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G1 died today.....what phone to get

So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!

The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.

I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.

mygti02 said:
So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck

mygti02 said:
Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.

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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.

Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?

ddotpatel said:
Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.

HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.

If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do

and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.

mZimm said:
No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)

Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto

brettf said:
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.

WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review

There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review

legend221 said:
There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.

only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire

Thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab

Hello. I'm a noob to the Galaxy tab. I'm thinking about picking one up (i'm in the U.S., from Los Angeles Area) and just wanted to clarify. I know the European version can be used as a phone but i'm unsure of the tmobile U.S. version. From what I've read, i've found that the Tmobile U.S. version can be used as a phone as well but it needs to be rooted? I just wanted to clarify if this is true or not. This is kind of a deal breaker for me and i may just get a huwaei s7 if there is no phone functionality (without rooting it)

You have to root and flash on the euro software.

iLoveGoogle said:
You have to root and flash on the euro software.
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thanks for the quick reply. *sigh. i was hoping i wouldn't have to root it. darn. oh well. i guess i'll be going with the s7. damn. i wanted the tab too. oh well.

lkrfn5283 said:
thanks for the quick reply. *sigh. i was hoping i wouldn't have to root it. darn. oh well. i guess i'll be going with the s7. damn. i wanted the tab too. oh well.
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The Huawei S7? I thought that thing was supposed to be pretty awful, no?

I played with one at Best Buy and it is horrid!

raqball said:
I played with one at Best Buy and it is horrid!
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I have had a tab for 2 weeks now. I am very satisfied amd would recommemd it. It is bette than the ipad. It can make phone calls and very fast. I am browsing xda on it too with the xda app.
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I've heard mixed reviews about the s7. Some hate it, others rave that its the best tablet for your buck. i'm going to try one out. Its 299 at best buy, unlocked without a contract and it has voice calling out of the box. The tab does have that ability, but stateside you'd have to root the galaxy tab and install the euro software to enable that feature, which is something i don't want to do.

lkrfn5283 said:
I've heard mixed reviews about the s7. Some hate it, others rave that its the best tablet for your buck. i'm going to try one out. Its 299 at best buy, unlocked without a contract and it has voice calling out of the box. The tab does have that ability, but stateside you'd have to root the galaxy tab and install the euro software to enable that feature, which is something i don't want to do.
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i bought mine unlocked for £469 in uk (carphone warehouse) it has been widely promoted throughout the uk. imo, i think that it is a fantastic piece of hardware. the only concern i have with it is the lack of apps. yes, Android has a growing market, bug half the apps are useless. on the ipad, all apps have to pass a test. long story short. if you want more games and apps i recommend another tablet (ipad) if you want a smaller lightweight device go with the tab. web browsing on it is amazing. good luck if you need anymore help you can ask me

raqball said:
I played with one at Best Buy and it is horrid!
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Agreed, the S7 thing is just not well made or fast enough to be useful

And what's the big deal about rooting? It's reversible.

You do realize that rooting your Tab is as simple as installing an app from the Market and tapping the 'root' button, right? There's even an 'unroot' button right next to it if you need to reverse it.

Why don't you get asian or european one? in India i got it for approx 700USD, no lock no agreement nothing and all functions working
Cheers

Rapax said:
You do realize that rooting your Tab is as simple as installing an app from the Market and tapping the 'root' button, right? There's even an 'unroot' button right next to it if you need to reverse it.
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did not realize that. i've hacked other various devices and was just tired of going through the process of doing so. I wanted something that I could just use out of the box, but if this is the case then i'll have to reconsider. Can you utilize tmobiles 3g or 4g with the euro software?

Hey, I just got the Galaxy Tab unlocked from sprint two days ago but did have to buy a month of 3g. My question is, since I bought it off contract can I use Verizon with it when my month with sprint is up?
also, is there a better way for rooting other than those one click apps? I tried one once for my moto droid but went back to doing it properly with abd because the one click seemed kind of sloppy and half-a$$ed
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taintphuck said:
Hey, I just got the Galaxy Tab unlocked from sprint two days ago but did have to buy a month of 3g. My question is, since I bought it off contract can I use Verizon with it when my month with sprint is up?
also, is there a better way for rooting other than those one click apps? I tried one once for my moto droid but went back to doing it properly with abd because the one click seemed kind of sloppy and half-a$$ed
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No, you can not use a Verizon device on Sprint, or vice versa. They will NOT allow an ESN from another carrier to be active on their network. Should have went with T-Mobile or AT&T if you wanted carrier portability.
And don't compare your Droid **** with what the Galaxy devs have cooked up. This ain't a Motorola device, for one thing (thank God!).

