Here is my dilemma, my contract is up and I can upgrade anytime. I really love the Z5 Premium, but now i am having second taught's upon reading this...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/sony-xperia-z6-news/
Yes i know this is just rumor and speculation... however Sony is really upping its game recently:good:. Big selling point is the 820 Snapdragon.
So what you guys think, wait for Z6 or get the Z5 prem?
Pro's and Con's welcome
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So what you guys think, wait for Z6 or get the Z5 prem?
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My opinion is to wait for Z6. I don't see any extra ordinary feature in Z5 except fingerprint. I think you should wait for Z6 and see if anything special is introduced.
Thank you, much appreciated.
Apart from the new new SOC what else do you think they might introduce?
Sure it'll be the same camera.
Do you think USB- C?
Wait!
With the new rumours doing the rounds, I think that it'd be better to wait for the Z6.
First and foremost, the new SoC itself should be enough not to consider Z5/Z5 Premium.
Also, there's talk about 5 different variants (based on screen size, and therefore budget - 4",4.6",5.2",5.7",6") to choose from, so I think that's another reason to wait. Although useless, but there could be Force Touch display and hoping for USB-C :fingers-crossed:
Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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The new Snapdragon will own hard time..if this is the only thing that will be different between the z5 i will sure wait for the 6 to come.I had the same dilema,but when i read the upgrade and the improvements of the 820.. hell yea it will be a beast in every aspect.Not to mention the camera quality boost which is important for me.On the other hand sony told that they will start working on the image sensor quality,software also so..yes .. changes will come in the near future.
@effective
You are so right , 820 overall is 40% better than stock 810. Now that's something :fingers-crossed:
Eagerly waiting for Z6.
1. SD820
2. 4GB ram
3. 32/64GB internal storage with expandable storage.(if they give 64gb option I am totally getting it)
4. 2K display 5.2-5.5"
5. At least 3000mAh battery
6. With new camera sensor with at least 240fps slo-mo video recording.(Everyone's going with 240fps and Sony is still on 120fps)
7. Improved finger print scanner
8. At least 8MP front facing camera(I think they should go with wide angle 8MP)
9. Wireless Charging
10. USB-C
11. Two tone flash Or use two LEDs (Xenon would be awesome)
And many more
What do you think about the release date, would it be early Q1? Given Sony's update cycle?
Wait for Xperia Nexus..
SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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The S7 will be released by the end of January 2016 and it will pack the 820 so yes,it will be with 820 for sure.The thing that i hate is the 6 month cycle..that OEMS release new phones..but anyway.I guess Z6 will see the world maybe on april/may.Till then all issues with the 820 will be fully resolved. ( :
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The S7 will be released by the end of January 2016 and it will pack the 820 so yes,it will be with 820 for sure.The thing that i hate is the 6 month cycle..that OEMS release new phones..but anyway.I guess Z6 will see the world maybe on april/may.Till then all issues with the 820 will be fully resolved. ( :
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Do you think Sammy will ditch its in house SOC Exynos 8890 for Snapdragon?
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Do you think Sammy will ditch its in house SOC Exynos 8890 for Snapdragon?
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No.They will bring two variants. with 820 and exynos.
Just switched to a moto pure edition/x style.
Havent even bothered rooting it just put adguard on it, this thing is fast as hell and trumps it in every category. Maybe the Z6 will be a beast though.
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Yes the options for all the variations would be awesome. However,its sad if they will ditch the 4K display. Hope that wont happen.
Quick Charge 3.0 would be nice.
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IMHO, 4k on mobile screens are not really that useful or even practical. I'd rather see 4k content on a 50XL (exaggerated) screen!
Yup, QC 3 would be nice :good:
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SD 820 of course.
IIRC QuickCharge 3.0 is included in the 820.
The big question is. Will the Z6 feature the SD820 or still be an 810 device? Might very well be possible, sony always has been a little slow with new chipsets.
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With the reports of overheating on Z5C and Z5 still doing the rounds, I don't think (and hope) that Sony will use S810 for Z6. Besides, Z6 will most likely be out by mid-2016, so by then atleast 1 or 2 phones would be out with S820, so no reason why Sony can't get it too.
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I am assuming Q2 or Q3 2016, though I'd like it right now
I have been able to upgrade for a year, and I didn't even seriously thing about going anywhere near a s810 device due to overheating.
Two of my friends have Z5's and they overheat (when gaming IIRC) to the point that it burns their face should they answer a call shortly after, sorry qualcomm thanks, but no thanks. I advised all my friends who's contracts were up for renewal to wait until 2016, but they're impatient and jumped the gun.
