So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.
I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.
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So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck
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Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.
Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?
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Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.
If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do
and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.
WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review
There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.
only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire
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If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
im buying a blackberry or htc hero this week. im done with winmo.
Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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yeah but i wonder what the price tag will be? better start saving now zen.
I can't imagine the phone NOT being subsidized in part by the carrier, you know... like everything else they've ever put out - it'll just be close to half a million when it first comes out like it always is.
But yes, I like the touch a lot but I really miss the hardware keyboard on my MotoQ, I am now not only against all screen keyboards, but will never buy another phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard now.
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If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
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HA did you say YOUR choices are limited? I'm with Bell Mobility. MY CHOICES ARE MUCH MORE LIMITED
well i can say goodbye to winmo in a few days. i just got a great deal on 2 new blackberry curves from sprint for only $50, so i got one phone for free!
come on windows mobile is great. i only have to hard reset every week or so.
I've had my WinMo HTC Touch with Sprint for over two years and I had to hard reset all of like twice....and one of those times was just to install WinMo 6.1. So yeah, maybe you guys are just doing something wrong, lol.
As far as my next phone, I am getting that HTC Touch Pro 2!! It look so amazing and I am dying to get my hands on it. HOWEVER, I just might change my mind because these new 1GHz phones seem so freakin' beastly. I gotta see when they'll be out and if it'll be worth the wait. Also I gotta see if they have all the features I want.
The Verizon Eris or Droid doesnt look so bad......
Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
Just pre-ordered 2 Droids from Best Buy last night... all I can say is we are uber-excited about this device!!!
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It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right? How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right?
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I'm not sure...
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How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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$50.00 to pre-order/hold the Handset, $149.99 due at the time of pickup (price with new 2 year contract is $299, but Best Buy gives you the $100 rebate instantly unlike Verizon retail locations)
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
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Make sure you order before 11.15.09, because after that date Verizon is increasing their ETFs from $175.00 to $350.00... source: CNET
... and I can't believe your wife doesn't want a Droid.... my wife is STOKED to get her hands on it after having a Vogue-Droid for these past many months...
Bell getting Samsung Galaxy?
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
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I went into the local Bell retail store, looking at phones. Talked to the guy about the HTC Touch Diamond. He looks at me weird, asks "You like Windows Mobile??". I grin back, and say, "No, I like Android, but that's the closest I can get with you guys." I pull out my vogue and show him plemen's themed Donut build. At this point he tells me to hold on to my $200 upgrade credit a bit longer... as they will have the Samsung Galaxy within a month! Apparently the Samsung rep had been in the day before to talk 'em up about the Galaxy and Android, how awesome it's gonna be... yadda yadda. Needless to say, I'm holding onto that upgrade credit of mine for a *bit* longer
The galaxy is very un-exciting.
Better to get an unlocked Hero from Telus and put it on Bell.
hi,
i'm form the uk and seriously looking to get one of these phones or anything running android, in the last month i have used 2(3) devices i have had a blackberry 8900 (running beta os) and a htc touch hd (running both android and winmo) the android on my htc hd is very very very very buggy and fails to unlock nearly every time meaning it needs a full re boot but from what i've seen from it i loooooove android and have decided to go for android over an iphone my budget is pretty much any thing under £300 but i am willing to go over, i have looked at both the hero and the magic i am tempted by the magic just because it is cheaper but hero with multi touch is irresistible. but heres my question. i've seen the sprint hero which i believe is chinless and well i prefer the look of that does anyone know where i can get one of them in the uk, or does anyone have any other recommendations of phones i would like? also as you can probably guess i have the beta bug and love using cutstom roms and firmwares i have been using android 2.1 on my htc hd so is this available for this device?
sorry if this question has been asked 1000 times but i couldn't seen to find a search button
The GSM ones all have it.
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i've seen the sprint hero which i believe is chinless and well i prefer the look of that does anyone know where i can get one of them in the uk
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The Sprint Hero is a CDMA device as opposed to GSM - there are *no* CDMA networks in the UK full stop, so it would never work in the UK.
Note for the pedants - W-CDMA is part of the GSM standard, but W-CDMA <> CDMA, though the technologies are very similar! So, when I say no CDMA networks, I'm referring to networks like Sprint and Verizon in the US.
Regards,
Dave
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The Sprint Hero is a CDMA device as opposed to GSM - there are *no* CDMA networks in the UK full stop, so it would never work in the UK.
