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while most of you know that Xperia Z3 just announce I have already seen some of them want to dump their Xperia Z for Z3 well here is to tell you why not to do that just yet till a better phone is out, while most of you have hear the upcoming of Oppo and One Plus One which has some killer specs and it is selling as quite cheap I still have chose not to get it here is why Xperia Z is a wonderful device I got it 1 day before Z1 was due to be out yes sadly but Im happy not to get it not forgetting the bootloader unlock causing the camera not to work etc I'm not really a fan of Stock ROM cause I have been using cyanogenmod since Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes Exynos) even Sony Stock isnt that bad in terms of its wonderful Stamina Mode wish it got ported over to CyanogenMod/OmniROM (Android L has some new battery saver its okay) anyway I strongly believe our device wont be getting Android L due to the 18 Month crappy support never less I believe Open Source Community will find a way to bring the goodness to our phone *hint* Android L AOSP
If you feel you want to get a new cell/phone I suggest taking time to look around for something like 4GB RAM And Snapdragon 805 Above which I believe may be quite soon maybe around 6months - 1 year also keep a look out for Oppo/One Plus One as it is quite cheap and they team up with Cyanogen to pretty much bring some of the best flagship phone without burning to much $ from your pocket (if you feel you need to replace your phone at once)
I wish I did gotten a one plus one but hey my Xperia Z is Running OmniROM/CyanogenMod what more can I ask for
Anyone know how to enable "quick pulldown" from CyanogenMod to Z3?
I really like CyanogenMod but the Sony OS is also pretty cool. Stamina mode, camera and also the multitasking! Why isn't anyone talking about that?
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According to my experience, XZ is still the best Xperia after XZ2.. Z3 still isn't out yet, so i omitted it out.. And the fw's, we had a flawless 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 was decent and 4.4.4 is the best ROM XZ got from Sony.. They have given enough already and about Android L, i suggest keep the device and enjoy AOSP/CM12 or whatever they are gonna name it.. I am sure XDA devs are gonna give it to us.. I am on the process of learning development too, hope to give something to XZ before giving it away.. And i still don't find any reason to give up my XZ and upgrade to XZ2 or XZ3.. My needs are easily fulfilled..
I don't like CyanogenMod tbh and I only like Sony stock roms which is why I'm looking at the Z3 I have had the XZ since launch so you know time for a change
I suggest NOT to buy any of Sony phones because of very many dead displays, buggy firmwares (even 4.4.4 have problems with sound, stamina), high temperature of back panel and the worst service
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I would prefer sony for the beautiful stock Rom . I got xz as soon as it got released. Now it's only half the price. Next time, I would consider buying a cheaper phone. Xiaomi mi4/mi5
Looking at the past couple years I have found the phones released at the start of the year to be the better products from Sony and the ones released in September to be merely improvements and tweaks.
Also there is the future potential of the 64 bit processors like Snapdragon 810 which are expected to be used in flagship handsets next year as so far only Samsung has used the 805 chip in the Note 4.
Things like 4GB ram are useless in a phone except for professionals that have any use for that from a development standpoint. It is a phone afterall.
The Xperia Z is a great handset and meets all the needs for a smartphone. I am happy to wait longer for the next brilliant device to come along.
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I don't see Android L very nice...
KitKat and jelly bean looks better
TapaTalked from my Xperia™ Z (C660²) running Dirty Unicorns ROM!
The Z3 is looking to have over 9hours screen-on battery life..
9 hours!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...-record-battery-life-for-its-category_id60922
Android L has the possibility of increasing that number too.. Unless Sony fudges it up
Historicity they seem to give more care and attention to the first few updates.
Battery life is the only major issue I have with my XZ.. I may just pickup a Z2 when the Z3 pushes the prices down though.
Azurren said:
The Z3 is looking to have over 9hours screen-on battery life..
9 hours!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...-record-battery-life-for-its-category_id60922
Android L has the possibility of increasing that number too.. Unless Sony fudges it up
Historicity they seem to give more care and attention to the first few updates.
Battery life is the only major issue I have with my XZ.. I may just pickup a Z2 when the Z3 pushes the prices down though.
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Less Z3. More Z
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no idea why would someone dont like cyanogenmod/omnirom open source project are always better then close source projects
In my though, Z2 and Z3 are almost have the same specs..
Buy next xperia if it have Exposure and White Balance Lock like iphone and the video can focus manually.