I havent compared my "droid ****" to anything...I said that I prefer using adb and RSD Lite over one click rooting apps, referencing to my Droid only vaguely in passing. As for choosing the Sprint version...shame on me for being unclear as to the specifics of various different mobile technologies and their interoperability, or lack thereof. I suppose that is why I casually asked about it here.
Lighten up, you phone nerd.
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I love my s7 so screw you haters on my jock.
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Croak said:
No, you can not use a Verizon device on Sprint, or vice versa. They will NOT allow an ESN from another carrier to be active on their network. Should have went with T-Mobile or AT&T if you wanted carrier portability.
And don't compare your Droid **** with what the Galaxy devs have cooked up. This ain't a Motorola device, for one thing (thank God!).
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I spilled my ice tea reading the "Droid ****" comment. Imagine the Motorola commercial saying, "Drrrrooid Sssshhhhiit"

Give you mi two cents.
Let me begin asuring you that i am the antyfanboy. If something doesnt satisfy me 100% it gets sold within the week. Foolling myself is something i dont do.
So when i heard about the tab i was rather exceptic for several reasons.
1.price
2.no superamoled
3.being samsung after i suffered the horrible galaxy s.
4. In general not many positive reviews.
So when i had one for testing i was pleasently surprised. One of the overall best gadgets i have tried. And i have tried many.
Even the screen that as i said it not superamoled is in my opinión an excellent screen that doesnt have nothing to envy the one i have in my ipad.
In conclusion, if you want or need a mobile device to work on the go evwrywhere with easy, this is it.
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SGS2 and AT&T Questions Thread - I have A lot of questions!!

Howdy,
Full disclosure - I plan to cross post this thread of different Android forums, so don't get irritated with me!
A little back story - I've been an Iphone owner since the beginning and truly love the Apple ecosystem. However, I started to get downright bored with the phone and the restrictions placed upon it. I'm sorry but if you are not "allowed" to even custom change your SMS tone what does that say? Plus....I have an Ipad
Now, I have the Samsung Infuse (AT&T) and I love it. However, I one that likes to have the latest and greatest and am willing to pay the money for it. Also, if I am going to be locked into AT&T for at least 2 years, I want a phone that is future proof. Now, I know the Galaxy S2 is suppose to come out soon, however, I am currently in my 30 day window and may not be able to wait that long. Therefore, my plan is to by the Galaxy S2 while I still keep my Infuse and test them both over the next 30 days.
With that said, I have a couple of questions:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
Thank you all soooooooooooo kindly for helping me. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

angieutc said:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
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You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
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See 2.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
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It should be the same.
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
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I'm not your mother.
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
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Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
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Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.

BarryH_GEG said:
Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
It should be the same.
I'm not your mother.
Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions

Purchased mine from Handtec, and it was shipped right after it was released in the UK. I can't see myself ever buying another AT&T branded & neutered/downgraded subsidized phone ever again.
The phone is simply awesome. In a sense, this is the first time I've felt a device *could* last me longer than the usual 1 year refresh cycle. Reason for this is simply because of its sheer processing power. For instance, I just revised my framework-res.apk file last night to have the browser ALWAYS load the desktop version of websites instead of the dumbed down mobile websites that both Android and Apple devices default to. I can actually do this and live with the performance because unlike other phones, desktop version of websites on the SGSII are no slower than the mobile/wap versions... they are as fast and fluid as viewing them on a notebook computer. And, this is even before the SGSII's hardware is properly supported as I believe the current Gingerbread 2.3.3 OS doesn't fully support dual core quite yet.
The only downfall I see is what I'm experiencing with my 2 buddies (previous IPhone users) that I talked into getting an SGSII. Don't get me wrong, they love the phone and would never see themselves going back to Apple. But, they now have to rely on me to do a lot of the tweaking for them because editing system files, decompiling/editing/compiling apks, flashing with Odin... they simply aren't comfortable with all that yet, especially since Apple handed them everything on a silver platter (to which they blindly accepted everytime). They'll get there, but for the time being, I've been labeled the local Android Guru/Master/Swamy/etc.
Other than those points, I echo Barry's feedback verbatim. And, I do hope your Mom is more attractive than Barry, I can barely stand the sight of him on a good day.

angieutc said:
Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
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I was kidding with 6. It's obviously a personal decision. See if anyone that lives near you or in a city that you travel to will let you play with theirs. I love my phone, it's rock solid, and can't think of anything I'd want instead. But again, that's just a personal opinion.

