Im conidering a tablet but torn between the ASUS eeePad Transformer and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor, but they're making such a hash of releasing it by all accounts. Hardware specs don't appear to be fully finalised, it appears the thing version won't have a memory card slot, the camera only 3MP and it's still not released and there's no release date for the UK.
The ASUS meanwhile according to the videos I've seen have excellent sound which should be good for media playback.
Im worried about the lack of 3G but remember I could use my Galaxy S as a WiFi hotspot for those times I need to use this on the go.
The ASUS is released, has 3.1, some decent features and a great price.
Is there any reason I should wait for the Samsung and not get the ASUS? Is there any other tablet that comes close for the price? I was looking at the Xoom, and the Flywer and everything in between, but they all seemed to be much more expensive.
What do you guys think?
Does the Eeepad also support DivX playback?
Thanks
Simon
For divx it's ok but for HD videos all the tegra 2 tablets can't handle them very well.
Just want to be sure you won't expect much about it. That said, the transformer has a nice ips screen but with some bleeds (related to ips technology) and a microsd slot. The galaxy tab have no microsd slot.
The sound on the asus is not very good, I can't speak about the galaxy tab on this front.
Performance wise all tegra 2 tablets are more or less the same what you should look at are expansion ports, form factor and screen. So ask yourself what you want.
Hope that helps.
bottom line is if you want android but with an ipad formfactor in the sense of no built in expandibility but thin and light then go samsung.
If oyu want something that is less expensive, had HDMi and microsd built in, is cheaper, and has optional keyboard dock turning it into a longer battery life android netbook with usb ports and full sd card slot, then Go Asus. Asus however will be a bit heavier and thicker and from my experience the build quality will suffer a bit compared to the samsung.
I just read the Anandtech Review on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.The 10.1 wins with its thin form factor, weight and IPAD like contours, while the TF beats out the 10.1 on all benchmarks and battery life and the convenience of the dock.
I'm in the same situation as the OP with regards to the Samsung and the Asus (I've recently returned a TF), I'm now waiting for Samsung to release definitive specs and price here in the UK. I've just returned from my local PC World, they've no news on the GT 10.1 at all. Whilst I was there I had a look at the range of tablets on display and I have to say the Transformer looked better than I remember.
Yep, form factor definatley goes to Samsung, along with build quality.
As for Asus, its still a great looking tablet, and comfortable to hold in my opinion. Has the HDMI, memory card slot, ability to be docked, and is $100 less. Its sort of a no brainer for me, but depends what you want to do with it.
For some of the reasons mentioned by aibo I would wait for a tegra-3 tablet. This is especially true if you are interested in any type of HD media. The more I play with my TF the more I realize the tegra-2 is just underpowered trying to play any kind of HD content with HD sound. Don't get me wrong I love my TF and knowing what I know now if I really wanted to wait I would also wait for a tegra-3 Asus.
See the should I wait for the tegra-3 thread fo even more reasons to wait.
All the more reason to get the Asus. Get base model which is 399. Then next year give it to family or sell it for 200 and get a kalel tegra 3
This way you get to enjoy a tablet for a year and the 100 you save plus selling your used Asus will get you most of the way to the latest and greatest.
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Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor,
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How can the GT have a WOW factor? it's just the same as the Xoom, the Acer Iconia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc unless of course you mean WOW in Greek: Wimadia, Objectori, Wimbararia (The same as all the rest)
In the Galaxy Tab forum you ask
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Galaxy Tab: Is it Worth It?
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Of course it's not; it has a lot less features than the Transformer, it's a no brainer
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How can the GT have a WOW factor?
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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And +$100 more. Is it really worth it? The TF101 is pretty light as it is already.
With +$100 more you can get yourself a TF101 32GB AND A MicroSD slot whereas $499.99 Galaxy Tab 10.1 you'll get 16GB without a MicroSD.
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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I bet you think size 0 women a sexy
Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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I meant more along in this specific thread. Perhaps OP should also post this in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 forums as well as there are some users that have jumped ship from the Transformer to the 10.1 to get others opinions instead of Transformer users that haven't tried the 10.1 yet.
Looks like supercurio is liking the 10.1 according to his tweets.
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
I've owned both and trust me...the weight difference is a major advantage for the Tab...MAJOR!
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
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Not entirely true. It's just not built in. Sure you'll have to buy the adapter for it, but it is indeed expandable.
no hdmi is a deal breaker also.
