At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?
Very good!
I will not hold my breath for this year though.
I'd like it sooner rather then later but am willing to wait until they work the bugs out.
mathab said:
At least thats what they say....
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html
What do you think? Would we be able to run Marshmallow before end of year? Maybe early next year? Or would we be the new Atrix HD?
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At least Motorola put it in writing on official website. So, it's no longer "rumor" or Moto Support chat screenshot.
Marshmallow upgrade are listed for BOTH The XT1225 Moto Turbo is listed for India as well as the XT1225 Moto Maxx for Latin America. Yes, they are the same device, with the same FCC ID -- but Motorola gave the same phone two different model names, depending on the market where being sold. So, nice they confirmed Marshmallow for this phone for BOTH model names.
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014
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However with XT1225 (which was first released as the "international" Moto Maxx with Kitkat 4.4.4) they also promised to bring Lollipop, but turned out to only be 5.0.2 which had lot of bugs and was laggy. (To refresh your memory, India Moto Turbo XT1225 launched with 5.0.2. Moto Maxx XT1225 soon received that same version as an upgrade from 4.4.4.) Motorola gave this premium priced device only an early version of Lollipop. They never gave us 5.1.1 which was lots better -- or even 5.1 which they gave to one of the other Quarks -- the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254. Nor have they yet released the 5.1 kernel source for the July 2015 Quark (Droid Turbo) XT1254 update, which would help CM ( @Skrilax_CZ) give us an even better 5.1.1 custom ROM...
All the current 5.1.1 custom ROMs for the XT1225 are still using 5.0.2 Quark kernel source. Besides CM12.1, the other ROMs (like Mokee, Resurrection Remix, Nexus Experience) use 5.0.2 kernel code from CM for their Quark versions, so without CM's @Skrilax_CZ (who bought an XT1225) we wouldn't have any custom ROMs for our XT1225! We can never thank him enough!
@baybutcher27 has done outstanding work -- giving us an updated OFFICIAL TWRP recovery (taking over from @respider, who had his XT1225 stolen from him), and also giving us a custom kernel. But even he built on the kernel foundation laid from CM's @Skrilax_CZ.
So, if Motorola does eventually give us Marshmallow, I hope it's at least a couple of versions of 6.0 over the next year -- and I hope they release kernel sources.
@Skrilax_CZ is really great, Motorola told him they will release a new version of quark kernel in the next few weeks.
Hope they really released it.
And that 6.0 for quark does not take 6+ months more than all other Motorola devices...
After this news it seems that Motorola will skip the 5.1.1 for MAXX and go straight to 6.0
I don't like this atitude. I work with IT myself and for god sake all those sources are on git.. look the CM system they do *automatic* builds of their roms, why? Because thats pretty much obvius, if you commit changes to the core you want all sources to be recompiled and tested. All vendors could do that. What about the fact Android IS open sourced. Whats about AOSP? This is a disrespect. You know, they could at least give you the subsequent lastest source for you to compil for you phone, like you cant have the lastest android, but I give you the abilitie to put a custom rom in you phone if you like. I not even talking about to Open de Device Drivers, wich I know they will NEVER do, but I don't mind to use a blob here and there. I have been using the nvidia driver blob on linux for years, and I can say the thing got pretty much very stable.
i like how they say we are getting it but i'll believe it when i see it
It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto
Galaxo60 said:
It seems that media is start to pushing Motorola:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/15/motorola-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-you/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/08/an-open-letter-to-motorola-start-promising-a-concrete-period-of-update-support-to-your-customers-or-start-losing-them/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2923622/android/android-upgrade-report-card-lollipop.html?page=2#moto
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If only Motorola could be more like LG:
Android Marshmallow: LG is the first non-Nexus device to get the latest Google update
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...Android-6-0-Marshmallow-LG-G4-UK-Release-Date
2015 LG G4 will be the first to get Marshmallow after the Nexus phones, but the 2014 phones won't be far behind. LG works closely with Google because they made/make Nexus phones also -- just like Motorola made last year's Moto Nexus 6.
Our Quark phones are 95% the same as the Moto Nexus 6... so, there's no excuse. The Moto Nexus 6 has Marshmallow, and so should our phones. If LG can do it so quickly, so could Motorola -- specifically for the non-carrier models where the updates come straight from Motorola.
Such a shame - the Motorola model of just adding to stock android really is the model more companies should adopt. They needed to stick it out a little longer though, it takes years to build up a brand. I have no doubt this is simply down to budget and employee cuts. They also likely screwed themselves by offering custom versions of firmware for so many different providers for each phone they make. Updating so many versions gets way out of hand quickly.
oh well, they had a good run and Lenovo could likely really make money long term but not if they don't really back the concept.
Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.
Erowind said:
Altough Moto Maxx is a expensive top model it's being trated consecutively by Lenovo/Motorola worse then many of their mid range models.
I expect it to get Marshmallow after all their other models have it.
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Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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Yeah, it's like Motorola/Lenovo (or someone important in the company) hates their own Quark phone because it made all their other models look pathetic. So, they ignore this phone so they can make more money on all their mediocre mid-tier and lower-tier phones with higher margins. Moto G? HA!
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I'm wondering if they are still planning to even release Marshmallow for the Maxx.
ChazzMatt said:
Their top tier 2014/2015 phone (Moto Turbo XT1225 was launched in March 2015, in India) should have been the FIRST phone after maybe the Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto Play) to get Marshmallow. Instead it will be the LAST.
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I hear what you're saying, and agree...but from a business perspective, it also makes sense to first get it to your larger (largest?) customer base, which may not be the XT1225 (just as the HTC M8 got it before the M9).
Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
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Too much conspiracy. For solid facts and news instead of rumors and speculation, go to Motorola's update page to see status on upcoming updates for each Motorola device.
Sent from my DROID Turbo using Tapatalk
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Which doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. We know they've PROMISED us Marshmallow. That's the problem. They still have not delivered it to us.
Motorola will not anywhere tell us WHEN we are getting Marshmallow. Yet they are rolling it out to other lower tier models.
The first post of this thread from beginning of October 2015 is about Motorola/Lenovo PROMISING us in writing the Quark will get Marshmallow. So, your remark adds nothing to the discuss we don't already know.
That official Motorola blog post was made October 2, 2015. We are now at end of January 2016. Keep counting the months...
What we are discussing is the delay and even broken promises implicit in buying the highest spec, most expensive phone Motorola makes.
ChazzMatt said:
Which doesn't tell you anything we don't already know.
They've been promising since October in writing (see first post of this thread) to give us Marshmallow, yet have not yet. Keep counting the months...
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
Still, the most reliable source is that page. I'm not sure what else they can say to provide updates to the population. Also note that they don't have ETAs on that site so we could expect Marshmallow at any date, but the fact of the matter is that we WILL get the update.
It may sound repetitive to you, but it beats having OEMs that leave customers in the dark in these situations.
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It's still pending carrier support as per Moto site. The purpose of the site is to provide updates to eliminate what's going on in this thread.
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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India OEM XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again.
My Mexico Moto Maxx XT1225 came straight from China factory to Mexico, where it was re-shipped by an XDA member to my U.S. address. Not sold by any carrier. I received tracking updates all the way.
The India Moto Turbo XT1225 is totally factory, with no carrier affiliation.
This is why India, Brazil factory, Mexico factory Quarks received Lollipop (April 2015) before the other Quarks that were tied to carriers. Verizon Droid Turbo was the last Quark to receive Lollipop in July 2015.
I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T (and one is a backup still in the box). LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. Motorola could give me Marshmallow today by releasing it for the non-carrier phones.
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Most of the Quarks do NOT need carrier support. The Brazil, Mexico and India XT1225 were sold directly from the factory. Updates come straight from Motorola. Try again. I own three XT225, running two of them as daily phones on AT&T.
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And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
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richii0207 said:
And does Motorola provide information about those variants? I was solely talking about the Droid Turbo(VZW). Perhaps if you go on their site and look it up, you'll get your answers for your phones. Patience...
Sent from my DROID Turbo using Tapatalk
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To answer that question, look at my post IN THIS SAME THREAD from October 3, 2015:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63114883&postcount=4
I even included screenshots of the Motorola Update website. Nothing has changed since then.
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/2014
https://motorola-global-es-latam.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1984
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That site is almost useless, I keep telling you. All Motorola will say is YES, the international Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/U.S. Droid Turbo (most of of the Quark models) will receive Marshmallow. The same thing they said in the official blog back on October 2, 2015 -- mentioned in the first post of this thread. They've been saying that since beginning of October 2015.
WHEN they do actually roll it out -- going by past history -- the Brazil/Mexico/India OEM models will receive it first, followed by carrier-affiliated variants like Puerto Rico/Claro XT1225 and U.S. Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254.
Let me correct/clarify something I said earlier. I said the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 was the last to receive Lollipop. While that's true, one Quark NEVER officially received Lollipop -- the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers. It has identical FCC ID as the Droid Turbo -- it's a U.S.-sold non-Verizon "Droid Turbo", just released under a different model name. (The "Droid Turbo" is not exclusive to Verizon, in the U.S.) Sold in the U.S., has the exact same LTE bands as the Droid Turbo, with fully unlock-able bootloader (FREE) via Motorola website. Lots of people bought it, rooted it, ran it on Verizon long before the Sunshine bootloader unlock method became available for the Droid Turbo. It's basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo, but you can't buy it from Verizon. But Motorola left the XT1250 on Kitkat 4.4.4. Of course, rooting it and installing a 5.1.1 custom ROM trumps that.
