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G'day guys,
I've decided to buy me a tablet for the FIRST time....did a little bit of research and found that the Galaxy Tab is looking the best so far in the market before the Quad-cores ones come out.
Apart from being the thinnest and lightest tablet in the market, compare to other tablets, how is the performance? I have also heard that its screen is also the brightest and most vibrant.
Is this tablet considered to be quite old now?
Any other pros and cons?
THANKS!
If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
Klk450 said:
If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
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How much more will those tablets be when they come out? Because I don't think I'm going to spend that much money on my first tablet as I have recently upgrade my Streak to a GNote
The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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He means GB not MB, One Mb of ram couldnt run a calendar widget.
thanks guys...I think you are both right....I am going to prob wait for the 2nd generation of tablets....especially with the price of the transformer prime being less than $500
I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
nymviper1126 said:
I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
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What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Thats what I am hoping for. But the specs say only 100gs heavier, same thickness. Mine is mostly for school and work, so it would make more sense to have a more productive device(s-pen is the reason we all love this tablet, isnt it?)
mitchellvii said:
It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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It also depends on what your weighting of various features are. Obviously running native MS Office and Outlook is a huge benefit as is SharePoint access and OneNote. At the end of the day it's still a Windows PC which, unless things change dramatically, aren't very good consumption devices. I replaced my HTPC with Google TV's for the simplicity and broader content support. If you use your tablet for consumption in the 30% and below range W8 is probably a better choice. I'm probably about 60% consumption 40% productivity and am fine with Android for now. And it's not like you have to buy a W8 Pro device on the day they come out or lose the opportunity. Having suffered through V1 of plenty of h/w and s/w there's something to be said for letting others go first. And here’s hoping that with the introduction of a Windows-based version of S-Note that Samsung comes up with a way of sharing what’s created with Android S-Note with Windows-PC’s.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
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People use common sense. If it is going to have an Intel CPU, a larger HD screen and pen input it is going to cost MUCH more. Those components aren't free.
If a tablet had the same components as a $1000 ultrabook and includes pen input it is going to cost what an ultrabook costs. It won't be $500.
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Be happy with what you got and when that bridge is there to be crossed in reality then decide to cross it or not. I love my note!
When you are driving your new BMW don't look at every Porsche that drives by costing $30k more and wring your hands saying, "Oh I should have gotten that for what I paid for this!"
Just enjoy your BMW.
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Well, I was peeking too, BUT I have to see it, feel it, touch it before I would consider a FULL Win8 Tab (NOT RT-version which does not have any benefit over Android).
It has to endure easily 12 hours like my N10.1 and has to perfom in the same smoothness and reliability.
I am an "early adopter" but with Win8 I have to read a lot of reports and see a lot of hardware tests before it convince me to buy a Win8-slate.
It is so much at the beginning, will be full of bugs and promises of added functionality in the FUTURE that I will wait for the official "Surface"-Tab and then compare to the Win8-Sammy-Tab and then maybe in one year decide upon a Win8-Tablet when "Surface 2" will be issued.
Yes, I love my Note i-717 and 10.1. i will be waiting for the livestreams that stat in 2.5 hrs for the Note 2.
I did use my note 10.1 in class yday9marketing) and the professor mention apple and he made me show the whole class the note and I explain how the patent messed up our S-Memo! I did copy the part of the sylabus where it states to write your preferend name, occupation and picture, then took one with my FFC and sent it to him during class. So yes I love it.
The car analogy is a good one. I have an 04 Q45 premium(had an 03 as well, RIP) and it still holds it own vs alot of newer cars. Do i sometimes desire a 7 series? yes, but i dont have 750Il money..Andi dont driver people around for a living(I have reclining rear seats). But i do use this device for my work email as well. It would be very impressive when i go to all the major banks during pricing etc and just whip out my Note and mark up the pdf that takes them forever to print, hand out, then revise to print out again. I would love to do some modeling in excel as well, Polaris seems a bit too clunky to do it seriously.
The thing is people like myself are the first to actually be productive with a device other than a BB. Its scary to those around who dont understand, and needs flawless execution or people wont see the point. My boss litterally was upset that i have my work email on my note, cuz they also gave me a BB. But im in a very small group that is testing out the system.
I will probally keep the note 10.1 and try and convice them to buy me the Series 5 for work. have to show its worth first though. Hopefully once the Wifi in the building is up, people will see a tablet can be much more than an iPad. Time will tell.
Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
shinzz said:
Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
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I may be returning the note and repurchasing until this comes out so i may still return if this is a better product. The width seems a bit much, but like i said, it seems to add MUCH more capability(you can run android on windows anyway) for $100 more? Why wouldnt I want to?
It never ends does it lol.
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jjdevega said:
It never ends does it lol.
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I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
nymviper1126 said:
I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
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Lol, expected to be on 9hr+ battery life on single charge. See how it goes once it gets released.....
