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Got my Hands on HTC One

so i got my hands on an HTC ONE and im very impressed.
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
camera was great, and picture and video quality was awesome.
one thing that really took me by surprise was the speakers.
sound quality was awesome and i could hear some bass in phone speakers.
i would love to have this phone out, but i wont buy it because no removeable battery & no expandable memory.

Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.

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Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.
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sorry i had to give it up to somenoe else for now
but once i get it back i will

nas02302 said:
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.

I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.

JesseMT4G said:
I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.
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i had the evo lte for a bit and i absolutely hated that fact that i could not remove my battery, and thats one of the reasons i dont have a galaxy nexus on my line, i need all of my 64gb of storage, i have about 30 gb of movies and 20 gb of music. im not giving up my note 2 right now for anything.

NewBelgium said:
Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.
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True lol! MacBook pro feel sound great. So happy that the speakers sound great too!
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
As for storage, 64GB would be fine, but you can't get the 64GB version in the UK. I regularly fill up my 32GB memory card with downloaded video, and that's standard-definition stuff; on the the One it'll be HD.
I've ordered a One anyway. I'm an addict.

You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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I have no problem not having a piece of crappy plastic on the back of the phone. This is the direction htc is going in.
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Shasarak said:
With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
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I have a Desire Z, which came out, I believe, November 2010. I got a larger Mugen battery for it as soon as it was released, maybe two or three months afterwards. I've been using that battery ever since. So that's over two years. It still holds its charge really well, I don't have any complaints.
I hear what you're saying though, it is a concern. The question is, how easy would it be to open up the One and replace the battery? Probably really difficult, which means that, effectively, these devices have a short lifespan.
It is a shame, really.
I don't think it's always either/or when it comes to unibody designs and an easily servicable battery - imagine if you could slide out a "cartridge" from the bottom of the phone, which would contain the battery, SIM card, SD card. The best of all worlds. The only compromise would be the latch to keep it locked.

I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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nas02302 said:
One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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Do you have the phone? Could you give us the list of countries the channel guide of the SenseTV supports?

this is a good phone !
this phone is truly awsome !
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truly this phone met up to expectation
camera build very good as well !:good:

nas02302 said:
I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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It'll come apart. The HOX had no obvious openings either but you just need to pry the screen out and you've got access to everything. Being an aluminium body rather than polycarbonate (which could flex to allow you to get the screen out) there will have to be a proper way to pull it apart.
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I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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coupetastic-droid said:
You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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This. I'm getting real tired of the argument about not enough storage. I feel at this point with a 64gb internal storage the point is invalid. Why would anyone have that many movies on a phone. Or music? I enjoy watching clips but a whole 2 hour video on my phone? No thanks. I loaded up all my music onto Google music a long time ago and have never has problems since trying to listen to it. Idk, I have never really had a problem with storage and I use my phones a lot!
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nas02302 said:
I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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Well of course they aren't going to be obvious
http://www.droidsage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HTC-One-Unibody-Design.jpg
Look at the inside of the body along the side - a whole bunch of tiny tabs. My guess is these hold the screen in, pry the plastic side of the phone away from the screen (may need special tool) and the tabs will release the screen. Once screen is out you have access to everything.
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All this form over function people makes me sick.

We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.

I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.

Join the HTC boat
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das boot said:
I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.
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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.

Simple really..the S6 has a better:
Design
Camera
Screen
**and that's just for starters

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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.
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You are right. The S6 is practically an iPhone. Its a shame. But I am sure you know that Samsung had a terrible year last year while Apple had one of the best quarters they ever had. Samsung had to change something, and I guess that change was copying the iPhone again. I guess they're hoping to draw back a lot of iPhone users now that their design can compete. But that's about it. I do not understand why HTC can manage to fit a micro sd slot in their phone. Why couldn't Samsung?

So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?

kuromusha38 said:
We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.
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We live in a world where people use pictures of women getting f***ed as their member logo. Yet you talk about how others. You can get a good looking women who is intelligent too fyi
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.

derWolf_ said:
@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.

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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
derWolf_ said:
@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.

