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[Q] Lenovo K920 Vibe Z2 Pro - European Launch?

Hey guys,
Im looking to buy a new phone and my budget as a student doesnt really allow me to go over 350€.
I have an invitation for the One Plus One but that expires this after noon and im not sure if I should just go for the Opo or wait a couple of days/weeks for the Z2?
My problem is, I prefer the Z2 over the Opo as it has a metal body, 4k screen, 4000mAh battery etc but since I am phoneless right now I cant really wait until say december to get the Z2.
Does anyone have any news on the availability in Europe and the pricing?
Apart from that, any trust worthy chinese resellers which I could potentially get the phone from?
I hope someone can help me!
Thank you!

Lenovo will start selling vibe z2 pro on October 10. in Slovakia for recomended price 459€ in stores, if that helps you. I don't know about other EU countries, but think, will be similar date...

Nice phone, but again, lenovo is very late with fixing bugs, its like one single chinese guy is working to make the software, i had the same problem with k910, bugs bugs bugs......

[Q] Would you recommend elephone?

I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.

scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:

My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.

german_psycho said:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.

cheeze.keyk said:
I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
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Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone

german_psycho said:
Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
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i was thinking of buying this device also or the moto g, for back up phone only.
Beamed from my LG G3 D855

cheeze.keyk said:
go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
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Where is their forum?

i think its bbs.elephone.hk
Beamed from my LG G3 D855

Will the Elephone p7000 work with USA 4G/LTE? I've read several of these Chinese phones I have been looking at have poor wifi range. Does Elephone typically have that problem? I ask because where my office is at work isn't that close to the wireless router, I only get about 50% signal strength.

german_psycho said:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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Wait! Audio output too is a major downside. Never got such a ****ty one.. Unless I got defective unit? Doesn't seem so tough..

I've been using this phone for 3 days. It's fast, battery is OK ish, screen is good, audio wise it's OK, lacks compass and gyroscope, camera isn't so good, pictures come out kinda fuzzy. My ex-phone is a Jiayu G3T, so that is what I'm comparing it to. Cost me about 120euro.

scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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Sorry but this only partially true.
Elephone is only a manufacturer and does only B2B.
The information flow of Elephone is rather bad. They still have on their webpage under new products the P7000 announced as available from May. However the P7000 was only partially delivered to pre-orders and a lot of people who paid for the phone are still waiting for it. Apparently the next round of deliveries for the P7000 to shops is announced for the 25th of June.
The other new Elephone models G9, P4000 and S2/S2plus announced for June are still only to pre-order in shops.
[*]The shops where you can buy the products are not truthful about the Elephone products they have in stock. In my experience you have to ask them if the have the have the product in stock in their warehouse ready for shipping.
I did cancel my order for the P7000 in gold with To2C and had to fight to get a full refund.
I placed my order with them at the 21/05/ and got a confirmation of them that they will ship it from the 25th. On the 25th To2C said we'll ship Wednesday or Thursday, on the 28th Friday because they have do put them through their QC. On the 30th they admitted that they do not fulfil the order, it will be shipped out of direct from the Elephone factory to customers and that they cannot send via PostNL. I then asked them what MT6752 3GB phone they have in their own warehouse in stock ready to be send out. They offered the Ecoo E04 (which I looked up as alternative already; it is build by Elephone and out on the market). Next Monday 01/06/ they said again sorry they do not have it in stock, it wilol be send by Elephone. At this point I cancelled my order with them and wanted to be refunded. To2C send me an email showing that they put the paypal fee to me. At that point I did open a dispute with paypal, contacted paypal and raised the dispute to a claim for a full refund, which was done with in the next hours.
I did order then the Ecoo E04 at Aliexpress and it has cleared customs late last Friday. But be aware there are a lot of shop on Aliexpress who are not to be trusted. Eg. they put up pictures of a product alleged to be in stock and you find the same picture for it in an other shop with only the paper been photoshoped. There are even some shops which sell with DHL or FedEx shipping via an extra stop VAT/Duty free.​
They develop only their own stock and custom ROMs.
Elephone did not release the kernel source code for one of their android models, at least not on their forum under Developers Discussion› Android kernel.
There are some customers not happy with the support they get of Elephone.
They announced only the release of the kernel source code for their new MT 6753 based P8000 (slower cpu and Mali T720). The P8000 is announced for July, but well see my comment above
I posted a request in their forum thread to release the P8000 source code to release all their android kernel source codes.
Please support my post to push Elephone to release the kernel source codes: hxxp://bbs.elephone.hk/archiver/tid-5448.html​

