!!!! *crosses fingers**
I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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and that is exactly why I created that thread about SGS3, but people are just laughing there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049529
Since SGS2 may not even penetrate the market by the Fall of 2011, it is possible the US carriers will just skip SGS2 and go straight for SGS3.
I hope not because then we won't get the SGS2 this fall and will have to wait until February 2012 before the US carriers get around to destroying the device with useless and unwanted carrier changes and blotware and finally release the GS3 to NA that came out in the UK in September lol
I wish Samsung, HTC, Motorola and the other major players would just stand up to the US carriers and say "This device hits the market internationally in May you have until then to do what ever modifications you feel necessary and send the device to us to verify it meets our QA to ensure they don't cut corners to meet the deadline. If you don't have your modifications done by that time you have to release the device the way it was intended free of carrier modifications. If you don't comply with this then you won't get a flagship device that is required to meet your sales goal for the quarter and compete with other carriers that meet these requirements and have our flagship devices available"
How hard would that be, the carriers HAVE to have the newest flagship devices to complete in the high end market if the device manufactures would start throwing their weight around and refuse to release devices to the US market the carriers would have no choice but to back down. Sure that would mean an initial delay in the US for some devices while the carriers cry about not getting their way but eventually they would have no choice but to give in and then then the NA market not only gets all of our future devices in a reasonable time frame they aren't all ruined by the carriers petty attempt to stand out from each other. I don't know about anyone else but personally I would be willing to not have the SGS2 available if it meant I got the SGS3 when it was released in the UK free of carrier modifications and bloatware and that is ultimatly what this would come down to. The NA market misses a generation of top end devices but in return starting with the generation after that we don't have any more of this BS. I can suffer a little in the short term for a worth while long term reward. Plus I would bet money the smaller carriers who are trying to take a chunk out of the big guys market would love the chance to pick up flagship devices that the 3 major carriers missed out on because they wouldn't leave the device alone and just release it so it isn't like the devices would be totally unavailable you could still always get it from say Boost or T-Mobile who are more worried about customer satisfaction than adding bloatware and acting like a petty child who has to try and make his new toy "better" than the other kids or buy the international version and add it to a supported US network like many are doing with the SGS2
Samsung Galaxy S2 owners who bought their device SIM-free are at the back of the UK Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade queue, Samsung has confirmed to CNET UK.
And the reason you've been kept waiting? It's because Samsung is waiting for some mobile networks to finish testing the update, so it can be sure the software will work whatever network you're on.
SIM-free S2 owners will get the ICS update "once we've got all of the operator pieces on board", said Simon Stanford, VP of Samsung Telecommunications and Networks for Samsung UK and Ireland, speaking exclusively to CNET UK today.
The upgrade process Samsung has used to push out ICS to S2 owners means SIM-free devices can't be updated until all mobile networks have tested and approved ICS -- and since some operators are still testing and approving the update, some SIM-free S2 owners are still waiting to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
'It's got to work'
"We work in conjunction with our partners to bring ICS to the existing base -- that's primarily what needs to happen, whatever network operator that may be," said Stanford. "In this particular instance, the open market variant [ie SIM-free] you would expect to come out first."
Stanford confirmed, however, SIM-free S2 owners have been left twisting in the wind. "As an open-market customer you will be on a variety of networks, so it's got to work on whichever network you have chosen," he said.
SIM-free S2 owners -- many of whom shelled out extra upfront for an unlocked handset in the hopes of being at the front of the upgrade queue -- have in fact trailed operators such as Three, which was the first operator to release the ICS update. O2 has also now pushed out the ICS update.
"We were working with our operators to make sure that we brought it out to as many people as we can," Stanford added. "Vodafone we're expecting imminently [to release ICS]. Open market will be once we've got all of the operator pieces on board... It'll come at very much the same time."
'We don't want to disadvantage anyone'
Stanford would not confirm exactly how many SIM-free S2 owners have received the ICS update so far, nor give a completion date for the ICS update rollout -- he would only say: "We're really pushing it hard over the next coming weeks."
"It's always very tight, in terms of the testing processes and all the rest of it," he said. "It's not a switch in Korea and then the whole thing just activates every device that is out there... We work very closely with the networks to help them get ICS out.
"Everyone holds their hands up and says, 'Well, we need to do more in these instances.'"
