While the camera and processor of the new S6 looks amazing, the lack of external memory and battery changing is a deal breaker for me.
Let's start with the memory. Samsung's claim that they don't need to have the external memory slot is because 1.) The on board memory is faster 2.) Android doesn't really allow you to install apps to the external memory anymore 3.) They now offer 128GB models.
While all the above is true, that does not mean i don't want my external memory. Let's start with the price of the phone. A 16GB model will be the base. Then for another $100, you can get the 32GB. Another $100, you can get the $64. And then for another $100 (or probably $200), you can get the $128GB. That means, that the extra memory will cost you at least $300-$400. And remember, this is on a phone that will only last you 1-2 years before you want to upgrade it. So that is $300-$400 wasted. On the other hand, I can buy a Sandisk 128GB microSD card for $100. Everytime I switch phones, I can easily take my memory to the next phone. It's an investment that does not get wasted.
The speed or Android limitations of the external memory doesn't matter for things like movies, ebooks, comics, magazines, music, etc. I keep all that on my memory card, and it loads in less than a second on my phone. On top of that, when I need to load more items, I don't use the slow USB 2.0 interface. I pop out my microSD and put it in my $15 USB 3.0 reader and copy my multimedia over 3-4x faster. With the internal memory of the phone, I would be stuck using a USB 2.0 interface to copy multimedia which can take ridiculously long.
Oh.. and for added bonus, when I want to watch a movie on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5, I can take the 128GB memory card out of my phone, and pop it into the tablet. No muss, no fuss.
Now let's look at the battery.
Since Samsung used the glass back, you can no longer have replaceable batteries. This is my biggest issue with iPhones. I had to set up a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here, as their iPhones were always on low battery (or even dead). Meanwhile, I could bring a small pocketable battery with me everywhere. I keep one in my winter jacket and have one to slip into my jeans. I currently have a Note 4, and have only had to change the battery twice, but it's nice not worrying the entire night that showing my friends pics or texting with a friend, will result in a dead battery for the night.
Sure, you can carry a external battery charger.. But now you have to carry that and a cable that needs to be strapped in all the time to charge. (BTW.. if a manufacturer of these external batteries comes up with a way to utilize Fast Charging to charge the phone 50% in ten minutes, they will make some big $$$$)
I'm not even going to get into the topic of all the cracked iPhone backs I see daily... Which depending on the strength of this new gorilla glass, will probably happen.
Basically my point is, the reason I didn't make the move to iPhone (which 95% of my friends have) is due these options. By removing them, Samsung has made less options available for me to claim that my phone is better than an iPhone.
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone. (EDIT: I am NOT moving to an iPhone.. I guess no understands my humor)
No external memory, no exchangeable battery, no way! What alternatives do we have if we limit this discussion to high end Android phones?
I agree with the all the key points made by EvanWasHere, furthermore, the reason I didn't go for the iPhone, is because no matter how much internal memory they give you, everything you load into your phone such as pictures, video, music, apps., etc......... Will eventually will impact the performance of your phone, unless you upload everything to a virtual storage, such as Drop Box, Google Drive etc...... I think I am going for the Note4.
No replaceable battery makes the AMOLED screen the only reason to still stick with Samsung. Given that a Galaxy phone is still pricey, I wonder if it is this one feature which is worth sticking to Samsung.
Looks like they don't like non-business customers to buy their devices anymore.
I'm not sure where you get $300-$400 from... There is no 16GB S6, it starts at 32GB. Also many Android phones go up by $50 per storage capacity, while a few go by $100 increments. Either way, you are looking at either $100 or $200 more for a 128GB over a 32GB, not $300-$400. Stop being so dramatic.
USB 2.0 is 480Mbps (60MB/s), and from my SanDisk 64GB MicroSD card I usually get around 50MB/s on my USB 3.0 card reader, so it's really not that much slower.
Why downgrade?
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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I agree with you on some of the points . No micro sd is a huge one. But this dramatic change is much needed for samsung because the s5 wasn't doing so well and if they came up with another s5 then it's going to be a big loss for them. I personally think this is the best decision samsung took. People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd. Otherwise, this is truly a powerful device that's much more polished than any previous iteration.
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i am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
malek777 said:
People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd.
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Nothing against you bro, but I just want to point out something so quoted you!
Sales are not down because of recycled galaxies...think about it for a second. Sales are down because of the saturated market, and all the super phones! I won't name them all since you can pick just about any to compare and we see the power of these devices i.e. the note 4 what CAN'T it do, the S5 the g3, I phone 6, Nexus 6...
All of the above mentioned are the reason sales are down.
Same reason why development is down also, the devs have so many choices and devices to support it got overwhelming...think HTC HD2 had so many devs they were tripping over each other cause everyone had that phone. Now not only many phones also variants like edge, active, mini further hampers this.