But the fact that Motorola completely abandoned one Quark -- the highest spec phone they sold -- proves my point that they cannot be trusted. That Quark, the XT1250 was called the Moto Maxx, is not even included in the Marshmallow promise. It's not listed under the U.S. phone section.
Yes, my "international" XT1225 phones (3 of them!) will EVENTUALLY get Marshmallow. But WHEN? Motorola is delaying it as much as possible, it seems. We're just complaining about that, and wondering WHY. I paid average of $700 each for my first two Quarks, when first released. I recently bought a 3rd XT1225 for much less, but of course it's now a year later. Just have it as a backup -- as I'm not impressed by the Kinzie successor (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Play). This phone was the best phone when released in 2014 and is still the best for me. I have an LG G4 I got for free, still in the box as this phone meets my needs so much better.
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The forum should be renamed to Moto Maxx. Since Oct of 2014. Nothing about the turbo has had any impact. :crying: Seriously thinking about dumping Verizon. Been A wireless customer since 1998. The worst customer service ever.
HOFFABALBOA said:
The forum should be renamed to Moto Maxx. Since Oct of 2014. Nothing about the turbo has had any impact. :crying: Seriously thinking about dumping Verizon. Been A wireless customer since 1998. The worst customer service ever.
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But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.
Create a separate forum. Turbo is Verizon and Moto's Flagship device.
se4n said:
But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.
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What about unlocking the bootloader, root, twrp...?
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se4n said:
But nothing happened with Moto Maxx since it was released, no updates, no soak tests and no news.
If you think nothing is happening for Turbo, much much less is happening about Moto Maxx.
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"Much much less is happening about Moto Maxx" [Citation needed]
Just look at this forum. All the factory images and mods available are for Moto Maxx. There aren't many mods, but definetely much more stuff is happening to Moto Maxx than for Droid Turbo.
In fact, not a single thing is being developed for the Turbo, nor has the Turbo received any update the Maxx haven't.
Well, they have volte or something. But I'm with you. Even though they're pretty much the same device, there are still software differences, different regions and carriers. I really think we deserve at least some subforums, otherwise some people will start getting confused as soon as we get custom roms and stuff. It wouldn't be very straightforward to have people messing their phones up for nothing. Just my thoughts
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dbornack said:
Create a separate forum. Turbo is Verizon and Moto's Flagship device.
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Well, Verizon's, but I get your point.
cauebs said:
Well, they have volte or something. But I'm with you. Even though they're pretty much the same device, there are still software differences, different regions and carriers. I really think we deserve at least some subforums, otherwise some people will start getting confused as soon as we get custom roms and stuff. It wouldn't be very straightforward to have people messing their phones up for nothing. Just my thoughts
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There is no excuse for not having different forums. Look at all the other carrier branded variants that have theirs.
Edit: Oops, I said the opposite of what I meant, LOL.
I checked the HTC One and it has one for each variant! Can you give me a better example? :/
cauebs said:
I checked the HTC One and it has one for each variant! Can you give me a better example? :/
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Another would be Note 4.
I wager S5 too, though I am not motivated enough to go look.
I just read my reply and said the opposite of what i wanted.
Ah, ok. You confused me there
I think it's a cool idea, but I'm afraid there's not many users of Moto Maxx to make a separated forum relevant.
I saw some people complaining on Moto Maxx forum on Motorola site when people asks questions that already was answered on Droid Turbo forums.
se4n said:
I think it's a cool idea, but I'm afraid there's not many users of Moto Maxx to make a separated forum relevant.
I saw some people complaining on Moto Maxx forum on Motorola site when people asks questions that already was answered on Droid Turbo forums.
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That shouldn't matter.
Look at the activity on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m8-windows
adrynalyne said:
That shouldn't matter.
Look at the activity on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m8-windows
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lol
I think it would be adequate to rename it Droid Turbo and Moto Max and then create separate development sections as they did on Find 7 and others. I think its possible there could be some synergy between the two devices and development of both if the Turbo ever gets its bootloader unlocked and it could then be advantageous to both. I think it would also help bring in some more Maxx traffic since I suspect some owners never thought to look in the Turbo section.
Most of the multiple variant forums are for popular devices like the galaxy line which can be split up and still have a lot of activity on each. Something to remember is that a forums usefulness is in many ways tied to its activity level. In the situation here I think splitting the forum up might be more harmful than helpful in that regard.
Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months
Jaocagomez said:
Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months
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Exclusivity of Droid line is perpetual.
It has to be rebranded like the Maxx for any other carrier.
The forum should be re-named: Motorola Droid Turbo | Moto Max (QUARK)
They are both Motorola "Quark" phones, released under different model names.
ChazzMatt said:
The forum should be re-named: Motorola Droid Turbo | Moto Max (QUARK)
They are both Motorola "Quark" phones, released under different model names.
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HTC M7 and M8 are no different in that regard. They have their own forums.
Jaocagomez said:
Just wait while the exclusivity of verizon wears off in a few months
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adrynalyne said:
Exclusivity of Droid line is perpetual.
It has to be rebranded like the Maxx for any other carrier.
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He didn't say the exclusivity of the Droid wearing off. He said the exclusivity of Verizon selling this Quark phone in the USA.
Verizon calls it the Droid Turbo. In Puerto Rico (U.S. territory), but sold by Claro it's the Moto Maxx. When Verizon's exclusivity wears off, this phone can be sold in the 50 states by AT&T or T-mobile as the "Moto X Play" (rumored name) or some other name.
I own two of the Moto Maxx phones and I live in Georgia -- and run them on AT&T -- so there's really no U.S.A. exclusivity anyway. Very easy to buy from Puerto Rico dealers. Unlocked for any GSM/HSPA/LTE network sim card. Has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. (YES, it has LTE band 5 too, although official specs don't show it.)
For a DEVELOPER, much better than the Droid Turbo because we have unlockable bootloader, root and TWRP.
For those interested, I found one.
It's listed as an XT1225, but only has 32GB memory. (XT1225 only comes with 64GB memory) I pointed this out to the seller and he admitted it's a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-B...D-/291551551851?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
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SAME FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands. Will run on Verizon with Verizon SIM card. Bootloader can be unlocked and phone FULLY ROOTED.
From: chazzmatt
To: premium_wireless
Subject: Details about item: chazzmatt sent a message about Brand New BLACK Motorola MOTO MAXX XT1225 32GB ( MOTO MAXX ) GSM UNLOCKED #291551551851
Sent Date: Sep-01-15 12:43:59 PDT
Dear premium_wireless,
You sure this isn't a Droid Turbo XT1254 or U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250?
Because the XT1225 (sold in Latin America countries) ONLY comes in 64GB. I own two, so I know. XT1225 does NOT come in 32GB. Whereas the U.S. XT1250 and Verizon XT1254 both come in 32GB variants.
- chazzmatt
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From: premium_wireless
To: chazzmatt
Subject: Re: Details about item: chazzmatt sent a message about Brand New BLACK Motorola MOTO MAXX XT1225 32GB ( MOTO MAXX ) GSM UNLOCKED #291551551851
Sent Date: Sep-01-15 12:47:44 PDT
Dear chazzmatt,
I am sorry, this is the 1250
- premium_wireless
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I have no connection to this person, but so many people have contacted me looking for an XT1250. I have pointed people to the various regional carriers who sell it. But here's one very available on eBay...
Nice find and nice phone but still 619 $ is pricey considering its 1 year old.
edit : not to misunderstood for price given by seller, should add sellers' price 619$ is good deal comparing other sellers.
Semseddin said:
Nice find and nice phone but still 619 $ is pricey considering its 1 year old.
edit : not to misunderstood for price given by seller, should add sellers' price 619$ is good deal comparing other sellers.
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for a new "dev edition" of Droid Turbo, it's a great price. ;
Unlock-able bootloader, can be fully rooted.
With dev help, you could also install custom 5.1 ROMs built for other Quarks.
Runs on Verizon with Verizon SIM.
I mean in two months time maximum, we will be offered the droid turbo 2 and moto maxx 2, it is possible to be that ugly motorola bounce or in a droid style case model hopefully. It won't be more expensive than 600$.
Semseddin said:
I mean in two months time maximum, we will be offered the droid turbo 2 and moto maxx 2, it is possible to be that ugly motorola bounce or in a droid style case model hopefully. It won't be more expensive than 600$.
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I don't think replacement model will be on two months...
I think the Motorola Bounce IS the Droid Turbo 2/Moto Maxx 2/Moto Turbo.
Except it will be Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon)/Moto Force (for the rest of the world). Just my guess. I may be wrong. But others are speculating the same thing.
5.4" 1440p display instead of the TOO LARGE 5.7" of the Moto X Play. And upgraded specs (Snapdragon 810, Qi wireless, shatterproof).
Waiting until December so it can have Marshmallow at launch. Not sure if that's ANNOUNCED in December or RELEASED in December. Media reporters confuse that all the time.
and it will probably be about $600 (if it has Qi wireless, etc,). "Shatter proof" and 64B raises the price.
