Why G4 Plus over Xiaomi Redmi Note 3? - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

I am in Ireland, and I have had terrible problems ordering a Moto G4 Plus to a mail forwarding company from Motorola UK - 5 attempts with different companies, using different forms of address, omitting the mailbox number etc.
Anyway, I have found a friend that will let me use their UK address, there is just one thing I want to check with you guys before I place my sixth order attempt: someone recommended I go for the cheaper Xiaomi Redmin Note 3, which seems to have the same specs as the Moto G4 Plus, but with a better processor and battery life.
I know the MG4P will have the latest version of Android, but after a click glance at the forums here it seems you can flash that ontt the Note 3.
Many of you must have had to make the same choice, so I am asking, why did you go with the MG4P over the much cheaper Note 3?

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[Q] where to buy in Australia

Hi guys
the G pad actually completely convinces me despite the better screen on the upcoming Galaxy pro 8.4. In any case, anyone out there from Oz land who can help with the following questions: I can't buy the Gpad in black as I would like to, no Oz retailer will order it in (?) Is there any of the grey market firms out there that is actually ok to order from? Also would you advise Google play version vs LG, and how could a mere mortal Ozzie achieve that?
Does anyone who's had the gpad for 6 months think I should rather invest in the SG pro 8.4? Please give me some advice. Most important to me is reliability, sd card slot, size (8-9"), battery and lightness. Thanks so much in advance

Would you buy it now?

I'm looking to change my iphone 5c. I know the performance of the two phones is almost the same.
This would be my first Samsung. I'm a bit scared of switching because friends of mine had S4 (not mini) variants with major issues including replacement of mainboard).
The reason I am looking at this phone is that I want something with more freedom and future proofing ( removable battery, sdcard, nfc, IR ) and a bigger screen, while being around the $150-$200 price range
So:
Would anyone recommend buying it today?
Has anyone used this phone more than a year or two? I'm looking for a phone to last me at least 2-3 years, as I don't change them that often.
How is the rom availability and performance and stability of the available custom roms?
1) If you want it new, sure. But if you are going to buy it second hand, I would try and get a more recent flagship, something like S5 or G2-G3.
2) I got mine new in november 2014. used it for a year and a few months now. No problems for me.
3) The GT-I9505 variant has the best development support. If you are going to get an S4, get the GT-I9505. Avoid getting any rebranded models. Carriers like Verizon and Sprint rebrand their phones. Verizon even locks the bootloader, making flashing roms a nightmare.
do they have such a thing as shops that sell 2nd hand phones where you are ? I think you would stepping down from a 5c to an S4, you could probably pick up a really good 2nd hand android that meets most of your requirements and buy a new battery.
it's an OK phone but I wouldn't buy it again today given the choice.
the Qualcomm i9505 version has pretty decent rom kernel and mod support, but that is dwindling a little with developers moving on...

Redmi Note 3 Pro - need info

Hello,
I just purchased an Redmi Note 3 Pro - 3GB 32GB Qualcomm (it's not here yet, somehow I managed to order from one of the slowest retailers on earth geekb*ying) - probably not in stock even though it said it was, they seemed to get good reviews on resellerratings, (however after contacting their live help, the offered to throw in free gift if I left good feedback on another similar review site-who would refuse right?), so I completely lost confidence in the resellerratings since they could of been bribed reviews too, now I am nervous since it hasn't shipped out yet and it's been 4 days-- and I paid them 180~ usd with paypal- I will wait another week or so before pursuing a refund or pp dispute...
so anyways assuming I wasn't ripped off
As soon as I get this device I want to root it so I can install AFWall+ to block unwanted internet traffic, and that needs root support so I am pretty confused with the models I see
the Redmi Note 3 and the Redmi Note 3 Pro
the Redmi Note 3 only has a 13MP camera and the pro has a 16MP and I also know there is the Mediatek variant
So if anyone could be nice enough to explain how to unlock the bootloader and the correct twrp version for the Pro snapdragon variant of this device.
I also won't have any cellphone access on this device (just wifi) so I hope the unlock method won't require some kind of cell connection, I will probably install a custom firmware down the road once I get used to the device and do a few updates, so any ideas on that would be great too.
http://en.miui.com/download-301.html#438 < is this the correct offical firmware for this device, I notice it says Note 3 but no Pro...I'm confused -
this is my first xomai device.
Ok think I figured the models out,
Pro = Snapdragon, kenzo
Standard = MT6795 Helio X10, hennessy
if that's correct then I still need info about unlocking and the best CM13 rom (where everything works)
I am still in overload with all the codewords and models and threads / old threads / development roms / MUI / global / chinese roms ..etc
official bootloader unlock u need a phone number (doesnt mather witch one or who)
cause u need to ask permision at xioami and they will send a code via sms (and u need to use the same account on phone as you asked permision afcorse)