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memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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While I appreciate your points, this is probably how the discussion went at Samsung that led to the poor decision to drop so many of the staple features. The case argument it's the worst...7-9 hundred dollar premium phone and you need to buy more stuff to make it work like it used too (should)! TAKE THE PHONE APART??? Ya they took that feature away REMEMBER!
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I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
Yeah, Second thing I usually do with my phone is root and flash to stock to get rid of TW.
First is to swap the microsd out from my old phone, and buy a spare battery and plastic case, so premium build is sort of lost on me, and the rest....
Setting my hopes on the G4 now.
For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
I don't think I've EVER had my G3 die on me - and this phone is not known for its battery life. I have a charger at work and a charger at home and I'm usually at one of these places so I'm never far away from a charger. Does not having a removable battery IN ACTUAL USE really make that big of a difference? If the S6 can last you from morning to night, is that not enough?
My S4 is currently carrying its third battery, the two previous ones (one Samsung, one third-party) slowly died of old age (decreasing health with increasing charging cycles). I rarely forgot to charge my phone over night. It's just that I'd like to use it until the actual hardware fades away, not just until the battery lifetime is reached.
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For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
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I've never switched the battery in my phone, well since my Ericsson T18. But there wasn't a phone since that I ddin't have to remove the battery to turn it off completely, because something got stuck and kept crashing. Or it was the easiest way to boot into recovery after a boot loop. Tablets without removable batteries have reset switches, but any software method you use can't reinitialize hardware as a physical power off can.
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
^^ These are the only options I can think about. If this is the usual 'sharing your feelings' option, I think one of the Moderators should open a "GS6 SUCKS" thread where everyone of us can go and put all our diatribe.
We have now come to a state where these comments/threads are nothing but a
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riz157 said:
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
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Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
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Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
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This will save dumb buyers from buying too small of a memory size.
VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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Sounds like the s5 is perfect for you! No need to buy another phone....unless you're one of the "sheep" that believes you MUST upgrade every year.
The unibody design is the only real difference over the s5. A faster processor that you won't notice unless you use an app to tell you how fast it is, and some minor software tweaks. The good news is, you already have the phone to fit your needs!
Can't please everyone. The number if people crying about a removable battery is small compared to the ones who don't care. Samsung s6 sales will be through the roof with this new design...then what argument will you guys make? Keep your current phone, problem solved.
GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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I've had multiple microSD cards. 16GB, 64GB, and now 128GB. In 3-4 years of service, swapped between 3 Samsung phones, the 64GB only became flaky once, disconnecting every once in a while. So I had it warrantied. I still retained all my data. Total cost of the cards is still less than I would be paying with a phone that essentially loses value in 1 year. And yes, Android did make it harder to use external SD, but they fixed most of that in Lollipop. It is still fine for multimedia.
Cloud storage is NOT an option. 1.) Cloud storage is slow depending on where you are. My T-Mobile phone drops from LTE to 4G for no apparent reasons sometimes. Plus, when I'm in the air, on the subway, etc, I have no service. So for me to want to watch a 2GB 1080P movie during those time from "cloud storage" is impossible. 2.) Cloud storage costs a month fee as well as has a cap on file size. Have a 8GB 1080p MKV movie.. too bad.. can't store it on your cloud provider.
I don't want a cell phone case with an extended battery in it. The whole point of having a newer phone is a smaller size. As for taking the phone apart to change the battery... No..
I was making a joke about going to iPhone. I have been Android always, but Samsung is the one making the similarities too complete.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
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I was making a joke about the iPhone move. See above.
CLARiiON said:
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
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Oh you poor thing. You had to read my post. Sorry for that. Have a cookie. It will make you feel better.
The POINT of this post is to go on record so hopefully someone from Samsung can see it, and realize that they are hurting their fan base. There are now dozens of articles now talking about this, but without giving it a voice from individuals, Samsung may continue down this path. To try and silence this with a broken record image is pointless and doesn't help the discussion. But thanks for taking the time to write that all out.
On another note, this was just tweeted: https://twitter.com/aadetugbo/status/572446586938232832 (reddit discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2xpld4/one_explanation_on_why_the_s6_has_no_sd_card/ )
"Another of the hidden benefits - this type of RAM. The amount of RAM - 3 GB, the system will not work in 32 and 64 bits. In December 2014, Samsung launched the industry's first production of mobile memory chips LPDRR4 density 8Gb (20 nm process). This technology allows to produce memory chips up to 4 GB, currently available chips 2 and 3 GB (8 and 6 Gbit chips). The maximum data transfer rate of this type of memory is 3.2 GB / s, that is twice higher than the chip rate DDR3, used on the PC. Such a data rate of the following tasks - recording 4K for an unlimited time, simultaneous recording of HD-video on the front and rear camera, continuous shooting at a resolution of 20 megapixels with no limit on number of images. Also, the use of this type of memory is a partial explanation for the rejection of memory cards. Why so? It is because by using slow memory cards, many operations can be problematic, and have main memory can be occupied with user data. Normal users will not understand what the problem is, because there is free memory, which means a bad phone and manufacturer".