Otherwise, FULL OS with x86..... & Galaxy Note 10.1 apps..... (and if you really think about it.. if Note 10.1 has 64gb.. it will only be $50 more...)
Only disappointment from IFA so far... lack of Samsung's A15 dual-core SoC. I was expecting Samsung's WinRT tab to be on A15 SoC.. but bleh.. it is on S4 dual-core. Not that I was going to purchase the A15 WinRT tab.... but... yea, was hoping to see that SoC to make a presence in some form of h/w.
There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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As far as I understand.. it does....
Also comes with USB 3.0 support I believe (at least on the keyboard dock.. i think)...
With $650 as the base price for 64gb SSD model ... I think we can expect other OEMs to release their W8 tablets around $550 to $600 range (don't think any of them will be priced higher over Samsung or Sony for that matter).... This is the price range I expected for the Clovertrail tablets & it's a great value. Now.. since none of us have one in hand.. we won't know how it will actually perform in the real world yet... but that's serious potential with great value.
As for WinRT tablets.... I should expect a $400 price range... but with W8 Clovertrail/Trinity tablets being around $550 to $650 range... & with very very limited ecosystem... I don't expect that to do well at all.
Btw, I don't think Series 7 or any other i5+ W8 tablets are worth the money. Cost too much... & for that.. to do serious work, you really need a bigger screen. Series 7 & other Intel i5+ tablets also have "fan" included with crap battery life (will weight just as much as ultrabook with keyboard dock).... not much benefit over Ultrabooks. Better to purchase Ultrabooks over i5+ W8 tablets.... W8 Ultrabooks will come in Touchscreen, Discrete GPU, much more storage... & can expand the RAM if needed (cheaper too).
I think the Series 5 throws a HUGE wrench into the works.
What's the point in a Note 10.1, when for a few dollars more I can have the same WACOM stylus input on a Windows machine that gets the same battery life and has 100% MS Office compatibility?
I purchased the Note 10.1 as an e-ink device, to go paperless. This device works, but I am always having to take extra steps to get documents synced to the cloud. I want an all-in-one solution that is seemless, integrated with MS Word, and doesn't cost $1k+.
What advantage does the Note 10.1 have over this new Series 5 other than a $150.00 cheaper pricepoint?
I hope the user experience isn't too terrible with the Atom CPU like it was with netbooks. Unless I specifically need x86 compatibility I'm not too excited about returning to the bloat, unreliability, poor user experience, relatively mediocre battery life, heat output, high maintenance, etc. of Windows. Plus, I use Google Voice for SMS and calls so the GN 10.1 is constantly running in low power with great battery life. My Thinkpad with 8-cell high capacity battery seems to drain a lot faster just being in hibernate doing absolutely nothing.
It sounds good, but I can guarantee the price will make it non-competitive with the Note 10.1. Same with the Surface tabs when they come, I can practically guarantee the Surface Pro (the only model that can really compete with the N8013) will be $700-1000.
I was strongly considering a Surface tablet before jumping on the Note 10.1 ship but I'm more than happy with the N8013, it does everything I need it to do and nothing more and nothing less. Anything more, I have my laptop. Anything less and I'd have just bought an iPad again.
I am a Note II owner and love the phone. Then I really felt like buying an Android tablet. I went and got me Asus Transformer Infinity yesterday & boy Do I regret!! I just put an ad to sell it 100$ off price just to get rid of it & get a Note 10.1 !
Here's what pissed me off. Its a ***** to get the bootloader unlocked. You gotta use Asus unlocker tool & their servers dont respond. its been 48 hrs almost and still no luck.
Theres like only 1 or 2 costume roms available for it and for that this needs to be unlocked.
What pissed me off most that it had only 1gig ram. I thought since it was pricier then a Note 10.1 then its probably at least the same specs.
And damn is it laggy! I guess it could be the ICS' fault and that the JB for it will be smoother but right now it cant be compared to smoothnes of my Note phone at all!
The charger connector is also not standard mini usb which sux and the keyboard for it is too pricey!
One thing I was really looking for was to play Tegra 3 games on it & of the 5 games I tried only 1 was not buggy!
anyways... from what Ive seen from the Note 10.1 dev forum it looks just as promising as my NoteII.
so if anyone here thinks I am making a mistake or something I missed plz let me know.
donno why I even bothered buying this. I was so happy with my Note2. It would have been logical to get another galaxy product!
It was an expensive lesson I even ordered a screen protector for it which costs 30bux inc shipping!
I think you're making the right decision, but....
You should know that the Note 10.1 also doesn't use a mini-usb plug. It's also proprietary.
Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
I would wait.
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is. Based on your post,
you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand. Keep in mind:
The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
blud7 said:
Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
I would wait.
