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I own an HTC Desire HD but I've been after some form of tablet since before Apple walked in with the iPad. Looking around there's no real choice yet but that's going to change in the next few months. Question is, is the Galaxy Tab with getting now or would you (current owners) wait if you were in my position?
Learning to really love the tab, but with the announcements right around the corner I would wait.
Who knows when they will be available, but at least you can then make an informed decision. Only a couple weeks away to see whats coming.
If tabs are going to wait for honeycomb and if the rumors are true that honeycomb wont be available until may or june, then I would say get it now. 6 months is a long time to wait.
With that said wait for the announcements to find out for sure.
I'd only get the Galaxy Tab if I specifically wanted a 7" form factor. If you're more interested in a 10" tablet, wait for Honeycomb.
Note that it is unlikely that the 10"ers will have a higher resolution.
Galaxy Tab or wait
I think difficult time to make a decision like this, wait or not. My experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab is not bad but I also have an iPad and I prefer iPad for photos, videos and internet access when I am at home, SGT is nice to carry when travel but worst quality screen, worst speed drawing screen, etc. SGT have more flexibility with OS upgrades (XDA Forum), memory card, telephone calls, telecom Data Plans, but overall worst than Apple. SGT is very expensive too.
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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Thanks for your opinions guys and / or girls! I was leaning toward waiting already but then I saw the Galaxy Tab had dropped in price and it made me wonder. £399 for the 32GB version is a lot better than when it launched.
Looking on the Engadget site a few minutes ago there's already news from CES of quite a few better tablets to come. The wait for Android 3.0 is holding things back but I think I'll wait.
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I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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SGT does HD in 7" now
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
That said, 720p mkv files look amazing on the SGT. In my mind, the ability to display colors better is more important than actual vertical resolution. 600p is nothing to sneeze at.
Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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I'll second this. If you want a tablet, go get one and don't worry about what may or may not happen weeks or months from now. I bought one a few days ago and it's been my constant companion since bringing it home. That's actually more than I can say for the iPad because it was so much bigger and heavier that it rarely left the house. The Galaxy Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants, it's light, it's fast, it plays Flash video like a champ...you absolutely won't be sorry.
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Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows, and getting decent prices on Intel Atom processors. Essentially, neither MS nor Intel wanted to cannibalize sales of their higher end OSs and processors, so introduced artificial restrictions on the specs of netbooks.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
I say wait for honeycomb. If then you don't find others that you like better than get the tab. The tab is really great however waiting might pay off.
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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Imagine the pixel density of a 7" screen with a resolution of 1920x1080 or even 1280x720! I am sure they *can* do it but I doubt anyone would want to pay that much for it.
Exactly! The resolution of these devices is not going to change (much, if at all).
Right now I do not think they even CAN do it, as I can find No devices of any type with such a screen. The smallest is the dell XPS at 13.3" (1980x1080) and HP mini note 9" 1280x800, and those are HIGH END devices.
EDIT: I can find displays, but no actual devices.
After seeing all the announcements so far from CES with Honeycomb tablets and 1280x800 resolution on 10.1" displays plus Tegra 2 chips I'm pretty sure that I'll be holding out. As good as the Galaxy Tab looks and might perform I have to wonder if Samsung will bother releasing Honeycomb for it or treating it as an early adopter product that is shelved or sold alongside newer, higher spec systems without future updates.
With that said the size and portability of the Tab would be very tempting at a lower price point, around £200, but I doubt it'll ever go that low.
There were two announcements at CES that caught attention:
Dell Streak 7, a Dell Streak with a 7' screen.
Motorola Xoom 10' with Honeycombe which looks fantastic but no definate release date.
There was also a Lenovo LePad 7'.
The Motorola Xoom really caught my eye too. I hate myself for saying it but even after the shambles of the update process for the Motorola Milestone the Xoom impressed me so much that I could see myself getting one. I'm still very tempted by the Galaxy Tab but I think I'd be setting myself up for a big loss if Samsung drag their heels on a Honeycomb release like their FroYo updates. Given that they likely have new hardware to release as well it gives them even less incentive to update it.
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Here's a few examples!
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_upping_ante_atom_screen_resolution
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10249250-64.html
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about existing netbooks - I see absolutely no point having that sort of resolution on a 7" or 10" device *regardless* of price.
Best I've seen (and had!) was 1600x768 on a 8" Vaio P, and that was over 2 years ago. However, it really was too small for that resolution. One of the reasons that it was more expensive was because it did not fit into either MS or Intels definition of netbook and therefore, had was not permitted to use low cost Windows (Vista at that time), and the Z-series Atoms over the N series.