Verizon Note 4 thread

Since no one has started one I thought I might do so. Place all of your comments and concerns here.

My concern is..it'll be later than the other carriers since it hasn't even passed through the fcc yet. This entire launch is becoming as bad as the g3 launch

It's past through fcc I saw it earlier today
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Rippley05 said:
My concern is..it'll be later than the other carriers since it hasn't even passed through the fcc yet. This entire launch is becoming as bad as the g3 launch
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You have a link? I have seen Sprint and either Tmobile or at&t but not Verizon
*edit* never mind, I see it has passed through. Hopefully this means Verizon won't repeat what it did with the Note 3 and be the last to release it.

One of my pulse news channels named all 4 US major carriers don't have a link for proof but I also have nothing to gain by lying about it
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I believe the Verizon version passed through the FCC on September 12th as SM-N910V

My concern is we will be stuck with a locked boatloader forever and not be able to flash custom ROMS!

Yup, locked boot loader forever. Safstrap maybe.
Let's hope root can be accomplished fast.
Phones need to be announced near release dates. I hate having to wait 3,4,5 months for a phone.

leyvatron said:
Yup, locked boot loader forever. Safstrap maybe.
Let's hope root can be accomplished fast.
Phones need to be announced near release dates. I hate having to wait 3,4,5 months for a phone.
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Agree. What worries me is the lawsuit from (nvidia?) and the fact that it may need to be classified as a medical device slowing things down even more. Hopefully not, but we'll see.

What worries me is that samsung wont offer a note 4 developer edition

oneandroidnut said:
What worries me is that samsung wont offer a note 4 developer edition
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That could be a problem.
Another benefit of Verizon being last is that the rooting method should exist by then.

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That could be a problem.
Another benefit of Verizon being last is that the rooting method should exist by then.
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that could be it though. take my g3 for example. they said bootloader should become unlockable. well here we are months later and only root yay i really need developer edition note 4 to have everything available at my fingertips

After the G3, I don't think I'm ever buying another phone with a locked bootloader. Just waiting on Samsung to announce a developer edition. That would be the best situation.

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What worries me is that samsung wont offer a note 4 developer edition
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Don't worry, Verizon developer edition is a waste of money. Not worth it and will not get much development.

leyvatron said:
Don't worry, Verizon developer edition is a waste of money. Not worth it and will not get much development.
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That is your opinion. I still have unlimited so I have to buy off contract anyways so no difference in money. And even if Verizon doesn't have much development I can run tmobile stuff and be fine. That's why the developer phones sell out though cause they aren't worth it lol

oneandroidnut said:
That is your opinion. I still have unlimited so I have to buy off contract anyways so no difference in money. And even if Verizon doesn't have much development I can run tmobile stuff and be fine. That's why the developer phones sell out though cause they aren't worth it lol
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I have unlimited also. A lot of difference in price. Locked boot loader will drop in price or will be sold for less than what Verizon is asking for. Unlocked will be sold by Samsung for $800 dollars or more and will sell out because they have little stock not because its a hot item for Verizon.
I have Verizon, why would I buy a Verizon phone to use with T-Mobile? Why not buy a T-Mobile Note? T-Mobile always gets unlocked and you save money.

leyvatron said:
I have unlimited also. A lot of difference in price. Locked boot loader will drop in price or will be sold for less than what Verizon is asking for. Unlocked will be sold by Samsung for $800 dollars or more and will sell out because they have little stock.
I have Verizon, why would I buy a Verizon phone to use with T-Mobile? Why not buy a T-Mobile Note? T-Mobile always gets unlocked and you save money.
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Price was $699 for developer edition last year. $750 to my door. And they choose to make only a few it's a simple software unlock just the general public doesn't have access to it.
And I have Verizon too but a Verizon developer edition is basically a tmobile device with Verizon radios. You can run tmobile recovery/roms/kernels etc