Asked whether consumers would be better off buying a device from a network rather than SIM-free if they want to ensure they get future Android updates promptly, Stanford said: "In this instance [they would have been better off on a network]. Moving forward, I anticipate the upgrades will come a lot faster, at once, with everybody."
He added that it's not Samsung's intention to prioritise SIM-free device buyers in future, rather it wants to level the playing field so everyone gets the update around the same time.
"We don't want to disadvantage anyone, we don't want to say that they have to buy it from anywhere, we want everyone to have the same experience, whether or not it's open-market, network, to us they're exactly the same," he said.
'Communication can be managed better next time'
Stanford conceded that communications is an area where Samsung can make its own improvements. And he apologised to any SIM-free S2 owners who have been disappointed by how long it's taken to get ICS.
"The communication itself can be managed a bit better next time," he said. "It's just an ongoing process piece that we work very closely on to try and make sure we get it absolutely bang on so we apologise to anyone -- we really apologise to anyone -- who has been disappointed by this.
"We're always desperate to get [updates] out as fast as we can, there's no reason for us not to. We don't like to have unhappy customers, it goes against everything that we do. We do take it very seriously. It's communication sometimes we need to work on -- I accept that. That there needs to be perhaps more overall communication with the partners involved as well," he said.
"We are happy now that ICS is rolling out and those people that we've spoken to are very happy with it," Stanford added. "We're always looking for ways to speed it up -- with regards to Galaxy Note... the upgrade on that will be a lot quicker."
Are you still waiting for your SIM-free S2 to be upgraded to ICS? Let us know in the comments, or post your own update over on our Facebook page, and watch my video below to see what you're missing.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/galaxy-s2-sim-free-owners-last-to-get-ics-samsung-admits-50007550/
We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.
Teppic24 said:
We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.
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I have unlcoked phone and i will just keep flashing other country firmwares untill samsung finsh testing it on all these networks
This is a joke in all fairness, however if you're on XDA there's no reason why this should affect your ability to get hold of ICS.
But, for the majority of the population (who aren't on XDA) this is just unforgivable.
Worth waiting for a finished ICS six months down the line . No way will i change to the current half baked versions .
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No issues on xlpq with Orange sim on Carphone Warehouse SII
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Network testing haha. Why have other countries got the unbranded update straight away ? But here in the uk we wait for the networks to test. I think uk networks have some sort of deal with samsung or it maybe to do with sgs3. But "waiting for networks to test" jus isnt gna fly cz that a lie.
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This really is a sorry excuse for logic. To really follow it would mean Samsung UK has to wait till ALL cellular carriers around the world confirm the UK SGS2 SIM-Free ICS update works with their networks?!
Otherwise, there *might* be some unfortunate UK SGS2 SIM-Free owner running ICS that encounters problems when he moves to Timbuktu and use his phone with the local cell network!
Samsung UK... YOU SUCK!
Does suck but how many ordinary citizens even know about ice cream sandwich, most people don't have a clue I bet a lot of people are still on the original firmwares that shipped with the phone. My sister wanted to go back to gingerbread as she thinks battery life on ICS sucked even though she got the official O2 update.
So for normal citizens who use a phone without worrying about updates this won't effect them but for us and other geeks and such its bothersome but hey that's why we come here and flash whatever comes our way from other countries regardless if it's final or not or buggy but because we can.
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Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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Can anyone comment which is the best ICS stock unbranded FW version to use with SpoofFW on SGS2 XEU?
Poland, Russia, Luxemburg, Baltics, Cyprus...? Does it even matter?
cc999 said:
Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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...because it's an amazing phone, one of the best available
cc999 said:
Unbelievable! Why did I spend 650 dollars!
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You spent the money on great hardware and rock solid gingerbread.
Free software upgrades to a complete new system are a relatively new thing. You can expect / demand updates to GB but to ICS I don't think so.
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Love the why did I spend money comments! And this update is FREE, remember when apple was charging to get the ios 3.0 update? Give it a rest, and if your sooooo adamant on getting ics, there are many available downloads right here on these pages. Otherwise, the 1% of s2 owners on this forum aren't going to make a blip on samsungs radar when the 19,999,000 are happy with there phones.
Relax, be happy, there are worse things going on in the world at the moment.
Have a nice day
Hey, I also sent this from my Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk..
