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I laugh at people who aren't getting this phone because of non-removable battery.

Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!

I will buy the 64gb version. Even that won't be sufficient storage for me. Not even close. Yes I have a monster music collection, even at 256kbps it's well over 100GB.
I can live without the battery, but there is no reason not to have an SD slot.

XmDXtReMeK said:
Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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You sir sound like a reasonable person. But everyone has there own reasoning , let them be stupid. I couldn't care less it just means more ones to go around
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I laugh at people who aren't getting this phone because of non-removable battery
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They aren't laughing at you: they feel.nothing but pity.

Shasarak said:
They aren't laughing at you: they feel.nothing but pity.
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My fellow troll, First off you should speak for yourself. Secondly I pity you for buying the phone even though you are troubled about the non-removable battery, also pretty laughable tho. At least I don't give a flying f about the battery.
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Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: my shiny new HTC One should be arriving tomorrow. Thanks to HTC's idiotic decision not to supply either a removable battery or a memory card slot, I am going to need both some form of external storage that the phone can access - perhaps a flash drive accessed via OTG, but I'm open to other suggestions - and an external battery/charger of some kind; and (which may be the tricky part) it has to be possible to access both of these things simultaneously.
With regards to power, capacity is clearly important (i.e. the number of mAh held) but it does also need to be reasonably portable - not something that weighs over a pound! - and, if at all possible, it should be something that can be charged or replenished very quickly. Ideally it should be able to charge the phone's internal battery as fast as a mains charger can.
For storage, I need a decent amount - 32GB is the absolute minimum, but 64GB or more would be better. It would also be helpful to have something not too big and heavy (I'll be carrying it around at all times). And, if possible, it should also be fast - especially when transferring files from a PC.
I may be acquiring a case at some point as well - not sure about that yet.
Advice, please!
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XmDXtReMeK said:
Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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I hear you cause i never replace tha battery of a phone myself but some people do. Some people carry an extra battery to swap out real quick and keep doing their thing, it depends on how you use your phone. But having a removable battery is always better than non removable.

barondebxl said:
I hear you cause i never replace tha battery of a phone myself but some people do. Some people carry an extra battery to swap out real quick and keep doing their thing, it depends on how you use your phone. But having a removable battery is always better than non removable.
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I guess that makes sense... I guess the average user does not carry multiple batteries with them but you make a valid point.:good:

I prefer the aesthetics of the One over the choice to have a removable battery. Only times I had to take the battery out of my S3 was to restart the phone.
I haven't missed it at all on my N4.

darrenjdoc said:
I prefer the aesthetics of the One over the choice to have a removable battery. Only times I had to take the battery out of my S3 was to restart the phone.
I haven't missed it at all on my N4.
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HTC is stingy with their battery size. They make a phone with a killer design and give it an mediocre battery size ( the HTC One has an acceptable battery size, the One X and droid buterfly/DNA is totally unacceptable).

unfortunately, i completely disagree with you.. the ability to remove the battery and replace it is a incredible convenience. i have 3 batteries that i use even though i dont use it every day...
1. i never have to plug my phone into an outlet.. i can carry my phone with me even if i walk around the house.. once my battery is low i switch it out and replace the other battery and have my other battery charging on a separate battery charger.
2. after using my phone all day i can come home and switch my battery and go out again without having to wait for my battery to charge, charging while i drive doesnt give me enough power when i go out..
3. i never have to worry about my battery level, i dont have to pace myself when i use my phone.. i use it freely.. unlike some users that turn off their 3G, wifi.. to conserve battery
4. it's especially great when i go on vacation, since i use my phone for navigation, surf the web, yelp, etc. my phone is on heavy usage, but i don't have to worry since i have 3 batteries..
You might not appreciate it but one of the great things about Android is users have a choice of what they need, and having the ability to replace my battery is always a plus.
having said that i am still getting the one because i love the built, not having a removable battery is just a trade off i will have to live with.. and hopefully i wont regret it..