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So far, there are big downsides to the ( Z5 ) SoC810 Snapdragon, 4K screen but not all the time .... heating a lot.
Was looking forward to the new device ( Z5 ) premium , but i think patience is my friend here.
One thing is for sure , my next phone will be a Sony.
Most indication around the net points to MWC release date of 22 Feb 2016.
The voting results speak for themselves , a lot of us would choose patience ( Z6 ) over impluse ( Z5 ) .
I switched from Z2 to Z5. It is noticeably faster and has better camera. Worth it. Although I miss old LED bar.
And I'll replace it with next Z that comes out next summer (Z7 or whatever).
Really ? The crappy LED bar on the Z2 which you won't see in most angles when your phone lies on the table, you miss that one?
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Hey dudes,
I had to post it! I saw the HTC One max and I don't know what to think. I am impressed.
First idea was to sell my Z1 and buy the One Max which have 3300mha battery, microSD slot and 32gb internal storage. 1.7ghz quadcore processor, which will drain less your battery, finger scanner and more..
Most important, huge developing section, this is very important.
The only one thing stop me to choice HTC One Max over Z1, 5.9 inch screen FullHD! For me is to big but the hardware is impressive.
HTC One Max do not have a fantastic camera but I think still make a good pictures anyway.
I think is a huge challenge between this two.
What is your opinion?
Yes hardware very impressive but for me it's REALLY TOO BIG.....very good phablet anyway
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Yes hardware very impressive but for me it's REALLY TOO BIG.....very good phablet anyway
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Yeah, kind of tablet, good description, probably it is.
i came from a HTC One, and i prefer the Z1, it is way smoother and i hate sense...
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First idea was to sell my Z1 and buy the One Max which have 3300mha battery, microSD slot and 32gb internal storage. 1.7ghz quadcore processor, which will drain less your battery, finger scanner and more..
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SD800 in Z1 is more power efficient than SD600 used in HTC ONE MAX when running the same speed. but at their current speed 1.7 sd600 vs 2.3 sd800 they use the same power according to Qualcomm. So if you really care about battery, you can under-clock your Z1 to 1.7 and it will be more power efficient than HTC chip running the same speed. Don't forget that if you switched you will downgrade the GPU as well (from adreno 330 to 320 which will have an effect on the performance and game experience)
Additionally, I think that extra 300mha can't compensate for the extra 1 inch in the screen size.
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regarding development, Z1 issue with unlocking the boatloader was just resolved by sony few weeks ago, its like the phone was released then because no-one was interested in developing or even flashing for the Z1. Therefore, the HTC ONE MAX had more time to develop for, which might change with time, though nothing is guaranteed.
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SD800 in Z1 is more power efficient than SD600 used in HTC ONE MAX when running the same speed. but at their current speed 1.7 sd600 vs 2.3 sd800 they use the same power according to Qualcomm. So if you really care about battery, you can under-clock your Z1 to 1.7 and it will be more power efficient than HTC chip running the same speed. Don't forget that if you switched you will downgrade the GPU as well (from adreno 330 to 320 which will have an effect on the performance and game experience)
Additionally, I think that extra 300mha can't compensate for the extra 1 inch in the screen size.
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I Agree on this one.
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regarding development, Z1 issue with unlocking the boatloader was just resolved by sony few weeks ago, its like the phone was released then because no-one was interested in developing or even flashing for the Z1. Therefore, the HTC ONE MAX had more time to develop for, which might change with time, though nothing is guaranteed.
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Camera was fixed with Update 4.3 but issues are not solved, we still missing features when unlocking bootloader.
How is the pricing factor for you because in some markets HTC has ridiculous pricing.
In my country its $100 more than note 3 (!)
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Will the same ROMS that work on the HTC one will also work on the max ?
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The only one thing stop me to choice HTC One Max over Z1, 5.9 inch screen FullHD! For me is to big but the hardware is impressive.
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if its too big then it does not matter what else it has.
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What is your opinion?
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Wait for follow up to htc one or any other in the 5-5.2 inch form factor.
IMO better wait for next flagships before jumping ship...
HTC one max is on early last years hardware architecture S600... it may not be that bad now, but 6 months down the road, you will feel quite left out...
3300 mah battery with 5.9 inch screen is not much different than 3000 mah with 5" screen, specially after the 4.3 update on Z1 which further increased our battery time 10-20%... doubt it will surpass battery life time of Z1
Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
end of the day, like I always say, it is your money, what ever makes you happy is what matters...
