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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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And by then might as well wait for SD 830.
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You should buy one right now because if you wait 3-6 months it will be worth it to wait until the Nexus 7P is out.
I had the Nexus 6... Just sold.. The 6P is very much a better phone all around.
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Wait for the sd830. Will be better.
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I think OP is just looking for a worthy jump in processing power. Anandtech recently did a review of the Nexus 5X, the thermal issues that plague the latest generation snapdragons is pitiful. Qualcomm seems to have screwed up. The generation jump from the S4 Kraits to the SD 800 and then the SD 805 was a lot more worth upgrading for.
From the review:
"The Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 keeps all four cores at their max frequency for about twelve minutes before they all throttle down to 2GHz and remain there for nearly two hours. Meanwhile, Snapdragon 808 can only keep its two A57 cores at their peak frequency for two minutes before throttling both down to 633MHz and putting the A53s up to their peak 1.44GHz. After twelve minutes the A57s are just shut off entirely, and you're left with a cluster of 4 A53 cores at 1.44GHz."
"It's disappointing that this year's Qualcomm silicon means that the performance improvement over a two year old Nexus 5 is not very large. Our past published data shows that the behavior of the Snapdragon 810 SoC in the Nexus 6P will almost certainly behave in the same manner, and in that case you'll actually be looking at an overall regression compared to the Nexus 6 when your workload spans any longer than a minute or two.
On the one hand, I think it would have been better for Google to wait until Snapdragon 820 launched so it could be utilized...
I can certainly forgive the issue when the device costs $379, but I don't think it would be as easy to pass if it's also true of the 6P, and overall I'm most disappointed about the relative lack of improvement over the original Nexus 5 despite the two year gap between the two."
Honestly, I have seen some early benchmarks of the snapdragon 820, Qualcomm has ditched the Big.Little architecture and gone back to a balanced quad core design with its kyro cores. While the results are significantly better than the SD 810, IMO it is still going to be the generation which will be playing catch-up to the Samsung Exynos.. compared to the Exynos 7420 in the current galaxy devices, the SD 820 is better in single core performance but still lags behind in multi-core because of the shift in architecture..Also the gains in power consumption and efficiency are largely because of the lesser cores. The next gen Exynos 8890 should again be able to outperform the SD 820, but I guess Qualcomm is going to readjust itself on the right path with the SD 820. So maybe the jump after the SD 820 will be even more favorable, only time will tell. For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
HWell the question was because the sd820 will be used in 2 months from now and the sd830 (if thats the model by then) itll be used in 1 year and 2 months, but i quest the only people that answered my question are 12 year old kids being sarcastic. I would be happy if someone with knowledge could answer my question instead of funny people
P.S. Thank you very much guru_urug
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
LTU seems to have a future in improving availability of data/voice connection. I think 3x3 carrier aggregation is not in service on any of the cellular service providers, and I haven't read a thing about when it will be implemented. I think the 6p has mimo 2x2 WiFi and 2x2 carrier aggregation. I've been using a 6p for about 2 weeks now, and it seems like the radios and microphones work better than my previous phone (Nexus 6).
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i have the 6p almost 2 weeks now,was concerned about 810 processor but believe me this is the smoothest, most consistent running device i have ever owned, google is smart to release phones after summer,we dont start out with overheatingl,,lol im curious when the hot weather comes back how theses phuckers will handle the heat,,buy the phone and have a blast..steve
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Woah woah woah! I thought they were scrapping the 840 to rush the 900a series into production. Wtf. Why am I the last to know these things!!!!!?
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In all seriousness though... Look at the performance differences between 800, 805, etc... If approx 20% performance increases (on paper) are that critical to you, then wait.
If you want the smoothest android experience on the planet, get the 6P.
Simple enough.
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
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That's exactly it. People are convinced that they need bigger (well, smaller!) and better chipsets, but my Snapdragon 800 Nexus 5 still performs brilliantly. The performance on games is just fine, and there's no lagging. I do think a big problem is a consumer sees something stuttering and puts it down to the CPU. Crikey, my Galaxy Tab S stutters (thanks TouchWiz) but it's an octo-core tablet. It's NOT too slow because of some UI glitches!