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Hey!
Because the soon-coming Xperia Z5 doesn't have any subforum section - dedicated to the device, of course, so I thought we can use this thread to discuss this holy beast - that have been announced to come in totally THREE different "editions"!
More info on this Link and so can be found on Google.
What is your thoughts on this beast? Anything you are going to buy, or will you avoid this one and wait on the Z5+ / Z6 instead?
Regards,
Destroyedbeauty @ XDA-Developers
Zero interest in the Z5 Premium. 4K on a phone screen is moronic specs one-upsmanship unless you plan to use it near-exclusively with a magnifying glass. (Or with Google Cardboard, I guess.) And the Z2 is already the largest I would be willing to purchase, so the Z5 Premium is too big -- it has to be, to fit that screen.
The Z5 strikes me as interesting, though, depending on how good the fingerprint scanner is. That might well be my next upgrade, but not immediately for sure. Perhaps in a year or so...
Simply put-my next smartphone
Better wait for the real monster to arrive Q2 2016 : Z5+ /Z6 Premium with 5.7 inch 4K display and Snapdragon 820
Snapdragon 810, in previews there have been issues with overheating. If Sony won't fix it I will have to wait till they release their new models with SD 820.
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Snapdragon 810, in previews there have been issues with overheating. If Sony won't fix it I will have to wait till they release their new models with SD 820.
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
My next one, this Z5.
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
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Maybe some adjustment or SOC specific patches to the kernel (I think the Z5 will come with an 3.1X written Linux kernel - like the Z3+/Z4 was shipped with) or so, that reduces heating and thermal issues?
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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Can you link me to those reiews?
Is there any mod for our Z2's from Z5? Stock walpapers or others...:angel:
Z5 forum is now available :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5
When will be the day that SONY improves the software side rather than just upgrading the Hardware. Then i will buy that phone.
Going through different videos, i saw in some vids the background of the app drawer is present sony style & in some it is the Stock Google style !!!
What's up with that !!?
Edit: In some the app drawer is white while in some it is normal Sony style
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When will be the day that SONY improves the software side rather than just upgrading the Hardware. Then i will buy that phone.
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The software is the best. It's not like the other OEMs' ugly and heavy UI.
*cough*Samsung*cough*
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Going through different videos, i saw in some vids the background of the app drawer is present sony style & in some it is the Stock Google style !!!
What's up with that !!?
Edit: In some the app drawer is white while in some it is normal Sony style
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It's google style.
But Sony still misses some basic software features -
Vibrate on call connect.
Music auto off.
A File manager (with Wifi direct file share support)
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But Sony still misses some basic software features -
Vibrate on call connect.
Music auto off.
A File manager (with Wifi direct file share support)
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Music auto off is there in the music app its self
As for file manager i believe sony leaves that upto the users.
Z5 looks to me like a next gen xperia, until now every xperia had one or the other annoying flaw in it which we had to live with when we bought it. But z5 series phones looks real good and I hope to see it in the final product. People might argue 4k is useless, but I'm sure you would notice the technology once you actually use the phone and you will realize the difference between a 1080p display and 4k display.. Although I was a little disappointed to see z5c getting only 2gb of ram and not 3gb like the others in the series.. And about S810, I'm sure z5 wont heat any more than other oem flagships which use it. Plus the heating stuff that surrounds s810 has been overhyped in my opinion, I've used a z3+ for slightly more than an hour in a resell shop trying all the features and stuff once and it got hot as much as my z2, nothing more.. Don't judge about it just by reading reviews online or before you even experience it..
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to see z5c getting only 2gb of ram and not 3gb like the others in the series.. it..
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Ive found android only has issues when a device has 1.4GB of ram or less.
You can live on 1GB but multitasking isnt even 5/10
But i agree with the heat issues subject. S810 has some issues but can be solved as we've seen with some tablets
Snapdragon 810 is garbage. Easy.
Here is my dilemma, my contract is up and I can upgrade anytime. I really love the Z5 Premium, but now i am having second taught's upon reading this...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/sony-xperia-z6-news/
Yes i know this is just rumor and speculation... however Sony is really upping its game recently:good:. Big selling point is the 820 Snapdragon.
So what you guys think, wait for Z6 or get the Z5 prem?
Pro's and Con's welcome
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So what you guys think, wait for Z6 or get the Z5 prem?