If you want to go htc and don't want a huge pocket-ripping device then wait for the successor of the Htc one
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How is the pricing factor for you because in some markets HTC has ridiculous pricing.
In my country its $100 more than note 3 (!)
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Actually I fuond the Max at the same price of Z1, that's why I am so interested.
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Will the same ROMS that work on the HTC one will also work on the max ?
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Even if not, HTC always had a huge developing section and will be the same with Max.
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if its too big then it does not matter what else it has.
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Probably, but the price of the Max is very attractive.
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IMO better wait for next flagships before jumping ship...
HTC one max is on early last years hardware architecture S600... it may not be that bad now, but 6 months down the road, you will feel quite left out...
3300 mah battery with 5.9 inch screen is not much different than 3000 mah with 5" screen, specially after the 4.3 update on Z1 which further increased our battery time 10-20%... doubt it will surpass battery life time of Z1
Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
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I will consider this too, no rush.
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Iend of the day, like I always say, it is your money, what ever makes you happy is what matters...
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I know it's my money but the price it's make my mind but probably I should wait to next step.
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If you want to go htc and don't want a huge pocket-ripping device then wait for the successor of the Htc one
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I love my Z1, at the moment is back to Sony for repair the issue with touch screen and if I get back a fully working Z1 I don't really care to jump to HTC but the Max has something interesting, maybe if they will do same features but with a 5 inch screen or less I will go for it.
Or depending where you're based tried to get the Z1S (that Tmobile have) which is 32Gb onboard plus the micro SD slot, jammy sods.
I have to manage onboard memory, as I bought several large title games when I had the One X, which I didn't finish
The Bards Tale, GTA VC and Horn to name a few. I don't want to install all of these on my Z1 (which isn't rooted) as I'd be on low memory fairly soon
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Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
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Biggest complaint i've heard wrt to the scanner is its located to close to the camera, its a great way to smudge the lens.
At least the apple has it on the front.
My opinion.. Max is not comparable with z1.. It shud be compared with z ultra..
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My opinion.. Max is not comparable with z1.. It shud be compared with z ultra..
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You right, I saw it and it was close to Z1 with the hardware but for the screen can't be comparable. It is comparable with ZU, Note 3 but with them will be the last I think. The screen make a huge role here.
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Even if not, HTC always had a huge developing section and will be the same with Max.
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I suspect not and no, do not assume the max will attract the same attention as the one. Wait for it to happen first.
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I love my Z1, at the moment is back to Sony for repair the issue with touch screen and if I get back a fully working Z1 I don't really care to jump to HTC but the Max has something interesting, maybe if they will do same features but with a 5 inch screen or less I will go for it.
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Exactly, the only reason you even considered switching is because you had a faulty Z1. Wait for the repair and then try for a month or so.
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Exactly, the only reason you even considered switching is because you had a faulty Z1. Wait for the repair and then try for a month or so.
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I don't have other choice. I will wait but my old HTC before he had problem with the touch screen it was 2 years old. I buy Sony after 2 month problem appear on the phone. HTC actually are a good phone but I hope Sony will repair mine.
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I don't have other choice. I will wait but my old HTC before he had problem with the touch screen it was 2 years old. I buy Sony after 2 month problem appear on the phone. HTC actually are a good phone but I hope Sony will repair mine.
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Of course Sony will repair or replace.
Why do you doubt this ?
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Why do you doubt this ?
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Because many users sent back the phone to Sony for the same problem and then they get the new device with the same problem again.
If the HTC ONE Max has the same processor as the HTC ONE, and i belive it has, i can only say, that it is NOT as quick as the Z1...
The feel you get from the Z1 is that it can do anything you can think of without any problem, the feel you get from the HTC ONE is that it is only just big enough to not bother you too mutch...
There are some nice things about the HTC ONE, my own is the Dual Sim version, and tha is really the only reason i bought it...
But to be hornest, the ONLY thing i think is better on the HTC ONE, is the two front speakers, and the Dual Sim...
All the other is Z1 leading by far...
Hey!
Because the soon-coming Xperia Z5 doesn't have any subforum section - dedicated to the device, of course, so I thought we can use this thread to discuss this holy beast - that have been announced to come in totally THREE different "editions"!
More info on this Link and so can be found on Google.
What is your thoughts on this beast? Anything you are going to buy, or will you avoid this one and wait on the Z5+ / Z6 instead?