Curious whether the 21MP camera will have OIS and whether either of those bottom holes are a 2nd speaker (for stereo front facing speakers).
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_force_will_be_the_official_name_of_the_leaked_bounce-news-13819.php
Moto X Force will be the official name of the leaked Bounce
, 02 September, 2015
Just a short couple of days ago we brought you word of a new smartphone in development at Motorola. Up until today this was known by its codename - Bounce.
It will however be sold as the Moto X Force when it eventually launches. Along with the official name, we have a new leaked render of the device for your viewing pleasure.
It keeps the trademark Motorola design, so you're not definitely not going to confuse this with an offering from a different manufacturer. Since we've so far heard that there's a Droid Turbo 2 in the making for Verizon, it now seems likely that would be based on the Moto X Force, since Big Red's other Moto launch, the Droid Maxx 2, is basically just a rebranded Moto X Play. Then again, the carrier could have gone with the Moto X Style for its next-gen Turbo, we'll see.
The Moto X Force will apparently be "shatterproof", which suggests a military MIL-STD rating of some sort. This could be paired with water and dust resistance through an IP factor.
Inside the Moto X Force we'll find the Snapdragon 810 chip from Qualcomm, 3GB of RAM, 32 or 64GB of storage, as well as a 3,760 mAh battery -- which, amazingly, is even bigger than that of the Moto X Play.
The screen will be a 5.43-inch QHD affair, while the main camera will be the 21 MP unit seen in both of the other Moto X-branded devices launched this year, paired once again with a 5 MP selfie snapper.
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Over on Disqus and even Reddit, I find it funny people still believe that the Droid Turbo was "exclusive" to Verizon. That was a marketing lie.
They seem to know nothing about the the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- which is IDENTICAL device to the Droid Turbo XT12154 -- even the same FCC ID -- and runs on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card. Also has unlock-able bootloader... the U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the locked down Droid Turbo. Of course, Verizon is not going to tell you about it! And Motorola isn't going to announce it widely because of their relationship to Verizon. But it's there if you know how to research.
Many people have bought it and used it on Verizon. You can root, install TWRP, etc.
Now the Quarks forums have been separated, but if they had not been together for the past year, would the lucky Verizon customers who bought the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx because I told them about it have even found out about it?
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The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.
See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:
FCC ID IHDT56PK1:
XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This device has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.
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FCC ID IHDT56PK2:
XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). No CMDA. This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.
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Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo, Droid Turbo) -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader.
The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it. (unlock-able bootloader, can be easily rooted, TWRP installed, etc.)
Great summary. Thank you. I'm getting ready to move to Verizon because after relocating my AT&T coverage is terrible. Verizon rules in my new area. The Bounce seems like the best alternative to my One M9 which I'm using now because there is a way to unlock and root. I've been spoiled by the ease in which you can convert carrier branded HTC flagships to unbranded Dev editions. Sounds like December will be when I'll be able to switch.
it seems on twitter, the running theory is announcement for the Turbo 2 will be in the middle of October and release at the end of the month. I am secretly hoping they release a Developer Edition because the skip every other year pattern matches up *and* there isn't a Nexus 6 to compete with anymore within Moto's catalog. If so, I am totally prepared to drop $$ on it. Mind you, I realize it is unlikely anyone at Motorola will give a crap about us tweakers considering Android Pay being dev-hostile. I am perfectly ok with choosing between root or Android Pay. I am almost tempted to buy a Moto X Pure and roll the dice on battery life and the 808. My Turbo may never see Bootloader Unlock. who knows at this point.
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it seems on twitter, the running theory is announcement for the Turbo 2 will be in the middle of October and release at the end of the month. I am secretly hoping they release a Developer Edition because the skip every other year pattern matches up *and* there isn't a Nexus 6 to compete with anymore within Moto's catalog. If so, I am totally prepared to drop $$ on it. Mind you, I realize it is unlikely anyone at Motorola will give a crap about us tweakers considering Android Pay being dev-hostile. I am perfectly ok with choosing between root or Android Pay. I am almost tempted to buy a Moto X Pure and roll the dice on battery life and the 808. My Turbo may never see Bootloader Unlock. who knows at this point.
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Winner, winner. Give the man a prize.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/...-droid-turbo-2-announced-pricing-release-date
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...turbo-2-and-its-plastic-shatterproof-display/
Anyone going to jump? How long should we wait to see if Motorola releases an unbranded version similar to what ChazzMatt discussed about the original Driod Turbo?
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-prod...ase-date-price-specification-rumours-3628221/
i definately dont need a prize, lol. if you figure out, as i did, that most leaks start on twitter There definately is a variant that will be released. Just a matter of bands, shipping, and importing.