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My opinion is to wait for Z6. I don't see any extra ordinary feature in Z5 except fingerprint. I think you should wait for Z6 and see if anything special is introduced.
Thank you, much appreciated.
Apart from the new new SOC what else do you think they might introduce?
Sure it'll be the same camera.
Do you think USB- C?
Wait!
With the new rumours doing the rounds, I think that it'd be better to wait for the Z6.
First and foremost, the new SoC itself should be enough not to consider Z5/Z5 Premium.
Also, there's talk about 5 different variants (based on screen size, and therefore budget - 4",4.6",5.2",5.7",6") to choose from, so I think that's another reason to wait. Although useless, but there could be Force Touch display and hoping for USB-C :fingers-crossed:
Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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The new Snapdragon will own hard time..if this is the only thing that will be different between the z5 i will sure wait for the 6 to come.I had the same dilema,but when i read the upgrade and the improvements of the 820.. hell yea it will be a beast in every aspect.Not to mention the camera quality boost which is important for me.On the other hand sony told that they will start working on the image sensor quality,software also so..yes .. changes will come in the near future.
@effective
You are so right , 820 overall is 40% better than stock 810. Now that's something :fingers-crossed:
Eagerly waiting for Z6.
1. SD820
2. 4GB ram
3. 32/64GB internal storage with expandable storage.(if they give 64gb option I am totally getting it)
4. 2K display 5.2-5.5"
5. At least 3000mAh battery
6. With new camera sensor with at least 240fps slo-mo video recording.(Everyone's going with 240fps and Sony is still on 120fps)
7. Improved finger print scanner
8. At least 8MP front facing camera(I think they should go with wide angle 8MP)
9. Wireless Charging
10. USB-C
11. Two tone flash Or use two LEDs (Xenon would be awesome)
And many more
What do you think about the release date, would it be early Q1? Given Sony's update cycle?
Wait for Xperia Nexus..
SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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The S7 will be released by the end of January 2016 and it will pack the 820 so yes,it will be with 820 for sure.The thing that i hate is the 6 month cycle..that OEMS release new phones..but anyway.I guess Z6 will see the world maybe on april/may.Till then all issues with the 820 will be fully resolved. ( :
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The S7 will be released by the end of January 2016 and it will pack the 820 so yes,it will be with 820 for sure.The thing that i hate is the 6 month cycle..that OEMS release new phones..but anyway.I guess Z6 will see the world maybe on april/may.Till then all issues with the 820 will be fully resolved. ( :
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Do you think Sammy will ditch its in house SOC Exynos 8890 for Snapdragon?
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Do you think Sammy will ditch its in house SOC Exynos 8890 for Snapdragon?
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No.They will bring two variants. with 820 and exynos.
Just switched to a moto pure edition/x style.
Havent even bothered rooting it just put adguard on it, this thing is fast as hell and trumps it in every category. Maybe the Z6 will be a beast though.
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Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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IMHO, 4k on mobile screens are not really that useful or even practical. I'd rather see 4k content on a 50XL (exaggerated) screen!
Yup, QC 3 would be nice :good:
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SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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With the reports of overheating on Z5C and Z5 still doing the rounds, I don't think (and hope) that Sony will use S810 for Z6. Besides, Z6 will most likely be out by mid-2016, so by then atleast 1 or 2 phones would be out with S820, so no reason why Sony can't get it too.
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What do you think about the release date, would it be early Q1? Given Sony's update cycle?
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I am assuming Q2 or Q3 2016, though I'd like it right now
I have been able to upgrade for a year, and I didn't even seriously thing about going anywhere near a s810 device due to overheating.
Two of my friends have Z5's and they overheat (when gaming IIRC) to the point that it burns their face should they answer a call shortly after, sorry qualcomm thanks, but no thanks. I advised all my friends who's contracts were up for renewal to wait until 2016, but they're impatient and jumped the gun.
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So far, there are big downsides to the ( Z5 ) SoC810 Snapdragon, 4K screen but not all the time .... heating a lot.
Was looking forward to the new device ( Z5 ) premium , but i think patience is my friend here.
One thing is for sure , my next phone will be a Sony.
Most indication around the net points to MWC release date of 22 Feb 2016.
The voting results speak for themselves , a lot of us would choose patience ( Z6 ) over impluse ( Z5 ) .