Moto G4 Plus Buy or Not??

Hi Guys,
I Wish to buy this MG4P but in Forum Xda, GSMarena and some other sites i saw the review. I just fear about buy this phone.
I was last used mobile Galaxy Grand Quattro its used for 2 years in last month its board has problem thats y i am searching a new one.
Am not frequently changed the mobile in short period. Once i purchased am used for 2 to 3 years.
So Guys in my situation whether i will buy MG4P?
Suggest me guys
vinoca said:
Hi Guys,
I Wish to buy this MG4P but in Forum Xda, GSMarena and some other sites i saw the review. I just fear about buy this phone.
I was last used mobile Galaxy Grand Quattro its used for 2 years in last month its board has problem thats y i am searching a new one.
Am not frequently changed the mobile in short period. Once i purchased am used for 2 to 3 years.
So Guys in my situation whether i will buy MG4P?
Suggest me guys
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Well to be honest dont buy this try zuk z1 or z2.This phone has lot of bugs till date.Heating,screen burn etc.Never heard zuk z1 problem as my frnd uses it.Zuk is a good phone.
Thanks bro i will consider this
Xiaomi Redminote 3 Pro , snapdragon processor and lot of custom roms.
Unfortunately, having used the Moto g4 plus for a month, I'll have to agree to the posts above.
And if the frequent bugs wasn't bad enough, the phone has some serious heating and ghost touch issues, with some even reporting screen burn (which is particularly bad considering moto g4 was launched in May, so the screen burn had to happen between then and now).
Plus, if that weren't enough, there's the after sales service and tech support, if only, to add insult to injury. Post - buyout by Lenovo, Motorola mobility's once lauded support has nosedived to being equivalent of squabbling with an eBay seller 'specializing' in cheap knockoffs.
I got no heating issues, no lag, no screen burn in (didn't take the latest update) and consistently 7 hours of screen on time per charge.
I can't believe I almost spent 800 euros on the s7 edge, while the 250 that the g4 cost me give me anything I need and more.
I don't play games. If you play games, don't go for this processor.
Moto (owned by Lenovo) has the worst service centers
If your phone got damaged two days after the purchase, you've to call amazon for return and they will tell you to arrange a dead-on-arrival certificate. When you go to the service center for DOA, they will tell you they can't do that for Amazon. When you tell this to the Amazon they'll tell you they are helpless without DOA. Pure case of cheating.
And also the newer phones coming from Amazon are manufactured in Tamilnadu, India, which has the worst build quality and a yellowish screen.
Both are on my experience. My 3 days old phone is at the service center as the finger print and network stopped working.
Thanks guys for ur reply

