[Q] Purchase current Iconia or wait? - Acer Iconia A500

Ok so I've been wanting to get a tegra2-3 based tablet and the transformer prime is epic fail :/ soooo I've been watching sites like woot and have noticed that all the refurbs w/ the Iconia 500 are ~300$
I'm just not sure if its worth getting an refurb 32gb A500, old transformer, A200, or the new Acer tablets that come out in Q2?
I read the tablet is kinda heavy but honestly I just don't know if the thickness of the will be a bad thing plus no IPS on the old and new display, so I'm not sure if I should wait or get the new model.

The iconia is a great tablet. That said, the tech available now is always cheaper and has the bird in the hand advantage. The stuff available tomorrow is always shinier and flashier. You have to drop the hammer sometime, do you want a great tab now or a possibly greater one in 6 months?
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The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris

I Would wait unless you get a great deal
maris__ said:
The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris
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If you just WANT!!!! the tablet i would wait .. if you have to have it Wait. Wait until they are released and see if they are rooted..See how Development for such tablet pans out..But as stated above waiting for the next best thing will likely keep you without a tablet . I usually wait and buy when its closer to end of life and prices have dropped. I did pre order my a500. only regret is updates being so slow and the device being locked down by acer. thou this has mostly been over come.
So i would wait unless I found a very awesome Deal...
As far as the 9.800 mAh Battery.. of course is has a more powerful batter . Its processor is way more double.. if YOU LOOK At in perspective . IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
Sorry to kill your battery run time theory. Thou the t 3 has a added advantage to suspend mode. with there 5 th core. I will not get into that here

Try searching google for pc parts ohio.... I bet if you look at their "tablets" inventory.... you might find something to change your mind and make you buy an Iconia a500 right NOW. I did.... i'll never regret it!

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IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
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Don't think so. Several blogs mention a battery life of 18 hours. This is of course an exaggeration, but suggests that a longer battery life can be expected compared with the A500, which has a battery life of 11 hours according to official specs.
Best regards, maris

Just get juice defender and love your battery for who he/she is ^_^.

The A500 has the most bang for your buck and is one of the better mid-range tablets, but it isn't without issues.
I got the 16 GB model for about $320 (new) several months back and would still get it again as of today (i.e. if I lost or broke my tablet). However, with a slew of Tegra 3's around the corner you can bet the price for these last-generation models will fall even more.
If you can wait until April then you will save another $50-100 if you go with the A500. Then again, you may fall in love with the new ones. It all depends if you need/want a tablet computer now (I do).
Now, that said.... I do have some minor issues with the A500 after using it for 6 months. The microphone is completely useless due to a design flaw, and the screen is not as vivid as the Samsung or Motorola counterparts. If money was no object I probably would have gotten the XOOM.... but at the end of the day I also enjoy seeing that extra $200 in my pocket that I saved by getting the A500.

In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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I haven't used the Asus except for a few minutes in BB, but I heard they had some pretty bad ghosting issues that ours didn't have.
As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.