If you look at it another way, Samsung are using everyone else as unpaid beta testers, so us unbranded people get a polished update. (Ok, I bought mine from T-Mobile, but I'm running an unbranded firmware.)
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We're all boned then. Orange can, and do, take months to release any updates, if they can even be bothered! They'll need to make sure that every last stinking piece of their foul bloatware can work on ICS.
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and? Just upgrade your phone now to ICS like I did
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ICS came out last year and 5 months waiting for what?
By the time we get ICS google is gonna release Jelly Bean and we are gonna be excited for a sec and then remember when we actually got ICS and be sad for another year until we get all new phones and same **** happens...
Amazing world we live in
What a load of crap.
Unbranded updates for Galaxy S and SII always came either first or alongside Optus release, here in Australia - Telstra only just released 2.3.6 last month and the rest of the carriers and unbranded was released many months ago.
It just doesn't add up. Track record shows this excuse is a total load of bs.
Why the hell isn't Samsung responsible for testing the carriers? For example Samsung Australia division should be totally responsible for testing the Unbranded version of all 4 carrier networks. These phones are not even sold by the carriers so it's not their responsibility !!
This is so damn lazy of Samsung.
Yeah right. They just dont want the carriers to ***** that others are getting the update before their customers are. Just like how they didnt want to make sure every carriers phone were working ok before selling people this device unlocked and just how they didnt care to update people after 2.3.4. My phone has had problems since then and samsung hasnt cared to update. This just leaves a bad taste in my mouth from samsung. I wanted the S3 but I dont even know if I want to buy a phone they arent going to update.
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Markbaja said:
Love the why did I spend money comments! And this update is FREE, remember when apple was charging to get the ios 3.0 update?
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That never happened. They never charged.
TheReverend210 said:
If you look at it another way, Samsung are using everyone else as unpaid beta testers, so us unbranded people get a polished update. (Ok, I bought mine from T-Mobile, but I'm running an unbranded firmware.)
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Yeah right. Unbranded devices never got updated past 2.3.4 and its been buggy. Anytime I restart my phone the icons move around and I have to move them back. Dont think you a moment you are getting a more polished update. You are getting the same update that has been psoted on here from some random carrier from a country you probably have never heard it. Pathetic Samsung. They even lied to us saying we would have it by the end of Q1.
Samsung UK are crap, exactly the same as when our GS2 was stuck on 2.3.3 and I knew for a fact that newer ones with the same product code were shipping with, or updating to 2.3.4, and all they kept saying was no update was available, just vecause they couldn't be bothered to fix the original HIDSWVER that they'd forgotten to add updates for.
In the end last weekend I flashed the Polish LPS onto it as it kept locking up, seems to be ok now. And the Polish LPS one includes the generic UK (XEU) and generic CPW UK (CPW), csc customisation packs anyway, so no reason at all for Samsung UK to be making up this BS. It even comes with all the UK network APN settings preloaded in it. I've never seen an unbranded update come after branded ones until this mess. Same as O2 on 2.3.6 with Gingerbread, and unbranded on 2.3.4 (or in my case 2.3.3). People buy unbranded to get a clean update, not to wait for all the branded crap to be tested.
We can expect this treatment with the galaxy note for sure...
Samsung Galaxy S2 owners who bought their device SIM-free are at the back of the UK Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade queue, Samsung has confirmed to CNET UK.
And the reason you've been kept waiting? It's because Samsung is waiting for some mobile networks to finish testing the update, so it can be sure the software will work whatever network you're on.
SIM-free S2 owners will get the ICS update "once we've got all of the operator pieces on board", said Simon Stanford, VP of Samsung Telecommunications and Networks for Samsung UK and Ireland, speaking exclusively to CNET UK today.
The upgrade process Samsung has used to push out ICS to S2 owners means SIM-free devices can't be updated until all mobile networks have tested and approved ICS -- and since some operators are still testing and approving the update, some SIM-free S2 owners are still waiting to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
'It's got to work'
"We work in conjunction with our partners to bring ICS to the existing base -- that's primarily what needs to happen, whatever network operator that may be," said Stanford. "In this particular instance, the open market variant [ie SIM-free] you would expect to come out first."
Stanford confirmed, however, SIM-free S2 owners have been left twisting in the wind. "As an open-market customer you will be on a variety of networks, so it's got to work on whichever network you have chosen," he said.