I still don't find this explanation acceptable. Especially using 4K, the internal memory will be filled. If I was going out for a day and shooting videos, I would love to have the option of shooting 4K to my internal and moving these videos to my external card as my internal filled. And normal users will not have a problem understanding why the memory is slower as not every normal user would buy an external memory. And those that do, can have a simple pop up on the screen when the phone sees the memory that states that there may be issues or slowness due to this memory.
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Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
I will buy the 64gb version. Even that won't be sufficient storage for me. Not even close. Yes I have a monster music collection, even at 256kbps it's well over 100GB.
I can live without the battery, but there is no reason not to have an SD slot.
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Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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You sir sound like a reasonable person. But everyone has there own reasoning , let them be stupid. I couldn't care less it just means more ones to go around
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I laugh at people who aren't getting this phone because of non-removable battery
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They aren't laughing at you: they feel.nothing but pity.
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They aren't laughing at you: they feel.nothing but pity.
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My fellow troll, First off you should speak for yourself. Secondly I pity you for buying the phone even though you are troubled about the non-removable battery, also pretty laughable tho. At least I don't give a flying f about the battery.
Shasarak said:
Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: my shiny new HTC One should be arriving tomorrow. Thanks to HTC's idiotic decision not to supply either a removable battery or a memory card slot, I am going to need both some form of external storage that the phone can access - perhaps a flash drive accessed via OTG, but I'm open to other suggestions - and an external battery/charger of some kind; and (which may be the tricky part) it has to be possible to access both of these things simultaneously.
With regards to power, capacity is clearly important (i.e. the number of mAh held) but it does also need to be reasonably portable - not something that weighs over a pound! - and, if at all possible, it should be something that can be charged or replenished very quickly. Ideally it should be able to charge the phone's internal battery as fast as a mains charger can.
For storage, I need a decent amount - 32GB is the absolute minimum, but 64GB or more would be better. It would also be helpful to have something not too big and heavy (I'll be carrying it around at all times). And, if possible, it should also be fast - especially when transferring files from a PC.
I may be acquiring a case at some point as well - not sure about that yet.
Advice, please!
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Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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I hear you cause i never replace tha battery of a phone myself but some people do. Some people carry an extra battery to swap out real quick and keep doing their thing, it depends on how you use your phone. But having a removable battery is always better than non removable.
barondebxl said:
I hear you cause i never replace tha battery of a phone myself but some people do. Some people carry an extra battery to swap out real quick and keep doing their thing, it depends on how you use your phone. But having a removable battery is always better than non removable.
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I guess that makes sense... I guess the average user does not carry multiple batteries with them but you make a valid point.:good:
I prefer the aesthetics of the One over the choice to have a removable battery. Only times I had to take the battery out of my S3 was to restart the phone.
I haven't missed it at all on my N4.
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I prefer the aesthetics of the One over the choice to have a removable battery. Only times I had to take the battery out of my S3 was to restart the phone.
I haven't missed it at all on my N4.
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HTC is stingy with their battery size. They make a phone with a killer design and give it an mediocre battery size ( the HTC One has an acceptable battery size, the One X and droid buterfly/DNA is totally unacceptable).
unfortunately, i completely disagree with you.. the ability to remove the battery and replace it is a incredible convenience. i have 3 batteries that i use even though i dont use it every day...
1. i never have to plug my phone into an outlet.. i can carry my phone with me even if i walk around the house.. once my battery is low i switch it out and replace the other battery and have my other battery charging on a separate battery charger.
2. after using my phone all day i can come home and switch my battery and go out again without having to wait for my battery to charge, charging while i drive doesnt give me enough power when i go out..
3. i never have to worry about my battery level, i dont have to pace myself when i use my phone.. i use it freely.. unlike some users that turn off their 3G, wifi.. to conserve battery
4. it's especially great when i go on vacation, since i use my phone for navigation, surf the web, yelp, etc. my phone is on heavy usage, but i don't have to worry since i have 3 batteries..
You might not appreciate it but one of the great things about Android is users have a choice of what they need, and having the ability to replace my battery is always a plus.
having said that i am still getting the one because i love the built, not having a removable battery is just a trade off i will have to live with.. and hopefully i wont regret it..
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My fellow troll, First off you should speak for yourself. Secondly I pity you for buying the phone even though you are troubled about the non-removable battery, also pretty laughable tho. At least I don't give a flying f about the battery.