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is. Based on your post,
you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand. Keep in mind:
The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
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That's a bit of an overstatement?
No one is saying the Note 10.1 is perfect.
Well, about the lag, the Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all - yes, I'm not saying this just because I own one, it's because it doesn't lag at all.
It's fast and fluid, and with the correct use, it will blaze at an amazing speed.
It has already many custom ROM's available and it's hack-friendly. Samsung releases the open-source very often for their devices.
Oh, and about the updates, Samsung was actually quick to bring in Jelly Bean. It makes your Note 10.1 be twice as fast (in some cases).
You can also have a plethora of keyboards (non-OEM) that are cheap, and some even turn to be covers as well.
All in all, it's a pretty nice buy, but if the non-standard charger/connector is a no-GO, then it's a don't buy this. This tab uses the proprietary connector.
ricardosteve said:
That's a bit of an overstatement?
No one is saying the Note 10.1 is perfect.
Well, about the lag, the Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all - yes, I'm not saying this just because I own one, it's because it doesn't lag at all.
It's fast and fluid, and with the correct use, it will blaze at an amazing speed.
It has already many custom ROM's available and it's hack-friendly. Samsung releases the open-source very often for their devices.
Oh, and about the updates, Samsung was actually quick to bring in Jelly Bean. It makes your Note 10.1 be twice as fast (in some cases).
You can also have a plethora of keyboards (non-OEM) that are cheap, and some even turn to be covers as well.
All in all, it's a pretty nice buy, but if the non-standard charger/connector is a no-GO, then it's a don't buy this. This tab uses the proprietary connector.
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+1 on that add also the multiwindow option /svoice /airview /front stereo speakers and n8000 model can do gsm calls and allot more, i used note II for like a week before buying note 10.1 and personally i think spen on 10.1 is some what more senstive and more ergonomic, something to note also the spen can work as a mouse in web browser to review links, etc and scroll
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did you vote yes or no ?
hoss_n2 said:
+1 on that add also the multiwindow option /svoice /airview /front stereo speakers and n8000 model can do gsm calls and allot more, i used note II for like a week before buying note 10.1 and personally i think spen on 10.1 is some what more senstive and more ergonomic, something to note also the spen can work as a mouse in web browser to review links, etc and scroll
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did you vote yes or no ?
I got my Note last Friday and can say that I love it. The quad core and 2GB of RAM keeps it fast and responsive, something I can't say about my first gen Android tablet that this replaces. I'''ll upgrade my Android phone next year once I see which LTE may come to my area; however, I know it will have similar specs to the Note.
toofank said:
I am a Note II owner and love the phone. Then I really felt like buying an Android tablet. I went and got me Asus Transformer Infinity yesterday & boy Do I regret!! I just put an ad to sell it 100$ off price just to get rid of it & get a Note 10.1 !
Here's what pissed me off. Its a ***** to get the bootloader unlocked. You gotta use Asus unlocker tool & their servers dont respond. its been 48 hrs almost and still no luck.
Theres like only 1 or 2 costume roms available for it and for that this needs to be unlocked.
What pissed me off most that it had only 1gig ram. I thought since it was pricier then a Note 10.1 then its probably at least the same specs.
And damn is it laggy! I guess it could be the ICS' fault and that the JB for it will be smoother but right now it cant be compared to smoothnes of my Note phone at all!
The charger connector is also not standard mini usb which sux and the keyboard for it is too pricey!
One thing I was really looking for was to play Tegra 3 games on it & of the 5 games I tried only 1 was not buggy!
anyways... from what Ive seen from the Note 10.1 dev forum it looks just as promising as my NoteII.
so if anyone here thinks I am making a mistake or something I missed plz let me know.
donno why I even bothered buying this. I was so happy with my Note2. It would have been logical to get another galaxy product!
It was an expensive lesson I even ordered a screen protector for it which costs 30bux inc shipping!
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I'm done with ASUS, too...
TF700 has a superb display, and thats about it...mine was laggy,too. OTA wouldn't work, so i did an unlock using ASUS's unlock-tool, tried to update with TWRP and downloaded update.zip - would't work either but kept the tablet in a bootloop. ASUS of course refuses warranty because unlock, tries to charge me repaircosts 90% of a brandnew device - come on guys, kidding??? Sold the keyboard, bought the note 8010, fast and smooth with root and Team Union Jelly Bean...an expensive lesson for me, too...
I'm not bashing the Note. I have the phone and the tab as well and love both.
I'm commenting on the op's qualms about the choice he made, which he regrets.
All I'm saying is the op obviously didn't do any research before buying. Some of the
stuff he hates about the Asus TF are also present with the Note. Which means he
is still making the same mistake of not researching.
The reason I said he should keep it is cuz he seems to be guilt-tripping over a perfectly
good purchase. That and he's going to sell his perfectly good tab and be out $100 bucks
because of it.