Note for the pedants - W-CDMA is part of the GSM standard, but W-CDMA <> CDMA, though the technologies are very similar! So, when I say no CDMA networks, I'm referring to networks like Sprint and Verizon in the US.
Regards,
Dave
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thanks for your help mate looks like ill just have to go with the chined hero which i don't like as much.
Hey Slaming,
You will grow to love the chin. It stops the screen from getting scratched when you lie it face down, it makes it more comfortable to hold when texting and makes it curve around your thigh when it's in your pocket.
Do yourself a favour and get the Hero asap!
Cheers,
BS...
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Hey Slaming,
You will grow to love the chin. It stops the screen from getting scratched when you lie it face down, it makes it more comfortable to hold when texting and makes it curve around your thigh when it's in your pocket.
Do yourself a favour and get the Hero asap!
Cheers,
BS...
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Ahmen to that, i had the same feelings when i first got the hero, for me it was a choice of Hero or HD2, but the HD2 had WinMo, and though i would like to have a play with WinMo7 when its out, Android secured the deal for the hero, but after a week or so, i changed my mind on the chin, its quite usefull, now the only reasons i hate it is because it dont fit in the accessories that well, but i can over look that, its not a big deal.
I actually prefer the chin. It makes the Back button a little easier to reach when you're holding the phone with one hand, and it's a button you'll use a lot. It also looks pretty cool and a couple of girls have asked me "hey what kinda phone is that" whereas the CDMA Hero just looks like any other phone.
yeah i'm definatly going with a hero now all i have to do is pay of my mum for my mac then save another £350 ish for a new hero which should all be good btw i am 15 so i'm not like 30 and have a loan of my mum lol
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wow nexus one only £10 extra i think i might be going nexus one but is there any diffrence between hero and nexus one bar multi touch because i know multi touch is meant to work now with the new update
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yeah i'm definatly going with a hero now all i have to do is pay of my mum for my mac then save another £350 ish for a new hero which should all be good btw i am 15 so i'm not like 30 and have a loan of my mum lol
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wow nexus one only £10 extra i think i might be going nexus one but is there any diffrence between hero and nexus one bar multi touch because i know multi touch is meant to work now with the new update
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As much as I love my Hero, i'd go with the nexus one for its faster processor, dual mics, and beautiful screen. Of course, there are cool new phones coming out all the time, so do yourself a favor and save up some money now so you're ready when the new htc stuff arrives.
chin makes hero stand out from the rest of the mobiles out there!
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do yourself a favor and save up some money now so you're ready when the new htc stuff arrives
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There's always new stuff coming out, if you wait for the next batch of phones, they'll have announced the next next batch, and you'll never end up buying anything. I think if there's something you like, just get it, and if you really really like something that comes out in the future, just buy that too or sell what you already have and buy the new one.
Hey everyone!
I've been following Anroid for a while and when Google announced the N1 for AT&T I almost bit but decided to hold off for the SuperSonic... Now I know I'm jumping ship!
My contract is up this summer and I'm going to get this phone. I don't care how much it is. I highly doubt that Apple has anything up their sleeve this good.
Anyway, I've been very into the jailbreaking community for the iPhones and have gathered that this is the place to be for information on Android phones, so I'm coming over and posting to say hi and join the rest of you waiting for this phone to hit pockets around the USA.
This is like when darth vader turns good.
Is he our father?
Trust your feelings (or something like that).
haha
RIP iphone (facebook fan page)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-iPhone/352438396150
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This is like when darth vader turns good.
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lol
like it
stilv said:
haha
RIP iphone (facebook fan page)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-iPhone/352438396150
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Nice I joined
I like to say goodbye to my iPhone too, but HTC won't bring a GSM version to Australia.
Yes, there has been tens of so called iPhone killers in the past, but I think this is the only one that I really take serious notice, and would not hesitate switching to. Just unfortunate that they don't have a world model.
Why would HTC not first concentrate on a GSM model as it usually does? After all, anyone travelling around would require it to be a GSM model rather than CDMA model, I would have thought. This phone is useless if you travel a lot.
wait for nexus one to be useable in your countries, it's been said it's comming for certain to most countires. It's going to be the "universal android phone" There may be some who have already figured out how to use it in some way/shape/form on the frequencies you use. A little research will provide the answer.