Doubts about buying or not

Hey guys, I'm thinking about buying a LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite (x722) for 139€ in a BangGood sale and sell my Xiaomi Mi 5 for 170€.
My interests are a big and good quality screen, a good battery, and a nice custom rom community.
I wanted to know about problems or disadvantages of the phone and also to listen your personal experience with this phone and Banggood service.
Regards, AcRs.
??? Why would you want to sell your Mi 5? It's the better phone since it has custom ROM development and updates. The x722 is stuck on 6.0 for the time being, and has no custom ROMs. Also, a lot of x722s from Banggood have hardware defects. A lot of people are also complaining about weird error messages (like "you're using an unofficial ROM") and stuff like that. I actually just received my x722 today and I'm going to unbox it later tonight. I bought it without realizing that it's stuck with a SafetyNet-failing shop ROM and really wish I bought a Xiaomi phone instead.
x720/x727 GOOD
x722 BAD BAD BAD
As simple as that.
AcRs said:
Hey guys, I'm thinking about buying a LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite (x722) for 139€ in a BangGood sale and sell my Xiaomi Mi 5 for 170€.
My interests are a big and good quality screen, a good battery, and a nice custom rom community.
I wanted to know about problems or disadvantages of the phone and also to listen your personal experience with this phone and Banggood service.
Regards, AcRs.
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I have the x727 that I bought from amazon. Why wouldn't you just buy the x727 from amazon since its only $10 more than banggood?
Next, I just read about the specs for your current Xiami Mi5, it seems that the differences between your current phone and the LeEco x722 are minimal... Why change phones, when you would essentially swap for almost identical specs?
No custom roms but you have the basic software to re-flash it, custom + stock recovery to flash and root.
There may be some custom roms (check tora33 at leeco.re) soon.
Leeco x722 has better design/quality (check user opinions here: https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-letv-le-pro-3-x722,xiaomi-mi5-32gb).
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...Also, a lot of x722s from Banggood have hardware defects. ....
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Could you please link to the lot of those?
@sk8223 - you are all over forums, moaning about x722 being a bad phone.
Majority of owners thinks that this is a great device, even better than Mi5.
@AcRs
No sense in replacing Mi5, you won't profit much.
Could you please link to the lot of those?
@sk8223 - you are all over forums, moaning about x722 being a bad phone.
Majority of owners thinks that this is a great device, even better than Mi5.
@AcRs
No sense in replacing Mi5, you won't profit much.
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I had my doubts about the phone because of the issues people here were facing. Now that I have the phone in my hand I'm quite pleased--it is a good phone despite having a shop ROM. I just hope I don't run into the issues users faced here, but so far everything seems to be working fine. I'm still not sure I'd recommend the x722 in particular, though, since it's kernel sources haven't been released and it's stuck with a shop ROM. You definitely don't want to be stuck with a phone on 6.0 with KRACK WPA2 vulnerabilities and all.
If you're gonna buy, do not go for the X722 version. In fact, I would suggest you to buy from this link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
Now, the main differences between Le Pro 3 and Mi5 are as follows:
1) Le Pro 3 has a bigger screen than Mi5
2) Mi5 has a better camera than Le Pro 3
3) Le Pro 3 has a bigger battery
4) Le Pro 3 has zero warranty from LeEco itself, so, if it has a software defect, you can fix it with support from XDA, but if it has a hardware defect, you gotta buy a replacement part from AliExpress, Banggood, Gearbest etc. and have it replaced at some local shop.
5) Mi5 has better custom ROM support but it doesn't matter much cause Le Pro 3 has a lot of support. You'll find a ton of custom ROMs. My favourite being AOSPA, the link for which I have provided right here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-paranoid-android-t3635168
You can make your decision based on these points. If I helped you in any way, please press the thanks button. It'd help me a bit.
adityabanerjee1303 said:
If you're gonna buy, do not go for the X722 version. In fact, I would suggest you to buy from this link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
Now, the main differences between Le Pro 3 and Mi5 are as follows:
1) Le Pro 3 has a bigger screen than Mi5
2) Mi5 has a better camera than Le Pro 3
3) Le Pro 3 has a bigger battery
4) Le Pro 3 has zero warranty from LeEco itself, so, if it has a software defect, you can fix it with support from XDA, but if it has a hardware defect, you gotta buy a replacement part from AliExpress, Banggood, Gearbest etc. and have it replaced at some local shop.
5) Mi5 has better custom ROM support but it doesn't matter much cause Le Pro 3 has a lot of support. You'll find a ton of custom ROMs. My favourite being AOSPA, the link for which I have provided right here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-paranoid-android-t3635168
You can make your decision based on these points. If I helped you in any way, please press the thanks button. It'd help me a bit.
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Your answer is my favorite, thanks. I will buy Leeco x720 i think
