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Replacing the battery?

Now before some HTC fan boy shoots me down in flames for suggesting that HTC may have had less than honourable intentions for designing a phone with a fixed battery, please hear me out.
HTC, to stay afloat, require continued sales of the latest and greatest tech. It is quite possible that phone specs will start to plateau out now.
There isn't much use increasing the screen resolution. The ram amount is startinh to exceed laptop computers from a few years back and as for processor and gpu power, unless applications really advance on phones and we start doing things like 3d rendering/modelling or demand to run things like crisis xD, I'm not sure either of these are going to require a massive boost after a few iterations.
So theoretically very soon a great deal of users may be able to use their phones over two year, maybe even three to four if they look after them.
I'm sure HTC and Apple saw this coming and that maybe part of the reason they decided on a non removable battery.
I stress this is my opinion with regards to what might happen in the future of phone tech and HTC's current t business decisions.
My question is, what happens when we want to upgrade our devices? Often they are still more than merely useable!
I personally give all my old phones to my father. Now to give it a new lease of life, on older phones I could potentially have given it a new battery.
When I upgrade from something like the HTC one, and the battery has seen better days, given that li-ion batteries only have a limited amount of recharges, do you think HTC will replace the battery for a fee?

I am actually also curious about this. I give my phone's to my girlfriend usually after 1 year. This year I'm giving her my S3 and have really recommended her to get a new/extended battery to fully enjoy her phone. A year ago I gave her my S2 with an extended battery from Samsung.
But next year, what do I do with the HTC One? I think the One will lose about 20% of it's battery capacity in a year like most phone's, so it would be nice to be able to get a fresh new battery in it next year. Does HTC do these kind of things for customers, and if yes, how much will it cost?

I would imagine you would be able to get the battery replaced for a fee, same as the One X, you may even be able to do it yourself, the same as the One X.
Even possibly replacing it with a bigger capacity one if there is one around of the same size, the same as the One X and the One X+ battery.

It's Li-Po battery... Their charges last longer than Li-Ion
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NiCk.JaY said:
It's Li-Po battery... Their charges last longer than Li-Ion
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The main reason for Li-Po vs regular Li-Ion, is that you can shape the battery into any size/shape you want. According to Wikipedia however, per size, it actually holds less charge
This type has technologically evolved from lithium-ion batteries. The primary difference is that the lithium-salt electrolyte is not held in an organic solvent but in a solid polymer composite such as polyethylene oxide or polyacrylonitrile. The advantages of Li-ion polymer over the lithium-ion design include ″potentially″ lower cost of manufacture,[citation needed] adaptability to a wide variety of packaging shapes, reliability, and ruggedness, with the disadvantage of holding less charge
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I am sure when someone works out how to reliably open the phone, without damaging it, we will start to find ways to change it ourselves. But this is a throwaway society, and the general view is that when the battery has become useless, you throw away the phone. While it is certainly true that you do not see people sturggling to swap batteries on the fly on a phone like the S3 where you can change it....for those that may want to keep a phone more than two years, the One is less than ideal.

But really, what percentage of phone users change their batteries, even if they can? I would say not many.
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Basil3 said:
But really, what percentage of phone users change their batteries, even if they can? I would say not many.
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People used to open the N8 to change that battery. Is the HTC even more sealed, in terms of " It can not be opened, not even with a screwdriver " ?

Xperia23 said:
People used to open the N8 to change that battery. Is the HTC even more sealed, in terms of " It can not be opened, not even with a screwdriver " ?
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That's the point. I think the uni body constriction of the device kind of hampers this. From what I've seen of the case it looks like it goes right around the edges of the screen. I'm not entirely sure how they yet any of the components in. What makes it worse is by naming it the HTC One all you get in Google searches is results regarding the One X or S etc.
I'm waiting on an iFixit article about it. As for the li-po batteries, thanks for that info. I've never heard of them and I always like learning something new!

Yep, roll on iFixit
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I wrote to HTC support and asked them. They said that they will replace the battery against a fee, so there won't be a problem to change it if one should want to keep the phone longer than two years. (They change it for free during the first two years.)