Does samsung tab support dlna?
I am considering to go for transformer.
price was the big thing for me. $100 is a good chunk of money for something of similar specs.
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I bought the Xoom Sunday without contract, and I am debating on returning it and wait for the Samsung's 10.1 tab. I really like my xoom, I haven't had any big issues with my xoom but I don't like how there is like nothing for honeycomb yet. I read about people having problems with hd videos because of the processor. The Samsung is suppose to have a better screen and a better rear camera.
I would like other peoples opinions on "should I return my xoom?"
Outside of the screen and camera those are really the only two differences. Aesthetics also i guess.
Samsung has shown they turn their back on recent devices, for me I love the xoom
After hearing from multiple sources that the GTab 10.1 feels like a cheap plastic iPad I don't even care about it anymore. I also heard the "aluminum" rim around it was painted plastic. Of course, this is all personal preference... but I don't like the negativity surrounding this thing's build quality.
If the screen is that much better, then maybe I will reconsider.
some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)
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some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)
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I guess that just changed my mind. I had no idea that it was missing all that stuff.
Thanks.
Thought the Xoom had better viewing angles than the Galaxy 10.1? Xoom also isnt plastic, another plus for it. Does the Galaxy 10.1 come with an unlockable bootloader?
Ugh... What Honeycomb tablet will be crowned king? =/
I think for the next few months the Xoom just wins~
for me it's definitely xoom, though admittedly I would want a lighter tablet.
What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.
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What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.
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Afraid they're going to charge a premium for the 3D ability of it (3D screen and extra camera means more $$). I think the 8.9" formfactor might be nice but I don't see it being any more stelar than GT10.1 or Xoom, and it might cost just as much or more.
Samsung stated that after the iPad 2 came out with its specs and price, they needed to "re-evaluate" their pricing and components on the Galaxy Tab 10.1. This means we might see a cheap version of it, which makes it more appealing to me. Some of the shortcomings I can live with (no HDMI is fine with me), but some things like no MicroSD is just a deal breaker unless i can buy a 64GB GT10.1 for the same price as a 32GB Xoom. I don't care about the plastic back, if it makes it lighter and is relatively sturdy, I'm okay with that.
Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!
Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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Yes. I think I'm going with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too. Only disappointment with it is, the 3 MP rear camera, a price to pay for the thinness. But, on the positive side, it has Divx/Xvid support too, so hopefully should not have video playback issues, as on Xoom.
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Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!
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Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ
I guess if you're willing to wait till June to get the exact same specs (besides the screen.. and the missing hdmi and microusb ports.) then go for it.
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Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ
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Yea but we have XDA. I guess it won't be long, before someone figures out a way or a ROM to pull it out
I know this falls in the endless wait for the next version circle but if nVidia can indeed deliver tablets with Quad Core Kal-El by August, I would feel bad waiting up to June (potentially July/August for Canadians).
I believe I will be picking a Wifi XOOM at launch in Canada (April 8).
XOOM Pros:
- The highest quality finish so far.
- HDMI out port
- Micro USB port
- Unskinned
- Relockable bootloader
- Currently the closest to a Dev device and most likely to receive the most AOSP love
- Available now (next week Wifi)
XOOM Cons:
- Heavy
- Screen is slightly sub par according to most
- Power button placement (not a big deal but still...)
- No 16 or 64 gig models (altough the 64Gb is kinda irrelevant when SD card is available)
- No USB charging (minor again as it would take long to charge, potentially fixed with custom ROM)
To me the Pros offset the Cons. I see two choice with Android tablets: Be an early adopter and get the XOOM, wait around Christmas for quad core/better speced/better priced/polished and stable 3.X.
Competition is just starting to heat up, once HTC, Sony, RIM, HP, MS release their product, most of which should be somewhere this summer except for maybe MS, we will start to see what the tablet market actually looks like.
I was talking to my wife about tablets when the iPad2 was just announced. I told her about the weight and size and her reply was "Why does everything always have to be thinner and lighter!??!" There you go. I'm happy with the Xoom and once I have this awesome PivotPad I won't have any problems with holding it anymore! Maybe in the future there will also be a solution to the video decoding issues...
The main reason I wanted to go for Samsung was the fact it was going to be a Google experience device and now they pull this Touchwiz crap.