Droid Turbo 2 is coming tomorrow.
Hey so just a quick update re the Moto Maxx XT1250, they're now approx $340 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Motorol...ed-GSM-4G-LTE-21MP-Camera-Phone-/351564947009
When I found out about the new Driod Turbo / Moto X Force being over $600 I had sticker shock so I went ahead and bought the XT1250 instead. I also have a Nexus 5X coming. I'm stocking up on phones because I have four, or possibly three, family members that are all switching to Verizon and need to try and not break the bank on hardware. No-one in my family wants a phablet-sized device so the XT1250 seems like a good fit. It'll be interesting to see who latches onto it.
I have been searching around and can't seem to find the answer to this question, so I thought this thread would be good to ask it in. Does the XT1250 support VoLTE? I actually need simultaneous voice and data.
good question!! honestly, if I get my hands on one, I plan to bl unlock, then flash turbo firmware. well, at least radios. same fcc id = same hardware. doesn't answer your question I know, but I'm pretty sure the theory is sound
I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.
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I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.
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Agreed. It worked fine for me too. In fact, flashing VZW's firmware is one of your few options if you want Lollipop. Hell it gets Verizon OTAs too.
I've been following the CM12.1 thread and it sounds like right now the XT1250 can't play. There must be a significant-enough difference in the firmware (vs XT1225) to keep it from working.
Just in case anyone is still following this thread, they are selling the xt1250 on jet.com for $260, and if you create a new account your get $30 off! So it comes to $230 with no tax for a new phone.
I assume it's new, but I'll know for sure by the end of next week
Thanks for the info, also purchase one red set. $230
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DougMG said:
I have an XT1250 and unlocked it when I got it and flashed the verizon firmware on it and it works fine including VOLTE.
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Agreed. It worked fine for me too. In fact, flashing VZW's firmware is one of your few options if you want Lollipop. Hell it gets Verizon OTAs too.
I've been following the CM12.1 thread and it sounds like right now the XT1250 can't play. There must be a significant-enough difference in the firmware (vs XT1225) to keep it from working.
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Since someone replied to this thread and brought it back to the top, XT1250 does work with CM12.1 and CM13. The post above was from months ago.
Also works with Resurrection Remix and Mokee (and I think also Xperia ROM) over in the other Quark forum.
The XT1254 Droid Turbo and XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx are exactly the same device, even the same FCC ID.
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Since someone replied to this thread and brought it back to the top, XT1250 does work with CM12.1 and CM13. The post above was from months ago.
Also works with Resurrection Remix and Mokee (and I think also Xperia ROM) over in the other Quark forum.
The XT1254 Droid Turbo and XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx are exactly the same device, even the same FCC ID.
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Do you have links to the pages where we can find the mods? I tried searching but haven't had any luck so far
Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.
I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.
I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:
This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.
People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
JulesJam said:
The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.
For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
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Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.
Moto X Force - The International version of Droid Turbo 2 announced by Motorola.
Coming to Latin America, EMEA and APAC starting in November.
More Info : http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/2015/10/meet-moto-x-force.html
Its a bit of a beast but still pretty cool.
just lacks fingerprint sensor to make it perfect.
and if anyone wants i'll be sending it to USA, CANADA and several countries like when moto maxx and moto x play.
info and specs sheet:
http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/moto-x-force
Jaocagomez said:
just lacks fingerprint sensor to make it perfect.
and if anyone wants i'll be sending it to USA, CANADA and several countries like when moto maxx and moto x play.
info and specs sheet:
http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/moto-x-force
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If I decide to get it, I'll let you know. :good: You helped me get my 2nd Moto Maxx last year.
I still love my XT1225. It's the first phone in a long, long time I've been tempted to keep two years. Comparing the Quark to the Kinzie... We have 3GB RAM, we have Qi, we have turbo charging, I have ballistic nylon over kevlar. Yeah, the new XT1280 has microSD slot, but has a SMALLER battery! I'm conflicted. If they had put in stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, I would be sending you money IMMEDIATELY.
But Google messed up yet again with the 2015 Nexus phones, just like they messed up with the 2014 gen6 Nexus phone. If they had made the LG 5.2" Nexus phone be a top tier phone (with at least the same CPU/GPU/RAM/RESOLUTION specs as the larger Huawei), and included Qi charging, it would be a no-brainer. I would be getting the 2015 LG Nexus phone! But just like last year I didn't want a 6" phone, I don't want even a 5.7" phone. And I do want Qi wireless charging.