And you're making a point of there being cheaper docks for the Note 10.1.
Cheaper dock options are also available for the TF700.
And no, the note does NOT have LOTS of ROMs but dev is heading there. On that subject
I was saying that if he waits, dev will get better for the TF.There are ~20 custom ROMs
on xda for the TF700 and less than ten for the Note 10.1. Two or three for the WiFi only devices.
I still also maintain that Samsung drags its feet when it comes to updates.
The TF had JB since October. As of writing this there still is no JB for the N8013, no
leak, no official. Asus is in fact known for their frequent updates.
The tab has quality control issues as I well. I had to return the first one I bought since
the screen was defective. If you read up, this very forum will confirm that I was not alone
in this. Some report lag with the software. Asus is well known for having poor quality
control though.
With all that said, I considered both tabs when buying, did my research and bought the
Note. I love the one I have now and don't regret it at all. It is amazingly good despite any reviews
saying this or that is better.
I've had both and the Note is a better choice (for me at least). A lot less lag and more options. I have the OG note for my phone and have it running stock android. I much prefer touchwiz on the 10.1. Multi window is awesome and I actually use the IR blaster a lot more than I thought I would. Lots of cool features that vanilla android doesn't offer. I vote Note
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Since the Note and N10 have come out the TF700 forum has become a ghost town. Picture tumbleweed. Scott Crossler, the magician who made the TF700 usable, is no longer supporting it. Others are trying to keep up his work but picture "Otto Pilot" from the movie Airplane. Asus has done little or no marketing for the TF700 and it's just sort of floating out there. Asus’ Q3 sales of 10.1" tablets was actually down year-over-year.
Here's my elevator conversation summary of the three most talked about Android tablets:
Note 10.1 - It's the most complete tablet available (any OS) and has unique features like multiview, inking via a Wacom digitizer with palm rejection, S-Note, and a slew of Samsung developed features not available elsewhere that make it a joy to use. It's powerful, has JB (kind of), has great sounding front mounted speakers, gets above average battery life, and has a great display with decent (for Samsung) color accuracy, good contrast, and is nicely bright. There are two downsides and they apply mostly to consumption-only buyers. The 720P display isn't as good on text and computer generated graphics as higher PPI tablets and all the things that make the Note great at creation and productivity add a lot of complexity for people that aren't going to use those features. It's also available with 3G and when so equipped it doubles as a giant phone. The only tablet I'd consider replacing my Note with is another Note with a higher PPI display.
N10 - I, like many people, saw the specs for the N10 before it was released and thought it was "game over" for all other 10.1" Android tablet makers. As it turns out the N10 is a "value" tablet not a "high-end" tablet. It has the highest PPI of any tablet on the planet but it's fairly dim, is pretty warm, and has just average contrast. The number of N10's reported with light bleed on their displays is pretty shocking (at any price) for a Samsung-built tablet. The N10's A15 SoC is state-of-the-art and kick-ass powerful. But, because of the mammoth PPI it's powering, it's no more powerful than the Note. It also has a bizarre quasi-phone UI which wastes a tremendous amount of display real estate and looks awkward on a 10" tablet. It's "Pure Google" which is fantastic for updates but, feature wise, it's a barren wasteland compared to the features bundled with TW. Battery life is below average and recharging time is six hours. The N10 is a great consumption device for the price. And that's about it.
TF700 - The Infinity is nothing more than a gussied up Prime which means its design is over a year old. It's also using a Teg3 SoC whose design is eighteen months old and at the end of its useful life and now used primarily in budget devices. It has no 5GHz Wi-Fi, uses single channel memory (the Note and N10 are dual channel), has 1GB of RAM, has IO issues that Asus has made famous, and is built using outdated components that, in a lot of cases, are from second-tier manufacturers (EG: AzureWave Wi-Fi radios). Asus' QC is dreadful, their repair center in TX horrible, and to unlock the bootloader you agree to completely void your warranty. There are a couple of things that are unique and, IMHO, the only reason people should be looking at a TF700. They are: the keyboard which also extends battery life, expandable storage, and the Super IPS display that makes it great for outdoor use. Someone only looking for PPI is better off with a N10.
So, as someone above said, no tablet's perfect. Of the three, I think living with the Note's perfectly acceptable but lower PPI display involves the least amount of compromise. For someone wanting/needing a higher PPI the N10's a decent choice and a good value. For someone who has to have a keyboard and/or higher PPI and expandable storage there's the TF700. But based on it and Asus' history, declining sales, and price, you're probably better off leaving Android and buying a W8 tablet.
BarryH_GEG said:
Since the Note and N10 have come out the TF700 forum has become a ghost town. Picture tumbleweed. Scott Crossler, the magician who made the TF700 usable, is no longer supporting it. Others are trying to keep up his work but picture "Otto Pilot" from the movie Airplane. Asus has done little or no marketing for the TF700 and it's just sort of floating out there. Asus’ Q3 sales of 10.1" tablets was actually down year-over-year.