Just had a thought. I'm still on Galaxy S2 (20months old). To be honest I want to replace it because of unequal screen burn and an increasing yellow tinge to the screen. Phones with AMOLED do not last past battery replacement date.
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drspikes said:
Just had a thought. I'm still on Galaxy S2 (20months old). To be honest I want to replace it because of unequal screen burn and an increasing yellow tinge to the screen. Phones with AMOLED do not last past battery replacement date.
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This is rubbish. 3-year-old Desire which I gave to my wife year ago has flawless display. The whole phone is in fact still like new.
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mikbe said:
This is rubbish. 3-year-old Desire which I gave to my wife year ago has flawless display. The whole phone is in fact still like new.
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I have had an s2 s3 note 2 and gnex. Each less than a year and all have had burn in on the screen of some degree.
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It's amoled and it's organic. It's just natural that it burns.
Amoleds are cheap & Environment friendly types of displays that's why samsung prefer them over LCD. 96% of the people using mobile phones don't care about that anyways.

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That's the point. I think the uni body constriction of the device kind of hampers this. From what I've seen of the case it looks like it goes right around the edges of the screen. I'm not entirely sure how they yet any of the components in. What makes it worse is by naming it the HTC One all you get in Google searches is results regarding the One X or S etc.
I'm waiting on an iFixit article about it. As for the li-po batteries, thanks for that info. I've never heard of them and I always like learning something new!
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Try searching like this

Awesome, now I'll never have to see another Justin Bieber link ever again!

[Q] is it safe to buy a nexus 4?(overheating etc)

i have been hearing about these issues such as overheating, speaker problems, connectivity problems and screen issues. so i wanted to know if these issues are really popular on the phone or not, and on average after how much time do they appear(so that the phone wud be replaced if under warranty)?
PS im not buying it from play store, its from a retailer outside US

Totally safe and totally worth it. Go for it. No problems that can't be fixed with a little reading here at xda.

jacera said:
i have been hearing about these issues such as overheating, speaker problems, connectivity problems and screen issues. so i wanted to know if these issues are really popular on the phone or not, and on average after how much time do they appear(so that the phone wud be replaced if under warranty)?
PS im not buying it from play store, its from a retailer outside US
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my 2 core PC has 3 fan man
all 4 core devices have this overheating.. its not issue

I've never had any issues with mine. It will get warm, but never so much I can't touch it. Go for, is still the best smartphone deal out there!
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Just got mine last week and no issues. Best phone I've had

the issues you wrote arent real issues

jacera said:
i have been hearing about these issues such as overheating, speaker problems, connectivity problems and screen issues. so i wanted to know if these issues are really popular on the phone or not, and on average after how much time do they appear(so that the phone wud be replaced if under warranty)?
PS im not buying it from play store, its from a retailer outside US
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Have my nexus about 5 months, no overheating. People mistakenly say overheating because they feel the phone is hot due to its glass case, if the case were plastic or some other material you wouldn't be able to feel the temp as much and you would hear no talk of overheating. I've checked my temps and have never reached any where near what is actually considered hot.
My speaker is pretty darn good, just my opinion.... I would've loved for it to be positioned on the front like the one but other than that I have no complaints about the speaker.
I've had connectivity issues but I'm on T-Mobile so I wonder who's more to blame tmo or lg/Google lol.
Best phone I've ever owned, there isn't a phone that will beat it at its price point. There is no one in this world that can convince me that the s4 or one are worth $300+ more than my n4.
Just my biased opinion take it with a grain of salt but all of it is true....best of luck!
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Never had any overheat on mine. Got it in April-May, and it's still going very fast and smooth without problems.
Best. Smartphone. Ever.

Only had overheating on stock ROM and kernel. throw some custom stuff on there, maybe a little undervolting and you'll be golden. After all it is a nexus.
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nyyankees1237 said:
Only had overheating on stock ROM and kernel. throw some custom stuff on there, maybe a little undervolting and you'll be golden. After all it is a nexus.
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youre phone wasnt overheating, it just got warm. those are two different things. when your phone is about to overheat, it automatically shuts down as a safety. using the phone to do anything cpu intensive will get it warm, just like any other device.

No, it's not safe at all. It kills more people than smoking.

