Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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That's probably just your micro SD card.
Nope. It's there. App storage is 2gb (which by the way is an insane amount.) The 16gb is internal storage for other stuff like media and files that your apps create and use.
Go to the program on your phone called files and hit 'Home'. That's your 16gb and the folder in there called 'sd' is your external SD card.
2gig for app(which is plenty),12gig for internal, and 8gig for sd
Coming from mytouch 3g and g1 I have no complaints
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Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?
christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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How much did you pay for your device? Did you order from cellstores.com?
Androidandme.com. I got it for 170 with next day shipping
what do you need more than 2gb for?
I am only semi-angry about the Epic only getting 1GB. The DROID and many other phones have only 256MB or so, and most of those users get long more or less fine, and froyo makes it a non-issue.
who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.
Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.
Kind-of. Not all apps can be moved to SD with Froyo's Apps2SD implementation, some ("protected" ones) still have to stay in the normal App storage.
The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.
well when in the heck is froyo coming out? I ordered a 32gb card for mine which will all be here tuesday. and i will throw this g1 as far as i can!!!!!
christpuncher said:
The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.
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You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.
christpuncher said:
Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?
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MicroSD is 2gb and replaceable by any MicroSD you buy in the store.
Internal is 16gb split up like this:
Apps - 2gb
Storage - 14gb
The 14gb internal storage is mounted on:
/sdcard
Your SD card is mounted on:
/sdcard/sd
Satertek said:
Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.
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That's going to be crrraazzyyyyy....16GB is a lot of space for apps....but hey why not...I sure would like to control my partitions.
raduque said:
You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.
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....or that they are just not educated on how things work.
kusotare said:
who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.
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yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs
boodies said:
yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs
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You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!
iunlock said:
You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!
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You guys dont seem to get it! The actual App is not 100megs, the apps are like 1-5 megs...the extra 100megs that needs to be downloaded to play said app is stored wherever you decide, whether thats on the internal memory or on an sd card. It is not taken into account in the 2gb storage for app space.
So in that case 2gb is plenty enough for whats out there right now...trust us!
Related
did you know the internal memory is a 2gig SD card check out this vid bellow
taking a streak to bits but turn down the sound don't know what lingo it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxcib-ricec
Total strip-down to replace? Takes a braver man than me!
i think the real question is why would you need to change the internal one. 2gb of app storage is pretty damn awesome to say the least i mean im only using 285mb and ive got over 100apps installed
flumps said:
i think the real question is why would you need to change the internal one. 2gb of app storage is pretty damn awesome to say the least i mean im only using 285mb and ive got over 100apps installed
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That is true plenty enough just read about someone putting a 32gig as the internal memory and he has a 32gig sd card so he has 64 gig
lufc said:
That is true plenty enough just read about someone putting a 32gig as the internal memory and he has a 32gig sd card so he has 64 gig
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32GB class 1 would be slow for apps/performance. for storage its alright so if you want a higher capacity for internal app storage, get a speedier 16gig card or wait for better 32gig cards.
Since it's internal memory, can/will all 16 GB be used for apps?
Nope, it's partitioned. Something like 2gb is partitioned for apps, and the rest shows up just like an sd card would.
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Nope, it's partitioned. Something like 2gb is partitioned for apps, and the rest shows up just like an sd card would.
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Interesting. But at least then, is it an actual 2GB? Because that's still a hell of a lot more than the ~200 MB I have currently.
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Nope, it's partitioned. Something like 2gb is partitioned for apps, and the rest shows up just like an sd card would.
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Ah, interesting. I just asked a question in another thread wondering if we could EXT partition the built in memory, but if they section out space that is awesome, especially if it's 2GB as my current EXT is 1GB and it's not even near full.
lol..I think we're the same group asking the same questions.
Doesnt seem anyone is certain. Problem again is forward thinking. 2gig Enough now ? Sure...but what if I want to cache a crap ton of maps ? What if all this 3d/opengl nonsense actually does help game devs what then...games will get larger and larger. Will it be enough for 6 months or a year from now ?
This is exactly how rumors start. When has google or samsung said that the Nexus S will only have 2gb for apps?
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This is exactly how rumors start. When has google or samsung said that the Nexus S will only have 2gb for apps?
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While it is true no one stated this officially.... the captivate does this exact thing. 16gb built in with 2gb squared off for app storage.
xManMythLegend said:
lol..I think we're the same group asking the same questions.
Doesnt seem anyone is certain. Problem again is forward thinking. 2gig Enough now ? Sure...but what if I want to cache a crap ton of maps ? What if all this 3d/opengl nonsense actually does help game devs what then...games will get larger and larger. Will it be enough for 6 months or a year from now ?
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Lol, anyone remembers this game in progress?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRDmY0H72r8
It's supposed to have 1 GB of game data.
lostinbeta said:
While it is true no one stated this officially.... the captivate does this exact thing. 16gb built in with 2gb squared off for app storage.