Just returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1v to Vodafone Ireland.. had it a total of 3 days.. received 2pm Monday by 9am this morning.. the glass was lifting from the body of the tab at the bottom Left Hand corner.. the glue wasn't holding up.. if it was that bad after 3 days there was no way I was gonna keep it..
I've asked for a full refund.. I might wait now for the 10.1 release or try the Eee Pad Transformer..
Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
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same here.. it sucks. hopefully nothing too serious happens
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what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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you forgot some poinz:
pros of the tab:
much better display
better built quality
thinner
winner
from what I've seen, the display on the transformer is pretty good. maybe not as good as the galaxy tab but still. and I don't know about the build quality.. my i/o tab is all cheap plastic(just like everything samsung makes) and it's already coming apart(see last post). however, it is thinner. I will give you that one. The 10.1v isn't, but the 10.1 is. I was kind of including that as part of the weight thing though. I don't see the thinness being a big advantage. it's not like I'm going to be keeping it in my pocket or anything. maybe that's just me though.
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I had a Transformer and returned it in anticipation for the Galaxy Tab. However here are some of the pros I see with the Transformer.
+ $100 cheaper
+ microSD slot (might have to buy an expensive 3G Galaxy Tab for micro SD)
+ mini HDMI port
+ micro USB port
+ Keyboard dock converts tablet to netbook and extends battery to 16 hours.
I'm giving up a lot just for the Galaxy Tab's lighter weight and sleeker look. I think the Transformer is just ugly. I hope the Galaxy Tab is worth it.
But I'm about to cancel my JR.com pre-order. Think I might be safer just buying it from Best Buy in case this turns out to be yet another tablet that doesn't live up to expectations and has to be returned.
Hate to say it, but I want a tablet that feels like it's quality built. The Xoom felt quality, just way too heavy. The Transformer felt and looked cheap. The Samsung GT looks quality, but... crossing my fingers. Hope these Android manufactures don't make me go out and buy an iPad 2 after all this waiting.
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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You forgot the all important
2. Has 3G
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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I hate sounding like one of "those" people, but if I have a laptop then why would I want a keyboard for my tablet? Anyway, that's my personal preference and I understand it's a big reason people want the transformer, but for $150 more it's just out of the question for me.
Ports? The tab, while it does not have specific HDMI/USB ports, will have HDMI & USB connectors. Unfortunately you'll have to shell out some bucks (I'd guess around $30) for an HDMI connector.
The official (non-IO model) 10.1 may have an SDCard slot, but no one knows for sure, yet.
Weighs less and you missed that it is much thinner. Form factor is huge when it comes to a device that you're holding during 90% of its usage.
I dunno -- if the tab wasnt coming out I would be getting a Transformer. I'm just not sold after seeing the transformer in action.
And as an Android enthusiast it pains me to say this, but having TouchWiz layered over Honeycomb may boost the user-experience. I played with the Xoom for a week and really thought that if a manufacturer layered a UI/UX over top of Honeycomb it would have been a MUCH better experience.
So build quality issues like all the other tablets out there now...check
Can't play hi def video like all the other android tablets out there now..check
iPad2 here I come!!! Just gotta find a good microsoft office app and it is the perfect tablet! Definitely superior to all the current tablets or there now (please don't quote hardware specs, if the hardware and software worked well together there wouldn't be all these threads out on android tablet forums)
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Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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weighed mine on digital kitchen scales 574g.. anyway at the beginning of the thread i said was gonna go for the transformer... after watching hundreds of youtube videos on it.. I have changed my mind.. will wait and see what the 10.1 is like in terms of quality and price (3G version when it's out)
I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.
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I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.
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For longevity and superior hardware, stick with SGT. Also the speakers and display on SGT is better than any current tablet in the market. Rest is up to you to decide which one you want to keep.
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Ive owned both and the transformer was a piece of junk in my opinion. Terrible build quality issues that went unaddressed (returned three times and still didn't have one that worked properly). The build quality is loads better on the galaxy tab, well worth the difference in price in my opinion.
I went through 5 Transformers because of light bleeding before giving up and purchasing a Galaxy Tab ($50 off...thanks Staples).
I still don't hate the Transformer. I think it would be a fantastic device if there weren't build quality issues.
I can say (as unbiased as I can) that the GT is better than the Transformer. The screen is noticeably better and the speakers are MUCH louder on my GT than any of the Transformers I had. The quality of the GT is much better and my GT has no light bleed whatsoever.