It's also why you can pick up a Snapdragon 400 or 410 device, or even Snapdragon 200, and get a perfectly good user experience - let down only when you go for the most graphic intensive games, which I suspect most people aren't even doing. Even I now play relatively few games, and many are far more of the casual gamer type ones anyway.
My concern with my 6P is battery life, more so than the throttling issues, so that's what I'm hoping is improved on SD820 over and above everything else. (I should add that I've purchased a 6P already)
Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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I own a nexus 6 at the moment, i love nexus devices, i had a nexus 5 before the 6 and a 4 before that. My concern is about some problems i saw on other devices like htc and lg (flex 2). I know ofc that they say sd810 on oneplus and n6p is an other version (which i believe is just for the media) and ofc i know that nexus devices are much faster than other phones with same specs, but those problems with overheating etc are bugging me, thats the reasson i ask.
So, Ars Technica just published its review of the Galaxy S7, which goes super in-depth. And in it, some things aren't surprising: the intl 8890 spanks the US 820 models, but here's the one that's surprising.
Not surprising
Rather surprising
Very surprising
So not only does the Exynos have noticeably better benchmark performance, it also lasts longer on a charge. And while the E8890 was tested in the UK labs, while the US labs tested the S820 version, the difference should not be that big. And with the early reports of the S820's GPU being noticeably better than the E8890's proven wrong in that same review (it is slightly better, but with differences of only 1 or 2 fps), it begs the question why Samsung didn't go all Exynos again, especially since it home-grows these chips, it theoretically should be cheaper for them to just use these. I know Samsung has a partnership or something with Qualcomm, but when your product is better than theirs in every way, doesn't it just make more sense to go with the better one?
I'm happy Australia gets exynos
sigh. typical.
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The thing is, and always seems to be, that a quick search on Google for Snapdragon VS Exynos S7 performance shows plenty of legitimate tests that swing either way in favor of one or the other depending on which test(s) you believe. The above illustrated (in the OP) is just one of the tests. Many will show results in favor of the Snapdragon. Generally speaking, the pattern seems to support the Exynos being slightly better at intense gaming while the Snapdragon seems to be slightly better at day-to-day tasks.
That being said, I think it's ridiculous to split hairs when it comes to slight performance differences that 99.5% of most users will never notice. It's not a topic worth arguing about (though many still will). It just comes down to whose test do you want to believe over the next guys. Debating such small differences can be fun, but it won't make one variety of S7 any better than the other at the end of the day.
Here is just one of the many examples that show results a bit different than in the OP:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s7s-snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890-preliminary-showdown-2334571
Again, for every site that shows one shine above the other there is another site that will show it differently. Either way, either processor, the S7 is a great phone (if your not a developer in the US).
Real world use there is no difference
Would love the exynos version
Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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It's not a totally fair fight, S7 always has slight edge over S7 edge. I don't have any theory to support this, but I've read a lot of S7/edge benchmark and S7 always have 300->1k point higher than S7 edge
Still, 6 or 7 second lower in some game loading is a noticeable margin. Also, in this video, he only tested app loading time so it's not the end of the story. He said that he's gonna upload a new video about real FPS performance then, we shall see if Snapdragon can make a come back.
And one reason why Samsung use Snapdragon variant in US is due to LTE network spec that only Snapdragon chip support or sth. Also can't remember where I read that )
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have any apps moved to those SD-cards?
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have an apps moved to those SD-cards?
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He didn't say anything about that. He just install 20 same games and apps on both devices, and then use same 3G network carrier (which is Mobifone - Vietnam) and then speed test their loading time. I don't think he used SD card at all. Most of the time he just said that he though Snapdragon version should be faster but apparently it's not. Also, some app, like Dictionary and Chicken invader, the S7 Exynos doesn't restart the app, just normal resume, while S7 Edge SD820 need to restart the app. That's all about it.
wow, sd820 performance in that video is horrible.
Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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You should ask that in the S7 Help section rather than take this thread off-topic.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Sounds like you're losing sleep over it. I couldn't resist.
Exynos-powered Galaxy S7 appears to be faster than its Snapdragon 820 counterpart
If you take the two side-by-side comparisons uploaded to YouTube into account, it appears that the Exynos 8890 variant of the Galaxy S7 is actually significantly more powerful than the Snapdragon 820-driven Galaxy S7. Not only does this model boot and open applications faster but it also renders video at a significantly faster rate.
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Side by side cool, but in real world use there is no difference. The exynos has better battery life
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Why are you so salty?
The thing is both devices are Int versions (G9350 and G930F), so your argument about "modem limitation" is not valid.
And about the edge features, here is the evidence that it is negligible.
https://youtu.be/28FjDWmLli8
This one's different as it wasn't charging. I have swapped my for the s7 edge as a loaner and this article says it also has the same problem. I'm quite concerned now.
A friend of mine was on a Flight where attendant announced THREE TIMES that if you have a note 7 you can't use it or charge it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Six-...ng-Galaxy-Note-7-explodes-in-his-hand_id85305
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This one's different as it wasn't charging.
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The story does not say whether the phone was charging. The phone was in use, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't charging.
On a side note. Its unfortunate this happened but why would you give your child the phone knowing about the possible risk?
Is bs is the parents didn't know with the amount of publicity this has gotten.
The phone could have been charging and the kid still using it and phones can get hoy while playing a game. A lot could have happened to cause this unless the issue is just an unstable battery regardless of use/heat
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Has anyone noticed.thst all the fires are in devices in thick cases?
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yes I have noticed this as well. the media is running rampant trying to destroy Samsung with the launch of Crapple 7 right around the corner.
truth comes out in this case, it was a "Galaxy Core" not a Note 7.
Lewis says the family all have Samsung phones and initially said the exploding phone was a Galaxy Note 7, the device that was recalled last week after reports that some of the lithium-ion batteries exploded or caught fire.
But the boy's mother said outside their home Monday the device is a Galaxy Core, not the recalled Note 7.
Source: Samsung Phone Blows Up in Brooklyn Kid's Hand, Grandpa Says | NBC New York http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...rooklyn-New-York-393131791.html#ixzz4K8122hSY
Welp, wrong phone. It was a galaxy prime phone.
Oops didn't see message above.
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This one's different as it wasn't charging. I have swapped my for the s7 edge as a loaner and this article says it also has the same problem. I'm quite concerned now.
A friend of mine was on a Flight where attendant announced THREE TIMES that if you have a note 7 you can't use it or charge it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Six-...ng-Galaxy-Note-7-explodes-in-his-hand_id85305
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Not True wasn't a Note 7 , was a Galaxy Core that burn the boy, http://phandroid.com/2016/09/13/samsung-explosion-galaxy-core-new-york/
Actually it's quite concerning that it's happening on more than one Samsung product. Might reflect an overall laziness with qualify control
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Actually it's quite concerning that it's happening on more than one Samsung product. Might reflect an overall laziness with qualify control
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Phones across all brands have had issues with batteries. It's more of a battery issue and with how thin phones are.
Most companies go to third party suppliers for the parts.
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Actually it's quite concerning that it's happening on more than one Samsung product. Might reflect an overall laziness with qualify control
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There have been over 100 reports of iPhone 6s exploding, but no recall and no news about it. It seems like this entire thing is a small issue blown way out of proportion to aid Apple's iPhone 7 sales.
As I stated in another thread. Batteries are potentially dangerous and have been a part of numerous safety recalls for numerous products for that reason. I am not overly concerned it will happen again anytime soon with Samsung. Best odds for battery safety are now with them.
It wasnt a Note 7, as per this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...ld_boy_in_brooklyn_not_burned_by_a_note7_but/
But guys, please take all the precautions. I am not charging my phone till 100%, no overnight charging...
Anything with these type of batteries can explode if it over heats. Playing video games and possibly charging at the same time is just a recipe for disaster regardless of the phone or device maker.
