[Q] Expanding Nexus 7's internal app storage - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there, I recently preordered the 8GB nexus 7 that shipped out but id like to know if theres anyway to expand the restriction of space of apps google gives you I know ill have like 1.4GB for apps and the rest storage but since im going to be using 32GB flash drive through stickmount id rather expand my app storage limit to something like 2.5GB or so. Thanks

SunSDK said:
Hey there, I recently preordered the 8GB nexus 7 that shipped out but id like to know if theres anyway to expand the restriction of space of apps google gives you I know ill have like 1.4GB for apps and the rest storage but since im going to be using 32GB flash drive through stickmount id rather expand my app storage limit to something like 2.5GB or so. Thanks
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If it is like the 16gb then the internal storage and space for apps are not separate. They are combined on the N7.
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Since you bought the 8GB version you'll have between 5-6GB of storage space internal.
That storage space is for all of your applications and your /sdcard data. In android 3.0+ the /sdcard is emulated on the system so you have the full internal memory for apps and data.
there is NO WAY to increase the internal space for apps or appdata. It is impossible.
You can use USB OTG to hook up a flash drive or hard drive (requires root+stickmount) and have as much room as you want for your media or other data.
but app data and apps must be on the internal memory.

Alright thanks I thought there was a cap like previous devices but seems combined makes me a a lil unhappy not getting the 16GB version

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where's my 16gb?!

Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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That's probably just your micro SD card.
Nope. It's there. App storage is 2gb (which by the way is an insane amount.) The 16gb is internal storage for other stuff like media and files that your apps create and use.
Go to the program on your phone called files and hit 'Home'. That's your 16gb and the folder in there called 'sd' is your external SD card.
2gig for app(which is plenty),12gig for internal, and 8gig for sd
Coming from mytouch 3g and g1 I have no complaints
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Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?
christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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How much did you pay for your device? Did you order from cellstores.com?
Androidandme.com. I got it for 170 with next day shipping
what do you need more than 2gb for?
I am only semi-angry about the Epic only getting 1GB. The DROID and many other phones have only 256MB or so, and most of those users get long more or less fine, and froyo makes it a non-issue.
who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.
Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.
Kind-of. Not all apps can be moved to SD with Froyo's Apps2SD implementation, some ("protected" ones) still have to stay in the normal App storage.
The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.
well when in the heck is froyo coming out? I ordered a 32gb card for mine which will all be here tuesday. and i will throw this g1 as far as i can!!!!!
christpuncher said:
The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.
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You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.
christpuncher said:
Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?
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MicroSD is 2gb and replaceable by any MicroSD you buy in the store.
Internal is 16gb split up like this:
Apps - 2gb
Storage - 14gb
The 14gb internal storage is mounted on:
/sdcard
Your SD card is mounted on:
/sdcard/sd
Satertek said:
Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.
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That's going to be crrraazzyyyyy....16GB is a lot of space for apps....but hey why not...I sure would like to control my partitions.
raduque said:
You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.
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....or that they are just not educated on how things work.
kusotare said:
who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.
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yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs
boodies said:
yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs
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You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!
iunlock said:
You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!
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You guys dont seem to get it! The actual App is not 100megs, the apps are like 1-5 megs...the extra 100megs that needs to be downloaded to play said app is stored wherever you decide, whether thats on the internal memory or on an sd card. It is not taken into account in the 2gb storage for app space.
So in that case 2gb is plenty enough for whats out there right now...trust us!

Freeing Up Internal Memory Is Like...

...freeing up space on your HDD from 1995. We are juggling with megabytes, not gigabytes... has anyone ever noticed that?
That's because phones are very different from desktop computers...
The phone could do with more internal storage...
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Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...
It should at least have 1 GB of storage *for the user*
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Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
MegaBUD said:
Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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If you had 4gb of ram all the running services woukd kill ure batter in 5 minutes 1 gig of ram would be sufficient with a few gigs of internal storage
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OK... internal storage... I made a mistake...
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Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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leots said:
I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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In working for years with computers I have to say hard drives are very volatile. If I got more than 5 years or so out of a consumer hard drive up until the past few years I considered it good. Its the only part of your computer (besides fans) that has consistently moving parts.
But its true I do feel like its 1995 again with all this juggling of free space. Its pretty annoying actually
neverwinter said:
Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...
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Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB
I feel you bro, I got 62mb free on my internal memory, no more than 400mb free in my 8gb SD card and 2gb left on my 270gb HDD, so I definitely won't be using any link2sd thingies any soon, until I buy a new SD card, just because the damn phone nor the sdcard that comes with it doesn't come with any space for your stuff, due to the .android_secure folder occupying like 2gb and a half. It's pretty awkward, yet the phone is worth it.
Maybe I could be a Yottabyte but the internal memory is still pretty small
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Ye low space then the phone starts freezing not good, but thsts what TB is good for
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Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.
I have storage problems too.
I have only 130Mb of apps on the internal storage, the rest in on my sd card and yet still I have only 78mb free. Any suggestions as to the cause of this?
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Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
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I think he means moving apps from the data partition to the system partition (where your base rom is stored-the stuff that is still there when you wipe data/factory reset), thus freeing up space on your data partition, which is where apps you install normally are stored.
~Troop
Sunjay140 said:
Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB
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Yeah, when we have rooting and apps like Link2SD...
Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.
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You could try this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/

13gb of 16gb free.

Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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no. the reason for this is android takes up a bit of that space.
Nope no way. Its partitioned for the operating system. Just like we have 1GB of ram but only 900mbs is usable.
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Gremlins ate it.
Hungry little buggers....
Enjoy it while it lasts... I'm at 3 gb of 16 free... almost time for the external flash drive set up.
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Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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Possibly with LVM if you have the time and knowledge
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check out the storage space used on a new desktop or laptop pc as soon as you bought it.. You will see some of it taken up .. by windows there is also a Recovery partition (often hidden from user ) as well as a cache partition boot partition and partition tables also take up space on the storage disk.
This device was designed to use cloud base storage .I for one think its a great idea.. But i would love for some of the games to be able to play across OTG ...
Thank you for all your replies. I guess I'll be relying on OTG for my games and movies then. Already ordered the cable bought the app
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the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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Uninstall the OS.
32GB Nexus 7 Storage Space on Arrival
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
AW: 13gb of 16gb free.
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Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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You lucky one.. I only got 27.56 free.. Yes it's normal ^^
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taff2408 said:
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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Quick primer in storage...
Manufacturers and operating systems use two different, but both technically correct, methods of calculating storage capacity. 32GB translates to roughly 29.8GB a far as the software is concerned. As such, you've overestimated the storage used by the system files by over 2GB.
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taff2408 said:
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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32gb is actually about 29.5 so that seems normal.
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16 Gig USB flash drive gives u 14 Gig of free space ....
So formatting also takes some space .
XDA-99 said:
16 Gig USB flash drive gives u 14 Gig of free space ....
So formatting also takes some space .
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It is simply due to the fact that there are two different methods of measuring storage capacity. Hard drive manufacturers report a gigabyte as one billion bytes. Software, on the other hand, uses a binary system to measure capacity and reports 1,073,741,824 bytes as one gigabyte. As such, a completely empty 16GB drive is going to only show as roughly 14.8GB.
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Its the same on every electronic as previous poster explained. My 32GB iPod touch has somewhere around 28GB available, 32GB Zune HD has around 28GB, 32GB micro SD card has some 28-29GB available, and we won't even mention how much is "missing" from my laptops 500GB HDD.
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Galaxy S4 Space and Availability Questions

Hi
I am probably going to get a G54 soon and can't wait! But I have two questions before I take the plunge:
1) How much space is available on the 16gb version after removing all the bloatwave via root? This is a major concern for me in the chance there is not a white 32gb version because of the 9gb only available
2) Does anyone know if there are any plans for a White 32gb version to be released? I only see the black version available and I prefer the white version.
Thanks to anyone that can help and I hope all of you are enjoying your GS4's!
I have the same question... would love to know the answer! Thanks
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I've said it many times in many threads....debloating will not give you any use able space
-All the "bloat" is located in the system partition.
-the size of the partition is set to a certain amount, for our case it leaves us with about 9gb
-yes debloating will free space in the system partition, but its not going to change the size of the actual partition. Not to mention the system partition space is unusable for the user, it is there primarily for system/root purposes
-we will need Devs to change partition layouts if we want more free space
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Ah okay, I guess I'm stuck waiting for a possible white 32gb version...
Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Brava27 said:
Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Don't the apps download extra information that can slow them down if all that information is moved to the SD Card? The main two that have information like that for me are GroupMe and Facebook. Because for some reason on my iPhone my GroupMe app, among others, has data saved on my phone that boosted it's size from like 30mb to 600mb which I am sure is local data the app saves on my phone. So its a concern for me if the limited space on the 16gb is taken up by things like that. Also, is it possible to automatically save recorded videos and photos to the SD card? I know music can be played directly off of it but not sure about those two.

Memory how much free mem do you have

Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Well thats not really true. If you are rooted you can use folder mount which will do the job nicely. If not rooted then no you cannot move large files.
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Please post the storage section in your settings.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Mine has always been accurate and never had to download any extra apps.
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Try running Disk Usage (free in the Play Store) which will give you a detailed breakdown of what is stored where. I've found it very useful for tracking down what is taking up all the space.
Inernal memory is partitioned
mjasinsk said:
Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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The issue is that the internal memory is partitioned and twhat is here called sd-card only get a part of it. The biggest other part is the system partition where Android and all the internal apps are stored. Therefore you only have this small amount of free memory.
Solution: None. Okay, you can root your device and then with some tricks integrate the external sd-card into your internal one but this is all not perfect and needs always a very fast sd-card.
mjasinsk said:
Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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I returned mine for a 32 model. If you can i would recommend doing so.
Woody
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mjasinsk said:
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
Ok thx. Disk usage helpd me to clean up some folders. Some magazines took hundreds of megabytes of memory. Right now i have 8gb of free mem
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
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