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The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
netham45 said:
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As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.
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Acer Iconia Tab A500 vs. iPad 2
May 18th, 2011
Considering purchasing a new tablet? Tablets are becoming more and more popular these days and they’re slowly going to be a must-have gadget for all households. Here are two of the latest slates compared in terms of basic features, so you can decide which one you should buy: the popular iPad 2 or the recently released Acer Iconia Tab A500.
In the beginning, we’ll take a brief look at their design and exterior dimensions. The iPad 2 comes in two possible colors: black or white. Its exact dimensions are as follows: 9.50 x 7.31 x 0.34 (241.2 x 185.7 x 8.8 mm) and it weighs 613 grams. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is thicker and heavier, though, its dimensions being 10.24 x 6.97 x 0.52 (260 x 177 x 13.3 mm ) and weighing in at 730 g. It turns out that the iPad 2 is a little more portable and sleek than the Acer tablet.
Moving further to the display, we find some other differences between the two slates. The Acer Iconia Tab comes with a 10.1-inch screen and a display resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features a 9.7-inch display with a resolution of 1024 x 768 pixels.
It’s time to discuss the cameras. The iPad 2 doesn’t rate very well in this category, since it only packs a 0.7-megapixel rear-facing camera and a VGA front-facing camera for video calling, while the Acer slate does quite well in the camera section, thanks to its 5MP shooter in the back and its additional 2MP front camera. The Acer Iconia Tab wins the battle as far as the cameras are concerned.
What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Let’s see what the two slates have in store for us when it comes to software. The Acer Iconia Tab comes installed with Android Honeycomb, the version developed especially for tablets. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features the Apple iOS 4.3 software, with many available apps. It all depends on which software you’re more accustomed to or inclined to use.
In the end, let’s also see what connectivity options each tablet has. Both slates feature Bluetooth 2.1 and WiFi compatibility and HDMI ports. Regarding pricing and availability details, here’s what you should know. The iPad 2 is selling for $499 (16GB), $599 (32GB), and $699 (64GB). The Acer Iconia Tab A500 starts at $450.
Wrap-up
Although the Apple iPad 2 may start as a favorite, mainly due to its wide popularity, the Acer Iconia Tab is a fierce competitor, thanks to its high-end specs and features. If you’re looking for a reasonably-priced Android tablet, the Acer Iconia is a smart choice, but of course, it’ll never be able to beat the iPad 2 in the popularity section.
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1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/

carpenterethan said:
The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
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1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/
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I did google it, many times but I was looking for pictures, the physical dimensions are easy to locate, but the picture thickness comparison is something else.
Hmm forgot I had a phone, the thickness on my thunderbolt is a bit larger overall

What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.

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What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.
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You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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The Iconia is a lot thicker, but I'm glad it is, because it feels harder and stronger in the hand.
Comparing to the iPad, the Iconia has a 10.1 inch screen, while the iPad has a 9.7 screen. The iPad is more square like, so it looks bigger, but in fact, the Iconia is a little bigger.

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You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...
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Actually, I meant, that if you look around, (it is hard to find, I got mine from www.Futureshop.ca) you can get a new, not refurb, Acer Iconia A500 with 64 GB Internal storage, for $400.00 plus taxes. Add the 32 GB microsd, & you will have 96 GB of storage.
This link should get you there, although it is now 499.00, not the 399.00 I paid at Christmas 2011.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=e96c6d3a6e56dcd548180b5df6fb8053en02

And to top it off, you should be able to run a 64Gb sd card and plug in an NTFS drive, I use a 1Tb HDD, thats some MAJOR mojo the ipad 2 can't even try to compete with....
Race is won before it even starts on that alone....

I was surprised that the a500 takes microsdxc though ive never seen higher than 64 gb. The one problem I have now is that some newer games like borderlands idk if its tegra3 required or tegra2 is acceptable. Though they haven't mentioned it, might as well wait. Acers Official ebay page seems to always have it.

Just checked price today, 64 GB A500 is now down to 449.00 @ Futurshop.ca.

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Go for the Eeepad or wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?

