Overwrite or new install - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I'm loving the CM10 unofficial (SD version by LNE) and see there are various test versions... I've gone with the latest (1.0) and followed all the memory tips, tweaks and SDcard error stuff.... and it's working great - better than the CM7 I have been running...
Question is - when the next version comes out - can I overwrite the files, or do I have to do a totally new install?
Thanks
Chris

That depends on the developer. When he makes major changes he'll probably ask for clean install, whereas when they are just some minor fixes or changes, you probably won't need a fresh install, an overwrite would do.

cjbcjbchris said:
I'm loving the CM10 unofficial (SD version by LNE) and see there are various test versions... I've gone with the latest (1.0) and followed all the memory tips, tweaks and SDcard error stuff.... and it's working great - better than the CM7 I have been running...
Question is - when the next version comes out - can I overwrite the files, or do I have to do a totally new install?
Thanks
Chris
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Yep, what Marvlesz said. If the dev says fresh install, then do that. If not, then just keep the old data.img and you should be good.

Nigeldg said:
Yep, what Marvlesz said. If the dev says fresh install, then do that. If not, then just keep the old data.img and you should be good.
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Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.

cjbcjbchris said:
Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.
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Yes, Data.img should keep your applications as well as other settings or info.

Just realised, when I copy my SD card to computer there is no data.img file....
How do I create it?
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cjbcjbchris said:
Just realised, when I copy my SD card to computer there is no data.img file....
How do I create it?
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda app-developers app
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It should already be there, in the Android folder. If you have SD Android and 3rd party apps then there has to be a data.img.
cjbcjbchris said:
Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.
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Personally I think those instructions are stupid. I've never had an issue just copying over the old data.img and booting first time around.

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[Q] Keeping Android Apps

My HD2 isn't very stable running Android at the moment, and want to start again with a different ROM and android build.
If i were to format my SD card, how would i keep the apps i currently have? I see separate folders for some of the apps iv downloaded, do i just back all them up to my laptop?
and would anyone be able to suggest a stable ROM that will work with a Desire build with sense. Thanks.
Back them up with astro! They are put in backups folder ont he SD. Pull them off and put them back, then astro again, reinstall in the backup options, astro astro astro
i copy the data.img to my pc. if i test a new build, i just copy this file over after copying the build. this way, i keep all my apps and settings.
but some people are warning this method might currupt the build! until now it worked fine for me, but others reported currupt builds. so you have to try out for yourself if it works for you
hebbe said:
i copy the data.img to my pc. if i test a new build, i just copy this file over after copying the build. this way, i keep all my apps and settings.
but some people are warning this method might currupt the build! until now it worked fine for me, but others reported currupt builds. so you have to try out for yourself if it works for you
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hanging on to the data image only works if the file system is the same.
I run two versions of shubcraft 1.5 and sync data across each other.
I couldnt use my data.img from 1.4c due to a file structure change.
If you just want to keep the apps and not have to run back to the market you can Adb pull them and store them on your computer.

[Q] Quick way to switch or change android builds?

Hi Therese! Is there a quick and safe way to change to a different android build without having to reinstall everything? Want to try a different one with the same apps and settings I already configured.
Thanks in advance!
NessD
You can rename your current android folder and then install a new one. I don't know about maintaining all your pages and settings. But the problem that you run into while installing multiple versions of android is that they may become corrupt and then you start getting SOD's and other errors.
(On a side note: Its been speculated that you can run scan disks on your sd card when it becomes corrupt. But this didn't fix my problem. SOOO, frustrated, I reformatted the SD card and started over. I've settled on Mattc's 1.7.)
I have tried a number of builds and Titanium backup/restore has always worked.
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pa49 said:
I have tried a number of builds and Titanium backup/restore has always worked.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Will try that on the next run...so, what builds did work the best for you? More specifically: what gave you the best battery usage? Which roms did you use?
Desire based 2.2. Only minor glitches. All hardware functioning and battery indicator accurate. Two phones on one!
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Could also grab a few cheap smaller SD cards & switch em out as needed, lesser card writes and should help with corruption, etc...
I was just about to ask this question, good news i guess. ive pretty much settled on froyosense 2.2 while i wait to see if we can get closer to a flashable rom (had it with winmob post using android for a month).
I just boot the phone into WinMo. Connect to computer. Copy all the folders that relate to Android. Then delete them from the SD card. Copy over the build I want to test and boot it up.
If I don't want to keep the new build, back to WinMo and computer. Then delete new build folders. Copy old folders back into place. Boot up again. As far as the old build is concerned, it was never removed.
FreakyFerret said:
I just boot the phone into WinMo. Connect to computer. Copy all the folders that relate to Android. Then delete them from the SD card. Copy over the build I want to test and boot it up.
If I don't want to keep the new build, back to WinMo and computer. Then delete new build folders. Copy old folders back into place. Boot up again. As far as the old build is concerned, it was never removed.
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Yeah, that's what I did now. I think, I found my favorite build. At least battery seems to be ok at the moment.
FreakyFerret said:
I just boot the phone into WinMo. Connect to computer. Copy all the folders that relate to Android. Then delete them from the SD card. Copy over the build I want to test and boot it up.
If I don't want to keep the new build, back to WinMo and computer. Then delete new build folders. Copy old folders back into place. Boot up again. As far as the old build is concerned, it was never removed.
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Hey all
I am sorry for sounding like a noob but do I delete "everything" off of the SD card and replace with other build or do I have to leave some files on for it to work right?
Or if it is of the same base build you can just copy your data.img.