Hell put a can of soup on the stove unopened to heat up and leave it there. It will eventually explode
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Playing video games and possibly charging at the same time is just a recipe for disaster regardless of the phone or device maker. k
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If that were true, it would be a reckless design choice for the phone to allow playing video games while charging.
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If that were true, it would be a reckless design choice for the phone to allow playing video games while charging.
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You tell me, i dont play video games. Is it restricted to charge while playing a video game on a cell phone? Maybe it is and i dont know about it.
Can any phone distinguish video game play and not allow you to charge?
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I'm also starting to think that this has apple all over it.
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You tell me, i dont play video games. Is it restricted to charge while playing a video game on a cell phone?
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Either it works and is safe, or it's unsafe and blocked from happening. So in either case, it's not a "recipe for disaster" to try to do it. No one would design a phone in such a way that an app could make it catch fire under circumstances that the phone permits (and that there isn't even any warning about).
Can any phone distinguish video game play and not allow you to charge?
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It can certainly distinguish heavy load, heavy battery drain, high temperature, etc.
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Phones across all brands have had issues with batteries. It's more of a battery issue and with how thin phones are.
Most companies go to third party suppliers for the parts.
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Samsung admits these were their batteries. Chinese Note 7's got chinese sourced battery that is now being sourced for all Note 7's. Samsung batteries were also in many of the hoverboards that caught fire. Samsung said they were knock offs. Now I'm thinking otherwise.
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There have been over 100 reports of iPhone 6s exploding, but no recall and no news about it. It seems like this entire thing is a small issue blown way out of proportion to aid Apple's iPhone 7 sales.
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In the first month of sales? Samsung has admitted that it is a design flaw in the battery that might allow the positive and negative to contact inside the battery. That is what causes them to flare up or explode.
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Samsung admits these were their batteries. Chinese Note 7's got chinese sourced battery that is now being sourced for all Note 7's. Samsung batteries were also in many of the hoverboards that caught fire. Samsung said they were knock offs. Now I'm thinking otherwise.
In the first month of sales? Samsung has admitted that it is a design flaw in the battery that might allow the positive and negative to contact inside the battery. That is what causes them to flare up or explode.
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They did not say it was a design flaw, they said it was a manufacturing error, not the same thing.
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Either it works and is safe, or it's unsafe and blocked from happening. So in either case, it's not a "recipe for disaster" to try to do it. No one would design a phone in such a way that an app could make it catch fire under circumstances that the phone permits (and that there isn't even any warning about).
It can certainly distinguish heavy load, heavy battery drain, high temperature, etc.
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Still didn't answer me. Is there a phone that will stop a video or shut down if temp gets too high?
Its not a design per say, its a consequence of someone abusing their phone. Of course this was not the case with the note 7 but any phone can explode if the user abuses the device.
A phone can give you a warning of heat but i could be wrong. It wont stop what you are doing or shut down.
And im aware it can distinguish those things.
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The Exynos version of the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra is being hammered with complaints!
https://www.techspot.com/news/84872-exynos-version-galaxy-s20-ultra-hammered-complaints.html
Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
The Exynos used in the global variant of the device lags behind the market competition.
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Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
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LOL no way Samsung will do that. It's an inferior chip 4 sure, so don't buy it at all or return it. Samsung will automatically understand.
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
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I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
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who gives a **** about root nowadays and why shouldnt we as you say "lose our minds" we paid ****ing good money for this and yea we been cheated and samsung know it latest update killed fast charge by 30 mins why should we suffer coz of their mistakes iv not seen one snapdragon complaint yet 1000s of exynos now you tell me is that right ?
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I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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I happen live in the U.S. so I have the Superior Snapdragon chipset. Currently no issues with phone. I just feel bad for people that got shafted with Samsung's piece of S**t chipset.