XmDXtReMeK said:
My fellow troll, First off you should speak for yourself. Secondly I pity you for buying the phone even though you are troubled about the non-removable battery, also pretty laughable tho. At least I don't give a flying f about the battery.
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Buying a smartphone invariably involves compromises. There's a lot that (from my perspective) is wrong with the One - the screen is much too small, the lack of storage, the fixed battery; there's also a lot that's right - a non-OLED display, good-quality built-in speakers, good performance, and a camera that doesn't pander only to marketing numbers. Right now it's the best compromise available.
The problems with your initial post are that it betrays a woeful lack of imagination, and a woeful level of arrogance. You are unable to understand why other people's requirements might be different from your own, and unable to accept that their opinions may actually be just as valid as yours, despite being different. I would have been happier with more storage (if the 64GB version were actually available in Britain, that would be a good start), and with a removable battery; but, unlike you, I am able to understand why other people might not have the same requirements that I have (for example, because they don't watch downloaded hi-def video on their phones to the extent that I'm likely to) and it would never occur to me to ridicule someone merely because they have different priorities.

Those who says that he needs removable battery are psycho idiots.
Try not to depend on your mobile phone, try to have normal life then just typing.
When my battery is low, im happy, leave him on bad, and go out work something, or make dinner.
Why the **** do you bring phone in kitchen or when you go to coffe with friends?
Its a sick man, better try to find medical help.
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1: external battery cases
2: stronger, nicer designs
3: battery life times are longer than ever and I'm more likely to upgrade than need to replace an unhealthy battery.
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XmDXtReMeK said:
Seriously... when was the last time you replaced a phone battery? I've owned multiple phones from Iphone 4(had it for less than 2 weeks and passed it off to my mom)/Samsungs G1 G2 and Focus/Nokia L920 not ONCE I ran into battery issues. All these flagship phones are going to be obsolete by next year I PROMISE you... with google glass and all the crazy tech thats coming out... next years tech will dwarf this years... You will never even get the chance to have a failing battery because lets be honest here you will get rid of your phone for the next best thing next year. HTC One is a beautiful phone and I can't wait to buy it. Complaining about SDCARD? lol I had the Lumia920 with all my music loaded(32gb version) and took a **** ton of photos and videos and I still had a lot of space left... buy the damn 64GB version if you are so concerned about space. Im saving money and buying the 32GB because realistically 32gb is enough for me and yes I will upgrade my phone next year because I am a phone enthusiast. I sold my L920 on craigslist(just like every other phone Ive owned) for 50$ less than market price and now I am waiting to buy the HTC One with the cash... I am pumped for the ONE can't wait till Rogers starts shipping them in Canada!
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Dude, I replaced my phone battery twice because it bloated.
As much I prefer removable batteries, I see its probably near impossible to provide a practical unibody chassis with a removable battery.

You clearly do not to swap your battery out, there are people who do and so this isn't the phone for them......... quite simple really, get over it, the world doesn't revolve around you.

Removable battery or lack there of is slightly annoying but to be honest you get a 2 year warranty so if it does fail you can get it replaced easily enough. Yes it's not as convenient as if you could swap it our yourself or even get an uprated Mugen battery for longer life but c'est la vie, the One is still more than good enough with a non-removable.....
Also on storage....There are surely very few people who will honestly use more than 64gig, and if you do happen to need more than this on your phone then honestly you need to invest in a laptop/PC and an external hard-drive or if you just want it for music, buy an MP3 player with a card slot......this should do it http://www.amazon.co.uk/micro-card-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363338492&sr=1-1

If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.

Dharkan said:
If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.
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Dharkan said:
If you want to carry 100 gigs of music archive (which, sorry but doesn't make sense), get yourself an old school fat ipod.
Seriously you don't even listen half of those music for like months. and you know that too. It is just silly reasoning.
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My thoughts exactly, having thousands of songs loaded on your phone is stupid... you only listen to a few!

I will laugh at OP when a storm strikes his residence and no electricity for a few days. Then you will remember this stupid thread. That happened with me some weeks ago and if not for my beloved HD2, I would be screwed. It was a once in a lifetime thing, but it happened. Removable battery and sd slot are important features, that matter for many users, for various reasons. I don"t care about IR remote control, but if it is important for some users, I don"t ***** about it.
Samsung IV is an ugly piece of plastic with an ugly UI, but they"re doing it right with the aforementioned features because Samsung knows that many android users aren"t yet isheeps, ie, users that turn a bad thing into a glorious invention.
Android filesystem limitations make sd slot important and an external battery is not as handy as a removable one. A phone can be slim and have this features. Htc and Asus are just trying to save / make more money.