Im conidering a tablet but torn between the ASUS eeePad Transformer and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor, but they're making such a hash of releasing it by all accounts. Hardware specs don't appear to be fully finalised, it appears the thing version won't have a memory card slot, the camera only 3MP and it's still not released and there's no release date for the UK.
The ASUS meanwhile according to the videos I've seen have excellent sound which should be good for media playback.
Im worried about the lack of 3G but remember I could use my Galaxy S as a WiFi hotspot for those times I need to use this on the go.
The ASUS is released, has 3.1, some decent features and a great price.
Is there any reason I should wait for the Samsung and not get the ASUS? Is there any other tablet that comes close for the price? I was looking at the Xoom, and the Flywer and everything in between, but they all seemed to be much more expensive.
What do you guys think?
Does the Eeepad also support DivX playback?
Thanks
Simon
For divx it's ok but for HD videos all the tegra 2 tablets can't handle them very well.
Just want to be sure you won't expect much about it. That said, the transformer has a nice ips screen but with some bleeds (related to ips technology) and a microsd slot. The galaxy tab have no microsd slot.
The sound on the asus is not very good, I can't speak about the galaxy tab on this front.
Performance wise all tegra 2 tablets are more or less the same what you should look at are expansion ports, form factor and screen. So ask yourself what you want.
Hope that helps.
bottom line is if you want android but with an ipad formfactor in the sense of no built in expandibility but thin and light then go samsung.
If oyu want something that is less expensive, had HDMi and microsd built in, is cheaper, and has optional keyboard dock turning it into a longer battery life android netbook with usb ports and full sd card slot, then Go Asus. Asus however will be a bit heavier and thicker and from my experience the build quality will suffer a bit compared to the samsung.
I just read the Anandtech Review on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.The 10.1 wins with its thin form factor, weight and IPAD like contours, while the TF beats out the 10.1 on all benchmarks and battery life and the convenience of the dock.
I'm in the same situation as the OP with regards to the Samsung and the Asus (I've recently returned a TF), I'm now waiting for Samsung to release definitive specs and price here in the UK. I've just returned from my local PC World, they've no news on the GT 10.1 at all. Whilst I was there I had a look at the range of tablets on display and I have to say the Transformer looked better than I remember.
Yep, form factor definatley goes to Samsung, along with build quality.
As for Asus, its still a great looking tablet, and comfortable to hold in my opinion. Has the HDMI, memory card slot, ability to be docked, and is $100 less. Its sort of a no brainer for me, but depends what you want to do with it.
For some of the reasons mentioned by aibo I would wait for a tegra-3 tablet. This is especially true if you are interested in any type of HD media. The more I play with my TF the more I realize the tegra-2 is just underpowered trying to play any kind of HD content with HD sound. Don't get me wrong I love my TF and knowing what I know now if I really wanted to wait I would also wait for a tegra-3 Asus.
See the should I wait for the tegra-3 thread fo even more reasons to wait.
All the more reason to get the Asus. Get base model which is 399. Then next year give it to family or sell it for 200 and get a kalel tegra 3
This way you get to enjoy a tablet for a year and the 100 you save plus selling your used Asus will get you most of the way to the latest and greatest.
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sjdean said:
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor,
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How can the GT have a WOW factor? it's just the same as the Xoom, the Acer Iconia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc unless of course you mean WOW in Greek: Wimadia, Objectori, Wimbararia (The same as all the rest)
In the Galaxy Tab forum you ask
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Galaxy Tab: Is it Worth It?
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Of course it's not; it has a lot less features than the Transformer, it's a no brainer
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How can the GT have a WOW factor?
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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And +$100 more. Is it really worth it? The TF101 is pretty light as it is already.
With +$100 more you can get yourself a TF101 32GB AND A MicroSD slot whereas $499.99 Galaxy Tab 10.1 you'll get 16GB without a MicroSD.
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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I bet you think size 0 women a sexy
Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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I meant more along in this specific thread. Perhaps OP should also post this in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 forums as well as there are some users that have jumped ship from the Transformer to the 10.1 to get others opinions instead of Transformer users that haven't tried the 10.1 yet.
Looks like supercurio is liking the 10.1 according to his tweets.
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
I've owned both and trust me...the weight difference is a major advantage for the Tab...MAJOR!
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
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Not entirely true. It's just not built in. Sure you'll have to buy the adapter for it, but it is indeed expandable.
no hdmi is a deal breaker also.
Does samsung tab support dlna?
I am considering to go for transformer.
price was the big thing for me. $100 is a good chunk of money for something of similar specs.

Should I or Should I Not??