I can live without hw buttons and oled screen doesn't bother me either. there's nothing wrong with either imo they are both good screens oled, and slcd.
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If you want more function.. Carry a f…g computer with you, it can do a lot more than a phone

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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.
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The fact that most carriers (not only US ones) are not offering the 128GB model, or even the 64GB is true, and it sucks. I, too am very sad about removing the SD card slot. The SD card saved my a** a couple of times with my previous phones, so it is a must have for sure.
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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.
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To you it might be stupid. To Samsung it isn't, cuz now they can brag about them having the fastest performing handset with the fastest flash memory. Does this help me, you and the average user in ANY way? No. Does Samsung care about that? Absolutely not.
On the other hand ppl with S6 will be able to show good results on the different benchmarks, which is.... nice..... I guess.

No reason why they can't have both super fast imbedded storage and an SD card. Of course SD cards are slower than internal, that's always been the case. I'd load the SD card with FLAC music favorites and enjoy the speedy internal storage for more frequent transfers. I understand Samsung's reasoning behind it, but I still don't like it, and it's quite likely this will prevent me from dropping money on Samsung again, at least for my next upgrade. For everyone like me who opts out, they'll probably gain 2 or 3 new buyers, so I doubt they'll miss us much. I was hoping Samsung would find a way to pursue their new industrial design objectives, while retaining the features that have kept me buying and recommending Galaxy phones, but no dice. Of course, if the phone is otherwise so good that the loss of SD, battery, and waterproofing still make it a better device than the M9, G4, Z4....
If I thought there was any reason to believe that the Saygus V2 will: 1. be a real product, 2. work on T-Mobile, 3. get WiFi calling, I'd jump on that.

How one can improve almost everything and then decide to get rid of a removable battery and sd card is beyond imaginable.
So glad I've bought the Note great design, functionality and it has all the features I'm expecting from a premium device.
Hopefully, Samsung doesn't screw up the Note series too.

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So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?
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Probably the G4

I don't think it was just one reason they decided to remove the SD-card and use a non-removable battery
I think they removed the SD card to ensure the user experience was always fast. How many threads have you guys read where crummy SD cards caused slowness, or corruption or some other problem. I know I've read a few. Apple has never liked SD cards, neither has Google themselves. With UFS being introduced, a very fast, serial, full duplex storage connection, that starts at 32GB, it was time to remove the SD slot.
I think they decided to go with a non-removable battery because of all the wireless technology they had to cram into this thing. On top of all the normal wireless technology crammed into phones these days (GSM/CDMA, LTE, 802.11 AC 2x2 MIMO and N, NFC, Bluetooth 4.1), they also had to add Qi, PowerMat wireless charging and MST. I don't think they could get away with a removable cover.
Just guessing, so I could be wrong.

The Galaxy S6 Edge rocks. That's the one. It will fly.
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Well from start Samsung has always portrayed that we will give you a better ""iphone". They did it in S1 to s3 by copying iphone. They changed a bit but that didn't work out well and now they are back to copy business. Seriously this is sad for loyal buyers. Still i am glad they didn't ruin Note series like S series.