I'll need to see the Verizon version (Droid Turbo 2) in a store, hold it, look at the display, to see if I want it or not. At least one reviewer said the all the layers for the "shatterproof" screen made the colors look muddy. I also want to see if the phone is too big for me. I held the 5.5" LG G3 a year ago and I even own an LG G4 (I won it in a contest and am going to sell it; still new) and it's at the edge of my comfort level. I know 5.4" is "smaller" but depends on the bezels. Ah, found the measurements...
LG G3 (5.5" 1440p): 146.3 x 74.6 mm
LG G4 (5.5", 1440p): 148.9 x 76.1 mm
Moto X Force (5.4", 1440p) : 149.8 x 78 mm
See what I mean? The Moto X Force has a SMALLER screen but is a LARGER phone than either of the two flagship LG phones -- for some unknown reason. And the LG G3 and LG G4 has rear camera OIS. The LG G4 also has microSD slot.
One nice thing about the new Moto X Force -- since it will be sold everywhere, XDA support for rooting, TWRP, custom ROMs should come faster and stronger. Thanks to the pioneers last year who got us ROOT, TWRP. But until @Skrilax_CZ came along there were no custom ROMs.
Motorola typically has some of the smaller bezels - I assume the shattershield display explains the size.
ChazzMatt said:
If they had put in stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, I would be sending you money IMMEDIATELY.
The Moto X Force has a SMALLER screen but is a larger phone than either of the LG phones -- for some unknown reason. And the LG G3 and LG G4 has rear camera OIS.
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Exactly my same thoughts, bezels are HUGE and it lacks the fingerprint sensor. I think I'm more interested in the Nexus 6P for the moment, more because of the support and updates part.
Still is an option to consider, but honestly I don't know if I should give Motorola another opportunity because of the crappy support, lack of service and slow update times with the Maxx.
Why do I see some sites saying the camera has OIS?
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Why do I see some sites saying the camera has OIS?
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It doesn't, Motorola never used OIS on their phones with the exception of Nexus 6. Probably it has EIS, but still is not the same as real OIS.
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It doesn't, Motorola never used OIS on their phones with the exception of Nexus 6. Probably it has EIS, but still is not the same as real OIS.
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and since the Moto Nexus 6 had stereo speakers and OIS, we KNOW Motorola could do it if they wanted.
They refuse to give their premium-priced phones premium features...
its announced.
32gb + microsd $10499 pesos Which is around 640 dollars
Jaocagomez said:
its announced.
32gb + microsd $10499 pesos Which is around 640 dollars
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So is the same price as last year, with the only difference that the parity MXN-USD is different now.
Having just bought the Moto X Force - I'm curious if there will be much of an XDA community for it? There's no section made for it yet. I've spent the last 4 years or so with Samsung Galaxys and always enjoyed a good bit of CM or AOSP once stock gets stale (already out of date with this device only being 5.1.1!)
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Having just bought the Moto X Force - I'm curious if there will be much of an XDA community for it? There's no section made for it yet. I've spent the last 4 years or so with Samsung Galaxys and always enjoyed a good bit of CM or AOSP once stock gets stale (already out of date with this device only being 5.1.1!)
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You'll probably have to do what we all did -- invade the sibling forum until XDA creates a separate forum for all the Kinzie variants.
For several months, all the Moto Quark threads (U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, U.S. Droid Turbo XT1254, International Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx XT1225) were in the Moto Droid (XT1254) forum, even though that model was a carrier-specific Quark (Verizon). Finally the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo got it's own forum, even though technically there's two separate Moto Maxx models --- the U.S. XT1250 Moto Maxx (which is identical to the Droid Turbo XT1254, even sharing the same FCC ID) and the "international" XT1225 Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx (which does not have CDMA and slightly different mix of LTE bands from the XT1254/XT1250). But our models in this forum have un-lockable bootloaders and can be truly rooted. Verizon's Droid Turbo does not.
So, until a new forum is created specifically for the Moto X Force, then all Kinzies get to post in the Droid Turbo 2 forum! :good:
Bought the Moto X Force via Hantec.co.uk shipped to Canada, love the phone but my biggest concern is lack of factory rom available from motorola. Motorola's support has confirmed that they won't be releasing the factory rom as it's not a dev or pure device. Makes me a little nervous to root/tinker with it considering how pricey it is and no way to return it to stock.
Also, my first impressions of the shattershield is that I'd pretty much sooner have gorilla glass back, as the top lens is SOFT. You will need to get a screen protector on there stat! Also, currently the only place I've been able to find replacement shattershield lenses is via the Motorola website and they only ship to US addresses. Even with a reship company, you need a credit card with a US address. Don't know if anyone has any advice on this topic, but I've phoned motorola US and they refuse to ship outside the USA, and I've phoned motorola Canada and they are adamant that they cannot obtain this product...weird as they're the same company?... Had to find someone who knew someone in the USA to buy them and ship them up to me.