Waiting for a cdma, sprint exclusive phone to come to your country... yea... good luck with that. Nexus one will have almost everything this has minus the .5 inch difference in screen size, hdmi out, and kickstand. And some senceUI if that's your thing. I know this is for the EVO but this phone just ain't gonna happen in your country unless you're america.
Crying about why CDMA was chosen over GSM, do you realize the only android phones sprint has are still running 1.5, and have outdated processors in them? Yea **** those CDMA guys and their lousy network.... I'm on GSM and I need 5 superphones, you CDMA guys don't deserve anything. Go back to using push to talk dumbphones... you freaking douches :rollseyes:
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wait for nexus one to be useable in your countries, it's been said it's comming for certain to most countires. It's going to be the "universal android phone" There may be some who have already figured out how to use it in some way/shape/form on the frequencies you use. A little research will provide the answer.
Waiting for a cdma, sprint exclusive phone to come to your country... yea... good luck with that. Nexus one will have almost everything this has minus the .5 inch difference in screen size, hdmi out, and kickstand. And some senceUI if that's your thing. I know this is for the EVO but this phone just ain't gonna happen in your country unless you're america.
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I'm not interested in Nexus one, unfortunately. Does not have enough in it to attract me.
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I'm not interested in Nexus one, unfortunately. Does not have enough in it to attract me.
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the evo was designed by htc and sprint, hand in hand. the market for smartphones in the US is pretty big now. and with sprint being the first to launch 4g it was only right, in a business aspect for them both to do this. it has nothing to do with gsm vs cdma. although a lot of us here in the states can agree that cdma rules over gsm! ive had both tmo and att within this last year and by far i like sprint the most. coverage, cost and now the best phone on the planet to date!
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the evo was designed by htc and sprint, hand in hand.
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Is that so? Does it imply that HTC couldn't offer the same phone under other name to the other market then?
I had always thought that evo is just a variant of HTC Supersonic which was designed mainly by HTC, and that HTC would be free to repackage it anyway it sees fit for the other market.
I've not personally used a CDMA phone myself as it is rather uncommon in our part of the world, so we don't really have the option of using it even if it is really better than GSM.
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I had always thought that evo is just a variant of HTC Supersonic
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I'm guessing that the Supersonic was the code name for the Evo 4G. I like the HTC Bravo was the code name for the Desire. And the HTC Passion/Dragon was the code name for the Nexus One.
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot.com/2010/04/update-on-nexus-one-partnerships.html
Nexus One News and Updates
Monday, April 26, 2010
An update on Nexus One partnerships
When we launched Nexus One in January, we announced partnerships with Vodafone in Europe and Verizon Wireless in the US. We have news on both fronts.
Today, Vodafone begins accepting pre-orders for Nexus One from customers in the United Kingdom at www.vodafone.co.uk/nexusone, and on April 30th Vodafone will start selling Nexus One in their UK stores, online, and over the phone. Soon after, they will also begin selling Nexus One in France (SFR), Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Spain. Vodafone is our first European partner to distribute the Nexus One.
In the US, if you’ve been waiting for the Nexus One for Verizon Wireless’ network, head over to http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible to pre-order the Droid Incredible by HTC, a powerful new Android phone and a cousin of the Nexus One that is similarly feature-packed. It will be available in stores on April 29th.
We are very pleased with the amazing pace of innovation and strength of the Android ecosystem and to be working with partners around the world to bring the Android experience to more people.
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BOOM.
Verizon Nexus One goes POOF.
My guess? Verizon didn't want the phone due to the 3G issues. Not that it's definitely a hardware issue, but they probably didn't want to take the chance.
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BOOM.
Verizon Nexus One goes POOF.
My guess? Verizon didn't want the phone due to the 3G issues. Not that it's definitely a hardware issue, but they probably didn't want to take the chance.
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Why would the CMDA version have the same 3G issues? It would have used a completely different radio than the current N1. I highly doubt that was the reason. My guess it that they either believe the Incredible would take too many N1 sales to make it profitable, or Verizon wants more control of the device than Google is willing to give them.
Regardless, it's not completely dead yet and there's still a chance Sprint will get it. I still don't know how well an unlocked CDMA phone could work though.
Doubtful that the 3G issues had anything to do with it. They most likely didn't want 2 nearly identical models to deal with. It wouldn't make any sense to carry both the Nexus One and the Incredible. On top of that, the Nexus One wouldn't be filled with the Verizon bloatware that the Incredible most likely will be.