Why I won't be getting an S6

While the camera and processor of the new S6 looks amazing, the lack of external memory and battery changing is a deal breaker for me.
Let's start with the memory. Samsung's claim that they don't need to have the external memory slot is because 1.) The on board memory is faster 2.) Android doesn't really allow you to install apps to the external memory anymore 3.) They now offer 128GB models.
While all the above is true, that does not mean i don't want my external memory. Let's start with the price of the phone. A 16GB model will be the base. Then for another $100, you can get the 32GB. Another $100, you can get the $64. And then for another $100 (or probably $200), you can get the $128GB. That means, that the extra memory will cost you at least $300-$400. And remember, this is on a phone that will only last you 1-2 years before you want to upgrade it. So that is $300-$400 wasted. On the other hand, I can buy a Sandisk 128GB microSD card for $100. Everytime I switch phones, I can easily take my memory to the next phone. It's an investment that does not get wasted.
The speed or Android limitations of the external memory doesn't matter for things like movies, ebooks, comics, magazines, music, etc. I keep all that on my memory card, and it loads in less than a second on my phone. On top of that, when I need to load more items, I don't use the slow USB 2.0 interface. I pop out my microSD and put it in my $15 USB 3.0 reader and copy my multimedia over 3-4x faster. With the internal memory of the phone, I would be stuck using a USB 2.0 interface to copy multimedia which can take ridiculously long.
Oh.. and for added bonus, when I want to watch a movie on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5, I can take the 128GB memory card out of my phone, and pop it into the tablet. No muss, no fuss.
Now let's look at the battery.
Since Samsung used the glass back, you can no longer have replaceable batteries. This is my biggest issue with iPhones. I had to set up a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here, as their iPhones were always on low battery (or even dead). Meanwhile, I could bring a small pocketable battery with me everywhere. I keep one in my winter jacket and have one to slip into my jeans. I currently have a Note 4, and have only had to change the battery twice, but it's nice not worrying the entire night that showing my friends pics or texting with a friend, will result in a dead battery for the night.
Sure, you can carry a external battery charger.. But now you have to carry that and a cable that needs to be strapped in all the time to charge. (BTW.. if a manufacturer of these external batteries comes up with a way to utilize Fast Charging to charge the phone 50% in ten minutes, they will make some big $$$$)
I'm not even going to get into the topic of all the cracked iPhone backs I see daily... Which depending on the strength of this new gorilla glass, will probably happen.
Basically my point is, the reason I didn't make the move to iPhone (which 95% of my friends have) is due these options. By removing them, Samsung has made less options available for me to claim that my phone is better than an iPhone.
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone. (EDIT: I am NOT moving to an iPhone.. I guess no understands my humor)

No external memory, no exchangeable battery, no way! What alternatives do we have if we limit this discussion to high end Android phones?

I agree with the all the key points made by EvanWasHere, furthermore, the reason I didn't go for the iPhone, is because no matter how much internal memory they give you, everything you load into your phone such as pictures, video, music, apps., etc......... Will eventually will impact the performance of your phone, unless you upload everything to a virtual storage, such as Drop Box, Google Drive etc...... I think I am going for the Note4.

No replaceable battery makes the AMOLED screen the only reason to still stick with Samsung. Given that a Galaxy phone is still pricey, I wonder if it is this one feature which is worth sticking to Samsung.
Looks like they don't like non-business customers to buy their devices anymore.

I'm not sure where you get $300-$400 from... There is no 16GB S6, it starts at 32GB. Also many Android phones go up by $50 per storage capacity, while a few go by $100 increments. Either way, you are looking at either $100 or $200 more for a 128GB over a 32GB, not $300-$400. Stop being so dramatic.
USB 2.0 is 480Mbps (60MB/s), and from my SanDisk 64GB MicroSD card I usually get around 50MB/s on my USB 3.0 card reader, so it's really not that much slower.

Why downgrade?
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !

VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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I agree with you on some of the points . No micro sd is a huge one. But this dramatic change is much needed for samsung because the s5 wasn't doing so well and if they came up with another s5 then it's going to be a big loss for them. I personally think this is the best decision samsung took. People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd. Otherwise, this is truly a powerful device that's much more polished than any previous iteration.

EvanWasHere said:
i am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then

malek777 said:
People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd.
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Nothing against you bro, but I just want to point out something so quoted you!
Sales are not down because of recycled galaxies...think about it for a second. Sales are down because of the saturated market, and all the super phones! I won't name them all since you can pick just about any to compare and we see the power of these devices i.e. the note 4 what CAN'T it do, the S5 the g3, I phone 6, Nexus 6...
All of the above mentioned are the reason sales are down.
Same reason why development is down also, the devs have so many choices and devices to support it got overwhelming...think HTC HD2 had so many devs they were tripping over each other cause everyone had that phone. Now not only many phones also variants like edge, active, mini further hampers this.
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GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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While I appreciate your points, this is probably how the discussion went at Samsung that led to the poor decision to drop so many of the staple features. The case argument it's the worst...7-9 hundred dollar premium phone and you need to buy more stuff to make it work like it used too (should)! TAKE THE PHONE APART??? Ya they took that feature away REMEMBER!
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EvanWasHere said:
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?

Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.

Yeah, Second thing I usually do with my phone is root and flash to stock to get rid of TW.
First is to swap the microsd out from my old phone, and buy a spare battery and plastic case, so premium build is sort of lost on me, and the rest....
Setting my hopes on the G4 now.