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Price was $699 for developer edition last year. $750 to my door. And they choose to make only a few it's a simple software unlock just the general public doesn't have access to it.
And I have Verizon too but a Verizon developer edition is basically a tmobile device with Verizon radios. You can run tmobile recovery/roms/kernels etc
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$750 is a lot of money for an unlocked boot loader to get one or two ROMs that are full of bugs. Also, You lose s-pen features (i dont really use the spen on my note 3) and other tw features like fingerprint, heartbeat monitor, and other stuff that is never ported correctly.
Verizon boot loader locked device can also be used with T-Mobile. Pop in your Sim and you are ready to go.
So what ROM are you running on your note 3 now?

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$750 is a lot of money for an unlocked boot loader to get one or two ROMs that are full of bugs. Also, You lose s-pen features (i dont really use the spen on my note 3) and other tw features like fingerprint, heartbeat monitor, and other stuff that is never ported correctly.
Verizon boot loader locked device can also be used with T-Mobile. Pop in your Sim and you are ready to go.
So what ROM are you running on your note 3 now?
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$750 is a lot of money but I'm going to spend that anyways on my device for next 8+ months. Not going to buy used not my cup of tea for that expensive of a phone. Who said you lose those features? You can keep the spen etc they are enhanced not lost.
And I sold my note 3 awhile back to save some money for note 4
But when I did I usually ran hyper with imos kernel. But I also liked to experiment with pacman and other aosp builds

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$750 is a lot of money but I'm going to spend that anyways on my device for next 8+ months. Not going to buy used not my cup of tea for that expensive of a phone. Who said you lose those features? You can keep the spen etc they are enhanced not lost.
And I sold my note 3 awhile back to save some money for note 4
But when I did I usually ran hyper with imos kernel. But I also liked to experiment with pacman and other aosp builds
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The spen worked with aosp? I didn't know that. That's good news. Used is my cup of tea just not beat up.

AT&T Will Let Customers With Replacement Galaxy Note 7s Swap Out Their Devices

Bad news for Samsung keeps on coming
AT&T will allow any of its customers with replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 devices to swap them out for a different smartphone, the company tells The Verge. The move follows Sprint's decision to let its customers return replacement Note 7s for a device from a different manufacturer on the heels of a replacement Note 7 catching fire on a plane earlier this week. The US Consumer Product Safety Commission has opened an investigation into the fire.
At this rate it's likely that Verizon and T-Mobile won't be too far behind in offering to swap out replacement Note 7 devices. With the uncertainty around the safety of the Note 7, offering a full exchange is the easiest way to ease the worries of consumers until the CPSC completes its investigation. If you're an AT&T or Sprint customer, you can take your replacement Note 7 back to the carriers' respective retail stores and exchange the devices for another smartphone of your choosing.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...tt-samsung-galaxy-note-7-replacement-exchange

Interesting. Not sure what i would do. So far i am enjoying my replacement note 7. If it comes to it i guess i will have to make a decision but i need more info before making that move. Its a shame, Samsung makes good stuff, its unfortunate they are having these issues. We shall see
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If the pixel lured me more I would be all over this but it's just meh. Only reason would be for the software and to be honest. touchwiz isn't as bad as I remember it...this is coming from a nexus guy.

I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.

sugaman said:
I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.
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Yeah I also called. The rep put me on hold to do some research on it and read it . It's something all reps doesn't know about yet. You have to the end of the month to do so. I have the option to switch it out to another device or just return it for a free refund. He made sure that was stated on my account for me to not have problems.

sugaman said:
I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.
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Yep, it's probably craziness in the near future for us, all over again. All four carriers are allowing an exchange now, Ihttps://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/circuitbreaker/2016/10/7/13202250/att-samsung-galaxy-note-7-replacement-exchange
I don't see a future with note 7 in hand. I do love the phone., hope it's not recalled again but its not looking good.
At leaset in the next few weeks we will have a few more phone choices...... unlike last month. I am thinking of.jumping to the V20 if a 2nd recall happens

This really sucks because I've fallen in love with my Note 7. There's not even any other phone on AT&T that I would get with the exception of the S7 edge. I'm really hoping this guy turns out to be a scam artist.

dooku77 said:
This really sucks because I've fallen in love with my Note 7. There's not even any other phone on AT&T that I would get with the exception of the S7 edge. I'm really hoping this guy turns out to be a scam artist.
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Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.