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
I am planning on keeping my A7, and then ebay-ing it when someone better comes out.. I got mine for $299.. I figure that I could probably get around $200 in return (considering it will be up-to-date, with market enabled and all the trimmings).. I am taking very good care of it so it will be in a brand-new state...
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10... So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I'm leaning toward returning the A7. I love the size and speed... weight and screen are just OK... but the lack of USB-computer connection, unreliable or non-working multitouch, broken Flash, and an inconsistent WiFi is what's making rethink this tablet.
I had the GTab and Archos 10 inch units, which I also returned for different reasons, and I find 7 inches to be the best option. I do wish they made an 8 inch tablet, though...
I'll wait a little longer before I buy another tablet.
I'll echo on the 8" comment, it would still fit in large pockets.
I would only consider 10" tablets as light as the Archos, and it has crippled hardware IMO.
So after much deliberation, I've decided to return the A7 (just finished packing it up today for the UPS guy to come pick it up). It was a really tough decision since I realllllllly love this thing, but I didn't realize how much of a multitouch user I was (in both the apps I use and in the browser) and it was really hard getting used to not having that. I had just fallen in love with Angry Birds when I got the Viewsonic GTab and while I'm glad it finally worked on the A7, its impossible to play when you can't zoom out to see where you're aiming the birds!
The crippled USB port, the bulky form factor and the lower res screen were also deciding factors for me as well. I've decided, instead of getting the A10 (since I just cannot walk around with a 10" device), that I will get the Samsung Galaxy Tab to hold me over until the new line of A7s come out in March.
I'm sure the development on the A7 will only grow until then so it'll be great to come back to that. In the meantime, as I did with the Gtab devs, I will be more than happy to donate to A7 devs for their awesome work (especially Dexter!).
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I got to play with the A10 at CES 2011. I should have the video up tonight on my website. I was excited about eLocity's enthusiasm over their upcoming devices. They look to be well made devices with a price point for almost anyone. The new A7's and A10's will have several different models available with the difference mainly just being the size of internal storage on the devices. The A10 will top out at 256GB and cost $999, with the first model being 4GB and costing $449. All will be Tegra 2 devices and have true multi-touch as well as the highest resolution then on any other upcoming tablet.
Should have the video up tonight...
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Here is the video from CES 2011 of the eLocity A10.
http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/01/15/video-elocity-a10-ces-2011/
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Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.
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Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.
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I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs
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I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs
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Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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cpg716 said:
Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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Hope so... they really should get their specs straight.
Honestly, it won't make much of a difference to me I have a 10" g tablet and a 7" eLocity A7. I don't see another tablet in my future this year.
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.
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Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.
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Not sure they lied about multi-touch? From what I remember this was the mistake of Amazon reporting it was multi-touch. I could be wrong, but thats what I recall happening.
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roebeet said:
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Yes, that confirmed that with me at CES 2011. I will say however the one on the floor didnt blow me away.
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I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.
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I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.
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I do think they have learned from the release of the A7. StreamTV Networks Inc. has several tablets coming out in the eLocity line, plus phone/tablets in 3 and 5 inch sizes, plus 3D Televisions and picture frames.. They have a lot going on... and the eLocity A7 was their debut product.. I think the A10's will be a competitive line.
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Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day
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Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day
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Still not seeing it anywhere...
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I couldn't find any posts that went into detail regarding the differences between the 8.9 and the 10.1.
Am I right in thinking the only difference between the two are the screen size? Obviously, this brings the following implicit differences:
8.9 is lighter
8.9 is smaller (although thickness is the same)
8.9 has a higher pixel density (because screen resolutions are the same).
8.9 being lighter and smaller means it is more portable
8.9 is probably cheaper (this is my guess)
The on-board memory options for both may be different (e.g. the 8.9 may not come in a 64GB option where as the 10.1 may eventually have this option).
Apart from availability of the 10.1 will be sooner than the 8.9, I'm not sure what the benefit is for me to get the 10.1.
I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts?
Size matters (insert joke). Everything else will likely remain the same. get 8.9 if you want something a little more portable, or if you have small hands..
If you want something truly diffrent, wait for the second gen 7" rumored to run Exynos.