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Buying a smartphone invariably involves compromises. There's a lot that (from my perspective) is wrong with the One - the screen is much too small, the lack of storage, the fixed battery; there's also a lot that's right - a non-OLED display, good-quality built-in speakers, good performance, and a camera that doesn't pander only to marketing numbers. Right now it's the best compromise available.
The problems with your initial post are that it betrays a woeful lack of imagination, and a woeful level of arrogance. You are unable to understand why other people's requirements might be different from your own, and unable to accept that their opinions may actually be just as valid as yours, despite being different. I would have been happier with more storage (if the 64GB version were actually available in Britain, that would be a good start), and with a removable battery; but, unlike you, I am able to understand why other people might not have the same requirements that I have (for example, because they don't watch downloaded hi-def video on their phones to the extent that I'm likely to) and it would never occur to me to ridicule someone merely because they have different priorities.
Those who says that he needs removable battery are psycho idiots.
Try not to depend on your mobile phone, try to have normal life then just typing.
When my battery is low, im happy, leave him on bad, and go out work something, or make dinner.
Why the **** do you bring phone in kitchen or when you go to coffe with friends?
Its a sick man, better try to find medical help.
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1: external battery cases
2: stronger, nicer designs
3: battery life times are longer than ever and I'm more likely to upgrade than need to replace an unhealthy battery.
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Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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Dude, I replaced my phone battery twice because it bloated.
As much I prefer removable batteries, I see its probably near impossible to provide a practical unibody chassis with a removable battery.
You clearly do not to swap your battery out, there are people who do and so this isn't the phone for them......... quite simple really, get over it, the world doesn't revolve around you.
Removable battery or lack there of is slightly annoying but to be honest you get a 2 year warranty so if it does fail you can get it replaced easily enough. Yes it's not as convenient as if you could swap it our yourself or even get an uprated Mugen battery for longer life but c'est la vie, the One is still more than good enough with a non-removable.....
Also on storage....There are surely very few people who will honestly use more than 64gig, and if you do happen to need more than this on your phone then honestly you need to invest in a laptop/PC and an external hard-drive or if you just want it for music, buy an MP3 player with a card slot......this should do it http://www.amazon.co.uk/micro-card-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363338492&sr=1-1
If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.
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If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.
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Dharkan said:
If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.
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My thoughts exactly, having thousands of songs loaded on your phone is stupid... you only listen to a few!
I will laugh at OP when a storm strikes his residence and no electricity for a few days. Then you will remember this stupid thread. That happened with me some weeks ago and if not for my beloved HD2, I would be screwed. It was a once in a lifetime thing, but it happened. Removable battery and sd slot are important features, that matter for many users, for various reasons. I don"t care about IR remote control, but if it is important for some users, I don"t ***** about it.
Samsung IV is an ugly piece of plastic with an ugly UI, but they"re doing it right with the aforementioned features because Samsung knows that many android users aren"t yet isheeps, ie, users that turn a bad thing into a glorious invention.
Android filesystem limitations make sd slot important and an external battery is not as handy as a removable one. A phone can be slim and have this features. Htc and Asus are just trying to save / make more money.
We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.
I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.
Join the HTC boat
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das boot said:
I think you are looking for the iPhone forum. Just an FYI - this is the wrong forum.
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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.
Simple really..the S6 has a better:
Design
Camera
Screen
**and that's just for starters
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Please, explain to me the difference between S6 and an iPhone other than the OS.
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You are right. The S6 is practically an iPhone. Its a shame. But I am sure you know that Samsung had a terrible year last year while Apple had one of the best quarters they ever had. Samsung had to change something, and I guess that change was copying the iPhone again. I guess they're hoping to draw back a lot of iPhone users now that their design can compete. But that's about it. I do not understand why HTC can manage to fit a micro sd slot in their phone. Why couldn't Samsung?
So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?
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We live in a world where looks apparently matters more than anything. I get it, a hot girl and dumb blonde model is more desirable than a average looking PhD.
But for a phone? You dropped removable battery and SD card slot for metal and glass? Are you [email protected]#$ kidding me? Goodbye Samsuck.
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We live in a world where people use pictures of women getting f***ed as their member logo. Yet you talk about how others. You can get a good looking women who is intelligent too fyi
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.
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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
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@MattMJB0188 - Cuz htc's newest device isn't 6.8mm thick, that is why they manged to fit an SD slot.
Also you are forgetting an important point about the memory of the S6. It uses new type of flash memory, instead of the old NAND one, meaning that the overall performance of the phone would improve. Samsung are trying to achieve better write and read speeds basically.
Now imagine a scenario where you did had a SD card slot. Well what do you thing the speed of read and write would be from the card? Like 5x slower? Hence the performance of the whole device wouldn't feel as snappy. Then ppl are going to start bi***ing about the lag, and not being able to copy a whole blue-ray movie onto their cards for under 3 seconds and so on and so on.