G'day guys,
I've decided to buy me a tablet for the FIRST time....did a little bit of research and found that the Galaxy Tab is looking the best so far in the market before the Quad-cores ones come out.
Apart from being the thinnest and lightest tablet in the market, compare to other tablets, how is the performance? I have also heard that its screen is also the brightest and most vibrant.
Is this tablet considered to be quite old now?
Any other pros and cons?
THANKS!
If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
Klk450 said:
If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
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How much more will those tablets be when they come out? Because I don't think I'm going to spend that much money on my first tablet as I have recently upgrade my Streak to a GNote
The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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He means GB not MB, One Mb of ram couldnt run a calendar widget.
thanks guys...I think you are both right....I am going to prob wait for the 2nd generation of tablets....especially with the price of the transformer prime being less than $500

Is it still worthit?

Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?
As many people say, if you always wait for the latest and greatest you will always be waiting. I got the 7.7 cause it was the newest model and I just wanted it, did i need it ? no but I just wanted it and the big seller is that I could finally use it as both a phone and tab, something that the original tmobile tab did not fully do. I am not familiar with tegra 3 but I do keep hearing about it. It is basically up to you and what your needs are.
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Any device you buy at any time is going to be out-dated within a few days/weeks. Just the way technology is. Gotta decide what your use case is and determine if a device meets your use case, and if so go for it.
Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!
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So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!
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Pretty much, yeah.
chainfire for HC?
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
The Galaxy Tab 7.7 is going to be leaps and bound better in the physical tablet war.. There's nothing coming out matching it's size/weight and feature set.
It's the thinnest and lightest 7-8" tablet in existence, has an amazing screen, a resolution only found in 10" Android tablets, list goes on.. Not the mention the 12+ hour battery life, besting the iPad2.
However, the CPU might be decently powerful at this time, but it will soon be easily overpowered by Qualcomm S4 tablets, Exynos2, OMAP5, (anything next gen, Tegra3 excluded). Tegra3 isn't that great, being based on Cortex A9 still.
allways a choice
This is the choice you allway have to make when it comes to electronic I personally buy something new and then enjoy it for a while until i just cant wait buying the next thing. Like its sayd many times before if you wait for the next "new" think, you can wait forewer
I really love my SGT-7.7 allthough i'm looking much forward to, it gets ICS
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I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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Its in russian, but you can see how it runs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Ns8NQ-_Lc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have the Verizon 4G LTE and I have to say, with regard to portability, feature set and shear amazement at the size and screen this tablet is the all in one device I have been looking for especially in the portability arena.
The 7.7 is an exceptional Tab. It is actually the BEST tab on the market with all features, best form factor, best screen and overall best performance.
Quad Core CPUs are USELESS for Android at this time. Let me repeat that, USELESS! And the Tegra 3 is particularly a joke. The OS and NO APPS can take advantage of it. Good Dual Core is the way to go.
There is plenty of power in the 7.7 as it is and you can overclock it to closer to 2GHz making it a treat! For long time, it will be enough! I still have the original Tab 7 running an overclocked 1.4GHz CPU (from its 1GHz stock speed) and still works amazingly well. The 7.7 compared to it is a rocket.
Sure the Qualcomm S4 and OMAP5 sound sweet though surely Samsung will prefer using it its own Exynos2 in the near future that is "faster" than the current processor on the 7.7 but not so much faster.. definitely will be more energy efficient I think.
So, the 7.7 has plenty or life in it for a long way to come.
If I have any gripes on the 7.7 are the pathetic choices of Samsung sticking with the near 3 year old 3MP camera modules that are on every Tab no matter the new models (its absurd they never got upgraded) and the fact speakers need a bit punchier sound to them..
Other than that the 7.7 is a great Tab, as thin as it can be, feature full and with a screen to die for.
Buy it and love it.
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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K999rrl said:
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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I'm using it. Not all THD games work though. Galaxy on Fire 2 works perfectly though!
mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Congrats!! Well done and enjoy
Spec wars are useless in this era of android...functionality is key. My samsung vibrant can do anything this tablet can...just a bit slower...a new tablet won't be able to do anything that this can't ...but other tablets like the padfone or transformer prime can turn into laptops if that's what you want...
For me...the screen is amazing and its portable to the point that I don't feel like an idiot leaving the house with it...so this is perfect for me
mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Wow you bought the whole shebang, nice!
I think this is the best tablet out yet, (until tomorrow that is ). The hype now of comparing CPU cores is exactly the same as the frequency wars on desktop CPU's a few years ago, and also very much like the sensor pixel count on digital cameras. Up to a point it becomes meaningless and pointless. Its all marketing to hype up a product.
For mobile devices the performance of a device is not solely governed by the CPU. Its the sum of its parts. Its why an iPhone4 (single core) is as responsive and as fast in practical use as a GalaxyS2 (dual core). The Tegra2 was a joke, and it looks like the Tegra3 isn't the messiah its been hyped to be either.
Welcome to the 7.7 club and I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy using the device.
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Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?
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A search is always worth it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503574
I would say it is defiantly still worth it. The portability of the device as many others have said is great. I don't really think there will be many apps that will really need or take advantage of a quad core CPU.
worth it? YES!
if you always wait about new technology, i think you'll buy your first tablet on next 10 - 15years from now.
if Toshiba will release their new product 7.7 which is totally copy from Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, you'll get only shame.
why? for me, follower never better than leader.
who's the Best Leader of 7" in the world? Samsung.
that's why *pple want to make ip*d mini, another brand wants to follow Samsung.
sorry oot
may i know how to setting CF3D at 7.7? i'm afraid about CMW and others. thanks