I switched from Z2 to Z5. It is noticeably faster and has better camera. Worth it. Although I miss old LED bar.
And I'll replace it with next Z that comes out next summer (Z7 or whatever).
Really ? The crappy LED bar on the Z2 which you won't see in most angles when your phone lies on the table, you miss that one?
Sony has made it formal that they plan to release the 7.0 update for Xperia Z3+ (or Z4).
Though, no release date, but I don't think it will happen this year. Q1 2017 looks likely.
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Yeah, I would expect them to update the Z3+ to Nougat...although I am not holding my breath for a quick update either.
Hopefully I'll be on a Nexus before it happens. This is the biggest mistake I've ever purchased. Camera is total crap. Always had been. Then I'll put a bullet thru this overpriced POS.
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Hopefully I'll be on a Nexus before it happens. This is the biggest mistake I've ever purchased. Camera is total crap. Always had been. Then I'll put a bullet thru this overpriced POS.
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Me too, looking for the smaller 2016 htc nexus. Have three 2015 flagships here to sell... hopefully it will nearly bring the price of a new one hehe. This is my first and last sony device.
will z3+ DUAL get it?
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will z3+ DUAL get it?
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yes all the dual sim versions will get nougat..
Official in xperia support
davisml said:
Hopefully I'll be on a Nexus before it happens. This is the biggest mistake I've ever purchased. Camera is total crap. Always had been. Then I'll put a bullet thru this overpriced POS.
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and the battery life is poo
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7.0 AOSP build instructions are up. @zacharias.maladroit could you go hand in hand with someone on this side to bring some rom builds across to us?
davisml said:
Hopefully I'll be on a Nexus before it happens. This is the biggest mistake I've ever purchased. Camera is total crap. Always had been. Then I'll put a bullet thru this overpriced POS.
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and the battery life is poo
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well, the Snapdragon 810 is a power-hungry, intermediate step to the Snapdragon 820, "Kryo architecture",
for Sony or Qualcomm it's one of the first ARM64 (64bit) processors,
also it seems that the mixed ARM64, ARM (32bit + 64bit) Android experience is far from optimized.
Hopefully this changes with e.g. Nougat
You get more power compared to e.g. ARM Cortex A15 (Snapdragon 800, 801),
however the efficiency is around 15-25% worse at least for Cortex A53 (little cores), under heavy load, the Cortex A57 cores should be more efficient,
to really get the most out of it (not only focusing on e-peen comparisons of e.g. Antutu Benchmarks) in terms of Battery runtime,
you could do some "weird" modifications, which I'm sure not everyone would be happy with:
e.g. overclocking the A53 cores way more (depending of cores if the SoC can take it), and limiting big cores (A57) to e.g. only 2 and slightly underclocking it (similar to Snapdragon 808),
then doing several modifications to the HMP scheduling algorithm to aggregate apps more aggressively on already running cores, etc. etc.
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7.0 AOSP build instructions are up. @zacharias.maladroit could you go hand in hand with someone on this side to bring some rom builds across to us?
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Remember, that the cam on the Z4/Z3+ still might suffer from the "fisheye" behavior and essentially making the pictures taken unusable,
don't know if it was fixed or improved with the new camera blobs (or if they are only available to the Z5 family)
@zacharias.maladroit, camera colors and video rec fixed. I just use selfcompiled cm13 for E6533.
Trying fix DS, no luck yet, but sim in slot1 works fine
Quarx said:
@zacharias.maladroit, camera colors and video rec fixed. I just use selfcompiled cm13 for E6533.
Trying fix DS, no luck yet, but sim in slot1 works fine
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@Quarx great to read/hear !
can you please share and/or upload the progress on e.g. github that you make regarding Dual SIM support ?
android_device_ivy changes ? android_devicy_kitakami changes ? kernel changes ? [obviously it needs to be compiled with the dual sim variant dts/dt* files]
would be nice if we perhaps could get on the right track for good and finally get it working :good:
Thanks
Good luck guys, tester here.
Leaks for all other phones are all over the place but nothing ever gets leaked for Sony phones (save for maybe 2 days before announcement). Any body remember if Sony made any comments about the future of compact line? I just put my pixel back in the drawer and started using my z3 compact (trying out lineage os 7.1.2). Such an awesome phone, perfect size and battery. Almost pulled the trigger on xc, but the thought of mid range specs (particularly no water proof) kept me from buying it. Wish they released a compact version of XZs, without any compromises, except for thickness which is understandable and acceptable. That would be perfect....