While it still annoys me that Samsung didn't put a microSD card slot on it, I think the other areas more than make up for this.
By the way, whoever at Samsung made the decision not to put a microSD slot on the GT should be fired. Such a small addition would have put the GT way out in front for best tablets IMHO. With no microSD card, its like they gave up just a few inches from the finish line.
Im with you on the sd card. But not a deal breaker for me
Sgt is so much better than the other tablets and you can always go to the store and compare them and yeah the sd card would have being a nice addittion
Light or heavy. That'a the question.
I owned the TF (well, 3 problematic ones) and currently own the GT (haven't looked back). Basically, if you're willing to put up with build quality issues (trust me, your TF WILL have something wrong with it), then you can even start comparing the two.
Bottom line is, if you already own a laptop/netbook, get the GT. The TF shines when docked, and even then, it falls short of the entry-level netbook (software issues).
I've had 2 TFs, one with power button sticking issues and other with microSD card reader issues.
Both returned and waiting for my tab to come soon.
TF was pretty dispointment as in quality control. What are the odds of getting bad ones back to back? (and the troubles I went through returning and getting new ones) I would think very hard before buying any ASUS products now and on.
I couldn't say much about the tab yet since I'm still waiting for it.
I have a transformer with no build issues. The asus is a little wider, a little thicker, and a little heavier than my SGT. But it runs the same apps just as well, and was $100 less than the SGT. Kind of like the iPad 1 to the SGT being an iPad2 in dimensions, yet the Asus has a better rear camera, microSD, and that great keyboard dock as an accessories.
I have both tablets and the only thing I like better about the transformer is the sd card. I got one of the better built transformers, with my only complaint being a small amount of light bleed in one corner, but I still do not trust the build quality of it in the long run. I returned a xoom (staples didn't have any galaxy tabs in stock at the time) to get the tab and plan to sell the transformer and rebuy another xoom before the staples $100 off deal ends. The xoom feels like it is a much higher quality piece of hardware, and I am willing to deal with the extra weight and slightly less vibrant screen for what I feel is a better built device.
So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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Yeah same question. My brother is considering the xoom since i already have the SGT. SHould he?
I chose the GT after 3 exchanges on the Asus. The GT screen is just so much better than the xoom and I like that its thin and light Asus and xoom are pretty heavy.
I can't comment on ASUS vs SGT, but as for the Xoom vs SGT you really have to decide what you're going to be using the tablet for.
Xoom is going to give you 2x flash space for the same money, plus the device is expandable with an SD card, HDMI, and USB host plugs. And as others have mentioned, the Xoom is built like a tank compared to other tablets.
That being said, the screen on the SGT is amazing. Go to staples and compare, you'll see. The Xoom will look washed out, whereas the SGT will be bright and vibrant. The SGT is also super thin and light. If you plan on holding your tablet a lot, this is important.
I went with the SGT because I don't need the HDMI and USB ports. I also don't put much media on it because I stream everything, so the flash space and SD card are all but useless to me. And lastly, I've very careful with my devices. My phones have always gone naked and have never had a screen scratch, thus I choose light weight and thinness over stronger materials. The only selling point of the Xoom that was appealing to me over the SGT is the fact that it is the Nexus of the tablets and will see Android updates years before we do.
Bottom line? Xoom or SGT, you'll be happy either way
SGT
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A buddy of mine has had both and he said the Transformer was crap.
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I have the sgt and my broter has the xoom. I personaly like the sgt better because it is ligter, the speekers are better and the screen looks less washed out. Although with the xom you get much more space to put movies and music on.
I was considering both but after the stories I've heard about the Asus I was swayed with the SGT. The build quality issues on the Asus deterred me from getting that one wasn't going to risk having to go through 1+ devices to find the perfect one, saying that the SGT could prove to be the same, here's hoping there is nothing wrong with it when it arrives.
GTab 32GB $529.99 on eBay right now. Brand new! Just saw it under my daily deals. LOL You guys are lucky.
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Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
Swyped from my Samsung Epic 4g Touch with a bite of VeNuM.
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Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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how much is it?
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how much is it?
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$399
10 char
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$399
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wtf??? 399.
worth a trade lmfao
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Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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That's what I'm waiting for. I love my 3G Tab and the only thing that (for me) needs improvement is a more powerful processor. For taking notes and such at work the S-Pen's also a cool and practical feature. It's been delayed until June so Samsung can put a new quad-core Exynos SoC in and I'm hoping they bump up the display resolution while they're at it.