I as well ordered a P7000 in gold at to2c.com during pre-sale on May 12th and I finally got it delivered to my place in the EU on June 16th, which is absolutely okay.

I also had problems getting the phone in stock with t2oc, it does get shipped direct and I complained to them about the in stock claim, they then gave a tracking reference which still said registered but not dispatched... That said I good the mains adaptor from t2oc within 2 weeks and the phone from elephone within 3 weeks, my old spare HTC sensation has been passed on to my father and my HTC one is now my spare. I'm happy with the p7000 so far, I'm not a developer but its a new toy and only £150, I've ordered another for a friend through coolicool and getting the same stock issues
Sent from my Elephone P7000 using Tapatalk

I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!

athlon866 said:
I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though

deaglecat said:
yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
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*Facepalm*

Looks like they deleted the G2 section :/

I do reccomend to buy one. It's cheap, nice, good, not small capacity (16 GB if I'm right).
But it's hell hard to root but basicly other things are nice and I enjoy using Elephone.

Should I buy a note 3 in 2016?

Hey everyone,
Looking for a phone for around 150 UK pounds with a big display, good camera and long screen on time
Heard the note 3 would suit me
Is it still getting updated? Big dev support still?
How's the Camera?
What to look for in 2nd hand phones
Are the repairs on the display cheap?
Is it worth buying a cracked display cheaper and getting it fixed?
Is the upgrade to note 4 worth it?????
Sorry loads of questions
Coming from an meizu mx5 very poor support sot of around 4 hours and camera Isnt great poor support again from meizu

sutty86 said:
Hey everyone,
Looking for a phone for around 150 UK pounds with a big display, good camera and long screen on time
Heard the note 3 would suit me
Is it still getting updated? Big dev support still?
How's the Camera?
What to look for in 2nd hand phones
Are the repairs on the display cheap?
Is it worth buying a cracked display cheaper and getting it fixed?
Is the upgrade to note 4 worth it?????
Sorry loads of questions
Coming from an meizu mx5 very poor support sot of around 4 hours and camera Isnt great poor support again from meizu
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I just bought one for my wife. I have one too and they are great.
It cost me about £220 second hand. The note 4 is considerably more and not £100+ better. So sick with the note 3. Camera is 13 mega pixel and more than just adequate.
I don't really care what the Samsung support is, I put custom roms on both phones so they think they are note 5's. The support on xda is all you need. Get a decent case and screen protector and it'll last.
If you can get it for a price you want them go for it. Still a great phone.

Cheifwhat said:
I just bought one for my wife. I have one too and they are great.
It cost me about £220 second hand. The note 4 is considerably more and not £100+ better. So sick with the note 3. Camera is 13 mega pixel and more than just adequate.
I don't really care what the Samsung support is, I put custom roms on both phones so they think they are note 5's. The support on xda is all you need. Get a decent case and screen protector and it'll last.
If you can get it for a price you want them go for it. Still a great phone.
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Thank you for the honest reply
Whats roms are good for battery life

Well. I'm using the phronensis rom, which, despite its silly name is pretty dammed good. But have a look around, the thread titles will usually say if they are geared for performance or battery life (or both).
If you're new to rooting and installing custom roms then I'd recommend the all in one tool kit by skipsoft. Just search 'xda skipsoft' in Google. It pretty much does it all for you (or at least it holds your hand through the process). Just make sure that what you tell it is correct and toy should be good to go.
And be careful. I always read the last few comments in a thread to see what bugs have been reported and if the rom is still being updated. Wouldn't hurt to look up a tutorial on YouTube either.
Send me a private message if you'd like a phone chat about it

Would suggest flashing Lean or Idle kernel for good battery life.

