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Do you think Xoom 1GB internal memory is enough?

I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
http://xperiaandroid.com/motorola-xoom-specs-and-release-date.html
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info

gogol said:
I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info
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I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.

SFBPro said:
I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.
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There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.

RAM is used for running apps
Internal storage is used to hold movies, music, etc..... in this case apps as well
as far as running out of space you should search threads on apps to SD

eallan said:
There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.
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And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.

lol @ this thread

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lol @ this thread
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Second that
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As is said:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ram-and-memory.htm

Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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This would be nice!
Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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yes adjustable storage space would be nice... lol.
how about everytime we install an app it takes up a certain amount of space, then we know how much we have left. IF we had something like that it would be amazing. I think there is something like this included with the Xoom, but it's pure speculation at this point.
I am really enjoying this thread waaay too much.

gogol said:
Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"

Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
drhill said:
Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"
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gogol said:
Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
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My point was Google is smarter then us. Don't worry about it.

How's everyone is holding up with the Nexus 4's limited storage.

So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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ajoerivera said:
So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.

djkinetic said:
My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.
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Never heard of it ill have to look it up isn't that basically a cloud though
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I don't even need the 8GB of space.

asawoszc said:
I don't even need the 8GB of space.
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This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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El Daddy said:
This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??

mrgold2505 said:
can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??
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5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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El Daddy said:
5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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So plaint of space for a old user like me...lol thanks for your fast replay. so i think iam going to by one in ebay...lol

2.99GB free as of now

800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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Why keep so many backups? I used to keep 2 but I never reverted back to anything except the most recent one. Now I don't even bother with nandroids.

13gb:beer:
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus 16GB and I have at least 10 GB free. I would have got 8GB but we only have 16GB version.
I use it for Web browsing, some music and games.
I agree those who have a lot of media files on their phones will face problems. But an OTG cable will solve the issue.
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I got the 16gb version but have 50gb on my dropbox account so its not issue to me

Just fine, I would have liked the 16gb but it wasn't available so I've made due with the 8gb and it hasn't been much of an issue.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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no reason to keep backups on your phone at all. store them on your pc or backup drive. should something happen you can always push it to your phone, either manually via abd (push file /sdcard/) or nexus toolkit comfortably.

The space has not effected me very much at all. Compared to my 8 GB iPod Touch my 16 GB Nexus 4 is a luxury.
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about 2gb free on the 8Gb version... I'll admit its a bit annoying at times, but overall not really an issue. The Google music, drive and box account for cloud storage basically take care of everything.
The saving grace is google music.. (did the hack to get it working in canada etc..) without that 8Gb would just not be enough at all.

4.2 gb

My last phone was a gs3 and I had a 32gb sd card in it. It being hooked up to sprint I personally couldn't rely I cloud services like I do now my service was that bad, and mind you I live in NY. having switched to A&tt is a lot better . I guess it just a little weird to look at my phone and only see 5gbs free.
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Missing storage

Anyone has any idea?
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obsanity said:
Anyone has any idea?
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16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.

Well its called a boot partition on anything with an OS yes but an external hard drive and its space is down to the actual number of GBs. So 1gb is actually 1024 MBs so 2GB is actually 2048 MBs and so on.
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kzoodroid said:
16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.
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Thanks for a reply but I don't think that's it in this case. I have the 8GB version and that should give me 5.7 usable. Look in the right top corner of my screenshot.
I've recovered about 400MB before that by moving a TWRP backup which somehow got placed in a word location. Can anyone install this app and tell me if they have a similar square of unrecognized space?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jzap.memorymap
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Not possible to move apps to SD

Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"

It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.

BoneXDA said:
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.

Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?

Still taking any and all suggestions...

knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.

Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!

knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
Swyped from another galaxy

Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol

You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.

You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.

my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????

First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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[Q] Please tell me how to add 8gb more memory to my Nexus 4?

Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?

Nope, it's impossible. The only way would be to buy a different device.
Unless you want to find a ROM/kernel that supports USB OTG, and you could use a flash drive to store things. I'm not sure how well implemented this is on the n4 though.

That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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And of course, how could I forget. The main reason for the lack of space is because Google is pushing cloud storage. It is the future after all, and I find it is so much easier than worrying about physical storage space.

The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7

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The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7
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If you have enough data, it can be useful anywhere you have a data connection. But of course, not everyone has that.

punish said:
Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?
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Hello punish, you can add hardware storage only with usb otg. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
You should have an otg y-cable and flash a zip in recovery.

But then you still have to be next to a power source for your extra storage. This is the single thing that seriously annoys me with the devices today.
I remember getting my old 5th gen iPod video 80gb back in 2005 when it first came out. And it still works perfectly fine today despite being 8 years old and using a hard drive instead of flash storage.
I mean how can companies offer a device with 8gb (5gb usable) and possibly suggest it is enough. That is 10 times less than a product from 8 years ago.
I know they are pushing cloud storage but still in today's world it is turd.
Not everybody has unlimited data.
No provider will have great reception everywhere.
Devices nowadays are pushing 1080p screens and you will only possibly be able to stream 1080 media on lte which will lower your reception areas down significantly.
Streaming files from the cloud will consume far more battery than playing local content.
I don't even understand how they thought that we are in a current state where cloud storage is better than local.
At least not until we have gigabit mobile internet and mobile sized flash storage that can write at those speeds. It's just a gimmick that can be used for backing up non important files and if your lucky streaming music.
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Alright, this thing is a real piece of crap but it'll have to do if you really need/want extra storage: http://www.zerolemon.com/details.ph...r-battery-case-2250mah-removable-battery-pack
You'll have to be a little handy since it needs to be modded. Basically, there's a LOT of wasted space inside the case, which makes it perfect for adding a usb flash drive / card reader.
I'm using a Kingston G2 reader with a 64gb microsdxc card. I'm really hoping they release a G3 with uhs support soon.. Class 10 is so slow.
The biggest issue I have with "cloud" services is the stupidity of Google Play Music. It'll cache and cache and cache with no limits. Sooner or later, it'll have gobbled up all the storage.

derp

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reading comprehension

Sorry didn;t bother to read the rest of your message. Seems interesting, but maybe a bit of work. It's probably better to hope for the Nexus 5 to have OTG support and 32gb.
I was thinking about the Sandisk WiFi flashdrive: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-Wireless-Flash-SDWS2-032G-E57/dp/B00DBX371C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?

punish said:
Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?
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Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.

Desno365 said:
Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.
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Then you have to put custom rom and this kernel on my phone .

try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Conne...&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+wireless+flash+drive

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try this instead:
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Big gotcha with Wireless flash storage - when you connect to the wireless storage, you give up access to the cell network or other wifi you were using for data. Thus, you have to choose - data or storage. You can't have both.
Best solution to add 8gb more memory to a Nexus 4 is to get rid of the Nexus 4 and get a phone with more memory.

Hello colleagues, I finally decided to flash rum on my Nexus, but I do not rely ANSWER (micro usb flash memory). Can you tell me what you would read my phone or who put my rоm with any kernel?