For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
I don't think I've EVER had my G3 die on me - and this phone is not known for its battery life. I have a charger at work and a charger at home and I'm usually at one of these places so I'm never far away from a charger. Does not having a removable battery IN ACTUAL USE really make that big of a difference? If the S6 can last you from morning to night, is that not enough?

My S4 is currently carrying its third battery, the two previous ones (one Samsung, one third-party) slowly died of old age (decreasing health with increasing charging cycles). I rarely forgot to charge my phone over night. It's just that I'd like to use it until the actual hardware fades away, not just until the battery lifetime is reached.

Japultra said:
For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
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I've never switched the battery in my phone, well since my Ericsson T18. But there wasn't a phone since that I ddin't have to remove the battery to turn it off completely, because something got stuck and kept crashing. Or it was the easiest way to boot into recovery after a boot loop. Tablets without removable batteries have reset switches, but any software method you use can't reinitialize hardware as a physical power off can.

This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
^^ These are the only options I can think about. If this is the usual 'sharing your feelings' option, I think one of the Moderators should open a "GS6 SUCKS" thread where everyone of us can go and put all our diatribe.
We have now come to a state where these comments/threads are nothing but a
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riz157 said:
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
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Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .

allmine1976 said:
Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
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This will save dumb buyers from buying too small of a memory size.

VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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Sounds like the s5 is perfect for you! No need to buy another phone....unless you're one of the "sheep" that believes you MUST upgrade every year.
The unibody design is the only real difference over the s5. A faster processor that you won't notice unless you use an app to tell you how fast it is, and some minor software tweaks. The good news is, you already have the phone to fit your needs!
Can't please everyone. The number if people crying about a removable battery is small compared to the ones who don't care. Samsung s6 sales will be through the roof with this new design...then what argument will you guys make? Keep your current phone, problem solved.

GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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I've had multiple microSD cards. 16GB, 64GB, and now 128GB. In 3-4 years of service, swapped between 3 Samsung phones, the 64GB only became flaky once, disconnecting every once in a while. So I had it warrantied. I still retained all my data. Total cost of the cards is still less than I would be paying with a phone that essentially loses value in 1 year. And yes, Android did make it harder to use external SD, but they fixed most of that in Lollipop. It is still fine for multimedia.
Cloud storage is NOT an option. 1.) Cloud storage is slow depending on where you are. My T-Mobile phone drops from LTE to 4G for no apparent reasons sometimes. Plus, when I'm in the air, on the subway, etc, I have no service. So for me to want to watch a 2GB 1080P movie during those time from "cloud storage" is impossible. 2.) Cloud storage costs a month fee as well as has a cap on file size. Have a 8GB 1080p MKV movie.. too bad.. can't store it on your cloud provider.
I don't want a cell phone case with an extended battery in it. The whole point of having a newer phone is a smaller size. As for taking the phone apart to change the battery... No..
I was making a joke about going to iPhone. I have been Android always, but Samsung is the one making the similarities too complete.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
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I was making a joke about the iPhone move. See above.
CLARiiON said:
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
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Oh you poor thing. You had to read my post. Sorry for that. Have a cookie. It will make you feel better.
The POINT of this post is to go on record so hopefully someone from Samsung can see it, and realize that they are hurting their fan base. There are now dozens of articles now talking about this, but without giving it a voice from individuals, Samsung may continue down this path. To try and silence this with a broken record image is pointless and doesn't help the discussion. But thanks for taking the time to write that all out.
On another note, this was just tweeted: https://twitter.com/aadetugbo/status/572446586938232832 (reddit discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2xpld4/one_explanation_on_why_the_s6_has_no_sd_card/ )
"Another of the hidden benefits - this type of RAM. The amount of RAM - 3 GB, the system will not work in 32 and 64 bits. In December 2014, Samsung launched the industry's first production of mobile memory chips LPDRR4 density 8Gb (20 nm process). This technology allows to produce memory chips up to 4 GB, currently available chips 2 and 3 GB (8 and 6 Gbit chips). The maximum data transfer rate of this type of memory is 3.2 GB / s, that is twice higher than the chip rate DDR3, used on the PC. Such a data rate of the following tasks - recording 4K for an unlimited time, simultaneous recording of HD-video on the front and rear camera, continuous shooting at a resolution of 20 megapixels with no limit on number of images. Also, the use of this type of memory is a partial explanation for the rejection of memory cards. Why so? It is because by using slow memory cards, many operations can be problematic, and have main memory can be occupied with user data. Normal users will not understand what the problem is, because there is free memory, which means a bad phone and manufacturer".
I still don't find this explanation acceptable. Especially using 4K, the internal memory will be filled. If I was going out for a day and shooting videos, I would love to have the option of shooting 4K to my internal and moving these videos to my external card as my internal filled. And normal users will not have a problem understanding why the memory is slower as not every normal user would buy an external memory. And those that do, can have a simple pop up on the screen when the phone sees the memory that states that there may be issues or slowness due to this memory.