I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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You can pre-order both the Acer A510 and new non-Prime Transformer (TF300) that has a plastic back cover and shouldn't have wireless issues. They're $449 and $399 respectively with the Acer being the more upscale of the two. Asus' build quality and QC have been sketchy and I haven't really followed Acer to offer any opinion. Costco's got some good deals on the G-Tab 1 and a ninety day return policy which should fall in to the launch timeframe for the Note.
Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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Sadly, I think you are right. I will have to be patient and wait and see what happens next. I guess with Google IO coming up soon the emphasis will be completely on JellyBean and ICS will be obsolete already by the time summer comes around.
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When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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The original Tab 10.1 is getting ICS. Samsung have confirmed it at several different points in time. WHEN will we get it, that's another story, but it's coming. It's being worked on. They even said that it was number 2 on the their priority list, right behind the GS II which has already started it's ICS rollout globally. It can't be that far away
So if you factor out ICS as an advantage (which you should), the only two things the Tab 2 has over the Tab 1 are the modified speaker positions and debatably the microSD storage (I say that because the storage sizes are halved on the Tab 2). Everything else that's different on the Tab 2 is a disadvantage.
Sorry to say, but it's the truth. And that 399 price point doesn't make it any easier to swallow, especially when you consider that if you can be patient for another couple of months, you'll have a huge selection of Tegra 3 tablets at all different sizes, all different price points, made by different companies.
Believe me, I'm not hating here. I got my Tab 10.1 last July and I absolutely love it. But right now, if 300 or 400 is my sweet spot for a tablet, I'm holding off for a couple of months. The Tab 2 isn't worth that.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH...wow!!! effing samsung..
screw this..selling it and getting the asus prime
I would also hold off for the note 10.1... Better hardware AND the s-pen will give it functionality that no other tab has. I have tried the regular note (5.3) and the pen works very well, very cool to jot down stuff quickly or to add comments/notes to documents.
Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I bet they are having problems they will have a even bigger one if they don't get there arses into first gear people will migrate to other tablets.This is just another sorry excuse to buy some more time which they dont have and now where does this leave those of us waiting for ic4.0 to come to 10.1 user?
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Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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Probably. That's why I took mine back.
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I'm keeping my 10.1 4G, which it bought used for less than $300. I'll probably still get the GT 2 7.0 for $250 though, since it's wifi only.
Hi guys,
I really like what I read about the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.1. My personal preferences in the tablet: do care about thickness, weight, IPS screen, screen size, battery life, build quality, future Android updates, storage expansion (somewhat); don't really care about: things like pen input; 1280x800 vs. 1920x1200 resolution, ability to make phone calls from.
So, I've noticed that there are a couple of contenders out there (or very soon to be released):
1 - IdeaTab S2110; currently out; similar specs 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; similar battery performance(?); no MicroSD card; v4.0.x; only $399
2 - MediaPad 10 FHD; out in August supposedly; 1920x1200 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; v4.0.x; under $500 is what I've read
Both offer an optional keyboard which not only extends the battery life but also adds some extra ports, and MicroSD one for IdeaTab.
So, *with* the above criteria, why would someone pick the upcoming Note 10.1 over those and perhaps similar contenders? Or may be I can phrase it differently: why would *you* pick Note 10.1 over all other choices?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Easy that one. It's by Samsung. As much as people like to ***** about their support its still better than a lot of the smaller players in the tablet game. They have now built a ton of android devices and are getting pretty dang good at it.
I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
From here on in Samsung's getting my loyalty until other manufacturers stop being jerks to the modding community.
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I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
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Thanks. Yeah, I don't appreciate shenanigans like that either. "Upgradeability" is high on my last as well, which I didn't mention. That's why I didn't actually include Toshiba Excite there, which supposedly comes with a locked bootloader. I hear Lenovo is so-so about providing timely/any updates either. So, that one may be out as well. Don't know much about Huawei tbhwy.
Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.
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Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.
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Thanks.
Mod(s) should probably move this thread to Note forum.
Why would they move it? Hmm.
I'd like a ten inch tablet after having a few sevens. Never had a ten. I think I'd like it more.
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Why would they move it? Hmm.
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There is a Galaxy Note dedicated forum now and when I posted it originally there wasn't any.