Here's my elevator conversation summary of the three most talked about Android tablets:
Note 10.1 - It's the most complete tablet available (any OS) and has unique features like multiview, inking via a Wacom digitizer with palm rejection, S-Note, and a slew of Samsung developed features not available elsewhere that make it a joy to use. It's powerful, has JB (kind of), has great sounding front mounted speakers, gets above average battery life, and has a great display with decent (for Samsung) color accuracy, good contrast, and is nicely bright. There are two downsides and they apply mostly to consumption-only buyers. The 720P display isn't as good on text and computer generated graphics as higher PPI tablets and all the things that make the Note great at creation and productivity add a lot of complexity for people that aren't going to use those features. It's also available with 3G and when so equipped it doubles as a giant phone. The only tablet I'd consider replacing my Note with is another Note with a higher PPI display.
N10 - I, like many people, saw the specs for the N10 before it was released and thought it was "game over" for all other 10.1" Android tablet makers. As it turns out the N10 is a "value" tablet not a "high-end" tablet. It has the highest PPI of any tablet on the planet but it's fairly dim, is pretty warm, and has just average contrast. The number of N10's reported with light bleed on their displays is pretty shocking (at any price) for a Samsung-built tablet. The N10's A15 SoC is state-of-the-art and kick-ass powerful. But, because of the mammoth PPI it's powering, it's no more powerful than the Note. It also has a bizarre quasi-phone UI which wastes a tremendous amount of display real estate and looks awkward on a 10" tablet. It's "Pure Google" which is fantastic for updates but, feature wise, it's a barren wasteland compared to the features bundled with TW. Battery life is below average and recharging time is six hours. The N10 is a great consumption device for the price. And that's about it.
TF700 - The Infinity is nothing more than a gussied up Prime which means its design is over a year old. It's also using a Teg3 SoC whose design is eighteen months old and at the end of its useful life and now used primarily in budget devices. It has no 5GHz Wi-Fi, uses single channel memory (the Note and N10 are dual channel), has 1GB of RAM, has IO issues that Asus has made famous, and is built using outdated components that, in a lot of cases, are from second-tier manufacturers (EG: AzureWave Wi-Fi radios). Asus' QC is dreadful, their repair center in TX horrible, and to unlock the bootloader you agree to completely void your warranty. There are a couple of things that are unique and, IMHO, the only reason people should be looking at a TF700. They are: the keyboard which also extends battery life, expandable storage, and the Super IPS display that makes it great for outdoor use. Someone only looking for PPI is better off with a N10.
So, as someone above said, no tablet's perfect. Of the three, I think living with the Note's perfectly acceptable but lower PPI display involves the least amount of compromise. For someone wanting/needing a higher PPI the N10's a decent choice and a good value. For someone who has to have a keyboard and/or higher PPI and expandable storage there's the TF700. But based on it and Asus' history, declining sales, and price, you're probably better off leaving Android and buying a W8 tablet.
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I would really like your opinion on why you think the n8013 in the US has not seen the JB update and why there seems to be not even a peep about it. All promotion of the note 10.1 happens only on the Samsung Mobile International Facebook Page, including the big Christmas vid, but not word about the 10.1 on the Samsung Mobile USA page. It is like the product vanished.
Thoughts?
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I would really like your opinion on why you think the n8013 in the US has not seen the JB update and why there seems to be not even a peep about it. All promotion of the note 10.1 happens only on the Samsung Mobile International Facebook Page, including the big Christmas vid, but not word about the 10.1 on the Samsung Mobile USA page. It is like the product vanished.
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Because HTC, Motorola, and Samsung all suck at managing device updates. Before I got my N2 two weeks ago I was using a Teg3 One X. In an official press release with quotes from their CEO HTC said the Teg3 One X JB roll-out was going to be in October. Taiwan (HTC's home country) got a JB update in October that was so bad the roll out was stopped for the rest of the world. It started again two weeks ago and only five regions out of over a dozen have received it. In between, regional HTC offices have been providing inaccurate and conflicting updates on what the JB schedule really is.
Back to Samsung. Having nothing to do with updates Samsung's s/w management process is a cluster f-k. A single device can have over twenty four "current" versions of s/w running on it because Samsung creates unique s/w for each region a device is sold in. A good example is that while rolling out JB to the N8000 they were still releasing 4.0.4 ROMs in certain regions of the world. So there are newer ICS ROMs than there are JB. HTC rolls out a single version of "current" s/w that all of their devices globally (except specific Asian markets) get updated to within the span of a few weeks. So HTC's managing two versions (global and Asia) of s/w per device while Samsung's managing dozens. And the complexity this creates makes Samsung's update process overly complex and difficult for us on the outside to track and make sense of.