You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
$.02: 10.1 vs. 8.9 (vs. 7)
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You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple. Honestly, I when I first saw the 10.1, I thought it was a little small lol; the idea of (that much) less screen real-estate doesn't seem fathomable =) [the lack of TouchWiz was a big selling point for me]
Unless you can do without the extra screen size, I'd go with a 10.1 -if you really don't care about screen size, follow the other gentleman's advice and with the new 7" when it comes out.
Isn't the 8.9 supposed to come out with a thicker screen that's less bright? That was the rumor a few weeks ago. Apparently the manufacturers are having a hard time with the 8.9 screen size and might have to use a thicker, heavier screen.
It's not clear how Samsung plans on handling this. They are having trouble with the yields for the screens on the 8.9, which would seem to indicate that some tablets will get the same screen as the 10.1 while others will get the thicker, less bright screens. It will probably vary by market.
I decided to get a 10.1 after the issues with the 8.9 screens were reported. I could deal with a thicker tablet - after all, the screens themselves are 40% thicker - but how much of the thickness of the total tablet is the actual screen? I would imagine even with the "lesser" screen the 8.9 would come in at under 10mm easily, so no big deal to me. But the 40% reduction is brightness is a big deal to me. That would take it's impact on the battery life, so thanks but no thanks!
WiFi antennas and heat?
I read some where that the 8.9 has only 1 WiFi antenna vs the 10.1 that supposedly has 2...
Don't if that's true and if we will notice much a difference (I suppose we will).
The other thing that would only be speculation on my part, is that maybe the 8.9 could run a little hotter by having less space to dissipate heat?
Any ideas about this?
I'm happy with my screen size. Neitherone is all that portable to be walking around town on a regular basis.
I'd rather have more screen realestate since I'm mostly using it primarily at home.
7" is the way to go for portability, in my opinion.
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By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
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By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I agree, but we're very close right now. Tegra2 has been around for quite awhile, remember?
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I think he has a point. Samsung is taking a long time to get the 8.9 out. I'm sure they're not pleased about this either, however if they take too much longer, then the 8.9 will be competing against the first crop of quad-core Kal-El powered tablets, not to mention the other faster dual core solutions. I don't have any performance issues with the Tegra 2 in my day to day use, but the fact remains that it's not exactly a screamer. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 (and presumably the 8.9) compares favorably when the competition is pretty much just comprised of other Tegra 2 equipped devices, however things won't be so pretty when the competition is leaving the Galaxy Tab in the dust.
However, who knows what the first Kal-El tablets will look like - they may be shoddy and rushed to market for the Holiday season. I just wish Samsung had used something other than the Tegra 2.
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple.
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I disagree. Vanilla OS means no DLNA support, no various video codec support. I want TW for nothing but DLNA (AllShare) and various video codecs that my current Samsung Galaxy S phone already supports, including DIVX. Not to mention the email client (with exchange support) Samsung was able to pack into the Galaxy S phones is 1000% better than Google ever shipped.
The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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That must have been a custom made suit, because the pockets on my suit are not that wide.
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Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-memo-pad-fhd-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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Asus's tablets have very good devs. In fact they are the reasons why users do not leave Asus for their bad software support.
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
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Asus is the quickest OEM releasing the new update (yep, crap but quick very near stock one)
Normally the bootloader is unlocked, even locked but not hard to pass.
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It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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Yes, IMO it's a good selling point too, but now we still don't know the exact weight of the new Infinity. The dock is great, truely, that's why I bought three Asus tablets (tf201 is a nightmare though)
Definitely some impressive hardware from the new ASUS Infinity. It seems it has a great display as well, as expected from a SuperIPS panel and now at such high resolution. USB 3.0 is a good thing from the dock. $499 (dock included) would be a great price for such specs.
Weight is a big deal, personally. It's a 10.1, which means, if it's a kind of heavy tablet, it would be exhausting to use it for prolonged periods of time. I pre-ordered my XTZ, a week ago, but hasn't arrived yet. I think I'm gonna love it but I can deny that the ASUS Infinity would be a great option to wait for.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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The New Transformer Pad Infinity is the first in ASUS range of innovative dual-purpose mobile devices to feature a 1.9GHz NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 mobile processor with quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72-core GeForce® GPU. The 10.1-inch LED backlit display has an ultra-sharp 2560 x 1600 resolution with IPS technology for 178-degree wide viewing angles, plus 10-point multi-touch for smooth and responsive fingertip control. ASUS SonicMaster-enhanced audio completes the mobile tablet entertainment experience. The redesigned keyboard dock now features a multi-touch touchpad, USB 3.0 and an SDXC card reader, and gives longer battery life when the tablet is docked.