Regards,
Destroyedbeauty @ XDA-Developers
Zero interest in the Z5 Premium. 4K on a phone screen is moronic specs one-upsmanship unless you plan to use it near-exclusively with a magnifying glass. (Or with Google Cardboard, I guess.) And the Z2 is already the largest I would be willing to purchase, so the Z5 Premium is too big -- it has to be, to fit that screen.
The Z5 strikes me as interesting, though, depending on how good the fingerprint scanner is. That might well be my next upgrade, but not immediately for sure. Perhaps in a year or so...
Simply put-my next smartphone
Better wait for the real monster to arrive Q2 2016 : Z5+ /Z6 Premium with 5.7 inch 4K display and Snapdragon 820
Snapdragon 810, in previews there have been issues with overheating. If Sony won't fix it I will have to wait till they release their new models with SD 820.
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Snapdragon 810, in previews there have been issues with overheating. If Sony won't fix it I will have to wait till they release their new models with SD 820.
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
My next one, this Z5.
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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It is not overheating. Btekt made a video where he did a 10 minute 4k recording without a problem and it wasn't hot. He could do more but he had a limited time with the device.
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Maybe some adjustment or SOC specific patches to the kernel (I think the Z5 will come with an 3.1X written Linux kernel - like the Z3+/Z4 was shipped with) or so, that reduces heating and thermal issues?
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That's some bull****. Especially since they had limited time with the device. I've seen two reviews which had no limited time with the devices reporting the same problem as on the z3+/z4 and all other devices running on the 810. How would Sony be able to fix this for the z5 if all other manufacterers are struggling with the same problem?
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Can you link me to those reiews?
Is there any mod for our Z2's from Z5? Stock walpapers or others...:angel:
Z5 forum is now available :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5
When will be the day that SONY improves the software side rather than just upgrading the Hardware. Then i will buy that phone.
Going through different videos, i saw in some vids the background of the app drawer is present sony style & in some it is the Stock Google style !!!
What's up with that !!?
Edit: In some the app drawer is white while in some it is normal Sony style
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When will be the day that SONY improves the software side rather than just upgrading the Hardware. Then i will buy that phone.
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The software is the best. It's not like the other OEMs' ugly and heavy UI.
*cough*Samsung*cough*
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Going through different videos, i saw in some vids the background of the app drawer is present sony style & in some it is the Stock Google style !!!
What's up with that !!?
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It's google style.
But Sony still misses some basic software features -
Vibrate on call connect.
Music auto off.
A File manager (with Wifi direct file share support)
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But Sony still misses some basic software features -
Vibrate on call connect.
Music auto off.
A File manager (with Wifi direct file share support)
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Music auto off is there in the music app its self
As for file manager i believe sony leaves that upto the users.
Z5 looks to me like a next gen xperia, until now every xperia had one or the other annoying flaw in it which we had to live with when we bought it. But z5 series phones looks real good and I hope to see it in the final product. People might argue 4k is useless, but I'm sure you would notice the technology once you actually use the phone and you will realize the difference between a 1080p display and 4k display.. Although I was a little disappointed to see z5c getting only 2gb of ram and not 3gb like the others in the series.. And about S810, I'm sure z5 wont heat any more than other oem flagships which use it. Plus the heating stuff that surrounds s810 has been overhyped in my opinion, I've used a z3+ for slightly more than an hour in a resell shop trying all the features and stuff once and it got hot as much as my z2, nothing more.. Don't judge about it just by reading reviews online or before you even experience it..
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to see z5c getting only 2gb of ram and not 3gb like the others in the series.. it..
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Ive found android only has issues when a device has 1.4GB of ram or less.
You can live on 1GB but multitasking isnt even 5/10
But i agree with the heat issues subject. S810 has some issues but can be solved as we've seen with some tablets
Snapdragon 810 is garbage. Easy.
Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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You might as well wait for the next one after 820 then.
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And by then might as well wait for SD 830.
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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You should buy one right now because if you wait 3-6 months it will be worth it to wait until the Nexus 7P is out.
I had the Nexus 6... Just sold.. The 6P is very much a better phone all around.
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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Wait for the sd830. Will be better.
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I think OP is just looking for a worthy jump in processing power. Anandtech recently did a review of the Nexus 5X, the thermal issues that plague the latest generation snapdragons is pitiful. Qualcomm seems to have screwed up. The generation jump from the S4 Kraits to the SD 800 and then the SD 805 was a lot more worth upgrading for.
From the review:
"The Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 keeps all four cores at their max frequency for about twelve minutes before they all throttle down to 2GHz and remain there for nearly two hours. Meanwhile, Snapdragon 808 can only keep its two A57 cores at their peak frequency for two minutes before throttling both down to 633MHz and putting the A53s up to their peak 1.44GHz. After twelve minutes the A57s are just shut off entirely, and you're left with a cluster of 4 A53 cores at 1.44GHz."