So, the short answer to your question of "where's the N8013's JB update?," is that it's stuck somewhere in Samsung's plumbing waiting to be deployed. It's fun to talk about reasons for delays like patent issues and the like but I really think it’s just Samsung being Samsung. The OG 8.9 on AT&T just got ICS last week after the rest of the world received it in August. Go figure.
The upside is that Samsung's s/w is versatile for end-users to manage with Odin so that when a newer ROM comes out for a different region you can just use that with no repercussions. My Brazilian N2 is running a Panamanian ROM and my also Brazilian Note 10.1 is running a British ROM. At some point soon either someone on XDA or Samfirmware is going to post a complete MD5 file for the N8010. Once that happens every 8010/3 user can update to it using Odin without the current complexity of loading a new ROM followed by using recovery to update it to JB from SD. Look at it this way; at least we have some options. The poor folks waiting on HTC and Motorola just have to wait.
This is kind of old but makes the point of how complex Samsung's s/w managment process is. This is a list of ROMs deployed just for the N8000. Kind of scary.
I don't understand what the problem is with the proprietary connector? Seems to work fine for me.
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I don't understand what the problem is with the proprietary connector? Seems to work fine for me.
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The problem is twofold:
Compatibility
Portability
Which are two sides of the same coin. You must use Samsung's connector
which limits your options for peripherals, unless you get an adapter. Even
then the lack of a separate HDMI port and the fact that you can't charge via
your PC's USB port (not enough current) are annoying. And you can't use your
devices chargers which means one more charger to carry around.
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The problem is twofold:
Compatibility
Portability
Which are two sides of the same coin. You must use Samsung's connector
which limits your options for peripherals, unless you get an adapter. Even
then the lack of a separate HDMI port and the fact that you can't charge via
your PC's USB port (not enough current) are annoying. And you can't use your
devices chargers which means one more charger to carry around.
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small price to pay for the dogs bollocks of android tabs, I have been putting off buying waiting for decent specs with micro sd, bought a nexus 7 & took it back next day, felt like cheap plastic crap! I would love to see a review for the note 10.1 based on a price of £268 which is what I paid after cashback, im sure it would get editor's choice awards across the board!
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small price to pay for the dogs bollocks of android tabs, I have been putting off buying waiting for decent specs with micro sd, bought a nexus 7 & took it back next day, felt like cheap plastic crap! I would love to see a review for the note 10.1 based on a price of £268 which is what I paid after cashback, im sure it would get editor's choice awards across the board!
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I was just answering his question :crying:
And that's a good price. I paid $499 plus shipping.
You can charge on a PC's USB... Just reeeeeeeeeally slowly.... Best to leave overnight to charge in this instance, but I have been using it before and charging at the same time...
Thanks for all the info. Im still waiting for someone to buy the asus
The thing that was most dissapointing was the lag. Jerky surfing and delayed responses.
Dont care much about that tiny higher screen resolution
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Don't waste your money.
The Note 10.1 didn't have ANY ROMs out when I bought mine,
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The JB update came out the day I bought mine so YMMV.
and technically there still isn't any official JB for my N8013.
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Which is relevant only if the N8013 is the version he is going to buy (and seeing that he is from Norway it most probably is not).
The Note 10.1 is not perfect, no tab is.
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Sure but IMNSHO it's the best one out there.
Based on your post, you seem to be a hasty kinda buyer cuz you seem to not
research your purchases beforehand.
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Agreed, how could he assume for example that the Transformer had to have 2GB of Ram just because it was more expensive... :silly:
[*]The Note 10.1 also has a proprietary non-standard charger/connector.
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Yes, which means neither of them has an advantage over the other in this respect.
[*]The few available docks if you want one are rare and pricey as well.
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False, I got a Samsung original desktop dock (stand, charge and audio out) for € 20 (in Italy) and it works with practically all of the Samsung 7" and 10" tablet lines.
[*]The TF700 has a far better display (by ppi)
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Which is its ONLY advantage.
[*]The Note 10.1 is not tegra 3 but exynos quad.
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Which is actually a PLUS (unless you are a gamer maybe, which I am not).
[*]Samsung is NOTORIOUS for taking forever to push updates
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False, Asus has been one of the best ones for their tablet line but Samsung is not bad at all when you compare it with all of the others and has actually been pretty good with their smartphones.
I run the official JB on my Note 10.1 3G and should get the official JB update on my OG Note very soon.
What he should keep in mind is:
- the Note 10.1 has 2GB RAM (a killer spec for how I use it)
- MultiWindow
- the 3G version is one of the handful of 10" tablets in the world (all of them Samsung AFAIK) that have full GSM call and message capabilities (another killer spec for me)
- it has the S-Pen (I don't use it all that often but when I need it it's VERY useful)
- very good and loud stereo audio
- Touchwiz and Samsung added SW, services and personalizations
- I don't know how it would do with games (I don't have a single one installed on my mobile devices) but on everything else the quad-core Exynos is the fastest and smoothest Android tablet I have ever seen.