Beerad875 said:
No, it's not safe at all. It kills more people than smoking.
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i think u got me wrong, try reading the whole question first and then reply, it will turn out to be much better for u

jacera said:
i think u got me wrong, try reading the whole question first and then reply, it will turn out to be much better for u
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If you're not accustomed to sarcasm, you definitely came to the wrong place.

I am also thinking to buy n4 in India where average temperature is between 35 to 40 degree. Is it affecting the device?
Which kind of problems to n4 holders are facing?...

jacera said:
i have been hearing about these issues such as overheating, speaker problems, connectivity problems and screen issues. so i wanted to know if these issues are really popular on the phone or not, and on average after how much time do they appear(so that the phone wud be replaced if under warranty)?
PS im not buying it from play store, its from a retailer outside US
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Mine came from the second batch, no problems so far. Also my brother has a nexus and he has no problems also. For me is the best phone out there (if your a nexus fan)

Everything is fine on mine, haven't had a problem. A sleight drop of frames and that's all. The lag was easily fixed though. Heating is normal, but I haven't experienced to much heat that it is uncomfortable to hold or anything. Best phone I ever had. Best phone for the price.
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jacera said:
i think u got me wrong, try reading the whole question first and then reply, it will turn out to be much better for u
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I think you got me wrong, observe the social actions of XDA, then reply, it will turn out to be much better for you.

Beerad875 said:
I think you got me wrong, observe the social actions of XDA, then reply, it will turn out to be much better for you.
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i know you were trying to be sarcastic and this would have actually have been funny if i had not given a description to the question(which could have meant i was asking if it was safe only due to overheating), but i mentioned a whole lot of other things in the description clearly meaning i wasnt concerned with overheating only and so by safe i accurately meant that the device would not malfunction, and thus i said read the whole thing before making a joke, it will turn out much better for you as it would actually make your sarcastic jokes funny

estallings15 said:
If you're not accustomed to sarcasm, you definitely came to the wrong place.
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i am accustomed to sarcasm and read my reply to the other sarcastic guy, it will clear things up

My Nexus 4 somes awakes during the night and gets into all of these shenanigans. Then I have to drive out to the police station and bail it out. So many issues it has. I'm just waiting for the day it strangles me in my sleep.

Quite fast out of the box.

Had the note 3 since Friday coming from the note 2. Was a little surprised by the quadrant results. Are they right or is it a bug?
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No they are right
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So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol

Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.

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So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol
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It's really not necessary with LiPo batteries. Mine came with 50% charge, just use it.

^^ Just use it. Plus, you can always plug it in and use it at the same time! Enjoy!

skally said:
It's really not necessary with LiPo batteries. Mine came with 50% charge, just use it.
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guess its been a minute since I've had a new phone lol. I remember having to charge it for "X" amount of time so the battery's memory was started correctly

SgtGoldy said:
So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol
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The battery had around 50% so I was able to get started right away.

clninja said:
Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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LMAO... Thinking the same thing, I can care less about that I want to know if it feels faster than the note 2.

looks right ran quadrant on the demo unit at AT&T last night and ran 21k twice.

clninja said:
Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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It helps you determine if you should even bother installing and configuring more processor intensive apps

Yeah it does seem high though.
As for the battery I also had 50% charge ran it right down until it switched it's self off then full charge overnight.
As for how it feels. I am coming from the note 2 and the whole experience feels different the phone is so snappy no lag what so ever. It feels like I am holding the s2 with the weight and dimensions.
I run a custom app for my work doing test sheets exporting data from laptop to this and vis versa, it runs seamlessly where as it was really slow on the note 2.
The only thing that bugs me so far is that there are no official cases out yet.
Let's just hope it keeps running as strong.
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clninja said:
Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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Exactly. When I read the title of the thread I was expecting OP to tell us how blown away he was by the performance, come to find out its stupid idiotic annoying benchmarks.
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I have bad news for you. The machine is quite fast but Samsung cheated on the benchmarks. Read this link: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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KruseLudsMobile said:
I have bad news for you. The machine is quite fast but Samsung cheated on the benchmarks. Read this link: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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If the device is fast then that's all that matters. Benchmarks are for those who want to measure their tiny wieners.
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Lol
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barondebxl said:
Exactly. When I read the title of the thread I was expecting OP to tell us how blown away he was by the performance, come to find out its stupid idiotic annoying benchmarks.
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I am blown away from the performance. But like the statement says I don't think the results jump in the "idiotic annoying benchmarks" is true to the out right performance from the note 2. Which I guess is now explained in other threads with the manipulation of benchmarks.
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Samsung always cheat on quadrant scores and its due to all the sites that obsess about them I just go on personal opinion if it feels faster and performs better I couldn't care less I have never even downloaded quadrant as its a load of balls if you want to see how good your device is fire up loads of apps do some multitasking or play a game like modern combat 4
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SgtGoldy said:
guess its been a minute since I've had a new phone lol. I remember having to charge it for "X" amount of time so the battery's memory was started correctly
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That was the case with NiCad batteries. That doesn't need to be done for lithium batteries. Nevertheless, store reps never fail to recite that procedure whenever a customer buys a new phone. I just nodded my head and went on my way when I picked up the S4. I'll probably get the same spiel when I pick up my N3 tomorrow... err later today.