Verizon probably wouldn't budge on their programming prices for the phones is the most likely reason.
I'm sure it had everything to do with the fact that why would you buy a phone for 529 when you can get almost the same phone for 199. N1 would have super failed on Verizon worse than TMO and ATT versions
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Why would the CMDA version have the same 3G issues? It would have used a completely different radio than the current N1.
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I believe the issues are with the radio being at the bottom, so the signal dropping by hand covering the bottom would affect it the same way.
I highly doubt that was the reason. My guess it that they either believe the Incredible would take too many N1 sales to make it profitable, or Verizon wants more control of the device than Google is willing to give them.
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Well, the Incredible has no bloatware to be found (see the videos on YouTube, particularly the ones by "jon4lakers"). The device is completely untouched, especially in comparison to AT&T's Backflip.
Regardless, it's not completely dead yet and there's still a chance Sprint will get it. I still don't know how well an unlocked CDMA phone could work though.
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I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.
I don't think they had planned to sell the phone standalone. It would have been subsidized like the t-mobile plan.
It's not too complicated...
Neither verizon..nor HTC would like for N1 to directly compete with their new phone. Google also has mentioned many times that N1 is not a competition to other android phones. they don't want to upset their partners.
Verizon just launched incredible, which is almost the same as nexus one. Verizon can change the name of incredible to match their droid branding.. which is not possbile with nexus one
further, incredible is verizon phone and they get all the profit from it.. not google. when I was talking with t-mobile they told me that T-Mobile has no profit or financial agreement with google.. infact the subsidy on the phone is by google and not t-mobile.
Again.. i can't stress more..but all phones have problems when back is covered. All phones have specific intructions in user manual to avoid covering the back. N1 does not have 3G issues.. it's t-mobile
Paul22000 said:
I believe the issues are with the radio being at the bottom, so the signal dropping by hand covering the bottom would affect it the same way.
Well, the Incredible has no bloatware to be found (see the videos on YouTube, particularly the ones by "jon4lakers"). The device is completely untouched, especially in comparison to AT&T's Backflip.
I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.
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You are correct, CDMA phones cannot be transferred between Sprint and Verizon
arkavat said:
It's not too complicated...
Neither verizon..nor HTC would like for N1 to directly compete with their new phone. Google also has mentioned many times that N1 is not a competition to other android phones. they don't want to upset their partners.
Verizon just launched incredible, which is almost the same as nexus one. Verizon can change the name of incredible to match their droid branding.. which is not possbile with nexus one
further, incredible is verizon phone and they get all the profit from it.. not google. when I was talking with t-mobile they told me that T-Mobile has no profit or financial agreement with google.. infact the subsidy on the phone is by google and not t-mobile.
Again.. i can't stress more..but all phones have problems when back is covered. All phones have specific intructions in user manual to avoid covering the back. N1 does not have 3G issues.. it's t-mobile
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I disagree. I see 0 downsides from having both the N1 and the Incredible available.
- The phone market in both cases is HTC, so they don't care.
- The carrier will be Verizon in both cases, so they don't care.
The only difference is that someone who has a strong preference for the N1 (standard OS, the looks, or otherwise), can get it.
A Verizon N1 will only bring in MORE customers to Verizon and HTC; there's no way it could affect either of them negatively.
I don't get it.
Beyond not trying to screw their partnership with HTC by having both the Incredible and Nexus One on Verizon at the same time this doesn't make much sense. GSM is the way to go for an open platform anyway. It's a lot easier to just switch out the SIM. No need to contact Verizon or Sprint to let them know which phone you're running.
There is overhead such as the per device training on support, stocking, advertising, that come with any handset. On cdma you do not get the advantages of having a sim and on verizon you already have another phone that is very similar but superior in some respects. Most importantly to the average user who does not know about and will never do many of the things that we would call advantages with the nexus one the things like 8 megapixel camera loom larger. It would be my guess that verizon looked at the number of expected sales versus the cost of carrying the handset and decided it didnt pencil out, simple as that. One thing for certain, it always comes down to the money.