- very good battery life
- one of the very best non-HD displays
- light and with a PLASTIC back (I HATE metal bodies!!!!)
- it has an IR blaster and you can use it as a smart remote
Well...
Looks Like our family is expecting 2 new members..
The 2014 LG - V400 & V700 as of this writing are passing through the FCC.. I could be dead wrong but the V400 sounds like a 7" tablet and the V700 possibly a 10 - 12" device.
How do you feel about adding or upgrading to one of these units? has the V500/V510 been pretty much what you expected? Or maybe a better question would be.. Has LG met your expectations to a level that you would consider purchasing an LG tablet again? I would say it's a given that the V700 will be packing the Snapdragon 801/805 3gigs of Ram and possibly that 2K display that's coming on the LG-G3.. is that enough muscle to tempt you to upgrade from the V500?
While I have only had it a week, I am suitably impressed enough with the Gpad 8.3 to choose LG over Samsung for my next phone/tablet purchase.
With all the recent deeply discounted sales, and the discontinuation at Best Buy, it's quite possible that one of these new tablets is an 8.3 upgrade. If that's the case, I'm only semi-interested. A reboot will cost $350 (or more?) again, and I'm very happy with my 8.3. After all, I don't use it for anything I feel it's lacking in right now. Graphically-intense games (Asphalt 8, Soulcalibur), work fine, videos look great (and a 4K screen would be wasted), and browsing and ebooks don't exactly require a powerhouse. An 801 or 805 Snapdragon powered 8.3 with 3gb of RAM and a quadHD screen would be cool and all, but I don't need that.
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Well...
Looks Like our family is expecting 2 new members..
The 2014 LG - V400 & V700 as of this writing are passing through the FCC.. I could be dead wrong but the V400 sounds like a 7" tablet and the V700 possibly a 10 - 12" device.
How do you feel about adding or upgrading to one of these units? has the V500/V510 been pretty much what you expected? Or maybe a better question would be.. Has LG met your expectations to a level that you would consider purchasing an LG tablet again? I would say it's a given that the V700 will be packing the Snapdragon 801/805 3gigs of Ram and possibly that 2K display that's coming on the LG-G3.. is that enough muscle to tempt you to upgrade from the V500?
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I already know from experience that 7 is on the small end for me, and since reading is a big factor for me, 10 inches would be too big. Right now, this is the perfect form factor for me. I might consider a 10-incher for more online reading/browsing I suppose, but only as a complement, not a replacement. To be clear, I do not consider a different size as an upgrade no matter what the performance improvements.
I thoroughly love this tablet, so yes, i would gladly buy LG again, and certainly recommend it. I think there is nothing close to it in terms of price/performance right now. The only think I might really wish for is greater battery life, or a brighter screen for sunlight use, but even then, it is not a deal breaker.
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While I have only had it a week, I am suitably impressed enough with the Gpad 8.3 to choose LG over Samsung for my next phone/tablet purchase.
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same here. I was an original LG G2x owner that everybody knows what a freaking mess that was. The worst phone I ever owned. So i stayed away from LG. But then I decided to buy LG pad and love it so far. waiting to see what LG g3 will look like.
NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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Until there's a rock solid ~8.9" offering, ideally a Nexus or GPE, I'll stick with my G Pad GPE (daily driver) and my Nook HD+ (really only used as a comic reader now). I'm hoping the rumors of a Nexus 8.9 later this year are true and that the price is right.
As for the V510, there is no reason to change/upgrade. The screen size is perfect, and everything is damn near instantaneous in opening and response. The kernel needed some tweaking, and there are still a few items missing, but not enough to warrant bothering with it. I'm guessing at this point I will keep this tablet until the screen on a new one allows full sun reading and a foldable device that weighs considerably less. Anything else is just fluff.
Funny that I may not have too long to wait.
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7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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Said the actress to the bishop...
chong67 said:
NO wonder it has been on a fire sale for $230 this past week. My Pad is coming next week. 7" is too small and 10" or more is too big. 8" is perfect.
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I think most will agree.. 8 inches is the *Goldie Locks* Sweet Spot for tablet size..
But.. I also think the allure of a Higher Res Screen 1920 x 1080 to 2560 x 1600 (2K Resolution) and a jump from 1.7 GHz to 2.5GHz and the promise of Key-Lime Pie 4.5/5.0 out of the box or with a swift update this fall, will be enough to change a lot of our minds..
By then, the pressure of the Nexus-8 and maybe even an updated Galaxy Note 8.4 will have a lot of us re-thinking how we feel at this moment..