Congratulations man. I hope you enjoy the phone as much as I did. But.. I used to have a crappy Galaxy Tab 2, and then switching to this phone was awesome cause it was worlds apart. Also, I was kinda forced to buy the Le Pro 3 cause.. well, I'm just 14, and my dad wouldn't allow anything more than 200 bucks, but I'm really happy with the purchase. Good luck!
adityabanerjee1303 said:
Congratulations man. I hope you enjoy the phone as much as I did. But.. I used to have a crappy Galaxy Tab 2, and then switching to this phone was awesome cause it was worlds apart. Also, I was kinda forced to buy the Le Pro 3 cause.. well, I'm just 14, and my dad wouldn't allow anything more than 200 bucks, but I'm really happy with the purchase. Good luck!
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I've owned lots of phones and trust me you don't have to spend insane amounts of money. On Samsung Galaxy or iPhones to get a good phone. Leeco and xiaomi are proof of that
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andrew2401 said:
I've owned lots of phones and trust me you don't have to spend insane amounts of money. On Samsung Galaxy or iPhones to get a good phone. Leeco and xiaomi are proof of that
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My thoughts exactly!
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
Dannycoelhoo said:
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
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First of all, mark my words properly.
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT BUY THE X722 MODEL. THAT IS LE PRO 3 ELITE AND IT HAS A FAAARRRR INFERIOR CHIP THAN X720 and X727.
Now, from my experiences, the camera is good. Not the best in the price range, but once you install the modded Google Camera with HDR+, the camera is one of the best in the price range. The AliExpress link which I provided, it offers free shipping to Brazil, so, check it out.. I'll provide it again.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
I think that you should go for this phone with your eyes closed, and the first thing you should do when it arrives, is install a custom ROM. And please, DO NOT GO FOR THE X722 MODEL. YOU'LL DEEPLY REGRET IT!!
Am I wrong or LeEco Le S3 have better camera than x720? Because of the Digital IS?
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adityabanerjee1303 said:
First of all, mark my words properly.
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT BUY THE X722 MODEL. THAT IS LE PRO 3 ELITE AND IT HAS A FAAARRRR INFERIOR CHIP THAN X720 and X727.
Now, from my experiences, the camera is good. Not the best in the price range, but once you install the modded Google Camera with HDR+, the camera is one of the best in the price range. The AliExpress link which I provided, it offers free shipping to Brazil, so, check it out.. I'll provide it again.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
I think that you should go for this phone with your eyes closed, and the first thing you should do when it arrives, is install a custom ROM. And please, DO NOT GO FOR THE X722 MODEL. YOU'LL DEEPLY REGRET IT!!
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The problem is that I pay Customs Tax... I will buy to Portugal because my parents live there, they will bring it to me
Dannycoelhoo said:
Am I wrong or LeEco Le S3 have better camera than x720? Because of the Digital IS?
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The problem is that I pay Customs Tax... I will buy to Portugal because my parents live there, they will bring it to me
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No, the Le Pro 3 has a better camera. Digital IS is not all that matters. Aperture, image processing, contrast and dynamic range also matter, and they're all better in the Le Pro 3.
Btw, the AliExpress link also offers free shipping to Portugal.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
adityabanerjee1303 said:
No, the Le Pro 3 has a better camera. Digital IS is not all that matters. Aperture, image processing, contrast and dynamic range also matter, and they're all better in the Le Pro 3.
Btw, the AliExpress link also offers free shipping to Portugal.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
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I know it is freeshipping but you'll pay taxes!! eheheh In gearbest its also free but it comes from spain so I dont pay taxes
Dannycoelhoo said:
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
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AliExpress is better than gearbest in my opinion. And as a poster below me pointed out. The model on AliExpress is the xt720 which has custom ROM support
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So I'm still searching for the right phone
I need one with Gorilla Glass and a great camera with the price range till 160€. What can you guys suggest me?
Dannycoelhoo said:
I know it is freeshipping but you'll pay taxes!! eheheh In gearbest its also free but it comes from spain so I dont pay taxes
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Forgot to add whenever I ordered anything on gearbest or AliExpress. I've never been charged customs regards if I choose free or paid shipping. AliExpress is just quicker and easier to deal with in case of an issue. As apposed to gearbest
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andrew2401 said:
Forgot to add whenever I ordered anything on gearbest or AliExpress. I've never been charged customs regards if I choose free or paid shipping. AliExpress is just quicker and easier to deal with in case of an issue. As apposed to gearbest
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Please understand that Gearbest have a thing that no other site have: Priority Line. Truly you'll not pay taxes! They have an way to enter via Spain and it dosent go to customs

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