"It's disappointing that this year's Qualcomm silicon means that the performance improvement over a two year old Nexus 5 is not very large. Our past published data shows that the behavior of the Snapdragon 810 SoC in the Nexus 6P will almost certainly behave in the same manner, and in that case you'll actually be looking at an overall regression compared to the Nexus 6 when your workload spans any longer than a minute or two.
On the one hand, I think it would have been better for Google to wait until Snapdragon 820 launched so it could be utilized...
I can certainly forgive the issue when the device costs $379, but I don't think it would be as easy to pass if it's also true of the 6P, and overall I'm most disappointed about the relative lack of improvement over the original Nexus 5 despite the two year gap between the two."
Honestly, I have seen some early benchmarks of the snapdragon 820, Qualcomm has ditched the Big.Little architecture and gone back to a balanced quad core design with its kyro cores. While the results are significantly better than the SD 810, IMO it is still going to be the generation which will be playing catch-up to the Samsung Exynos.. compared to the Exynos 7420 in the current galaxy devices, the SD 820 is better in single core performance but still lags behind in multi-core because of the shift in architecture..Also the gains in power consumption and efficiency are largely because of the lesser cores. The next gen Exynos 8890 should again be able to outperform the SD 820, but I guess Qualcomm is going to readjust itself on the right path with the SD 820. So maybe the jump after the SD 820 will be even more favorable, only time will tell. For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
HWell the question was because the sd820 will be used in 2 months from now and the sd830 (if thats the model by then) itll be used in 1 year and 2 months, but i quest the only people that answered my question are 12 year old kids being sarcastic. I would be happy if someone with knowledge could answer my question instead of funny people
P.S. Thank you very much guru_urug
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Its probably not the right place to ask but since i wanna buy the n6p i will ask you guys for your opinion. Is it worth to buy the n6p or wait for a sd820 phone?
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
LTU seems to have a future in improving availability of data/voice connection. I think 3x3 carrier aggregation is not in service on any of the cellular service providers, and I haven't read a thing about when it will be implemented. I think the 6p has mimo 2x2 WiFi and 2x2 carrier aggregation. I've been using a 6p for about 2 weeks now, and it seems like the radios and microphones work better than my previous phone (Nexus 6).
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i have the 6p almost 2 weeks now,was concerned about 810 processor but believe me this is the smoothest, most consistent running device i have ever owned, google is smart to release phones after summer,we dont start out with overheatingl,,lol im curious when the hot weather comes back how theses phuckers will handle the heat,,buy the phone and have a blast..steve
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well, by then the 840 should be just around the corner
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Woah woah woah! I thought they were scrapping the 840 to rush the 900a series into production. Wtf. Why am I the last to know these things!!!!!?
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In all seriousness though... Look at the performance differences between 800, 805, etc... If approx 20% performance increases (on paper) are that critical to you, then wait.
If you want the smoothest android experience on the planet, get the 6P.
Simple enough.
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If you are looking for a Nexus device, buy now. If you are looking for the latest processor in a giving time frame you will need to wait. You will need to ask yourself what you are looking for in a phone.
The 810 is not nearly as bad as the media is saying. Early phones had some learn curves but that been taken care of. And of course the 820 will be better, that's the name of the game.
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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For the current generation of games and apps, even a SD 800 is good enough in majority of cases and the SD 810 will last you a long time..longer than most people keep their phones, but if you are going solely on value to performance upgrade, I agree that this generation of Qualcomm silicon has not given a worthy improvement.
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That's exactly it. People are convinced that they need bigger (well, smaller!) and better chipsets, but my Snapdragon 800 Nexus 5 still performs brilliantly. The performance on games is just fine, and there's no lagging. I do think a big problem is a consumer sees something stuttering and puts it down to the CPU. Crikey, my Galaxy Tab S stutters (thanks TouchWiz) but it's an octo-core tablet. It's NOT too slow because of some UI glitches!
It's also why you can pick up a Snapdragon 400 or 410 device, or even Snapdragon 200, and get a perfectly good user experience - let down only when you go for the most graphic intensive games, which I suspect most people aren't even doing. Even I now play relatively few games, and many are far more of the casual gamer type ones anyway.
My concern with my 6P is battery life, more so than the throttling issues, so that's what I'm hoping is improved on SD820 over and above everything else. (I should add that I've purchased a 6P already)
Agreed. Did the OP say what he's currently using? That would be a big factor.