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I think most will agree.. 8 inches is the *Goldie Locks* Sweet Spot for tablet size..
But.. I also think the allure of a Higher Res Screen 1920 x 1080 to 2560 x 1600 (2K Resolution) and a jump from 1.7 GHz to 2.5GHz and the promise of Key-Lime Pie 4.5/5.0 out of the box or with a swift update this fall, will be enough to change a lot of our minds..
By then, the pressure of the Nexus-8 and maybe even an updated Galaxy Note 8.4 will have a lot of us re-thinking how we feel at this moment..
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Nexus 8 is still just a rumor, and the updated Galaxy Note is low res, so no chance. As to the Tab Pro specs, here's the thing: I paid $213 for the G Pad and am very happy with it. The Tab Pro is nice, but aside from some incremental improvements (the G Pad already has a Retina display as per Apple's own definition), things like the pen, or improved camera are of no interest to me. Truly NONE.
I am not a graphic artist, and I barely do any handwriting nowadays, though I write for a living. As to the rear camera, I have never even used it once, since my go-to camera is my LG G2, and for more serious pictures, I have more serious equipment. The front camera is more than good enough for video Skyping.
So do I think the faster CPU, and higher resolution screen are worth an extra $150? Nope.
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Nexus 8 is still just a rumor, and the updated Galaxy Note is low res, so no chance. As to the Tab Pro specs, here's the thing: I paid $213 for the G Pad and am very happy with it. things like the pen, or improved camera are of no interest to me. Truly NONE.
I am not a graphic artist, and I barely do any handwriting nowadays, though I write for a living. As to the rear camera, I have never even used it once, since my go-to camera is my LG G2, and for more serious pictures, I have more serious equipment. The front camera is more than good enough for video Skyping.
So do I think the faster CPU, and higher resolution screen are worth an extra $150? Nope.
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You sound like a *Happy Owner* of the V500...
And for a purchase price of $213.00 Brand New.. You got a Great Deal.
As for as this "Low-Res" 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 8.4 you are referring to... I can find no such device..
Correct Me if I'm wrong.. but it sounds like.. you thought I was referring to the Samsung Galaxy "Pro Tab 8.4".. I was not.
But I do agree.. the Pro Tab 8.4's price of $399.00 is too high.. just like the G-Pad at $349.00 on launch was too high.
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You sound like a *Happy Owner* of the V500...
And for a purchase price of $213.00 Brand New.. You got a Great Deal.
As for as this "Low-Res" 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 8.4 you are referring to... I can find no such device..
Correct Me if I'm wrong.. but it sounds like.. you thought I was referring to the Samsung Galaxy "Pro Tab 8.4".. I was not.
But I do agree.. the Pro Tab 8.4's price of $399.00 is too high.. just like the G-Pad at $349.00 on launch was too high.
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Right, I confused the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 that is coming out.
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Right, I confused the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 that is coming out.
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Got Cha..
It looks like Samsung is going to have 3 distinctive lines... Tab Series.. Tab Pro Series.. and the Note Series of tablets..
I'm sure there will be an updated Note 8.0 version at some point in 2014.. given how popular the 2012 Note 8.0 was there is bound to be an updated version.
But I have to admit.. if that V700 is indeed a 10" slate with full 2K resolution, Snapdragon 801/805 @ 2.5 or > and priced @ $449 - $499.99 and has a sleek bezel design.. it's going to be tempting to me..
Look Their should be only 2 tablets in this world for any manufacture, one you can hold in 1 hand and another model that needs 2 hands. Anything else is just noise and will be discontinued. Why samsung has like 12 models in the $250-500 range ill never know.
My wish list for the next gpad is same rez, brighter/better screen, a portrait/landscape kickstand, and a back not made of butter.
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Look Their should be only 2 tablets in this world for any manufacture, one you can hold in 1 hand and another model that needs 2 hands. Anything else is just noise and will be discontinued. Why samsung has like 12 models in the $250-500 range ill never know.
My wish list for the next gpad is same rez, brighter/better screen, a portrait/landscape kickstand, and a back not made of butter.
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Back made of butter? As to kickstand, a case is your friend. Not sure about portrait, but mine supports landscape just fine.
If Samsung has that many models, then clearly they have a market for them, so bully for them. It is funny that they do not have any that can compete with the LG in price/performance (current price $200-250 of course).
Does a custom ROM helps the battery life on this tablet?
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Ok, so I've bought the LG GPad 7 v400.... How do I root it and flash a custom recovery?
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Ok, so I've bought the LG GPad 7 v400.... How do I root it and flash a custom recovery?
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Go the the lg g pad 10.1 forum... More people there with the 7.0 lg g pad
There is root (via stumproot(?))
No boot loader unlock possible right now , so no custom ROM/kernel/recovery
The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
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What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Not good at all
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
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Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it