Thanks guys
Going to buy a note three tonight for 140 pounds
Is there two different cpus which one would benefit me better.
Also it's locked down To ee is there a sim unlock tool/app
Or is it something I have to buy on the bay

sutty86 said:
Thanks guys
Going to buy a note three tonight for 140 pounds
Is there two different cpus which one would benefit me better.
Also it's locked down To ee is there a sim unlock tool/app
Or is it something I have to buy on the bay
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Buy it unlocked, otherwise unlock codes from EE will cost you. And there are no such tools.
And very likely you're looking at SM-N9005, the Snapdragon version. There's a tiny chance you might have happened upon N900, the Exynos version that has no 4G support. The performance of the two variants is identical.

Thank you , the price for an unlocked note is alot more expensive than the ee branded ohone

sutty86 said:
Thank you for the honest reply
Whats roms are good for battery life
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For me after trying a lot of roms the better battery life have got is with this rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655

right gents,
i am now a proud owner of a note 3 unlock, running stock lolipop atm 5.0 going to root and start trying a rom,
paid £160 got an extra 3 batteries plus official samsung box, and samsung usb 3.0 extra battery charger...
and Armoured Case,
Slight marks on left hand side of casing, does not affect screen
i have another case, glass screen coming tomorrow also!
Thanks guys, very happy
cant believe how big it is im coming from a 5.5 inch phone also

Picked one up for $35 as a back up and to flash roms, best amount of money I've ever spent on a Android device!
For a phone this old it still kicks ass.

Cheifwhat said:
Well. I'm using the phronensis rom, which, despite its silly name is pretty dammed good. But have a look around, the thread titles will usually say if they are geared for performance or battery life (or both).
If you're new to rooting and installing custom roms then I'd recommend the all in one tool kit by skipsoft. Just search 'xda skipsoft' in Google. It pretty much does it all for you (or at least it holds your hand through the process). Just make sure that what you tell it is correct and toy should be good to go.
And be careful. I always read the last few comments in a thread to see what bugs have been reported and if the rom is still being updated. Wouldn't hurt to look up a tutorial on YouTube either.
Send me a private message if you'd like a phone chat about it
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Phronesis (Ancient Greek: φρόνησις) is a word used in the ancient greek and means "wisdom" or "intelligence", common theme in philosophical debates. As you can see, this word can be anything but silly my friend

Thanks for the translation of the name but got to agree does sound odd, not yet flashed but does look absolutely beautiful.
35 dollars wow bargain that's just over 20 pounds in the UK.
Are the phones capable of fast charging only seems to be charging at 1200mah on all my chargers even the fast charge 2.0 charger I have

sutty86 said:
Thanks for the translation of the name but got to agree does sound odd, not yet flashed but does look absolutely beautiful.
35 dollars wow bargain that's just over 20 pounds in the UK.
Are the phones capable of fast charging only seems to be charging at 1200mah on all my chargers even the fast charge 2.0 charger I have
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I charge it with my Nexus 6 charger and it charges pretty quick

Worth buying k3?

Hello everyone.
I have been looking for phones over the last week and I found this nice phone that's pretty affordable with awesome characteristics . Is k3 worth buying, because since it is so cheap,there must be a problem with it,I guess...

Its a good mid range phone from middle 2015. Buy it if you find one cheap.
Also, there seems to be a batch with many issues with the touch screen (Ive one with a bad screen) and with no support from the company: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/K-and-...h-Screen-Issue-in-Lenovo-K3-Note/td-p/2128737
So in my opinion its a gamble when you buy from Lenovo (because the issue the screen issue is still there with k4 and k5 (or what its called)).