[Q]Pros & Cons of M ? I wanna Buy !

guys,i just wanna buy this mobile ! as you guys are using this,i wanna ask you guys only(not any site's bull****s )..
plz help me out...what are the pros and cons of motorola droid razr m ?

Ive had mine for about 5 days so ill give you mine so far.
Pros:
1)One of the best if not the best form factor for a phone with this kind of screen.
2)Audio is excellent. If you play music with your phone, youll love it.
3)Quite a good looker.
4)Quite snappy.
Cons:
1)Camera is very average. Can be improved with settings but who wants to change those everytime for a simple picture.
2)Support is very bad atm. There are barely any roms for it and bootloader is still locked so any major support wont come for a while.
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
4)Internal memory is low (8GB) and to make it worse, its troublesome to move big programs to the sd card since its not officially supported.
5) This is a big one, since Jelly Bean there is no USB Mass storage. I suggest you read on this is you need direct access to your memory cards.
Lasltly id say the screen is outdated BUT it makes up for it with its punchy contrast levels. Its also very readable in the sun so its so-so.

b0uncyfr0 said:
Ive had mine for about 5 days so ill give you mine so far.
Pros:
1)One of the best if not the best form factor for a phone with this kind of screen.
2)Audio is excellent. If you play music with your phone, youll love it.
3)Quite a good looker.
4)Quite snappy.
Cons:
1)Camera is very average. Can be improved with settings but who wants to change those everytime for a simple picture.
2)Support is very bad atm. There are barely any roms for it and bootloader is still locked so any major support wont come for a while.
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
4)Internal memory is low (8GB) and to make it worse, its troublesome to move big programs to the sd card since its not officially supported.
5) This is a big one, since Jelly Bean there is no USB Mass storage. I suggest you read on this is you need direct access to your memory cards.
Lasltly id say the screen is outdated BUT it makes up for it with its punchy contrast levels. Its also very readable in the sun so its so-so.
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a lot of this is going to depend on what device you are coming from.
but, i really enjoy this phone a lot. i believe that software is going to be the same as with any other device with JB on it, so that becomes a wash. the camera is actually quite nice when you set it to HDR, otherwise, below average at best. it's not too expensive, just $50 from VZW (or you can buy off-contract for about $250).
you can insert your own memory card - so that helps with storage issues; but the battery is not removable.
but I recommend it if you want a smaller device that fits easily in your pocket.
the best feature of all (in my opinion) is the battery life. most folks can get a least 24 hours in between charges.

So I've only had this device a few days, but so far I like it a lot.
I came from the DNA, which I only could take for about 2 weeks. It's just too damn big. I'm not a small guy, but a NBA player or someone with similarly large hands is what the DNA is made for.
Prior to the DNA I had the Incredible 4G. Very similar form factor and while it technically has a smaller screen, I would say the screen on the Inc4 is much better. But the Razr M seems to be just fine for me. I'm not glued to the screen watching movies.
The battery life so far seems better than the Inc4. I can't say for sure as I'm still trying to decide which ROM is going to be my daily driver (Currently on Eclipse with Apex and I'm really liking it.)

Razr M is Epic!
This phone does not get nearly enough credit!
I have had it for about 2 months now, and the battery life is great if you use it for just talk and text, I can get a full day of moderate browsing on and off of wifi (I am a student and a university). I get up at 8 and don't plug it in to 10pm, and it has about 35%. This is with the stock JB that comes with it. Despite the low resolution of the screen It looks just as crisp as my friends SG3. I will say that for what I use it for HD screens are pointless.
The phone fits perfect in my hand, and i would guess that my hands are a little smaller than average. Development is growing steadily for the phone, I have been running the Eclipse rom on it for a few weeks now Via safestrap, but I just installed it to the stock slot today, so there is potential for more.
I love the design of the phone as well, very small bezel on the side. The soft buttons on the screen, that change depending on usage are great. All in all the phone has a great form factor.