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Leaks for all other phones are all over the place but nothing ever gets leaked for Sony phones (save for maybe 2 days before announcement). Any body remember if Sony made any comments about the future of compact line? I just put my pixel back in the drawer and started using my z3 compact (trying out lineage os 7.1.2). Such an awesome phone, perfect size and battery. Almost pulled the trigger on xc, but the thought of mid range specs (particularly no water proof) kept me from buying it. Wish they released a compact version of XZs, without any compromises, except for thickness which is understandable and acceptable. That would be perfect....
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the x compact is still a very capable phone. i think sony didnt release a x compact successor, because it's without competition. if you want a small android phone, you're gonna get the x compact. and i haven't regretted it.
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the x compact is still a very capable phone. i think sony didnt release a x compact successor, because it's without competition. if you want a small android phone, you're gonna get the x compact. and i haven't regretted it.
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Right, exactly, it's like they know they don't have to push the limit and make the best, coz they don't have any competition. It's a niche market already with a smaller number of buyers to win over, so they are doing the minimum required. (I'm not counting the iPhone se, coz ios folks will buy iphone se and Android folks will buy Xperia compact). But where they excelled was making the very best phone possible, but in a compact smaller screen format. That seems to have changed starting x series (assuming compact line isn't dead altogether).
I remember reading some review that claimed Sony said their compact buyers don't care for performance, they care more for battery and camera in smaller form factor. If that is true, then compact line is dead for me. A mid range cpu like 650 may be capable, but it's not future proof and won't age very well. I wish another company would enter the compact market and infuse some competition.
I tend to agree: I'm afraid sony is going to "non hi-end" devices for their compacts, which I do not prefer.
Nevertheless the X compact is a very good device, and regarding water proof ...
The real downside I see is the lack of interest on latest sony devices, compared to the Z series era (I mean from developers, so less mods and customizations).
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Right, exactly, it's like they know they don't have to push the limit and make the best, coz they don't have any competition. It's a niche market already with a smaller number of buyers to win over, so they are doing the minimum required. (I'm not counting the iPhone se, coz ios folks will buy iphone se and Android folks will buy Xperia compact). But where they excelled was making the very best phone possible, but in a compact smaller screen format. That seems to have changed starting x series (assuming compact line isn't dead altogether).
I remember reading some review that claimed Sony said their compact buyers don't care for performance, they care more for battery and camera in smaller form factor. If that is true, then compact line is dead for me. A mid range cpu like 650 may be capable, but it's not future proof and won't age very well. I wish another company would enter the compact market and infuse some competition.
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I agree with you that the compact line went from high end back to medium specs. But the 650 processor runs well on this phone and the battery life is nice too. In some Youtube videos the X compact beat some flagship phones on side by side speed tests, I forgot which though. The screen resolution may be 720, but I don't see a difference to the last Quad HD display phone I owned (V10). In general the CPUs in phones have hit a peak, like laptop or computer CPUs. It's not like back in the days when you needed the fastest CPU to get the most out of your device. My laptop runs on a Core M, it's 3 years old, and still works great. I don't think our phones will need any higher processing power. The future will rely on software optimization, just look what Apple is doing with minimal specs and great software. And the future will be about picking which manufacturer releases the newest Android OS version the fastest. Besides the Pixel phones, Sony is doing a superb job recently. It's the first manufacturer to release Android 7.1.1, although it's limited on 2 phones at the moment. If you look at the X compact and which updates the phone has been receiving, you will see that Sony treats it as a flagship model, because the updates are very consistent and fast. I'm sure 7.1.1 for the X compact is just around the corner. I have spent much more money on real flagship phones from Samsung, LG and HTC, but they all fail to deliver updates on time.
I agree that sony should have used a more high end cpu on x compact but I must say the performance on this phone is like nothing I have seen before! so the only thing I dont like about it is being 28nm and not lower.
Also about waterproofing I can assure you that this phone is water proof:
-The phone size and weight is exactly the same as the waterproof model which is released in Japan only.
-There is a youtube video testing the phone with cocacola
-I accidentally dropped my phone into water and I wasnt able to take it out for about 15mins and the phone didnt take a bit of damage(But I turned it of after that and let is sleep in rice for a little time because it didnt have warranty anyway)
So I would recommend you to go for it and Im sure the first thing that catches your eye would be the screen quality
I hope in future sony releases another capable compact phone with less screen bezzels and borders...