So yeah. I thing Samsung tried dodging a bullet there by removing the SD card. Of course it has its negative sides, but in general should be fine without SD slot.
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The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.
I can live without hw buttons and oled screen doesn't bother me either. there's nothing wrong with either imo they are both good screens oled, and slcd.
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You are right. Of course, can we really expect all 4 major U.S. carriers offering 32/64/128gB configurations of the phone? I don't think so. If history repeats itself (which with Sammy you know it will) the carriers will only get 32GB variants, and then MAYBE 64GB variants sometime this summer with 128GB be left out over seas. This is WHY expandable storage is a MUST with Samsung phones. I'll gladly take a performance hit instead of have no option at all.
Besides... people complained about TW lagging and simple things taking a few extra seconds. I never read from anyone on here that their SD card was so slow that the phone's performance was taking a huge hit.
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The fact that most carriers (not only US ones) are not offering the 128GB model, or even the 64GB is true, and it sucks. I, too am very sad about removing the SD card slot. The SD card saved my a** a couple of times with my previous phones, so it is a must have for sure.
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Except HTC do not have AMOLED or the capacitive/home buttons...
The argument about faster memory is stupid. Nobody is stopping Samsung from putting faster memory onboard. However, do you really need lightning fast memory for storing your music, or photos, maps, or videos? No. That's bollocks. SD card is plenty fast for those.
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To you it might be stupid. To Samsung it isn't, cuz now they can brag about them having the fastest performing handset with the fastest flash memory. Does this help me, you and the average user in ANY way? No. Does Samsung care about that? Absolutely not.
On the other hand ppl with S6 will be able to show good results on the different benchmarks, which is.... nice..... I guess.
No reason why they can't have both super fast imbedded storage and an SD card. Of course SD cards are slower than internal, that's always been the case. I'd load the SD card with FLAC music favorites and enjoy the speedy internal storage for more frequent transfers. I understand Samsung's reasoning behind it, but I still don't like it, and it's quite likely this will prevent me from dropping money on Samsung again, at least for my next upgrade. For everyone like me who opts out, they'll probably gain 2 or 3 new buyers, so I doubt they'll miss us much. I was hoping Samsung would find a way to pursue their new industrial design objectives, while retaining the features that have kept me buying and recommending Galaxy phones, but no dice. Of course, if the phone is otherwise so good that the loss of SD, battery, and waterproofing still make it a better device than the M9, G4, Z4....
If I thought there was any reason to believe that the Saygus V2 will: 1. be a real product, 2. work on T-Mobile, 3. get WiFi calling, I'd jump on that.
How one can improve almost everything and then decide to get rid of a removable battery and sd card is beyond imaginable.
So glad I've bought the Note great design, functionality and it has all the features I'm expecting from a premium device.
Hopefully, Samsung doesn't screw up the Note series too.
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So at the moment, are there any new flagship phones with both removable battery and SD card?
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Probably the G4
I don't think it was just one reason they decided to remove the SD-card and use a non-removable battery
I think they removed the SD card to ensure the user experience was always fast. How many threads have you guys read where crummy SD cards caused slowness, or corruption or some other problem. I know I've read a few. Apple has never liked SD cards, neither has Google themselves. With UFS being introduced, a very fast, serial, full duplex storage connection, that starts at 32GB, it was time to remove the SD slot.
I think they decided to go with a non-removable battery because of all the wireless technology they had to cram into this thing. On top of all the normal wireless technology crammed into phones these days (GSM/CDMA, LTE, 802.11 AC 2x2 MIMO and N, NFC, Bluetooth 4.1), they also had to add Qi, PowerMat wireless charging and MST. I don't think they could get away with a removable cover.
Just guessing, so I could be wrong.
The Galaxy S6 Edge rocks. That's the one. It will fly.
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Well from start Samsung has always portrayed that we will give you a better ""iphone". They did it in S1 to s3 by copying iphone. They changed a bit but that didn't work out well and now they are back to copy business. Seriously this is sad for loyal buyers. Still i am glad they didn't ruin Note series like S series.
OK We're going to redesign our flagship phone from the ground up.......no compromises........no legacy baggage........no repeating of old mistakes...........where shall we start?
Well the iphone 6 has no expanded memory, no removal battery and it's the best selling phone out there....and as we're goign to launch the S6 perhaps if we make it similar enough people might think our S6 is in fact an I6?
Sounds good to me, let's do that then.
Seriously though, why throw away your differentiators because you're suddenly losing market share at the top end of the market? Instead trim the far too many number of devices and bring out faster updates for your existing devices (part of the reason updates are so slow is the software teams are spread way too thin over far too many different devices).