Chadly said:
Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.
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I know. I might jump ship. The carrier's have to know something. Since when does AT&T reach out to Android Central to tell them they are also on board with the device turn in.

I feel there is little choice but to change. It's only a matter of time before the next report of a burning replacement and good luck selling this second hand in the future . I will try the v20. I wish I had kept my Note5 and not lost $350 on selling it.
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Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.
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I've been thinking the same thing all day. A CSPC official said in an article that if the phone was a replacement one that there will more than likely be another recall.
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and here i am completely unable to even buy a note 7. AT&T keeps telling me no since i opted for the refund instead of a loaner phone. I fumed so much over that.
Not even sure which phone to go with. The Note 7 was the only phone that checked all the boxes. I sold my S7 Edge to get it, and I am not going to go buy another one.
-big screen
-water resistance
-expandable storage
-fast charging
-no on screen buttons

Not necessarily guys, relax. They may be doing this just to cover their own ass. I would like to believe that if anything real serious was known an announcement would be made my Samsung.
We shall see i the days to come. Samsung reacted quickly the 1st time, lets see what happens
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I just hope the v20 has a good screen.
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Mayonesa said:
Not necessarily guys, relax. They may be doing this just to cover their own ass. I would like to believe that if anything real serious was known an announcement would be made my Samsung.
We shall see i the days to come. Samsung reacted quickly the 1st time, lets see what happens
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I just feel this phone will be at the bottom.of the pile like a non flagship budget. For cases, accessories, updates ect... . Not many people are on board with the note 7, if there is no recall not many will be on board with all the bad press. So why would anyone put any effort or invest money/more products into the note 7. Speaking. Of, we will surely not see a functional.curved glass SP. In my line of work tempered sp is a must. One reason why I may go v20, same.screen real estate as the note 7 but not curved so SP will actually stay on.
The note 7 and bogo deal was the only reason I upgraded and added a phone to my plan. Samsung had no other device I want so now I may get screwed out of the bogo and have to pay more each month than I had originally planned and I can't take back my note 5 now, which I gave to our functioning disabled son

Its absolutely tragic that this is happening. I really wanted this device to be my go to for the next couple of years. Its my first phone since the Note 4 was released and its a beast! I guess in the race to create a flagship like this Samsung has finally cut too many corners. It seems to me that the inherent design of the battery and the chassis just aren't optimal. They should have spent a bit more time on the battery enclosure and possibly reduced the battery capacity slightly to compensate for the tight tolerances. Im not even really sure that would have done anything to help. But anyhow, I think the rest of the community will probably feel the pain. I have already started looking at other devices, leaning (for the first time in 8 years) towards another iPhone. Or I can go to the Pixel xl. Everything other than the Note 7 released this year has been such a let down though.

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Its absolutely tragic that this is happening. I really wanted this device to be my go to for the next couple of years. Its my first phone since the Note 4 was released and its a beast! I guess in the race to create a flagship like this Samsung has finally cut too many corners. It seems to me that the inherent design of the battery and the chassis just aren't optimal. They should have spent a bit more time on the battery enclosure and possibly reduced the battery capacity slightly to compensate for the tight tolerances. Im not even really sure that would have done anything to help. But anyhow, I think the rest of the community will probably feel the pain. I have already started looking at other devices, leaning (for the first time in 8 years) towards another iPhone. Or I can go to the Pixel xl. Everything other than the Note 7 released this year has been such a let down though.
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I'm in the exact position bro. Wow off topic but I just took my phone in the shower with me and obviously it got soaked and now the loud speaker sounds all distorted...

Chadly said:
I'm in the exact position bro. Wow off topic but I just took my phone in the shower with me and obviously it got soaked and now the loud speaker sounds all distorted...
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For sure! Yikes, I believe that steam and heat actually causes the rubber seals to loosen a bit. Its one of the only ways that you can actually get water damage on these devices other than taking them too deep in the water. Sorry bud, Im sure you can still give it back though when/if you decide too. lol

So it's not normal for the loudspeaker to sound like crap after? It seems like it's back to normal now.

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So it's not normal for the loudspeaker to sound like crap after? It seems like it's back to normal now.
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Yes it is normal until it dries out.