SIM-free S2 owners -- many of whom shelled out extra upfront for an unlocked handset in the hopes of being at the front of the upgrade queue -- have in fact trailed operators such as Three, which was the first operator to release the ICS update. O2 has also now pushed out the ICS update.
"We were working with our operators to make sure that we brought it out to as many people as we can," Stanford added. "Vodafone we're expecting imminently [to release ICS]. Open market will be once we've got all of the operator pieces on board... It'll come at very much the same time."
'We don't want to disadvantage anyone'
Stanford would not confirm exactly how many SIM-free S2 owners have received the ICS update so far, nor give a completion date for the ICS update rollout -- he would only say: "We're really pushing it hard over the next coming weeks."
"It's always very tight, in terms of the testing processes and all the rest of it," he said. "It's not a switch in Korea and then the whole thing just activates every device that is out there... We work very closely with the networks to help them get ICS out.
"Everyone holds their hands up and says, 'Well, we need to do more in these instances.'"
Asked whether consumers would be better off buying a device from a network rather than SIM-free if they want to ensure they get future Android updates promptly, Stanford said: "In this instance [they would have been better off on a network]. Moving forward, I anticipate the upgrades will come a lot faster, at once, with everybody."
He added that it's not Samsung's intention to prioritise SIM-free device buyers in future, rather it wants to level the playing field so everyone gets the update around the same time.
"We don't want to disadvantage anyone, we don't want to say that they have to buy it from anywhere, we want everyone to have the same experience, whether or not it's open-market, network, to us they're exactly the same," he said.
'Communication can be managed better next time'
Stanford conceded that communications is an area where Samsung can make its own improvements. And he apologised to any SIM-free S2 owners who have been disappointed by how long it's taken to get ICS.
"The communication itself can be managed a bit better next time," he said. "It's just an ongoing process piece that we work very closely on to try and make sure we get it absolutely bang on so we apologise to anyone -- we really apologise to anyone -- who has been disappointed by this.
"We're always desperate to get [updates] out as fast as we can, there's no reason for us not to. We don't like to have unhappy customers, it goes against everything that we do. We do take it very seriously. It's communication sometimes we need to work on -- I accept that. That there needs to be perhaps more overall communication with the partners involved as well," he said.
"We are happy now that ICS is rolling out and those people that we've spoken to are very happy with it," Stanford added. "We're always looking for ways to speed it up -- with regards to Galaxy Note... the upgrade on that will be a lot quicker."
Guys, do you believe them?
I don't!
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Doesn't matter. We just need the update file and we can upgrade our phones ourselves using CWM, Odin, or whatever. I'm definitely on an unlocked International Note in the USA, so if whatever country comes out with official ICS first, most definitely our devs will get it to us quickly.
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adelmundo said:
Doesn't matter. We just need the update file and we can upgrade our phones ourselves using CWM, Odin, or whatever. I'm definitely on an unlocked International Note in the USA, so if whatever country comes out with official ICS first, most definitely our devs will get it to us quickly.
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If I've learned anything with android
When you buy a phone you better like the software version that's on it when you open the box..
It basically sounds like he is saying "We want to release as close to the same time so we will hold back sim free users till carries get done testing"
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numbnutsuk said:
He added that it's not Samsung's intention to prioritise SIM-free device buyers in future, rather it wants to level the playing field so everyone gets the update around the same time.
"We don't want to disadvantage anyone, we don't want to say that they have to buy it from anywhere, we want everyone to have the same experience, whether or not it's open-market, network, to us they're exactly the same," he said.
'Communication can be managed better next time'
Stanford conceded that communications is an area where Samsung can make its own improvements. And he apologised to any SIM-free S2 owners who have
"We are happy now that ICS is rolling out and those people that we've spoken to are very happy with it," Stanford added. "We're always looking for ways to speed it up -- with regards to Galaxy Note... the upgrade on that will be a lot quicker."
Guys, do you believe them?
I don't!
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Yes, I believe them.
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It makes a lot of sense.
Samsung dont roll out the new OS, the network operators do and they will only do that when they're ready to support the new OS.
Imagine the chaos and how pissed off the telco's would be if the hardware manufacturers rolled out software updates willy nilly and the telco's started to get flooded with support calls for issues created by a patch they didn't know about or hadn't trained their staff to deal with.
It doesnt worry me at all... once the first Telco releases an official ICS update I'm likely to get it and install it.