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I can't remember where I read that the iNand is partitioned. I can't find the source now... I thought it was the Techcrunch review of the Engadget preview, but no dice. If I'm wrong, then I'm guessing it's on large partition with a .secure folder like Froyo.
Look at this picture from Engadget. I am guessing from this, it is just 1 GB for the apps.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644045
Edit: To be precise, it is the picture 44 of 53.
subramanianv said:
Look at this picture from Engadget. I am guessing from this, it is just 1 GB for the apps.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644045
Edit: To be precise, it is the picture 44 of 53.
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16GB and they only let us use 1GB to store apps? What do they expect us to do with the other 15?
Mokurex said:
16GB and they only let us use 1GB to store apps? What do they expect us to do with the other 15?
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If you're using the phone as a media player, 16gb is definitely not enough for songs and videos and ebooks. What about photos? Not to mention map cache files for any navigation app you are using.
That's why some of us need removable storage...
what I really don't get is that flash memory is pretty damn cheap...why don't they go for broke with the storage?
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16GB and they only let us use 1GB to store apps? What do they expect us to do with the other 15?
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Who cares? 1 GB is still 5 times more than what I have now.
By the time that becomes a limiting factor for me, it'll be time to upgrade again
Is this how all Galaxy S phones currently work? 1 GB of app space? Does anyone have one handy?
Paul22000 said:
Who cares? 1 GB is still 5 times more than what I have now.
By the time that becomes a limiting factor for me, it'll be time to upgrade again
Is this how all Galaxy S phones currently work? 1 GB of app space? Does anyone have one handy?
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I had a captivate (but got rid of it to get a nexus one) and you do get 2gb of app storage. I had about 200 or so apps installed with about a gb left.
With the n1 with dark's a2sd, I had to cut back on a lot of apps, about 130 now, and about 30mb left on the phone. Without darktremor's a2sd, i would probably only get 50 or so [small] apps
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16GB and they only let us use 1GB to store apps? What do they expect us to do with the other 15?
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Don't worry, xda will have a partition hack in about 2 days after release
1GB for apps/cache is a lot.
I currently have ~700MB partitioned off for apps2sdext. With the cache moved to this partition along with apps and app-data, I'm 68% full. This is with 213 apps.
Remember that games usually use the sdcard for their files.
Code:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 208156 12 208144 0% /dev
tmpfs 208156 0 208156 0% /mnt/asec
/dev/block/mtdblock3 148480 114004 34476 77% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock5 200960 138912 62048 69% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 97280 3168 94112 3% /cache
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 702873 450251 215122 68% /sd-ext
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Interesting. But at least then, is it an actual 2GB? Because that's still a hell of a lot more than the ~200 MB I have currently.
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It should have a huge amount of app storage, because apps can be installed on the data partition and the SD card/storage partition. It's probably about 200MB for the system partition, the rest can be used for app storage. On the Galaxy S phones and Galaxy Tab running 2.2, which have SD slots, you can install apps either on the data partition or the internal storage, not the SD card.
subramanianv said:
Look at this picture from Engadget. I am guessing from this, it is just 1 GB for the apps.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644045
Edit: To be precise, it is the picture 44 of 53.
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Yep, 1gig for internal storage (for app installs/etc..), and 14gigs for internal "external" storage.
Odd because other Galaxy S phones (Captivate/Vibrant), has 2 gigs for Internal Storage and 14 gigs of internal "external" storage.
So I bought my HTC Shift 4G but i think it's Defective. I've called HTC, Sprint, and Bestbuy. The 3 companies say the Phone Has 2 GB Internal Memory(ROM). However my Phone only shows 432MB :
203 MB Apps
69. MB System
159.6 MB Free space
Could it be Defective or They just don't know what they saying.
Would u guys tell me if ur devices are showing the same ??
I bought this phone cuz the 2GB. I'd hate to return it and get the big EPIC!!
thanks!!
I got 431 for applications(internal storage)
I figure the rest is system reserved by the fellows at HTC. That is where the OS/kernel is located. Probably locked away/system mountable only, to prevent us from obtaining root. ( any of you fellows who know better can feel free to correct me.) Just based on knowledge of linux etc. Not much in depth on the droid
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I'm pretty sure it does in fact have 2GB of internal memory, however it seems like a big chunk of that is taken up by the operating system and maybe some is reserved for system storage/app caches/etc. Not 100% sure but I think that's why.
dansal28 said:
So I bought my HTC Shift 4G but i think it's Defective. I've called HTC, Sprint, and Bestbuy. The 3 companies say the Phone Has 2 GB Internal Memory(ROM). However my Phone only shows 432MB :
203 MB Apps
69. MB System
159.6 MB Free space
Could it be Defective or They just don't know what they saying.