I agree this phone deserves more credit. It has just as much power under the hood as the sgs3 except for 1gb less ram. Draw back is as someone already stated is the internal memory is smaller but the battery life kicks the S3 s ass.
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Cons:
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
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I'm not sure what you paid for your phone or where you got it, but this might be the last phone on earth I'd call "expensive". While I agree on some of your other assessments, the phone is awesome for it's price.
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Jersey846 said:
I'm not sure what you paid for your phone or where you got it, but this might be the last phone on earth I'd call "expensive". While I agree on some of your other assessments, the phone is awesome for it's price.
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Well i dont know where you got yours either but i can gurantee you for its price, its features are very sub-par. I paid $430 for mine on ebay (XT907) and that was cheap. Locally most telco's here have the XT905 close to $500 outright.
Compare the XT905/907 to the Xperia TX. The TX has a bigger and higher resolution screen, Better camera with the same dual core krait architecture. You can get it for $380. And to make it worse, the TX was released AFTER the Droid M/M.
For its feature set, this phone should be well below $350, i dont know how or why Motorola came up with such prices. Probably because of the form factor. Some people dont mind that, myself included but I KNOW alot of people put off by the pricing of this phone.

$99 (upgrade) w/2 year extension. It's "free" now on Verizon's site with a 2 year contract. I'm sure you have your reasons why you paid as much as you did, but I only upgrade when I have one available through Verizon. I'm cheap like that. At the time, a Razr Maxx was priced at $399 (w/contract). $99 as opposed to $399 is considerably less expensive. They aren't marketing this phone as if it's Motorola's flagship device. I knew the specs, and for what I need it has served me incredibly well.
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slogar25 said:
I agree this phone deserves more credit. It has just as much power under the hood as the sgs3 except for 1gb less ram. Draw back is as someone already stated is the internal memory is smaller but the battery life kicks the S3 s ass.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! I miss the resolution on the gs3 but that's about it. 32GB card in this phone makes the measly internal storage a non-issue.
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How bout you tell us why you are GOING to buy the s6/edge..

I'm going to buy the edge because it looks bad ass! they got rid of the removable battery, guess I'll get a battery pack if the fast charging doesn't make up for it.. they got rid of the ext sd slot, guess I'll use dropbox or transfer files to my computer that take up to much space.
I'm personally moving from my htc m8.. I'm ready for something new. I love that samsung is pushing the tech with the curved screen. Sucks that it is more expensive but oh well.. Price to pay for new technology. I can't build my own phone.. Ha ha
Let's hear why you all will buy the s6/s6 edge

Because it is the "next" big thing
I'll be buying the Edge because it is finally time to replace my Galaxy Nexus. The Edge looks amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on those curves.

das boot said:
I'll be buying the Edge because it is finally time to replace my Galaxy Nexus. The Edge looks amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on those curves.
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And I can't wait to see you cracking your edge.

I need the S6 Edge to go with 65" curve UHD TV........

I'm getting m9. I won't be getting s6 cos of ui, hardware design thats it really.
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I'm thrilled with the new fingerprint scanner. If it's as accurate as Apple, that's a major improvement over the old swipe scanner.
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I'll be getting the Edge because it has no SD card and no removable battery. Glad they got rid of those.

I'll just get the normal S6, unless I can get my hand on the edge before the release and test it out. Just think it's moreof a gimmick, and nothing that I'll really use.
Only thing that I dislike is not having the removable battery and SD card....but I guess that I'll get used to it.

I see no reasons why not to get it! Yes, you can claim that not having an sd card slot its a big deal, but no for me. I dont keep all my life on my cell phone, thats juts dangerous. If anything is taking space on my phone, I move it to my computer and problem fixed. Love the Edge, and will be getting it for sure, I just hope that they are distributed in sufficient numbers.

if you need more than 128 gb on your phone it might be time to get help for social media addiction