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I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
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+1
I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving buck to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
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You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
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mohammed510 said:
You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
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That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
djoxie said:
That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
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Not a problem in UK ... submitted claim 10 days ago and received my Buds+ today
i did the last update but still im having the issues im passed my return window due to the covid situation in my countries any suggestion !!>>? i called them and explained the situation they offered me repair but we all know its a chip issue so what should i do ?? any suggestions?
If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
speedyjay said:
If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
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As much as I agree with you on the triviality of the matter I do understand how people could be pissed off at paying the same price for an inferior product
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Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
peekie said:
Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
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I have the 512gb and battery life is shocking
chieco said:
Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
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i belive so too but not many people do
the issue is not everyone is a heavy user but the device faces issues even with medium use like video chat heating to 45C this isnt okay
i never regreted a purchase from samsung
i really want them to do something about it
i called their call center n all they offered was repairs n if the issue isnt fixed a replacement but we all know its a chipset issue so same **** again
at this point i dont know what to do
thing is i do notice that it overheats and throttles in gaming. i'd ordinarily be pissed right off. but i got the 16gb/512gb model (with warranty) for like £850 second hand as new. If i paid £1499 for it I would be seriously pissed off.
Seems that the efficiency difference isn't so big after all. Less than an hour. Not too bad for the exynos this year. Samsung is definitely improving the exynos with every update. Waiting for custom roms/kernels for my exynos S20U. Should further improve battery life/performance..
There are various speed tests clearly showing the exynos is slower in day to day usage compared to snapdragon.
And then this, the battery life it worse, too.
However you say this is good. I don't get it, why do you seem to be happy with exynos when it's slower AND having shorter battery life?
And no, Samsung is not doing better, this year the gap between exynos and snapdragon is larger than ever. Last year they were closer.
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There are various speed tests clearly showing the exynos is slower in day to day usage compared to snapdragon.
And then this, the battery life it worse, too.
However you say this is good. I don't get it, why do you seem to be happy with exynos when it's slower AND having shorter battery life?
And no, Samsung is not doing better, this year the gap between exynos and snapdragon is larger than ever. Last year they were closer.
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The gap isn't too big for speed test too. 8 seconds? Not bad. Thought the gap would be much bigger for both battery and speed test, but it's not. Custom roms/kernels will definitely improve things further for the exynos. Even he said you won't notice any difference between the two variants in day to day use.
The big problem on exy is when you get out of home from wifi to mobile data on a trip. That eats the battery!
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At the end of the day no matter what anyone says snap and exy are same price so we should be getting equal performance but no way exynos users have been shafted from battery usage to performance and camera
New exynos beast in the making
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-a...roys-the-Adreno-650-in-GFXBench.463359.0.html
https://wccftech.com/samsung-soc-amd-gpu-beat-snapdragon-865-adreno-650/amp/
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mohammed510 said:
New exynos beast in the making
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-a...roys-the-Adreno-650-in-GFXBench.463359.0.html
https://wccftech.com/samsung-soc-amd-gpu-beat-snapdragon-865-adreno-650/amp/
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Who care ? bye
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Who care ? bye
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Bye
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mohammed510 said:
New exynos beast in the making
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-a...roys-the-Adreno-650-in-GFXBench.463359.0.html
https://wccftech.com/samsung-soc-amd-gpu-beat-snapdragon-865-adreno-650/amp/
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man your just rubbing salt in the wound we dont care about future releases when we have this crap no software update can sort
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man your just rubbing salt in the wound we dont care about future releases when we have this crap no software update can sort
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True. Finally got rid of mine for a OnePlus 8 pro ..
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love how people get sooo annoyed over a fraction of a second in each task and its something that nobody would notice in normal day to day usage
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love how people get sooo annoyed over a fraction of a second in each task and its something that nobody would notice in normal day to day usage
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while true its the big difference in battery life and efficency thats the big problem
mohammed510 said:
New exynos beast in the making
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-a...roys-the-Adreno-650-in-GFXBench.463359.0.html
https://wccftech.com/samsung-soc-amd-gpu-beat-snapdragon-865-adreno-650/amp/
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HAHAHAHAHAHA the future looks bright, but it aint the future now :good: Chances are Samsung won't even release this