If you're looking for a Nexus, it's going to be a year before you see another one. Do you want to keep what you have for another year ?
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Good point, the OP didn't say what they were using. That may help answering the question.
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I own a nexus 6 at the moment, i love nexus devices, i had a nexus 5 before the 6 and a 4 before that. My concern is about some problems i saw on other devices like htc and lg (flex 2). I know ofc that they say sd810 on oneplus and n6p is an other version (which i believe is just for the media) and ofc i know that nexus devices are much faster than other phones with same specs, but those problems with overheating etc are bugging me, thats the reasson i ask.
Given the issues a lot of us have had with the z5c, this could be a real alternative if the rumour is true
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_wil...with_the_iphone_se_rumor_says_-news-17225.php
Don't care... Not swinging at Sumsung's...
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Given the issues a lot of us have had with the z5c, this could be a real alternative if the rumour is true
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_wil...with_the_iphone_se_rumor_says_-news-17225.php
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LOL just look at the past bro and i can tell you can if samsung releases a mini then it will have midrage specs at best so it doesn;t come close to Z5c.
The article is total wrong.....
Samsung will introduce this smartphone as a response to Apple's upcoming 4-inch iPhone SE, which will be unveiled on March 21. <-- 4.6" isn't response to SE but the 4.7" IP6s.
And it will allegedly be the first Samsung Mini to come with high-end specs. <-- This isn't the first but second. Galaxy Alpha is the first mini flagship.
Personally, I real dislike the color reproduction of Samsung so probably will wait next Sony Compact even the S7 mini is a true story.
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RiTCHiE007 said:
LOL just look at the past bro and i can tell you can if samsung releases a mini then it will have midrage specs at best so it doesn;t come close to Z5c.
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It isn't entirely impossible however. Galaxy Alpha was released in the same time frame with Z3c. Alpha got 4.7" 720P, Note4 CPU, 2GB ram, S5 Camera, metal bumper design and switchable battery.
TheEndHK said:
The article is total wrong.....
Samsung will introduce this smartphone as a response to Apple's upcoming 4-inch iPhone SE, which will be unveiled on March 21. <-- 4.6" isn't response to SE but the 4.7" IP6s.
And it will allegedly be the first Samsung Mini to come with high-end specs. <-- This isn't the first but second. Galaxy Alpha is the first mini flagship.
Personally, I real dislike the color reproduction of Samsung so probably will wait next Sony Compact even the S7 mini is a true story.
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It isn't entirely impossible however. Galaxy Alpha was released in the same time frame with Z3c. Alpha got 4.7" 720P, Note4 CPU, 2GB ram, S5 Camera, metal bumper design and switchable battery.
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Well considering the z compact series is much smaller than the 4.7 iPhone, it very well could be a direct competition to the SE if it's around the same size. The point is the overall form factor and has nothing to do with actual screen size. iPhones bezels are obnoxious so the 4.7 is actually regular s7 league .
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I'd be all for it if it wasn't fake! Samsung keeping flagship specs in a compact chassis is as likely as Trump becoming president.
Samsungs designs are easier to hold in hand and is about half the weight and always have great dev support to have aosp. A win in every regard! Hopefully they knock down bezel size. The alpha was too large of a phone to really be a compact. I've been on the lookout for a s5 mini g800m for a while, I would grab one of these in a heartbeat as long as they keep size down, I hate my z5c.
I think it will definitely happen. Samsung has to compete with the SE.
Btw Trump will be president.
I don't know if there's any OEMs that can provide an Android compact flagship the same good as Sony can do .Just take a look at HTC one mini 1st and 2nd generation(some may even never heard about them), they cannot even be able to afford the flagship position.
And Samsung? I am looking forward to any S minis.It's always good to have an alternative option anyway..
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I don't know if there's any OEMs that can provide an Android compact flagship the same good as Sony can do .Just take a look at HTC one mini 1st and 2nd generation(some may even never heard about them), they cannot even be able to afford the flagship position.
And Samsung? I am looking forward to any S minis.It's always good to have an alternative option anyway..
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The mini 2 was almost the perfect phone if not for expandable memory.
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I agree bro. Also I don't get all the fuzz about s7... I went into a store to see it live. I believe Xperia X performance looks way better even though I didn't had the chance to see the X live. I think it's all about marketing and Sony has so much to catch up.