Seriously, I don't see how this is that upsetting to some people. There is a MASSIVE trend right now indicating a shift to cloud-based storage. About five years ago, music was either physically on your phone or on an mp3 player, photos were internal storage and then later copied to a pc, Microsoft and Google now allow files to be edited and stored within the cloud when they couldn't even be viewed on most phones 5 years ago, and we have Google drive/drop box for the myriad of items in between.
It is getting harder and harder to justify having gobs of physical storage on hand.
The S6 and S6 Edge are absolutely gorgeous, in nearly every color. Fast charging and using 14nm and ddr4 ram will greatly reduce the need for a removable battery.
I'll admit, it sucks that samsung has moved to the model of not having an external storage option or a removable battery. What has happened (and trust me, they've researched this more than any of us combined) is that they've realized we don't actually need those things.
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Not sure if I'm getting the regular or edge yet. Why would anyone not get this phone? Best display, best cpu, best gpu, fastest NAND. Wolfson DAC for top of the line audio processing. Camera the only thing I'm disappointed on so far. From what I've seen the Note 4 is better. Needs some tweaks. Oh and the phone itself looks nice in design which is the most shocking. SD cards and removable batteries are for 16 year olds that play games nonstop and neckbeard wannabe programming otakus. There is plenty of Chinese phones for you nerds to buy while Samsung is enjoying record breaking sales.

phobia09 said:
Seriously, I don't see how this is that upsetting to some people. There is a MASSIVE trend right now indicating a shift to cloud-based storage. About five years ago, music was either physically on your phone or on an mp3 player, photos were internal storage and then later copied to a pc, Microsoft and Google now allow files to be edited and stored within the cloud when they couldn't even be viewed on most phones 5 years ago, and we have Google drive/drop box for the myriad of items in between.
It is getting harder and harder to justify having gobs of physical storage on hand.
The S6 and S6 Edge are absolutely gorgeous, in nearly every color. Fast charging and using 14nm and ddr4 ram will greatly reduce the need for a removable battery.
I'll admit, it sucks that samsung has moved to the model of not having an external storage option or a removable battery. What has happened (and trust me, they've researched this more than any of us combined) is that they've realized we don't actually need those things.
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You know why cloud storage doesn't make sense for me? Music. I have about 300gb of it. Music is why I cherish having SD. Its normal for me to download a few albums on any given day and want to listen to them. For me, that means not waiting hours for it to upload tom the cloud. Also, I have a somewhat stingy data plan and would tear through my 3gb month cap in a week of streaming from the cloud. What if I'm at a friends house and on a whim decide I want his DVD rips of some thing or another? No way in hell I'm waiting hours for it to transfer, may as well download it myself.
Also, not having an SD slot sort of bullies me into buying a higher capacity device when I would normally go for the lowest tier and just boost its storage with an SD. Its unfortunate that storage prices don't scale the same way they do on SD cards as they do on an actual phone model...
All that said? I still may end up with an Edge, because that **** is cool as hell looking.
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No, I will not be herded into cloud Storage, no I won't pay a yearly fee.
Still, the Galaxy S6 Edge is the real deal. I think they'll give us back the sdCard next year
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blownupp said:
You know why cloud storage doesn't make sense for me? Music. I have about 300gb of it. Music is why I cherish having SD. Its normal for me to download a few albums on any given day and want to listen to them. For me, that means not waiting hours for it to upload tom the cloud. Also, I have a somewhat stingy data plan and would tear through my 3gb month cap in a week of streaming from the cloud. What if I'm at a friends house and on a whim decide I want his DVD rips of some thing or another? No way in hell I'm waiting hours for it to transfer, may as well download it myself.
Also, not having an SD slot sort of bullies me into buying a higher capacity device when I would normally go for the lowest tier and just boost its storage with an SD. Its unfortunate that storage prices don't scale the same way they do on SD cards as they do on an actual phone model...
All that said? I still may end up with an Edge, because that **** is cool as hell looking.
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300gb of music? That's wild, man, haha! I think it's safe to say samsung wasn't thinking of you when they designed this phone lol.
I see how being faced with these limitations sucks in your scenario. I don't know what I'd do if I had needs like yours. I've got less than 10gb of music and don't really watch movies or TV on my phone. So for me, as it will be for most users, a 32gb s6 is likely more than enough, though I'll probably get a 64gb to be safe.
One could argue apple has sort of taken the "bully" approach with having to choose a measly 16gb or go up to 64gb. At least samsung offers 32gb for its base model.
Best of luck, if you get the edge, I hope you enjoy it!
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Galaxy S6 Edge is my pick. I once confirm the battery life I will replace my LG G2. I like the cleaned UI and the curved screen.
After so many years of my experience with Symbian and Android I am now at a point where care about battery life, good screen colors, premium look and no lag UI. I don't like the idea of phone getting bigger and bigger beyond 5.5". I am really not so confident about LG G4 especially when they say the pixel count is more than 1440P which would result in bad battery and laggy UI just like in the G3.