Compact line is 100% fine, only released 1x per year in the fall.
Only the A4 broke this tradition ( which was a re-release of the Z3 compact in plastic vs glass )
http://www.sonymobile.co.jp/xperia/docomo/so-04g/
Next Xperia compact coming in September.
I have my xc for a month now. I'm surprised it's the most satisfying phone. I never thought a mid range phone was enough for me. It is. This phone flies, even compared fine to an iPhone 6s. You really don't need SD820, 821 unless you're a gamer which I'm not. Sony's thin Android skin means I'm not missing any native Android functions. I now only get compact phones, width less than 70mm. I'll definitely buy the next Sony compact phone.
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Personally I have no need to upgrade a phone every year, or 4-6 months like some other brands. This is getting ridonculous - what ever happened to making a device last more than 3 years (even by the community, if not by the manufacturer)? Look at the HTC HD2 as a good example of device obsolescence.
That's a phone that was released in November 2009, initially using Windows Phone. 7 years, still has XDA support to the day, very efficient use of developer resources.
Devices have been barely incremental upgrades over the past 3 years.
Gadget Stockholm syndrome should be a term added to the vernacular, it's really a sad state (non-removable batteries are not an excuse either).
The spirit of XDA is keeping a device ALIVE.
For those interested, X compact was first leaked around end of august (around 23-27 august). Compact series always released in 2nd half of the year with the exception of Z1 compact which is released feb 2014, but have the japanese version released earlier at the end of 2013
Compacts are released once per year every fall with the exception of the A4, which was basically a Z3 compact with a plastic back, which was released alongside the Z4 two years ago.
X compact is amazing, anything beyond this build would have been unnecessary Overkill, especially when you take into account the Japan Home Market and the intended consumer it's built for originally. Xperia phones are not built for worldwide consumers at all, they are very much crafted for the Japanese consumer and then just happen to be released in other parts of the world after the fact.
Here is the latest news:
http://www.gsmarena.com/specs_for_sony_xperia_xz1_xz1_compact_and_x1_leak-news-25138.php
BadBoy4490 said:
Here is the latest news:
http://www.gsmarena.com/specs_for_sony_xperia_xz1_xz1_compact_and_x1_leak-news-25138.php
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Moving on, the XZ1 Compact will also be powered by a Snapdragon 835 SoC, and will sport a 4.6-inch HD display. RAM will be 4GB, while a 2,800mAh battery will be tasked with keeping the lights on.
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Unless other phone models by Sony have done this, going to say this rumour is salty. Otherwise this doesn't make sense.
Mine even last for 5 days with lower brightness. No alarm clocks, No vibration, No sound, No Wifi, no bluetooth. No background apps running such as location services are off. 3G/4G data off. Pure call and text usage.
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Commenting on a comment from this article - but I never understood why people buy expensive flagship devices for features then feel the need to turn it all off, making it as useful as an old T9 phone (when it can be done for much less coin). It makes no sense.
volcolm said:
Unless other phone models by Sony have done this, going to say this rumour is salty. Otherwise this doesn't make sense.
Commenting on a comment from this article - but I never understood why people buy expensive flagship devices for features then feel the need to turn it all off, making it as useful as an old T9 phone (when it can be done for much less coin). It makes no sense.
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Z1 compact does have same SoC and RAM as Z1, so having XZ1c with same SoC and RAM as proper XZ1 is not out of the question. However sony just increased the ram from 2gb to 3gb from z5c to xc, while it stagnated between z1c to z5c. Will they increase it again so soon? Even the proper flagship stagnated the RAM (3GB) between Z2 to XZ
But yeah that one looks more of a hope. A hope of what would be a no compromise compact phone: return of highend end SoC, same RAM, maybe even throw the certified water proof back as well.
PS: tbf I usually turn my old phone into glorified media player with airplane mode, but only after i have newer phone. People need to realise that there is middle ground for battery vs feature. But People sometime just go extreme on saving battery.
i was hoping for next model with <=14nm cpu (660?), but im not so sure if there will be anything at all after reading this:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/05/2...expect-a-successor-to-xperia-x-and-x-compact/
650 is still capable processor and i might just purchase kugo if there is indeed none upcoming, but i hope to be proven wrong about that...