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Source: Asus
http://press.asus.com/asus-transforms-expectations-for-computing-at-computex-2013/
I have been burned a few times on Asus tablets; the TF 201 had crappy wifi and gps reception, and the Infinity had terrible IO performance which made the tablet stutter badly when doing something like downloading an update, a file, etc. Also, the chassis started to separate from the screen bezel area on mine, and I barely used used it for a couple of months.
I like the innovation and many efforts that Asus makes when trying to do something different; but for me, build-quality is lacklustre. I would certainly wait for a while before going with any Asus tablet to see what the issues for that tablet will be. Perhaps they will grow of out these issues.
Members there is a thread in place for this...>>>>Here.
Hi All,
Terribly confused - am looking to try Android again after years of being iOS, want to get mid range tab, so the 10.1 A looks about right.
But....Whats with all the 2016, 2017, 2018 after the model numbers? Does it matter, is there any difference?
I am looking at a 32GB Black 2016 10.1 Galaxy Tab A, its showing as the 2016 version, will that be ok?
This is terribly confusing :-/
Cheers!
No diff tbh i have 1 and its brill...
Sent from my galaxy s8
Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.
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Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.
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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/
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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/
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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.
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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.
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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.
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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.
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But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?
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But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?
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OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets. You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone. It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.
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OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets.
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Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone.
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It seems like you need to read my previous post again. I have made a comparison to competing tablets. The comparison to smartphones came as an answer to a guy who seemed to imply that I complain that a 200 dollar Tab A tablet is not as good as an 800 dollar smartphone. Well, in response to him, I gave him an example of a 200 dollar smartphone that slaughters ALL Tab A tablets that exist today (well, except the screen size).
It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.
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It's like saying that 2010 iPhone 4 is still great and will serve its owners for many years more. Now, I don't know what qualifies for the definition of a "throw away" tablet, but from your words I guess you think that if a tablet costs 100 bucks it must be throw away? Ok. But how does it make you feel that the Samsung Tab A tablets have specs of a 80USD throwaway Amazon tablet? I mean seriously, you would throw away a cheap Amazon tablet, but you wouldn't throw away a Samsung Tab A tablet even though it has the same hardware specs but costs about two to three times more?
If you would like to see a fair comparison to tablets, how about Lenovo Tab 4 Plus 8/10? 1080p screen, CPU built on a modern process. Price is about the same. Lenovo gives you a 2016-2018 technology. Samsung is selling you a 2014 spec tablet for a ridiculous price. I don't really know why ANYONE today would buy Samsung Tab A when something like Lenovo Tab 4 (same price, but much better specs), Amazon Fire (same specs, but much cheaper), or Huawei Mediapad M3 exist. Hell, like I have ALREADY mentioned before, even Apple's 2017 iPad slaughters the Samsung Tab A tablets.
I think the main question now is, will Samsung eventually update the Tab A series, or will it just sell off the remaining stock and then cancel the brand? I mean seriously, does this question not linger in anyone's mind? The damn thing hasn't been updated, except cosmetically, since about 2015. My conclusion is that Samsung will abandon this line and will only continue with the more expensive Tab S line.
Ive been thinking of buying a Tab A, or any other mid range 10 inch tablet, ive seen this https://www.xda-developers.com/list-unannounced-2018-samsung-galaxy-devices/ gta2xl – Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 2018 has this been released, or is it still to come?
If it has then im guessing there are better tablets to spend my £230 on??
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Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
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Not sure what the thesis of your post is other than you do absolutely not like the Tab A series
Here's a comparison of the tablets you mentioned: _https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8090&idPhone2=8872&idPhone3=8605
The Amazon Fire at 170 EUR is locked down by Amazon, head over to https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development to feel the pain yourself.
The Lenovo Tab 2 Plus clocks in at EUR 50 more than the Tab A 2016.
That makes the Tab A 2016 still the best value/money tablet with broad dev support in 2018, like it or not.
You will be shocked to learn that there are folks running the latest 2018 software on 2013 hardware and it's completely sufficient for their use cases.
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As an owner of Amazon Kindle Fire, and after reading Akopps's initial reply to this thread, I felt obligated to point out the glaringly obvious - it would be ridiculously foolish to buy an Amazon tablet as an alternative to a Samsung tablet - you cannot install Google Play Store, therefore you cannot install many apps without circumventing Amazon's setup.
A strange comment from a "Senior" forum member ?#!*??