I'd be willing to jump ship to an S7 mini. After using my z3c for so long, I always end up going back to it no matter what phone I buy
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S7 is a sexy beast (in black) I had both S7 and my black XP (prototype) in the hand. S7 is much more refined than XP, hence they've been working on that design for two generations now, so it has improved to perfection in my personal opinion. Sony is now trying the "slight" curve-design for the first generation, and there is place for refinement, that's true! But look how fast devs supports S7 and S7E. S7E already have a custom Rom, kernel and Twrp3.0.0.0. That's fast!! Sony, we wait almost 3-6 months, much because of the drm bull**** which frighten us and devs for loosing camera quality(mainly) Even though camera isn't all that dashing, quite frankly. If I had a sd820 running S7(nice footprint) with custom Rom (CM13 or RR) I wouldn't blink twice before (h)jumping on it but respect to Sony anyway for trying to keep up with the big boys, and XP is a nice device, no doubt!
Hardware and camera wise I prefer Samsung. They use Gorilla glass 4 (saw durability test vs iphone 6, it holds very well vs the metal back). I 'm not a cam happy guy, so a noob friendly camera will suit me better. I don't game on the phone so performance doesn't matter much. What matters for me is the sound quality. S7 has louder output on the headphone and speaker than Z5 according to hifi org.
But I want a stereo speaker for my morning bathroom:laugh: . It is out of question that S7 mini will have stereo speakers.
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Given the issues a lot of us have had with the z5c, this could be a real alternative if the rumour is true
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_wil...with_the_iphone_se_rumor_says_-news-17225.php
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Yeah, but those issues are fixed with the MM update. It would have to be a quantum leap forward before I would dirty myself by using TouchWiz.
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Yeah, but those issues are fixed with the MM update. It would have to be a quantum leap forward before I would dirty myself by using TouchWiz.
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If only EE UK would release the update!
Coming from an S5 mini, I guarantee you there that you will get MAX if you're lucky enough one android update (version update)
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Coming from an S5 mini, I guarantee you there that you will get MAX if you're lucky enough one android update (version update)
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I'm about to switch over to the s5 mini, how well did it hold in the hand compared to the z5c?
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Yeah, but those issues are fixed with the MM update. It would have to be a quantum leap forward before I would dirty myself by using TouchWiz.
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Samsung phones get swarms of devs, meaning aosp goodness. I never keep touchwiz for more than a few hours when I get a Samsung lol if we could get some aosp love on the z5c ID be happy, Sony's ui isn't much nicer than touchwiz
Sony's UI? Once you've switched to another launcher there isnt really anthing but stock android left.
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Sony's UI? Once you've switched to another launcher there isnt really anthing but stock android left.
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You're right. It's lollipop I actually hate. I have really been spoiled with KitKat the last few years I forget lol
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I'm about to switch over to the s5 mini, how well did it hold in the hand compared to the z5c?
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Biggest downgrade ever?
Think of change my daily driver, now using note 3 N9005. Should I get oneplus 5 or wait for SD 845/ Oneplus 6 . ps:I can wait :cyclops:
Wait for LG v30..
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Think of change my daily driver, now using note 3 N9005. Should I get oneplus 5 or wait for SD 845/ Oneplus 6 . ps:I can wait :cyclops:
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i suggest you to wait
reason:
- camera mode blur sometimes (need to focus manualy 87℅) is good but not awesome
- video cam on 4k doest have stabilizer shake like earthquake and on 1080 some blur shadow effect (like when ur dezzy or drunk hehe) when moving on dark or moving to quickly
- the display doesn't refresh well (doesn't keep 60hz frame rate 100℅)( could be an cross oneplus device disease poor old quality amoled panel meaning hardware related) in fact they use the panel of oneplus 3/3t on 5 and if this is correct (ot may sound crazy )but this super amoled panels are from note 2
- no ip rated (in my opinion its an must have to protect your investment)
- 2k if u care of vr and movies
- sdcard slot (it cost around $1,50 to the add module not sure why they didn't add it...it would be awesome to have 128gb internal+ 256gb sd card ) in fact asus latest flagship has 256gb internal and sdcard support
- design from all desing prototypes they use the iphone one (i see the one that look like an huawei p9 omg i through i see heaven ehn i saw it hehe)
- 5 hours of screen on time
- lte connection issues
- overprice
i cancel two orders for an friend of mine i ask suggestion here and redit telling me that this issue are common on oneplus ....i cannot guarantee that can be fixed whit upcoming updates but like i say this is old news cross oneplus devices
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not sure where one plus is heading they have release 3 flagship whiting 1 year and whiting it they drop supports(discontinued)
they are cheating on benchmark
they are false advertising parnership whit DxOMark
they are false advertising on warranty ("we may replace the defective product entirely with a rebuilt, reconditioned or new OnePlus product") how if the product is discontinued
they giving a nice discount on reviwers for marketing
and sadly beating the hand whos giving them to eat Samsung... who supply them whit (ram,display,internal storage) lol this should be called sam+
on topic i suggest you to wait for 5t before Christmas nov or sep ...who knows next month ...