kolembo said:
No, I will not be herded into cloud Storage, no I won't pay a yearly fee.
Still, the Galaxy S6 Edge is the real deal. I think they'll give us back the sdCard next year
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The phone comes with 115 GB OneDrive free storage

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The phone comes with 115 GB OneDrive free storage
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Cloud isn't the future. Especially outside big, developed markets. Here, 3g has good coverage but the speed sucks, in crowded areas it's even worse. I'll never trust the cloud for privacy, we all know the governments are spying on us, I don't want then spying my files too.
But still, I may get a GS6, because the rumors say the Edge is going to be insanely expensive here.

dandroid13 said:
Cloud isn't the future. Especially outside big, developed markets. Here, 3g has good coverage but the speed sucks, in crowded areas it's even worse. I'll never trust the cloud for privacy, we all know the governments are spying on us, I don't want then spying my files too.
But still, I may get a GS6, because the rumors say the Edge is going to be insanely expensive here.
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The second the file is on ur phone the government knows about it, it doesn't have to be in the cloud

Nexus 5X specs, underwhelmed

I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.

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I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it

The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.

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cabadam said:
I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
I'm really just going to watch many videos and full reviews of the 5X when the time comes; if I hear great things about it I might consider. Like someone said, I agree with Nexus 5 (2013) phones working great and buttery smooth even til now, so why wouldn't the new one?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it
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I'll take a look at the Z5, that wasn't on my radar. Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, a couple people at work here are telling me that it is just a matter of getting used to the larger phone, that once I do I won't care anymore. I'm skeptical lol...
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The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.
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Yeah, I've definitely heard how well the 2013 Nexus 5 kept up - and I guess that's what I was hoping for in the new phone, but it seems the specs are more oriented to "today", not "tomorrow". I think the processsor is fine, RAM I can live with, but that darn 32GB storage. Yikes.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
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This is the EXACT situation I find myself in on my Galaxy S4. Fortunately because of my SD card, that isn't an issue. Given that the Nexus doesn't offer that, it just seems like the 32GB will fill up very fast. I don't want to move to my new phone and then be fighting storage problems all over again in 6-12 months. Apps, etc are only getting larger and fancier as time goes on.

cant have everything at this price point

jadeddjay said:
cant have everything at this price point
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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.

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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.
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well i dont think its that simple. adding one more option adds to the cost of manufacturing and logistics etc which changes their bottom line and marketing tactic or whatever.

I'm more let down by the ram than storage space... 2gb... really? I know my note 4 doesn't have that much more, but my previous phone had 2gb, and I was running low on memory at times.

5X is physically WAY bigger than the LG G2 and there is no wireless charging. 16GB storage with no microSD slot shouldn't exist. This thing is definitely a dud.

I ordered the 32GB version and was annoyed to have to pay $50 extra for it. The 2GB of RAM is beat.

Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS

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Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS
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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).

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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).
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I've personally never ran out of space on a 32gb phone but I can definitely see this as an issue for some. For instance those who nandroid alot and those who store their music locally on their phone. An OTG would be a solution but a hassle to have to constantly plug in when you want to use it.
Personally I'd rather buy an OTG for those cases for super cheap than spend an extra $100 for a higher capacity phone

I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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d3si said:
I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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An S810, 3GB of RAM, a top of the line camera, fingerprint sensor, and a full metal design for $499, you think that's overpriced? I'd have to disagree, as most if not all phones boasting the same specs are at least $150 more.
Now onto the 5x, yeah, max 32gb rom is a let down, but at the same time, you can work with it. If it doesn't work for you then this isn't the phone for you (why I ordered the 6p). The more important letdown was the 2gb of ram (the bigger reason for me getting the 6p).
There are plenty of people who cannot and will not fill up a 32gb phone, I see it everyday. Just gotta get the device that's right for you ?

