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Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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I show 9.62 available on mine. It is kind of odd, but they did add a TON of bloatware. Once we get root and can remove those apps, we should be able to recapture quite a bit back.
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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Could be like the HOX and have around 10 for whatever storage and 6 dedicated for app storage and software/rom
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Yeah...seems pretty typical for a phone. ..they arent lieing as they never said 16gb useable...
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Yeah mine shows 9.62 total space and 8.48 available after installing my apps from previous phone, kinda sucks but at least there is an SD slot.
I was curious so I checked my old Sprint GNEX 32GB, it also has a chunk missing, about 7.5GB missing, so it is similar.
It would be nice if they listed the missing space as Reserved or System etc. instead of not showing it.
Yup guys 16GB total internal. The ROM and software has to sit somewhere on there. And AT&T has added so much crap to it I'm not surprised. But thats what the SD card slot is for yeah?
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
Aou said:
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
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Exactly. I heard the ROM file for the S4 was like 1.2 gigs or something like that. That's without cache and whatever else it needs to do.
I remember when I had the S3 the ROM file was like 800 megs for TW. And for AOSP it was like 250.
Even with a debloated rom its gonna be the same as the system partition is already set regardless of whats on it...just so you guys know of course it is posssiboe for a dev to tweak partition amounts...but they typically dont unless necessary
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Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
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Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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It seems the 16gb S4 is still the only option at the moment in the UK, I originally cancelled my order when I found out about the internal memory issue and the fact you can't save apps to the sd card. If you root some of my banking apps won't work, so that is not an option, not that apps work all the time properly on the sd card anyway. Also if you rent films from Googlr these cache in internal memory.
So for all you 16gb owners what is the internal memory space left , what have you installed and how much of an inconvenience is it, if at all. Please be honest, I just want to see what you can get on each of your S4's. Are any of you struggling already or believe you might.
Your help here will make me decide whether I just bite the bullet and compromise with the 16gb. Thanks in advance.
I've been a bit more careful than usual, not installed any of the big storage hog games, disabled Document Sync (which inexplicably tries to fill the internal storage with dropbox content), moved TomTom data to the SD card, and now have about 100 applications installed and 6Gb of space left. Not really a problem for me as yet, I'm using DiskUsage to monitor the situation. I'm also dithering about the One, but at the moment I'd rather have the 9Gb+64Gb SD card than the One's 25Gb. Might change if I have problems later and the One gets a 64Gb variant.
Thanks for feedback. One of my friends has only 2.5gb free now and hasn't installed any of his fav games. No room if he tried.
Anybody else got feedback.
it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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fade2green514 said:
it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
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Just give it a week or 2 and you will have some nice xda devs throwing solutions at us
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Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
how to disable document sync?
DocumentSync is solved see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261385
gavinfabl said:
Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
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get the one ...
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get the one ...
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I have but I want a S4 as well but one that is sufficient
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Markuzy said:
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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We might see something because of that Google edition s4...
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I am managing quite well, this is with around a 100 different apps, varying in size. With Spotify playlist download of a 100 songs. I will be happy when Samsung will fix this issue.
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For me the 9Gb of storage is enough i don't generally game on my phone, and only install what i use, music, vids & pictures all go onto my SD card.
But i think the S4 should have launched at 32Gb this time around, back in the day the S1 launched with 8Gb, when the S2 came it was bumped upto 16Gb at launch
I think the easiest option really would be for Samsung to come up with a way to allow you to save apps to SD card, even though Jellybean doesn't have this feature.
I do think though when the S5 arrives next year 32Gb will be standard, with options of 64Gb & 128Gb to.
I don't have any problems... Lots of apps and a few games installed... Batman, GTA, mini motor... I don't have much time to play but nice with the opportunity
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Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
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skivnit said:
Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
Swyped from another galaxy
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Agree! FolderMount is great for this phone.
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Doesn't bother me at all as I don't game on my phone. If you're a gamer then it might sting a little but apart from that music is via google play and photos in the 32 gig SD card
I store my ROM and app backups on my external SD (32 GB G-Skill class 6).
So I just got my hands on an i9500 Octa Galaxy S4.
I'm generally happy with my purchase except for one thing - the storage available to me for apps and games on the device itself.
Right now - I'm seeing about 8.82GB total storage out of which I have about just over 6GB free. That's just shocking !!!
This is supposed to be a 16GB device and I would have expected to see alot more than this. I understand that the other 7GB is taken up by Samsung's own bloat.
This might be a stupid question but is there any way that some of this 7GB can be recovered and used for installing apps etc. I mean, even my old S3 has over 11GB available to the end user.
Yes - I know I have the option of getting an SD card and using an app like Link2SD to move some the existing bloat off internal storage. However, when a device is advertised as having 16GB then it sure as hell should have close to what was advertised.
I really hate the fact how Samsung have marketed this to the general public - especially considering it's their flagship device.
Sorry if this has been asked already but I did do quick search and couldn't find anything on the subject.
mzaslam said:
So I just got my hands on an i9500 Octa Galaxy S4.
I'm generally happy with my purchase except for one thing - the storage available to me for apps and games on the device itself.
Right now - I'm seeing about 8.82GB total storage out of which I have about just over 6GB free. That's just shocking !!!
This is supposed to be a 16GB device and I would have expected to see alot more than this. I understand that the other 7GB is taken up by Samsung's own bloat.
This might be a stupid question but is there any way that some of this 7GB can be recovered and used for installing apps etc. I mean, even my old S3 has over 11GB available to the end user.
Yes - I know I have the option of getting an SD card and using an app like Link2SD to move some the existing bloat off internal storage. However, when a device is advertised as having 16GB then it sure as hell should have close to what was advertised.
I really hate the fact how Samsung have marketed this to the general public - especially considering it's their flagship device.
Sorry if this has been asked already but I did do quick search and couldn't find anything on the subject.
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That is your lot.
Samsung were a little reticent about how much the user could actually use.
Mine was about 9.5GB on an unbranded device.
Yes you can free up some space. Root it and then then download Titanium Backup and freeze (uninstall) every bloat you want
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Yes you can free up some space. Root it and then then download Titanium Backup and freeze (uninstall) every bloat you want
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That will only free up space in /system though. You would have to repartition to make use of it for other things.
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That will only free up space in /system though. You would have to repartition to make use of it for other things.
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Yes - that makes sense. So the next question is, how feasible is this, if at all ?
I expect that this "other" system partition is hidden and protected. So can we access it and if so, can we in effect, re-partition this storage for general purpose use ?
Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Well thats not really true. If you are rooted you can use folder mount which will do the job nicely. If not rooted then no you cannot move large files.
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Please post the storage section in your settings.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Mine has always been accurate and never had to download any extra apps.
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Try running Disk Usage (free in the Play Store) which will give you a detailed breakdown of what is stored where. I've found it very useful for tracking down what is taking up all the space.
Inernal memory is partitioned
mjasinsk said:
Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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The issue is that the internal memory is partitioned and twhat is here called sd-card only get a part of it. The biggest other part is the system partition where Android and all the internal apps are stored. Therefore you only have this small amount of free memory.
Solution: None. Okay, you can root your device and then with some tricks integrate the external sd-card into your internal one but this is all not perfect and needs always a very fast sd-card.
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Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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I returned mine for a 32 model. If you can i would recommend doing so.
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mjasinsk said:
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
Ok thx. Disk usage helpd me to clean up some folders. Some magazines took hundreds of megabytes of memory. Right now i have 8gb of free mem
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
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