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imo, dun buy it.
i bought it based on its spec, very impressive.
regret ever bought it.
dun buy it.
ps:
out-of-box, chinese version will download tons of crappy chinese apps/games once the data connection/wifi is 'ON', b4 u realised/understand wats going on.
all stock apps/games r restricted use for china (restrictly no settings for any other cities out of china).
sound speak is too small, too soft, cant even hear alert/alarm.
usb connection non existence for sd storage, only for charging or otg.
external sd storage another screwed problem, unfriendly usage.
risk brick phone in order to install custom roms, experimental stage not sorted-out teethling problems.
no support from lenovo, retailer support scuks, new phone replace with refurbish phone, etc.
good luck if u wishes to buy lenovo phones.
pss:
seriously wants to buy lenovo k3 note, dun ever buy the chinese version, get the ROW (Rest-Of-World) version.
psss:
screen start to show sign of flickering after six months. damn :-[

Hads mine for nearly a year and it`s been fine, great phone for the price.

You can find it on aliexpress for 90€ shipping included (100$) at this price, its really hard to get such a good device.
About all the chinese stuff inside, just flash international android 6 and it will be more clean and you get play store
Also this device has huge comminuty and now we start to see Cyanogenmod running quite good
Even right now, its the best device you can get for 100$ !
And if it break after a year or two, you need to remember you just paid 100$ for it

best place to buy a new V20?

new sells in my country for almost as much as people selling their used.
ive looked on ebay but looking at feedbacks, im certain the phones being sold as new are refurbished.
I bought my current v20 as new and got refurbished. after a year when the warranty was over the screen has MASSIVE bleeding and ghosting on it.
looking for a good source -unlocked INTL version.
I want the phone because I love the camera (unfortunately both my cameras no longer work because the glass cracked and over the time has had damage) and I need a phone with swappable batteries.
last question. once I gtet the phone I want to make sure my phone has an original screen. is there clear markings that I can verify the screen is OEM?
any help appreciated.

rocketman122 said:
new sells in my country for almost as much as people selling their used.
ive looked on ebay but looking at feedbacks, im certain the phones being sold as new are refurbished.
I bought my current v20 as new and got refurbished. after a year when the warranty was over the screen has MASSIVE bleeding and ghosting on it.
looking for a good source -unlocked INTL version.
I want the phone because I love the camera (unfortunately both my cameras no longer work because the glass cracked and over the time has had damage) and I need a phone with swappable batteries.
last question. once I gtet the phone I want to make sure my phone has an original screen. is there clear markings that I can verify the screen is OEM?
any help appreciated.
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I bought 4 from a seller on eBay CDMA supplier their v20 listed as excellent are the same as new no problems is 2 years
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Import 1 from Korea, or a country that regularly import and sell Korean phones on the secondary market (i.e. Philippines/Vietnam/etc..), but even then they might just be refurbished. The phone stopped manufacturing over a year ago, its also nearly 3 years old, you'd be hard pressed to find a new legit BNIB V20

crumbling9999 said:
Import 1 from Korea, or a country that regularly import and sell Korean phones on the secondary market (i.e. Philippines/Vietnam/etc..), but even then they might just be refurbished. The phone stopped manufacturing over a year ago, its also nearly 3 years old, you'd be hard pressed to find a new legit BNIB V20
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my worry is that the parts inside are genuine and swapped for aftermarket garbage. mine has an aftermarket screen. I didnt know that when I bought it. it has tons of ghosting and bleeding.
oe screen is higher quality for sure.

clsA said:
I bought 4 from a seller on eBay CDMA supplier their v20 listed as excellent are the same as new no problems is 2 years
Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
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guy has 98.3% -im not buying from him. prices are too high also

rocketman122 said:
guy has 98.3% -im not buying from him. prices are too high also
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98.3 out of 45000 reviews on eBay is excellent, I got good deals from him.
I paid $225 for the near mint silver H910 in Oct of 2017
And $200 for the 3 others in excellent condition a couple months later
I don't think you'll find a New / Mint v20 for any cheaper from a reputable dealer.
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https://swappa.com/search?q=v20