Speaking personally I've stopped buying Samsung devices until a year after they've launched and on the expectation that I'll get no more software updates.......because that's when they become cost efficient......usually 50% of launch price and still perfectly adequate devices.
The S6 is not going to solve their issues IMHO as they're trying to address the wrong problem.
Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.
I also feel the reason we only get a 16GB or 32GB version in the US (or worse in some markets) is the expandable memory excuse the carriers throw at customers. See you don't need a 32/64/128GB iPhone you can put a microSD in the phone and voila 16GB+128GB its MORE. Well its not, because nothing beats having all of your memory built in accessible for apps, BIG APPS we all like to play. Samsung can use more of their own memory, make more profit for their own company, they make everything including the kitchen sink so why not use their own display, memory, processor, etc and only outsource the parts they have to like the Sony Camera module. Also using Exynos across the board allows for standardization and perhaps that means when it comes to Android updates it won't take 8 months to get it out the door because they only have to build it for one processor instead of 2 or 3.
While it can be frustrating for a phone not to have a feature you use quite often, those people who are upset about a non-removable battery and no microSD card option HAVE to realise that they are in a very small minority. For MOST people, not having these options will not affect their experience.
I know very few people with Androids that have a microSD card reader who actually have a microSD card. And for the majority of people, 32 GB will be plenty enough for them.
My music collection dates back 15 years and in those 15 years, I haven't even acquired 32 gb of music! I honestly don't know why someone would want to put 10,000 songs onto their phone for. At an average of 3.5 minutes a song, that's 35,000 minutes (or 583 hours or TWENTY FOUR days worth) of music. Does anyone really need that much on their device at any one time?
More than 95% of the general public simply don't care about removable batteries or sd cards. XDA doesn't even represent 1% of smartphone buyers. I'm not saying I like these changes, just that the random Joe that doesn't know much about smartphones but will still spend $200+ buying one doesn't say "oh no, I can't remove this phone's battery or put an sd card. Let me get a different phone". They don't care, and Samsung will not cater to a overwhelmingly small minority.
Personally, if that was the tradeoff for having a beautiful metal and glass phone then I'm more than pleased.
I sure hope the future has more sd slots and removable batteries.
Its shocking for some people to realize that 99.9999% of other people don't believe in the same things that they believe in and that they are an insignificant minority.
As much as I love removable battery and SD slot, I'll give them up for beautiful design. The s5 had everything except the kitchen sink but a pig with lipstick is still a pig, imho.
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I don't get why people get 'outraged'. I can understand disappointed, but come on - is a phone!
There are plenty of other phone options. Don't buy a new one at all if none of the new ones meet your needs.
To say samsung had lost their mind, or failed, is ridiculous. They just made a phone that doesn't appeal to YOU. They think it will appeal to more overall customers, and they are probably right. If they are wrong they'll make changes on the S7.
TLDR: is fine if the s6 doesn't appeal to you. Wait for another phone or buy something else. No need to get upset.
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Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.
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Well you answered most of your own questions. They lost market share as the S5 sold well but not well enough with HTC and Sony making a decent impacts with their handsets. Samsung wants to be the one to beat so it makes perfect sense that they'd replicate a winning formula. Why wouldn't they? They're a commercial entity, they're in it to make money and sell as many as they can. For every person who won't buy it because it doesn't have an sd card or removal battery they will gain a ton more because to the average consumer these things aren't as important as having a super stylish phone which takes great photos and works well.
On that note; having a removable battery wasn't going to last forever. They were a niche in the market at this point. Other android manufacturers bucked this trend long ago and it hasn't dented people buying those handsets so it was only natural that Samsung were eventually going to do it as well. They made a point of addressing this in their unpacking saying that they wanted to wait until they reached a point where they knew battery life wouldn't be a problem so by using their own processor and using more efficient internals they felt that they were at a point to do this.
It's pretty much a similar story with the SD card not having expandable storage. With cloud and whatever else, it's never been easier to move extra files from your phone that aren't vital to other sources. Does the average consumer really need 64GB/128GB of storage? I severely doubt it. The biggest drain will be photos and music. 32GB will probably cut it for the average consumer but now there are more options for those who need those extra GB's. I too at first was skeptical as I like the idea of having an external SD card having finally got used to having it on my HTC M8 but I didn't miss it on my M7, I just wish i had more space. Having it on the M8 just meant I could add more music I wouldn't listen to anyway. I'm definitely guilty of that. Again, it's worked for the iPhone so why not anything else?
I have to commend Samsung really. For the first time I'm actually considering changing from HTC and I've had every flagship by them since the Hero. The S6 Edge in particularly looks fantastic IMO. They've listened to what people's main concerns were and changed them, then enhanced everything else and borrowed from Apple the things that work for them. My concern right now is the battery life which is the only thing that is going to potentially hamper this device. Even Touchwiz looks much refined and I have a Note 2 I picked up for when I travel abroad and absolutely despise it.