I feel my Nexus 5 is still as fast as the best of them today... which just shows how much technology has plateaued. The 1080p display still wows me compared to other 2K phones, and the processor is still fast to me. I don't think I'm willing to give my storm trooper up just yet... maybe the S7 or Nexus 5X2 will have the 820, 1080p, 4 GB of RAM and an awesome camera for 2016 standards.

After having wireless charging for over 2 years, I've sworn to never buy a phone without it again.
It is a wireless phone!
The only time, and I mean the only time, I plug anything into my phone is when I'm flashing it.
Music? Bluetooth. (Or I use a FiiO)
Hands free? Bluetooth
Charging? The official nexus charger is on the side of my nightstand so I can see the phone if it goes off in the middle of the night, and the standard LG WCP-300 elsewhere.
Synchronizing data? Wifi. This happens automatically every night when I'm at home with the "syncme" app
I mean sheeet...I am quite aware the new usb-c is more rugged than micro-usb is, and less annoying since it plugs in every way...but once you charge your phone by just literally setting it down...you're so glad to never have to fish for that stupid cord again.
I even borrowed a router (the woodworking kind) and made a hole in my desk for the LG charger...it sits flush on my desk now and it's like it is never there.
Screw cords. It's 2015.
If a home cordless phone that I buy for $30 or even less can charge without fishing around for a stupid cable to plug in, than DAMMIT, my $400+ cell phone should be able to as well!

Why sit around and cry about the ram and storage? If it isn't for you, get something that is for you, end of story. 32GB of ram is much more than I'd need, I keep all my music downloaded on my tablet, and never play games or do any heavy duty tasks on my phone so the 5X would work just great for me. Everything is made to fit the needs of some people, not all people.

To the guys that say 2GB RAM is not enough. Are you all talking about for heavy multitasking, gaming or general use? Genuinely curious about the need for >2GB RAM on a phone.

32 gb vs 64 gb vs 128 gb

Nexus 6P is $50 off with Free overnight shipping until December 22 listed, I've never owned a smartphone that didn't have expandable storage (EVO 4G, Samsung Note2, Note4, Moto X Pure is my first without removable battery yet still enjoy the sdcard option) but have also tried USB OTG which is seems easy enough for transfers-expansion but wondering what size Nexus 6P people bought here & if they still think they made the right selection?
If N6P came with a replaceable battery, OIS for video recording, I'd get the 64 or 128 GB model but I'm still considering the 32 GB model because it'll likely be supplanted within 12 months but would appreciate some feedback from actual owners especially those who could comment on 4K video size & video recording size implications on this device..
Thanks!

i think 64 may be the sweet spot in terms of value. 32 is definitely too small for me. I've always filled up 32 gb too quick, especially on a nexus with nandroid backups and titanium backups. I got the 128gb and I'm very happy with that size. To me when i'm already spending so much, $100 more or less doesn't really make or break it and i'll probably keep the device close to 2 years. Yes, it may be suplanted in 12 months, but the nexus that supplants it will also lack removable storage and removeable battery.

Thanks, not sure why this thread is not visible in the XDA app without viewing in browser..I'll probably order the 64GB especially now that it's the same price the 32GB was a couple days ago..if for some reason I'm disappointed with the Nexus 6P I could return it but I hope it exceeds my somewhat skeptical expectations..

I went the 128gb route this time. I probably could have been ok with 64, but decided that it wasn't all that much more to get the most I could. I did this just to make sure i had enough room down the road. I would avoid the 32gb version as I have mine just about to that point and i don't really think I am that big of a data user, just seems to add up fast

32gb is fine for me, I have many apps and games on my phone and am only using 5gb, plenty of room for pictures and video if need be.

So completely user dependent. The N5 is still a completely viable phone, and it maxed out at 32GB.
I went with the 64GB because it was the value sweetspot to me, and since I have a child I plan to save a few movies for those waiting rooms and such instead of needing to stream them.
The one thing I will mention, if you really think you'll replace it in a year, you'll likely have an easier time selling the 64/128 configurations.

How much of the 32GB is user accessible?
Not too worried about photos as much as 4K video & slow mo video space demands.. I assume could be offloaded via USB OTG but that might get annoying..good to hear some are satisfied with 32GB however.