[Q] 3 questions, data.img swap? What if it goes wrong? More the 1gb?

I am currently running MDJ FroYo HD rom on my HD2.
This rom get's updated quite a lot.
-I would like to know if I can just save the data.img from my old rom, update the rom, and just use the old data.img?
I know there are already treads about this, I searched. Some people say no, some say yes.
-I would also like to know what would happen if it doesn't go right?
-And third, is there a way to increase the 1gb data.img to way more, like 8?
Thanks everybody who will help!
Nobody knows?
Delano.888 said:
Nobody knows?
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hey
you can use the same data img if its just an update to the same build e.g. 4.3 > 4.4, ive also used the same data img in a completely diff' build but did get a few fc's in certain apps (tho clearing cache will help with that)
as for an 8gb data img cant see the point as it will prob slow down boot time & you've got the sd card to store music, vids, maps...
but if you want to try & increase the size manually, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824154
or here for some ready made (up to 4gb):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
kam333 said:
hey
you can use the same data img if its just an update to the same build e.g. 4.3 > 4.4, ive also used the same data img in a completely diff' build but did get a few fc's in certain apps (tho clearing cache will help with that)
as for an 8gb data img cant see the point as it will prob slow down boot time & you've got the sd card to store music, vids, maps...
but if you want to try & increase the size manually, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824154
or here for some ready made (up to 4gb):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
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Hey.
Okay great that I can just keep the data.img so I don't have to re download all the apps.
I need more space for my apps, I download A LOT of apps and have the feeling the 1gb will will up soon.
Delano.888 said:
Hey.
Okay great that I can just keep the data.img so I don't have to re download all the apps.
I need more space for my apps, I download A LOT of apps and have the feeling the 1gb will will up soon.
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if your main concern is download apps again, you should use titanium backup, (apps+data setting) since there is always a risk of corrupting your data.img when using it in a new build.
like i said you can use your old .img, but personally use titanium with a fresh .img (should have made that clear) when changing builds.
all the best

Why we need to Format SD Card when installing a new android build

I found a similar thread but even that doesnt answer my question..
It has something to do with performance of Android?
Also, after installation (after format) can i copy all the files used by windows back on SD Card? or will it effect the performance ?
cadet018 said:
I found a similar thread but even that doesnt answer my question..
It has something to do with performance of Android?
Also, after installation (after format) can i copy all the files used by windows back on SD Card? or will it effect the performance ?
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You don't need to format your FAT32 partition between builds... At most you would need to delete the "Android" directory before installing a new SD build. For NAND builds, you need to format your /system/, /data/, /cache/, /boot/, before flashing a new build just to make sure that you're flashing on a clean system.
I always do clean install, makes for me any rom less buggy.
tri-polchika said:
I always do clean install, makes for me any rom less buggy.
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Thats what i heard.. but its increasingly painful to reinstall all apps again.. is there an easy way to transfer your install apps b/w 2 builds?
Copy data.img perhaps?
cadet018 said:
Thats what i heard.. but its increasingly painful to reinstall all apps again.. is there an easy way to transfer your install apps b/w 2 builds?
Copy data.img perhaps?
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do a full nandroid back upand then advanced restore and retore the things you want
you will get issues tho if you have moved from froyo to gingerbread and vice versa
Richy99 said:
do a full nandroid back upand then advanced restore and retore the things you want
you will get issues tho if you have moved from froyo to gingerbread and vice versa
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How to do it?? I m using SD version b/w

Question on Keeping Apps Plz!

i want to flash a later version of americanandroid to my sd card, i was wondering if and how i can keep all my apps i had on the older version, without messing anything up? thanks for help im a rookie.
_fly said:
i want to flash a later version of americanandroid to my sd card, i was wondering if and how i can keep all my apps i had on the older version, without messing anything up? thanks for help im a rookie.
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Get Titanium Backup, free version will do but Pro is much better as when you batch restore apps it will do it all silently instead of asking if you want to install each one. It will also backup/restore your app data.
If you constantly change roms its a must have app.
ty, when i go into titanium back up, it says sorry, i could not acquire root privledges,. this application will not work please verify that your rom is rooted and inclused busybox and try again, i dunno if my rom is rooted or what busybox is, whats this? and where do i keep titanium backup so when i change roms i can get the app and get all my apps back? ty so much.
there is a file data.img in the android file in your sd. copy it to a safe place. download the new americandroid.rar ,unrar it then copy the content of it to the android folder in your sd. clrcad.exe then haret.exe. the booting will take a long time. after the succesfull booting copy your old data.img to replace the new one in the sd.btw americandroid roms are rooted and your case is strange.
so i wont need the new data.img file when i replace it with my old one? or are all the data.img files the same? and whats rooted mean? ty so much for help, im catching on strong cause of you guys.
_fly said:
so i wont need the new data.img file when i replace it with my old one? or are all the data.img files the same? and whats rooted mean? ty so much for help, im catching on strong cause of you guys.
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rooted means, you have privilege that you can accept and deny that you cant normally, do. like you are the admin etc.
if you go down the route of using your old data.img save your mem card to the pc format the card put the new build on let it boot up and sort its self out turn phone off, then just replace ur data.img from your build you saved onto the mem card and everything will be there,
Titanium back up can save all your settings as well though. personally i use the free version it works well just the downside is you have to go through the process of clicking install on every app again but it works.

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