Albaholic said:
That was the case with NiCad batteries. That doesn't need to be done for lithium batteries. Nevertheless, store reps never fail to recite that procedure whenever a customer buys a new phone. I just nodded my head and went on my way when I picked up the S4. I'll probably get the same spiel when I pick up my N3 tomorrow... err later today.
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Cool, thanks for the info Albaholic :highfive:. I'm surprised I didn't find this out sooner.

GearVR - SGS7 Edge overheating

I'm using the GearVR which I've got for the SGS6 Edge (works well with the SGS7 as well).
I do get messages while using it, that my phone is heating up and that I should disconnect my SGS7 and let it cool down before continuing.
Did anyone try to use the SGS7 Edge with GearVR? Are you facing the same issue?

Chipsets have auto-shutdown to make sure it's not damaged.

gilbnx said:
I'm using the GearVR which I've got for the SGS6 Edge (works well with the SGS7 as well).
I do get messages while using it, that my phone is heating up and that I should disconnect my SGS7 and let it cool down before continuing.
Did anyone try to use the SGS7 Edge with GearVR? Are you facing the same issue?
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Noticed the same observation made on the Oculus/Gear VR forums. Here is his words exactly. I was hoping that all that heat pipe talk allowed the phone to operate for longer periods.
"- Heating is still an issue - after 30 or so minutes of heavy use and downloading various apps and games I received a warning that I need to coll down the phone for optimal performance. However, unlike with S6 I did not notice any slowdown in performance when the phone overheated. "
https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30325

cdmoore74 said:
Noticed the same observation made on the Oculus/Gear VR forums. Here is his words exactly. I was hoping that all that heat pipe talk allowed the phone to operate for longer periods.
"- Heating is still an issue - after 30 or so minutes of heavy use and downloading various apps and games I received a warning that I need to coll down the phone for optimal performance. However, unlike with S6 I did not notice any slowdown in performance when the phone overheated. "
https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30325
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Right, I didn't notice any degradation in performance but at some point it didn't let me continue at all; I really had to take it out and let it rest. Given all the promotions and announcements, one would think they have made this solution work for more than 15-20min before the phone heats up and needs to rest... I hope for Samsung that updates will come out soon to better optimize the software and avoid the overheating problems.

I had the same issue for my Note 4 Gear. That's why I am selling the Gear once I get it, not even worth it if you can't watch a full movie through it..

Did you leave the outside lid off? I heard that helps.
Samsung needs to just release a cover with built-in fans. The people who added fans to the cover themselves said it fixed the problem.

I also had the same problem.what should I want to do I don't know Exactly

This doesn't sound good. I wanted the Gear VR specifically for watching movies in private

CuBz90 said:
This doesn't sound good. I wanted the Gear VR specifically for watching movies in private
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I may be mistaken, but I think the issue mainly arises when playing games as that pushes the gpu much harder.

Xileforce said:
I may be mistaken, but I think the issue mainly arises when playing games as that pushes the gpu much harder.
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I hope so. I don't play games much so that wouldn't be an issue for me.

I wonder if the Exynos model handles this better. I was told in the Samsung shop on Sunday that the GearVR demo model I tried had been in use all day and there was a queue if people waiting to use it behind me and my son as well. Fingers crossed.

So much for watercooling I guess.

It was always a PR gimmick.