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There is overhead such as the per device training on support, stocking, advertising, that come with any handset. On cdma you do not get the advantages of having a sim and on verizon you already have another phone that is very similar but superior in some respects. Most importantly to the average user who does not know about and will never do many of the things that we would call advantages with the nexus one the things like 8 megapixel camera loom larger. It would be my guess that verizon looked at the number of expected sales versus the cost of carrying the handset and decided it didnt pencil out, simple as that. One thing for certain, it always comes down to the money.
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Very well said.
Paul,
Verizon and HTC are both together in incredible. Verizon has invested in that phone. They want it to sell more than Nexus One.
Google makes lot of money from N1... they released the revenue this quarter... and none of that went to T-Mobile.
arkavat said:
Google makes lot of money from N1... they released the revenue this quarter... and none of that went to T-Mobile.
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Can you provide a link for this?
I have never seen Google or T-Mobile say anything official about how the profits from the phone are distributed. (And I doubt they would do something like this, as companies usually do not.)
Actually, the article didn't say the Nexus One for Verizon was dead. It just suggested buying the Incredible, similar to how they pointed people to the Droid previously in the "can't wait" link. The AT&T N1 came from nowhere.
Paul, you may be right, but I'd wait for further clarification on this before I'd pronounce the VZ-N1 dead.
Paul22000 said:
I disagree. I see 0 downsides from having both the N1 and the Incredible available.
- The phone market in both cases is HTC, so they don't care.
- The carrier will be Verizon in both cases, so they don't care.
The only difference is that someone who has a strong preference for the N1 (standard OS, the looks, or otherwise), can get it.
A Verizon N1 will only bring in MORE customers to Verizon and HTC; there's no way it could affect either of them negatively.
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I agree with this. Further, I would think that having a DEV phone on Verizon would be hugely important to Google. Until the Incredible/Desires are rooted, there is no DEV equivalent to the N1.
Like AT&T, Verizon doesn't have to support it to allow it to connect.
If this development is true its things like this make me more and more mad at the so called "premium" companies like Verizon. Always putting restrictions on what their customers can do instead of giving them the options they want.
Isnt that what people hate Apple for too?
krabman is right. you have 2 similar products, verizon backs the incredible though. they must have sat down and crunched numbers out and figured making a cdma verizon n1 wont be worth it vs its projected sales.
Paul22000 said:
I think CDMA phones can not be transferred from Sprint to Verizon. Someone correct me if that's wrong, but I've never heard of that happening.
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It has been done before with older phones. However, I'm not to sure about the current smart phones.
Well ****. The Incredible's hardware is impressive, but it is looking to be one closed POS like every other recent HTC phone. It'll also probably have the ridiculous memory protection scheme of HTC that prevents writing to the system partition. Sounds like the deal between Google and Verizon fell through, because there's definitely code in AOSP for the CDMA mahimahi. The problem is that Verizon can decide whatever comes in or out of their network and they are likely none too pleased with Google's new business model.
No fastboot oem unlock = ABSOLUTELY the wrong direction for Android, do not like.
Maybe the outdated TouchPad 2000 that the N1 is using?
Good day! Just wanted to say that I'm so freaking out about this phone. I don't really do that much, but it is simply awesome and I really hope the carriers keep up with the updates this time (looking at you AT&T, last provider on earth to update the One X to JB, and haven't STILL). Sold my One X for this, and I really hope that HTC does well with this phone because I loved the One X as I'm sure I'll love this thing. Now, to a couple of questions that I'd like answers to:
Do you think we'll get screwed over by carriers like AT&T again with this phone (if you had a One X before)?
What feature are you most looking forward to in the One?
What would you buy one of these for off Craigslist (assume slightly used, no scratches or screen)?
What accessories are you going to be interested in (besides headphones)?
Jonathan_A said:
Do you think we'll get screwed over by carriers like AT&T again with this phone (if you had a One X before)?
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More than likely, it's what carriers do.
What would you buy one of these for off Craigslist (assume slightly used, no scratches or screen)?
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Sure, though I don't know why people would be selling them straight away, and you're still going to have carrier issues. Oh and you won't be able to get it subsidised of course.
M.
just going to get the unlocked version since its going to get software updates first, plus im fine with hspa+ on att. Lte is just a battery drainer. And i love the FM radio for the unlocked version lol
mattman83 said:
More than likely, it's what carriers do.
Sure, though I don't know why people would be selling them straight away, and you're still going to have carrier issues. Oh and you won't be able to get it subsidised of course.
M.
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Thanks, the 2nd question was WHAT would you buy one of these for though