Regardless of which telco it was (actually I'd probably not install a Chinese or Saudi etc ROM... I don't trust those Gov's enough.).
My telco doesn't even sell or support the note yet... it hasn't slowed me down one iota and if you're even slightly savvy enough it wont slow you down either.
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This makes sense to me.
As I understand it, he is talking about OTA updates.
ie. regular Joe Blow customers that will update their phone when their phone tells them to update.
The networks can push it out to their customers first. Make sure it works on all networks, and then anyone left over will get it after that via Kies.
If you want to update your device earlier, you can upgrade it manually by downloading the upgrade yourself, but for the average user, it won't worry them and they'll upgrade when their phone tells them to.
All i can say is "meh". We need a leak of some kind. Give us that and i'll be rocking AOSP as long as my Note is pumping blood electricity through its veins.
The current ics roms are fine for me.... Maybe once the new premium suite comes out I'll try it for a little, but right now I don't really care how long it takes because I have something just as good if not better :thumbup:
If waiting a little longer for more stability and smoothness is all I have to do then I am fine with it. I am very satisfied with gingerbread as it is now.
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I wonder if a lot of people will flog their note cos of this and get the new iphone 5?
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That's kinda obvious. If the release is dependent on networks ( cause they need to test it ), it's clear that they will test and release "their" firmware first, and the one for evil guys who didn't buy a phone from them - will get it last.
But it doesn't really matter, does it ? We need at least one official release, for any network - cause frankly what we need most is the kernel, the rest they can stick up their.... Joking of course, but for good AOSP we really need just the kernel.
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"I wonder if a lot of people will flog their note cos of this and get the new iphone 5?"
I wonder what they'll introduce in iPhone 5, cause their latest releases were like "1-2 new features".
I actually don't believe this because Samsung, or any other company, develops their software and then offers it to the carriers to test their devices with the software. In the end it's the telecom operator that decides if the device will get the software that the developer has developed / offered.
Sim unlocked phones don't follow any carrier's decision, they get whatever the manufacturer decides.
I have a SIM unlocked Note, that came from Germany, and all I know is that of all the Notes that came out here, I know that the German unlocked devices have been the first to get OTA updates from Samsung.
I'm sure if Samsung deems a release acceptable, they will push it to their devices as well as offer it to the carriers. We get the updates faster because we actually cut out the middleman. It's months faster than buying a carrier locked device because the carrier doesn't need to accept the update. So I actually don't believe that they will update all the carriers before their own devices.
It's like Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream offering NEW flavors to Costco, Walmart and other stores before offering the new flavors in their own stores. Or Apple releasing new devices to Bestbuy before offering them online / in their own retail stores.
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I actually don't believe this because Samsung, or any other company, develops their software and then offers it to the carriers to test their devices with the software. In the end it's the telecom operator that decides if the device will get the software that the developer has developed / offered.
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Samsung just need to know if their ics works on the different operators network, nothing more. If an operator dont want to release the new ics, its just fine, it doesnt mean that its not compatible with their networks.
Just imagine, with all the different countries selling samsung mobiles, if the fact that a network operator decides he wont release an update can block the release for sim-free mobile, then we'll never get any official upgrade.
That's why unlock device always get update quick.
ARE there carrier locked versions in the UK? I got mine on o2, and I got the simfree version. Possibly because I went through phones 4u, however.
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ARE there carrier locked versions in the UK? I got mine on o2, and I got the simfree version. Possibly because I went through phones 4u, however.
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I dont think that even matters for us. AT&T got another model, but here we all have the same stuff. I bought mine unlocked but branded. I just flashed official unbranded stock rom and voila, non-carrier Note.
I wonder how long now till us Moto G4 owners get the update... I'm not expecting too long though. Will the Moto G4 Prime Exclusive Edition (which I have) even receive this update? I guess only time will tell.
stefanorickeets said:
I wonder how long now till us Moto G4 owners get the update... I'm not expecting too long though. Will the Moto G4 Prime Exclusive Edition (which I have) even receive this update? I guess only time will tell.
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I think you answered your own question. I would expect after the first of the year but it could be sooner. I would think the Amazon edition will get it but it may roll out at a different time than other phones. Companies like them and Consumer Cellular that distribute their own version have some say so as to when updates are released since they also provide some software tech support. (Though not much if you've ever called them)