Would u guys tell me if ur devices are showing the same ??
I bought this phone cuz the 2GB. I'd hate to return it and get the big EPIC!!
thanks!!
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They are referring to the 2GB SD card thar comes with the phone.
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They are referring to the 2GB SD card thar comes with the phone.
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yep.
Guess you take it back and get an epic.
That's not actually not true, they claimed that the evo only had 1gb of internal memory but came with a 8gig sd card, disproving your theory right there.
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akmzero said:
That's not actually not true, they claimed that the evo only had 1gb of internal memory but came with a 8gig sd card, disproving your theory right there.
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Disproving what theory?
Heelfan71 said:
yep.
Guess you take it back and get an epic.
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Yeah what he said.
No conspiracy theories, just information...
Check here: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2946
It gives you the specs.
This is what I got from Root Explorer:
/app-cache - 4k used, 8.00MB free
/cache - 31.21MB used, 111.01MB free
/data - 351.02MB used, 80.70MB free
/dev - 12K used, 186.59 MB free
/devlog - 4.04MB used, 15.82MB free
/etc - 288.83MB used, 102.53MB free
/system - 288.83MB used, 102.53MB free
I'm not a dev so can't interpret it correctly but it does seem there's lots of memory here and there that could probably be partitioned to the /data folder for more app storage once perm root is achieved.
EDIT: I've removed lots of stock apps so your numbers will not match mine.
The first Shift that I picked up from Best Buy was indeed defective. Not because it wasn't showing the proper amount of memory, but because it locked up on me 5 times in the first hour that I had it. All I could do to get it to turn off is battery pull, and then when I put the battery back in i had a really tough time getting it to turn back on. They swapped it out for me, and my new one has been flawless.
i'm wondering (don't quote me on this) if the extra internal storage is hidden/locked by HTC so there will be room available when the new sense drops? i've heard it's a lot bigger than the current version with the stand-alone navigation/maps that it's going to bring with it.
Has anyone ripped one apart and checked all of the chips on board?
I would take it back to the store and exchange it.
Phone should have around 256mb for apps (With all the stock apps installed)
I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
http://xperiaandroid.com/motorola-xoom-specs-and-release-date.html
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info
gogol said:
I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info
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I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.
SFBPro said:
I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.
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There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.
RAM is used for running apps
Internal storage is used to hold movies, music, etc..... in this case apps as well
as far as running out of space you should search threads on apps to SD
eallan said:
There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.
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And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
lol @ this thread
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lol @ this thread
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Second that
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As is said:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ram-and-memory.htm
Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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This would be nice!
Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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yes adjustable storage space would be nice... lol.
how about everytime we install an app it takes up a certain amount of space, then we know how much we have left. IF we had something like that it would be amazing. I think there is something like this included with the Xoom, but it's pure speculation at this point.
I am really enjoying this thread waaay too much.
gogol said:
Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"
Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
drhill said:
Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"
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Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
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My point was Google is smarter then us. Don't worry about it.
...freeing up space on your HDD from 1995. We are juggling with megabytes, not gigabytes... has anyone ever noticed that?
That's because phones are very different from desktop computers...
The phone could do with more internal storage...
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Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...
It should at least have 1 GB of storage *for the user*
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Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
MegaBUD said:
Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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If you had 4gb of ram all the running services woukd kill ure batter in 5 minutes 1 gig of ram would be sufficient with a few gigs of internal storage
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OK... internal storage... I made a mistake...
MegaBUD said:
Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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leots said:
I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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In working for years with computers I have to say hard drives are very volatile. If I got more than 5 years or so out of a consumer hard drive up until the past few years I considered it good. Its the only part of your computer (besides fans) that has consistently moving parts.
But its true I do feel like its 1995 again with all this juggling of free space. Its pretty annoying actually
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Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...
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Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB
I feel you bro, I got 62mb free on my internal memory, no more than 400mb free in my 8gb SD card and 2gb left on my 270gb HDD, so I definitely won't be using any link2sd thingies any soon, until I buy a new SD card, just because the damn phone nor the sdcard that comes with it doesn't come with any space for your stuff, due to the .android_secure folder occupying like 2gb and a half. It's pretty awkward, yet the phone is worth it.
Maybe I could be a Yottabyte but the internal memory is still pretty small
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Ye low space then the phone starts freezing not good, but thsts what TB is good for
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Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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psxpetey said:
Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.
I have storage problems too.
I have only 130Mb of apps on the internal storage, the rest in on my sd card and yet still I have only 78mb free. Any suggestions as to the cause of this?
psxpetey said:
Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
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I think he means moving apps from the data partition to the system partition (where your base rom is stored-the stuff that is still there when you wipe data/factory reset), thus freeing up space on your data partition, which is where apps you install normally are stored.
~Troop
Sunjay140 said:
Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB
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Yeah, when we have rooting and apps like Link2SD...
Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.
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You could try this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/