64GB should have better futureproof resale value than 32GB but I've never actually sold an old device rather keep them around as backups but they are starting to pile up I read a recent article that factory resets don't really delete data on Android but isn't everything encrypted by default now without a significant performance hit..?

I've had the Samsung S4 with 16 GB which I always thought was not enough, however I've always had a fast MicroSD card wiht 64GB which I stored all of my photos, music and videos on. This was plenty and so when I found a deal on the Nexus 6P for 450, I jumped on it. It was brand new and unlocked with two cases. I have had 20 GB of music typically, a lot of photos, and a few videos, 2 Nandroid backups and backups for apps for quick installs. When I went with the Nexus, after a couple of problematic flashes, which makes me love the external SD, because I never erased it by accident and makes it easy for re-flashing, I found that I will not be storing photos on it as I just backup to Google photos.

have you seen this review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review
it lays out the good with the bad. my biggest concerns were it being too big and the battery, and it hasn't been bad in either area.

One thing you can ask yourself is what are you storing on your current phone with the SD card? Do you still want to be able to carry that data around with you? Are you using it?
I went with the 64GB after considering those points. I had a G3 with a 64GB SD card loaded with movies and music... but the reality, I didn't really need/use it. I think I was doing it because I could. That's just me though. Some people do want to carry around their whole music catalogue.
Same goes for filming video - ask yourself how much you are doing now? It's probably a strong indicator of your future use.
(FWIW - I agree that when it comes to resale, the 64GB model probably marks the sweet spot)

Thanks I'll read through any review that actual owners think is fair..

I have 128 GB cards nearly full of videos but like you I don't really need all of them rather was doing it because I could & still could on the Nexus 6P I assume with USB OTG.. music library is uploaded to Google Music but are there cloud services that can stream HD videos as well as local-probably none that I'd entirely trust-there are even photos that I'd rather not trust in the cloud?
I should mention that I've considered Nexus handsets in the past but they always lost to the competition in side by side comparisons starting from the Evo 4G to Note 2 to Note 4 last year which beat the Nexus 6 in side by side comparisons. On paper the Nexus 6P looks interesting but I haven't been able to run side by side comparisons yet (coming to Best Buy soon apparently).. Note 5 having lost its removable battery & storage no longer trumps more versatile unlocked devices like the Moto X Pure which I own & prefer especially with its rich front facing stereo speakers but since I want longer battery, fingerprint sensor & latest updates to a bright screen (though not as bright as MXP I've read) with front facing stereo speakers (which I'm told are louder but not as rich as MXP), I think this year is time to give Nexus handsets another try..if the 64GB aluminum is still available at $499+tax tomorrow Noon I'll probably pull the proverbial trigger unless this thread directs elsewhere..

The only reservation I have about the 128GB memory is its effect on battery life. Does anyone know a formula to compute the effect of greater memory on battery life?

I got the 32GB version in graphite grey because this was the only one I could obtain from Vodafone. Well, I would have loved the 64GB version too but worst case I could use a USB Type C stick for extra storage with some movies on it.

Thanks everyone so I ordered the 64GB Aluminum today (with expected overnight delivery by Monday or Tuesday) which including $36.80 in sales tax was $535.80..hope I like it more than http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review seems to..
I'll have to check out sRGB mode because I'm not a fan of oversaturated AMOLED cartoony artificial looking colors but it never stopped me completely from buying Samsung Note 2 & 4 (still in Adapative display but switch modes on occasion) but do enjoy the natural non-saturated colors of MXP including clean LCD whites (even went away from default Vibrant mode to Normal Mode in its screen mode):
"I'd like to mention that I tested both the device's default colour calibration as well as its sRGB calibration. This setting is rather hidden for the average user: You have to enable the developer options menu by tapping repeatedly on the "Build Number" found in Settings => About Phone, after which the menu will appear under the global settings menu. It's a pity that Google didn't make this option more accessible via the general display settings, but it will be required to access if you care about accurate colour reproduction on the Nexus 6P."
"With Snapdragon 820 phones coming in just a few months there’s also the viable option to hold out for better alternatives as we're on the verge of a large generational jump that will undoubtedly bring a lot of improvements to the table."
Am I going to regret the Nexus 6P when Snapdragon 820 phones come soon?