New Asus Infinity vs Tablet Z vs Asus MemoPad FHD 10 inch

Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-memo-pad-fhd-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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How's their support of this development community coming along? ...
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Asus's tablets have very good devs. In fact they are the reasons why users do not leave Asus for their bad software support.
Trno said:
Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
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Asus is the quickest OEM releasing the new update (yep, crap but quick very near stock one)
Normally the bootloader is unlocked, even locked but not hard to pass.
The Jones said:
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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Yes, IMO it's a good selling point too, but now we still don't know the exact weight of the new Infinity. The dock is great, truely, that's why I bought three Asus tablets (tf201 is a nightmare though)
Definitely some impressive hardware from the new ASUS Infinity. It seems it has a great display as well, as expected from a SuperIPS panel and now at such high resolution. USB 3.0 is a good thing from the dock. $499 (dock included) would be a great price for such specs.
Weight is a big deal, personally. It's a 10.1, which means, if it's a kind of heavy tablet, it would be exhausting to use it for prolonged periods of time. I pre-ordered my XTZ, a week ago, but hasn't arrived yet. I think I'm gonna love it but I can deny that the ASUS Infinity would be a great option to wait for.
hung2900 said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
Trno said:
I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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The New Transformer Pad Infinity is the first in ASUS range of innovative dual-purpose mobile devices to feature a 1.9GHz NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 mobile processor with quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72-core GeForce® GPU. The 10.1-inch LED backlit display has an ultra-sharp 2560 x 1600 resolution with IPS technology for 178-degree wide viewing angles, plus 10-point multi-touch for smooth and responsive fingertip control. ASUS SonicMaster-enhanced audio completes the mobile tablet entertainment experience. The redesigned keyboard dock now features a multi-touch touchpad, USB 3.0 and an SDXC card reader, and gives longer battery life when the tablet is docked.
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Source: Asus
http://press.asus.com/asus-transforms-expectations-for-computing-at-computex-2013/
I have been burned a few times on Asus tablets; the TF 201 had crappy wifi and gps reception, and the Infinity had terrible IO performance which made the tablet stutter badly when doing something like downloading an update, a file, etc. Also, the chassis started to separate from the screen bezel area on mine, and I barely used used it for a couple of months.
I like the innovation and many efforts that Asus makes when trying to do something different; but for me, build-quality is lacklustre. I would certainly wait for a while before going with any Asus tablet to see what the issues for that tablet will be. Perhaps they will grow of out these issues.
Members there is a thread in place for this...>>>>Here.

Nexus 9 is too expensive

The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
tabuser said:
The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
Leonart said:
I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk
What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
lolpok said:
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it

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