The proof will be in the pudding but I expect the S6 to be the best selling handset of the year and providing there are no concerns with the battery think it will even beat the M9 this year as Phone of the Year. As much as it pains me to say that.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/07/expecting-the-galaxy-note-5-to-have-a-microsd-slot-dont/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/01/galaxy-note-5-sm-n920-tech-specs-and-s6-edge-leaked/
This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
Ps: updated info on Note 5 confirms the rumours.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14/new-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-renders-surface/
toofimoofi said:
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This sux. I wont be buying Note 5 now
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you should have understood that when sammobile have started bashing microsd cards.
I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.
Meh, this is my last samsung device.
snap, no sd card no sale from me, likewise removable battery....
my wife was due a upgrade and wanted the s6 but because of this she is staying with the note 2.
People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast? SD card is really important if you have a lot of offline media. It doesn't make my device less useful or enjoyable if there's that microsecond lag or whatnot. Note 4 will be my last from Samsung then.
Sucks if true...
I like SD and removable battery! Hope that they dont copy the S6!!!
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People always compare the speed but in actual use, do you really need it to be THAT fast?
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Yes, that's the whole idea of upgrading to a newer phone, right ?
But with no noticeable difference in real world usage or unnecessary need/want, a normal user won't upgrade immediately anyway.
I would never need another battery for my phone. As long as its 64gig or higher im fine with no micro sd.
The article sounds more like speculation rather than any reveal from a source.
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I don't mind if they up the internal size to 64/128 standard considering the type of phone that it is, but I also don't believe I'm the typical user either. I go on trips and will take thousands of photo and video combinations. Transferring them via usb on my Mac Pro(same problem on my other PCs) would take a life-time because of how slow the Samsung program takes, so I just pop the microsd on an adapter and stick it into my computer and let everything transfer in a few minutes.
by Samsux hello LG
that's not a bad thing,only if no removeable battery.
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I think it's a good decision from Samsung. MicroSD just slows the device down. It already does, for example resuming of the Note 4 will be 300 ms faster if you have the microSD card removed. And I'm not even talking about file access itself. And the difference is now even going to get bigger. Just buy a phone with a decent amount of internal memory if you need it.
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Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.
Looks like I made the right choice in getting my Galaxy Note 4 N910C rather than waiting for the Note 5. Not having a user removable and microSDCard expansion is a deal killer for me.
Armazia said:
Absolutely disagree with your opinion about this, even though you are kinda right.
The whole concept of the microsd slowing the phone down is wrong already. SDcards are there for external storage, not in any kind of use in combination of apps.
Also when you choose between 64 GB and 128 GB internal storage, you might drop an extra 200 bucks just for extra storage. Where a sd card is WAY cheaper.
They probably also remove the SD so the phone gets thinner; What is it with people and extreme thin phones?
Don't we all agree we would rather have an extra bit of juice instead of an 7mm thick phone? its just ridiculous.
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Good post, I'm in complete agreement. I don't understand Samsung. One of the major benefits of buying the Note 4 or S5 was the removeable battery and MicroSD. Those features are also why people stick with Android instead of moving over to the dark side.
It must be a cost issue, there's no other rationale. If they are saving £5 per device by fixing the battery in place and removing the MicroSD slot, then that very quickly becomes a significant revenue boost when you're selling 1 million devices.
I'm not due an upgrade until September 2016, which will be Note 6 territory. If the Note 6 has a fixed battery and no MicroSD slot, then I won't be buying it.
The nexus 6 is looking like a more compelling upgrade now
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the every time i want to have clean flash on note 5 , i should backup my data !!! aaaAAAAAAA disaster ...
Just don't buy the note 5 and be sure to let Samsung know why. No removable battery and no microSD is pretty crappy if you want to use your phone with the Gear VR or as a work phone without having to be glued to an outlet. I'm also expecting it to ship with android 5.1.1 as well, so it's an immediate no-buy for me as it will hardly be any better than the current Note 4. The note 6 on the other hand is going to be a significant improvement and will hopefully come with all the bells and whistles (samsung's custom core SoC).
I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
The rumor of the MicroSD slot returning is definitely one that caught my interest. Plus the fact that they are supposed to be working with Google to improve TouchWiz makes things sound even better. I am interested in the S7 with al the rumors going around, but I still want to see what the other companies have to offer before I make my choice.
Given my choices, the decision will be easy, assuming the micro sd card returns. I personally would also love to see the return of remove-able battery, but I can live without that. Whatever phone I wind up with, is going to go right into a protective case, so the solidness and elegance of the build is of little importance. Nice, but for me, form is trumped by function. The S6 was too much of an iPhone wannabe. I'd rather get an iPhone. The ability to expand storage on a phone that is also highly customizable, that is what I love about my S5. It is like having a phone that is also a highly powerful computer. I can sync with my home pc remotely, pull files over to myself, etc. These are features you lose with iPhone without jailbreak, but there are things IPhone does better than Samsung. It would be a real toss up. The return of the sd feature alone, would make my decision for me.