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Having just bought the Moto X Force - I'm curious if there will be much of an XDA community for it? There's no section made for it yet. I've spent the last 4 years or so with Samsung Galaxys and always enjoyed a good bit of CM or AOSP once stock gets stale (already out of date with this device only being 5.1.1!)
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I have one due to be delivered today to use along side my Nexus 5X (excellent phone, but it doesn't survive a busy day without a top up). There is a forum thread in the About sub forum in the general section of the site for submitting new device sub forum requests. It may be worth posting there as well.
Waiting for My X Force!
Hope you guys support this beast!!!
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Waiting for My X Force!
Hope you guys support this beast!!!
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I think that no one here is happy with the service and support that Motorola gave to this device, and most of us won't ever buy a phone from them again.
The phone is really solid, but if you don't get the proper service to your more expensive phone, for sure will be consequences.
I have to say I stopped using this phone and I got a Huawei G8 some weeks ago. Probably for most of the folks out there is kind of stupid to change this beats for a mid-range phone, but at least I'm getting nice Android version out of the box (5.1) and Marshmallow coming soon according to Huawei; this phone is really nice, full metal design, it feels wonderful in hand, with fingerprint scanner, nice amount of RAM, the processor is not the top but it makes a nice job and the price is pretty decent.
The battery last the same as the Moto Maxx, and I have no more bugs or battery draining issues like on Maxx buggy 5.0.2.
It is really hard I will buy Motorola again, if I'm going to have a crappy support and service, then I prefer no to pay so much money in a device from a company that doesn't give a 5h1t about their customers.
Nuff said...
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I think that no one here is happy with the service and support that Motorola gave to this device, and most of us won't ever buy a phone from them again.
The phone is really solid, but if you don't get the proper service to your more expensive phone, for sure will be consequences.
I have to say I stopped using this phone and I got a Huawei G8 some weeks ago. Probably for most of the folks out there is kind of stupid to change this beats for a mid-range phone, but at least I'm getting nice Android version out of the box (5.1) and Marshmallow coming soon according to Huawei; this phone is really nice, full metal design, it feels wonderful in hand, with fingerprint scanner, nice amount of RAM, the processor is not the top but it makes a nice job and the price is pretty decent.
The battery last the same as the Moto Maxx, and I have no more bugs or battery draining issues like on Maxx buggy 5.0.2.
It is really hard I will buy Motorola again, if I'm going to have a crappy support and service, then I prefer no to pay so much money in a device from a company that doesn't give a 5h1t about their customers.
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you kinda right and you got me thinking
Hope your reply and others same as yours will make them open their eyes!!
I cross my fingers
thx m8 for your reply :highfive:
Galaxo60 said:
I think that no one here is happy with the service and support that Motorola gave to this device, and most of us won't ever buy a phone from them again.
The phone is really solid, but if you don't get the proper service to your more expensive phone, for sure will be consequences.
It is really hard I will buy Motorola again, if I'm going to have a crappy support and service, then I prefer no to pay so much money in a device from a company that doesn't give a 5h1t about their customers.
Nuff said...
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you kinda right and you got me thinking
Hope your reply and others same as yours will make them open their eyes!!
I cross my fingers
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This was the MOST EXPENSIVE PHONE, full featured phone Motorola sold in the past year, and Motorola gave updates to all their cheaper phones but ignored us. Is that any way to treat customers who give you lots of money?
Luckily the devs here at XDA stepped in and supplied the support when Motorola failed to live up to their promises. We have 5.1.1 with tons of features on FOUR custom ROMs, plus a custom kernel. I can't thank them enough. (and I've donated money to show gratitude).
Even with the lack of updated software, it's still a great phone. And, as ChazzMatt points out, the software issue has work-arounds! Now that it's a year old, it's also at a much better price point. In fact, I just bought one for my girlfriend. Although, it's an XT1250, so I'll have to wait a bit for the custom ROMs, but I don't think that's a concern for her.
I wonder how long now till us Moto G4 owners get the update... I'm not expecting too long though. Will the Moto G4 Prime Exclusive Edition (which I have) even receive this update? I guess only time will tell.
stefanorickeets said:
I wonder how long now till us Moto G4 owners get the update... I'm not expecting too long though. Will the Moto G4 Prime Exclusive Edition (which I have) even receive this update? I guess only time will tell.
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I think you answered your own question. I would expect after the first of the year but it could be sooner. I would think the Amazon edition will get it but it may roll out at a different time than other phones. Companies like them and Consumer Cellular that distribute their own version have some say so as to when updates are released since they also provide some software tech support. (Though not much if you've ever called them)