Nexus 5X specs, underwhelmed

I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.

cabadam said:
I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it

The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.

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cabadam said:
I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
I'm really just going to watch many videos and full reviews of the 5X when the time comes; if I hear great things about it I might consider. Like someone said, I agree with Nexus 5 (2013) phones working great and buttery smooth even til now, so why wouldn't the new one?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it
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I'll take a look at the Z5, that wasn't on my radar. Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, a couple people at work here are telling me that it is just a matter of getting used to the larger phone, that once I do I won't care anymore. I'm skeptical lol...
Evo_Shift said:
The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.
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Yeah, I've definitely heard how well the 2013 Nexus 5 kept up - and I guess that's what I was hoping for in the new phone, but it seems the specs are more oriented to "today", not "tomorrow". I think the processsor is fine, RAM I can live with, but that darn 32GB storage. Yikes.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
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This is the EXACT situation I find myself in on my Galaxy S4. Fortunately because of my SD card, that isn't an issue. Given that the Nexus doesn't offer that, it just seems like the 32GB will fill up very fast. I don't want to move to my new phone and then be fighting storage problems all over again in 6-12 months. Apps, etc are only getting larger and fancier as time goes on.

cant have everything at this price point

jadeddjay said:
cant have everything at this price point
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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.

cabadam said:
I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.
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well i dont think its that simple. adding one more option adds to the cost of manufacturing and logistics etc which changes their bottom line and marketing tactic or whatever.

I'm more let down by the ram than storage space... 2gb... really? I know my note 4 doesn't have that much more, but my previous phone had 2gb, and I was running low on memory at times.

5X is physically WAY bigger than the LG G2 and there is no wireless charging. 16GB storage with no microSD slot shouldn't exist. This thing is definitely a dud.

I ordered the 32GB version and was annoyed to have to pay $50 extra for it. The 2GB of RAM is beat.

Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS

clninja said:
Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS
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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).

cabadam said:
I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).
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I've personally never ran out of space on a 32gb phone but I can definitely see this as an issue for some. For instance those who nandroid alot and those who store their music locally on their phone. An OTG would be a solution but a hassle to have to constantly plug in when you want to use it.
Personally I'd rather buy an OTG for those cases for super cheap than spend an extra $100 for a higher capacity phone

I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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d3si said:
I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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An S810, 3GB of RAM, a top of the line camera, fingerprint sensor, and a full metal design for $499, you think that's overpriced? I'd have to disagree, as most if not all phones boasting the same specs are at least $150 more.
Now onto the 5x, yeah, max 32gb rom is a let down, but at the same time, you can work with it. If it doesn't work for you then this isn't the phone for you (why I ordered the 6p). The more important letdown was the 2gb of ram (the bigger reason for me getting the 6p).
There are plenty of people who cannot and will not fill up a 32gb phone, I see it everyday. Just gotta get the device that's right for you ?

I feel my Nexus 5 is still as fast as the best of them today... which just shows how much technology has plateaued. The 1080p display still wows me compared to other 2K phones, and the processor is still fast to me. I don't think I'm willing to give my storm trooper up just yet... maybe the S7 or Nexus 5X2 will have the 820, 1080p, 4 GB of RAM and an awesome camera for 2016 standards.