Beefheart said:
It was always a PR gimmick.
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To be fair. My snapdragon version definitely runs noticeably cooler side by side doing the same tasks as my s6

Beefheart said:
I wonder if the Exynos model handles this better. I was told in the Samsung shop on Sunday that the GearVR demo model I tried had been in use all day and there was a queue if people waiting to use it behind me and my son as well. Fingers crossed.
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I went into a Samsung store and it was quite empty so I had a free roam of the S7 and Edge. I did see the Gear VR just sat there but didn't reallt think to try it out. I wish I had.

Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling

mklass said:
Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling
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Brilliant!! :laugh:

mklass said:
Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling
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Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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_Dennis_ said:
Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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I think he was joking

_Dennis_ said:
Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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Lol, I wonder if that would actually happen. Will be a good test that.
I've had a boiling hot pint glass run under a freezing cold tap a few times and never witnessed and cracking, I'm sure if a pint pot can hold up gorilla glass 4 should.
As I say would be a good test for some one to do.
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I think he was joking
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At least you get my sarcasm that will do me haha

Is the 6P still a good buy at $370

Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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I just jumped on a 64gb one for $320 including shipping and was thrilled to get it
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EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Hi... There are a few issues.
Check these threads..:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nexus-6p-randomly-shutting-50-youre-t3522911
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
Also can get a bit hot during intensive tasks or game playing (thanks to snapdragon 810)
What else... I don't have anything else in mind at the moment...

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Bought mine in November last year. No regrets. Love the lowlight pics and stereo speakers. Latest monthly security patches. Pixel mod. No battery issues. Not tempted by any other phone.

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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The only phone I can see really competing with the 6p at a price point of $400 or less is the One Plus 3t. Its like Nexus software (vanilla Android) that a dev got to and modded with all the extra goodies (customizations), has the most up to date CPU/GPU (till the S8 is released). What it's lacking in comparison to the 6P... 6P has front facing stereo speakers, QHD display (3T has 1080p) Faster updates, monthly security patches.
I personally can't give up my 6P to anything offered currently. I may consider the One Plus 4 if it has the SD835 in the fall but I think you won't do much better then the 6P at that price point.

The Nexus6p is worth the treat and especially on XDA!

Eric214 said:
The only phone I can see really competing with the 6p at a price point of $400 or less is the One Plus 3t. Its like Nexus software (vanilla Android) that a dev got to and modded with all the extra goodies (customizations), has the most up to date CPU/GPU (till the S8 is released). What it's lacking in comparison to the 6P... 6P has front facing stereo speakers, QHD display (3T has 1080p) Faster updates, monthly security patches.
I personally can't give up my 6P to anything offered currently. I may consider the One Plus 4 if it has the SD835 in the fall but I think you won't do much better then the 6P at that price point.
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Ya. 3T and axon 7 are close rivals. I thought of getting the axon 7 but a friend beat me to it. Glad I didn't. After playing with it, everything else is a downgrade except the speakers. With the latest software every month, I can't imagine going back to outdated software, even if it's only a month.

If it's new and still in box then I would say that it's definitely a solid deal. With that being said I'm sure you can find one that has been used that's still in good condition for a little under $300 depending on where you look.

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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Jammol said:
Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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Maybe, but that battery issue I fully believe is from ppl not knowing or understanding how to take care of their battery. Most ppl don't know when or how to charge the battery. My battery is exactly 1 year old, bought my phone mid February last year and I still have 93% of my battery capacity. Most I read are well into 60% or lower that have this battery issue. So I'm thinking it's mainly cause by ppl letting their batteries get below 15-10% regularly. Look up and read about charge cycles on battery university of you don't understand what I'm saying.

No issues whatsoever, a highly recommended phone.