Well, the choices you have right now make the S7 an easy choice, but remember this is a new year and therefor new phones from other companies later on. With the Snapdragon 820 in effect now I rather wait a few months to see what happens even though I do like the way the S7 is looking.
Yeah, despite how much I hate the idea of a phone without replaceable battery, if the S7 comes with SD, that will probably be enough to upgrade from my S4, which is actually still plugging along nicely. I was all set to get an S6 until it was released, but losing both battery & storage cost them a sale.
I'm really leaning towards the S7 if they have the return of the sdcard slot. I'm currently using the Note 4. But I also want to see what the Note 6 has in store as well. If they do indeed decide to put back in the sdcard and have better battery life then I"m all in. But thats almost 7 months away, not sure if I can hold off that long...lol.
Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
I will wait to see what note 6 brings. I still keep my note 4. I can't justify "upgrade" to phone without sd card, non removable battery, lack of infrared port and hdmi out. All those features I regularly use
hella356 said:
Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
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So true. Who cares how the phone looks. It is nice to have a slim, aesthetically appealing phone, but I would take an extra mm or 2 thickness for an extra 300-500ma on the battery any day, and having a remove-able battery is important when your phone crashes and you need to completely shut the thing off. Function trumps form, though form can be cool, just know that a case is going to minimize the cool day 1.
On my S5, when it occasionally crashes, holding down the power button for 7 seconds does nothing for me. I have to remove the battery to shut the dang thing completely off. I am curious if this is also true on the S6, and if so, what they heck users do when their phone crashes? Wait out the battery drain?
Return of SD Card is crucial. My company pays for the minimum phone, and don't allow us to chip in for upgrades, which means if I want to use a company phone (free phone), I am stuck using the lowest storage option. 32gb ain't going to cut it. Removable battery would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Return of Waterproof would be killer as well, again, not a deal breaker. When I search leaked features on the web, it seems as though return of sd card is a done deal, though I cannot find an original source. Anyone know if this is true? Fingers crossed...
I've seen many rumors about SD, but there's a good chance we won't know until the official announcement. I can grudgingly accept the battery situation, but unless they offer a 256GB variant, lacking SD will be a deal killer for me.
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
More excited about waterproofing coming back, micro sd is icing on the cake. Reason I didn't give up my S5, one its rooted and running custom rom and runs smooth and slick, but loved the water resistance, even taken vids and pics underwater and they actually come out real nice lol.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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There is not even a remote chance of that happening.
It's almost certain according to leaks that Edge will have 3600mAh, regular S7 will have 3000mAh.
Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
I think SD card expansion option really needs to be considered. Modular design is way to go.
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Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
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Batterylife on Edge will be better in standby, simply because of larger batteries. But in benchmark tests which only checks on-screen time, they will be neck-in-neck.
Batterylife (if everything else remains equal) is dependent surface area of display.
Area ratio = (5.5/5.1)^2 = 1.16
Battery ratio = 3600/3000 = 1.20
Edge version will give you better standby, in actual usage, on-screen batterylife will be almost same.
All variants of the device are said to come housed in a black frame, with a choice of black, white, silver or gold finishings, and the disagreeable camera bump is apparently now gone from the rear of the device.
On the subject of the camera, the sources both confirmed that Samsung has dropped the megapixel count from 16 to 12, and the f-stop is now a very appealing 1.7. Samsung plans to market the camera as being extremely adept at taking night shots, thanks to the lower aperture number, increased sensor size and dual-photodiode technology, which you can read more about in the camera section at the bottom of the page.
The pair of sources also confirmed that the S7 will be dust and waterproof, will house a hybrid dual SIM slot, returning support for microSD cards, up to 200 GB, and will have an increased battery capacity – all things that had previously been rumored.
The size, resolution and a number of other S7 specs were confirmed through another leak coming via. The leak comes in the form of a photo of a presentation slide, showing the S7 as part of the evolution of the S series.
On the slide, the device is given a 5.1-inch screen with 1,440p resolution, a 12 MP BRITECELL camera, 4 GB RAM and the Snapdragon 820 or Exynos 8890 processor. None of this is new or surprising, but it does begin to set long-running rumors in stone.
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I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
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It's not a rumor. It's 100% true. I got to play with one for a few minutes this week. It's a slick little device, a noted evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, improvement over the S6.
guilherme2707 said:
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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What rumor of a 4500mAh battery? I have never once heard that, and there's no way in hell they'd almost double the battery size.
Its 3500 on S7 Edge version, 3000 on S7