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Think of change my daily driver, now using note 3 N9005. Should I get oneplus 5 or wait for SD 845/ Oneplus 6 . ps:I can wait :cyclops:
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cultofluna said:
Wait for LG v30..
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if u into camera wait for Huawei mate 10 will have new kirin soc and g71 mali gpu also 4 cameras and wide 4k
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i suggest you to wait
reason:
- camera mode blur sometimes (need to focus manualy 87℅) is good but not awesome
- video cam on 4k doest have stabilizer shake like earthquake and on 1080 some blur shadow effect (like when ur dezzy or drunk hehe) when moving on dark or moving to quickly
- the display doesn't refresh well (doesn't keep 60hz frame rate 100℅)( could be an cross oneplus device disease poor old quality amoled panel meaning hardware related) in fact they use the panel of oneplus 3/3t on 5 and if this is correct (ot may sound crazy )but this super amoled panels are from note 2
- no ip rated (in my opinion its an must have to protect your investment)
- 2k if u care of vr and movies
- sdcard slot (it cost around $1,50 to the add module not sure why they didn't add it...it would be awesome to have 128gb internal+ 256gb sd card ) in fact asus latest flagship has 256gb internal and sdcard support
- design from all desing prototypes they use the iphone one (i see the one that look like an huawei p9 omg i through i see heaven ehn i saw it hehe)
- 5 hours of screen on time
- lte connection issues
- overprice
i cancel two orders for an friend of mine i ask suggestion here and redit telling me that this issue are common on oneplus ....i cannot guarantee that can be fixed whit upcoming updates but like i say this is old news cross oneplus devices
offtopic:
not sure where one plus is heading they have release 3 flagship whiting 1 year and whiting it they drop supports(discontinued)
they are cheating on benchmark
they are false advertising parnership whit DxOMark
they are false advertising on warranty ("we may replace the defective product entirely with a rebuilt, reconditioned or new OnePlus product") how if the product is discontinued
they giving a nice discount on reviwers for marketing
and sadly beating the hand whos giving them to eat Samsung... who supply them whit (ram,display,internal storage) lol this should be called sam+
on topic i suggest you to wait for 5t before Christmas nov or sep ...who knows next month ...
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if u into camera wait for Huawei mate 10 will have new kirin soc and g71 mali gpu also 4 cameras and wide 4k
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Don't forget Huawei/Kirin SoC very little Custom ROMs and modding.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Don't forget Huawei/Kirin SoC very little Custom ROMs and modding.
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i was an flashholic once (lg optimus hd nexus 4/5 lg g3 g4 xperia z3+ z5 honor 8 ) even develop and contribite to merge source and learn 3 things....
- flashing degrade the live of ur phone
- the best aosp source allways comes from linage os (cm7) ( formerly linage os so one cutom rom is enoght... as soon u marge it whit other sources u will likely have battery drain and will take age to find out whos fault is) .....is an cycle of never end flashing random rom again and again
- is better just to mod and tweak stock rom and flash an custom kernel
after few month of linage on honor 8 and see how powerful is Kirin i give it another try but this time i dindt wanted to go budget i wanted to go ameture
for $630 free shipping
i got
huawei p10 plus this phones is an piece of art and a true flagship .....2k resolition, ip63 rated, internal ufs 2.1 128gb (internal)+128gb sam pro plus (sdcard), 6gb ram, stereos speakers - 24-bit/192kHz audio output (headphone jack) ,perfect camera and video camera both modes support pro mode and a battery of 3750mah!! whit fast charge at least on me 3 hours on airplane mode to charge fully and 9-13 hours screen on time aswell kirin 960 soc (already out dated 1 year 2 month) and outperform snapdragon 835 and apples a10 on single and multicore benchmark meaning this phone is smooth i mean smooth like nutella ..... i wanted the p10 plus (al00) that one has 256gb internal was of stock by that time and then yeah 128+128sd is enough
also huawei is open source so isn't that hard to merge
we dont need multiplies custom rom we need stock is the best and yes sadly seem like xpoze
development has stop ( im pretty sure google is involved on stop developing xpoze) since is an blade of doble shape....