Eric214 said:
Maybe, but that battery issue I fully believe is from ppl not knowing or understanding how to take care of their battery. Most ppl don't know when or how to charge the battery. My battery is exactly 1 year old, bought my phone mid February last year and I still have 93% of my battery capacity. Most I read are well into 60% or lower that have this battery issue. So I'm thinking it's mainly cause by ppl letting their batteries get below 15-10% regularly. Look up and read about charge cycles on battery university of you don't understand what I'm saying.
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I understand what you're saying and I know about charge cycles of batteries of different types and structural integrity but I will have to disagree about it being a user error. I just sent in RMA number 6, had it for a week, battery health was 98%. I never let my devices die after a bad experience I had with the Samsung Galaxy SII. Battery died on it and it never turned back on until I got a new battery. That was years ago though.
The other reason I don't think it's a battery issue.....it's happening to brand new Pixel devices.
Don't get me wrong, I love the 6P and I think it's a good device. But this late in the game, I would say pass because of what's happening to them, and the specs of it....processor wise that is.

i got mine for 200 euro

Don't buy one that doesn't come with a full warranty --and if available an extended warranty might not be a bad deal for this particular phone. The problem is that too many people are experiencing boot looping that turns the 6P into an expensive paper weight if you don't have a warranty. The phone is great if you don't get a lemon.

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Don't buy one that doesn't come with a full warranty --and if available an extended warranty might not be a bad deal for this particular phone. The problem is that too many people are experiencing boot looping that turns the 6P into an expensive paper weight if you don't have a warranty. The phone is great if you don't get a lemon.
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i m actually getting mine in the mail with a us warrenty

Jammol said:
Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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The "battery issue" is not so common. It looks common because those with issues will likely post/complain about the issue versus those that do not have issues.
Those without any issues generally don't start threads about issues or post in threads saying "no issues" since it doesn't apply to them.
I'll also like to add that there are reports of other phones with the shut down issue, with some saying it could be software related. I could recall Franco talking about voltage drops or something along those lines in relation to cold environments.
Truth is, every phone will have their share of issues. Find the one that best suits you. Some may say it's worth it while others could disagree. I personally wouldn't spend over $250 on a cell phone.
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richii0207 said:
The "battery issue" is not so common. It looks common because those with issues will likely post/complain about the issue versus those that do not have issues.
Those without any issues generally don't start threads about issues or post in threads saying "no issues" since it doesn't apply to them.
I'll also like to add that there are reports of other phones with the shut down issue, with some saying it could be software related. I could recall Franco talking about voltage drops or something along those lines in relation to cold environments.
Truth is, every phone will have their share of issues. Find the one that best suits you. Some may say it's worth it while others could disagree. I personally wouldn't spend over $250 on a cell phone.
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Dude have you seen Reddit? I'm sorry but what's your definition of large?! Just saying. Lets not try to down play the issue. Just because everyone doesn't complain about it, doesn't mean it's not a lot of people having the issue.

I'd say no.
I love this phone and the front facing speakers, but let's be real, here. The 810, however well optimized in this phone, still isn't the greatest. Battery life is all over the place. It can be good if you use battery saving profiles, turn off a lot of functions, and can deal with stuttering. If you want buttery smooth UI, battery life is around 3-4 hours of screen time, if you're lucky.
It can get hot, too.
For $370, I'd rather get a OnePlus 3T. Yeah it doesn't have the front facing speakers or a 1440p AMOLED display. But it trumps the 6P performance wise and battery life wise.
If you could find one for maybe $300, max, then I'd say it's a decent deal. But $370 for a 2 year old phone with a flawed soc? You can do better.

Jammol said:
I understand what you're saying and I know about charge cycles of batteries of different types and structural integrity but I will have to disagree about it being a user error. I just sent in RMA number 6, had it for a week, battery health was 98%. I never let my devices die after a bad experience I had with the Samsung Galaxy SII. Battery died on it and it never turned back on until I got a new battery. That was years ago though.
The other reason I don't think it's a battery issue.....it's happening to brand new Pixel devices.
Don't get me wrong, I love the 6P and I think it's a good device. But this late in the game, I would say pass because of what's happening to them, and the specs of it....processor wise that is.
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I haven't heard of any new device having the issue, just older phones. But all said and done, I would certainly be looking at the One Plus 3T. I think if anyone is not going to wait for a phone with the SD835 in it then I'd look at the 3T. It doesn't have the front facing stereo speakers and and its only 1080p but I'd probably only get the 6P if those are important the buyer.

I got mine when it was released in Germany in November 2015. I'm very satisfied with it. No problems with this strange battery bug, everything's fine here.
Phone is running smoothly, I can't complain. I think it's a good price and you don't have to worry - you just have to keep in mind that it's a bit older phone regarding the specs. But it's still great!
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