After having wireless charging for over 2 years, I've sworn to never buy a phone without it again.
It is a wireless phone!
The only time, and I mean the only time, I plug anything into my phone is when I'm flashing it.
Music? Bluetooth. (Or I use a FiiO)
Hands free? Bluetooth
Charging? The official nexus charger is on the side of my nightstand so I can see the phone if it goes off in the middle of the night, and the standard LG WCP-300 elsewhere.
Synchronizing data? Wifi. This happens automatically every night when I'm at home with the "syncme" app
I mean sheeet...I am quite aware the new usb-c is more rugged than micro-usb is, and less annoying since it plugs in every way...but once you charge your phone by just literally setting it down...you're so glad to never have to fish for that stupid cord again.
I even borrowed a router (the woodworking kind) and made a hole in my desk for the LG charger...it sits flush on my desk now and it's like it is never there.
Screw cords. It's 2015.
If a home cordless phone that I buy for $30 or even less can charge without fishing around for a stupid cable to plug in, than DAMMIT, my $400+ cell phone should be able to as well!

Why sit around and cry about the ram and storage? If it isn't for you, get something that is for you, end of story. 32GB of ram is much more than I'd need, I keep all my music downloaded on my tablet, and never play games or do any heavy duty tasks on my phone so the 5X would work just great for me. Everything is made to fit the needs of some people, not all people.

To the guys that say 2GB RAM is not enough. Are you all talking about for heavy multitasking, gaming or general use? Genuinely curious about the need for >2GB RAM on a phone.

Nexus 5 to 6P Upgrade

So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!

snappycg1996 said:
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?

Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.

snappycg1996 said:
No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.
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If we're going by market value, no it isn't worth it (gb per dollar). What it really comes down to is whether it's worth it to you. Personally, I don't see the need for 128gb on my phone, but I've seen plenty of people claim that even 128gb isn't enough. If you buy the device you'll have a top Android phone regardless of the capacity you go for. It all comes down to whether you actually need that amount of storage.

I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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Cleva1 said:
I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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I'm just curious if I'll be like that since I'll have all my music on here, and for 100 more, I double the memory. In theory it sounds like a good idea but I don't know anymore. Very hard to decide.

I also have a Nexus 5 (2013) 32GB and now a Nexus 6P 32GB. I could only get the smallest version from my provider (Vodafone) but I can live with the storage. I´m not somebody who needs to carry e.g. all Seasons of Family Guy or other sitcoms on my device. Worst case I will get a USB Type C OTG Stick and use this from time to time to move eg. pictures and TWRP backups on this one. I would have loved the 64GB version but it was not available because the demand for this phone is not very high. Most guys chose other brands.
In terms of performance and battery life there is a huge difference with the Nexus 6P. I can get up to 8h of SOT ( most the time around 6-7+ ). I don´t have 100eds of Apps or Games installed and I use a customized, Stock based ROM which suits my needs. From a technical point of view, the Nexus 6P is a great device but it´s not as rugged as it seems. Make sure to threat it better than eg. your girlfriend because this device tends to bend or to warp quite easily...even if you use a decent case with it.

I bought the aluminum Nexus 6P with 128GB. I have about 55GB of music that I want to carry with me on my phone while leaving plenty of space for future app installation and Nandroid backups, so anything less than the 128GB version wouldn't have worked for me. I haven't bought a Nexus phone in many years because of the lack of expandable storage and available internal storage being 64GB or less, so it was great to be able to come back to a Nexus phone this cycle.

The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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dcrandon said:
The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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*definitely

Heisenberg said:
*definitely
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Haha. I should pay more attention to my automatic spell check.

snappycg1996 said:
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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I made the jump to the 6p from the 5 and the difference in SOT is soooo pronounced dude. I was constantly running into issues because of my 5 constantly dying on me, or stressed about it constantly being on the verge of dying on me when it wasn't already dead lol. Not an issue whatsoever with the 6p, those extra 3ish hours make a world of difference
As for memory, 64gh should be plenty. I dual boot ROMs, have a large chunk of my music collection and have scads of photos and apps on mine and I'm (barely) getting by with a 32gb That being said, if you're someone who uses their phone in lieu of a computer then obviously the more the merrier.
All of this stuff is relative though, so my needs from my phone won't necessarily reflect yours, obviously. No matter what its a super sick phone though and a massive step up from the 5.