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Considering Galaxy Tab

I own an HTC Desire HD but I've been after some form of tablet since before Apple walked in with the iPad. Looking around there's no real choice yet but that's going to change in the next few months. Question is, is the Galaxy Tab with getting now or would you (current owners) wait if you were in my position?

Learning to really love the tab, but with the announcements right around the corner I would wait.
Who knows when they will be available, but at least you can then make an informed decision. Only a couple weeks away to see whats coming.
If tabs are going to wait for honeycomb and if the rumors are true that honeycomb wont be available until may or june, then I would say get it now. 6 months is a long time to wait.
With that said wait for the announcements to find out for sure.

I'd only get the Galaxy Tab if I specifically wanted a 7" form factor. If you're more interested in a 10" tablet, wait for Honeycomb.

Note that it is unlikely that the 10"ers will have a higher resolution.

Galaxy Tab or wait
I think difficult time to make a decision like this, wait or not. My experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab is not bad but I also have an iPad and I prefer iPad for photos, videos and internet access when I am at home, SGT is nice to carry when travel but worst quality screen, worst speed drawing screen, etc. SGT have more flexibility with OS upgrades (XDA Forum), memory card, telephone calls, telecom Data Plans, but overall worst than Apple. SGT is very expensive too.
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
cocoe68

Thanks for your opinions guys and / or girls! I was leaning toward waiting already but then I saw the Galaxy Tab had dropped in price and it made me wonder. £399 for the 32GB version is a lot better than when it launched.
Looking on the Engadget site a few minutes ago there's already news from CES of quite a few better tablets to come. The wait for Android 3.0 is holding things back but I think I'll wait.

cocoe68 said:
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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SGT does HD in 7" now

Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
That said, 720p mkv files look amazing on the SGT. In my mind, the ability to display colors better is more important than actual vertical resolution. 600p is nothing to sneeze at.

Just buy one - you wont be sorry.

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Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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I'll second this. If you want a tablet, go get one and don't worry about what may or may not happen weeks or months from now. I bought one a few days ago and it's been my constant companion since bringing it home. That's actually more than I can say for the iPad because it was so much bigger and heavier that it rarely left the house. The Galaxy Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants, it's light, it's fast, it plays Flash video like a champ...you absolutely won't be sorry.

Hanson68 said:
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.

LargePrime said:
Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows, and getting decent prices on Intel Atom processors. Essentially, neither MS nor Intel wanted to cannibalize sales of their higher end OSs and processors, so introduced artificial restrictions on the specs of netbooks.
Regards,
Dave

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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?

I say wait for honeycomb. If then you don't find others that you like better than get the tab. The tab is really great however waiting might pay off.

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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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Imagine the pixel density of a 7" screen with a resolution of 1920x1080 or even 1280x720! I am sure they *can* do it but I doubt anyone would want to pay that much for it.

Exactly! The resolution of these devices is not going to change (much, if at all).
Right now I do not think they even CAN do it, as I can find No devices of any type with such a screen. The smallest is the dell XPS at 13.3" (1980x1080) and HP mini note 9" 1280x800, and those are HIGH END devices.
EDIT: I can find displays, but no actual devices.

After seeing all the announcements so far from CES with Honeycomb tablets and 1280x800 resolution on 10.1" displays plus Tegra 2 chips I'm pretty sure that I'll be holding out. As good as the Galaxy Tab looks and might perform I have to wonder if Samsung will bother releasing Honeycomb for it or treating it as an early adopter product that is shelved or sold alongside newer, higher spec systems without future updates.
With that said the size and portability of the Tab would be very tempting at a lower price point, around £200, but I doubt it'll ever go that low.

There were two announcements at CES that caught attention:
Dell Streak 7, a Dell Streak with a 7' screen.
Motorola Xoom 10' with Honeycombe which looks fantastic but no definate release date.
There was also a Lenovo LePad 7'.

The Motorola Xoom really caught my eye too. I hate myself for saying it but even after the shambles of the update process for the Motorola Milestone the Xoom impressed me so much that I could see myself getting one. I'm still very tempted by the Galaxy Tab but I think I'd be setting myself up for a big loss if Samsung drag their heels on a Honeycomb release like their FroYo updates. Given that they likely have new hardware to release as well it gives them even less incentive to update it.

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Here's a few examples!
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_upping_ante_atom_screen_resolution
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10249250-64.html
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about existing netbooks - I see absolutely no point having that sort of resolution on a 7" or 10" device *regardless* of price.
Best I've seen (and had!) was 1600x768 on a 8" Vaio P, and that was over 2 years ago. However, it really was too small for that resolution. One of the reasons that it was more expensive was because it did not fit into either MS or Intels definition of netbook and therefore, had was not permitted to use low cost Windows (Vista at that time), and the Z-series Atoms over the N series.
Regards,
Dave

Should I buy the the Tab 10.1 now or wait for Tegra 3?

I've been so set on getting the Tab 10.1 for a while. Tegra 3 sounds very appealing, though..

If you want a tablet now, get it. The vicious cycle of waiting for the best spec'd will never end. Why not purchase it now and enjoy it? Then when something newer comes out you could sell your Tab and pay the difference for the new one. Just think of the difference as a fee to have an interim tablet

I think you should wait for Tegra 4.
Sent from my beloved HTC EVO 4G.

You have to jump on the merry-go-round at some point. You probably won’t see a Tegra 3/4 until the end of the year or next. Jump and be happy as there will always be something better on the horizon.

akarol said:
I think you should wait for Tegra 4.
Sent from my beloved HTC EVO 4G.
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How dare you suggest it... Tegra 5 is just around the corner after Tegra 4...
Dude if you want it, get it. Sell it later to finance the price of the next one and think of the depreciated value of the Tab 10.1 as a rental fee. Easy-peasy.

Some Tegra 3 tablets probably will be available by the end of the year, though that could still mean up to 5 or 6 months away. However I still don't know if these tablets would be something I'd want to own.
Big reason I'm buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1 is because of it's design, light weight, comfortable ergonomics, PLS display, and good speakers. Such a tablet with a Tegra 3 may not even show up until 2012.
It's too unknown when a good Tegra 3 tablet would arrive. So I decided it is better to just buy a tablet now since I do want one now.

Ravynmagi said:
Some Tegra 3 tablets probably will be available by the end of the year, though that could still mean up to 5 or 6 months away. However I still don't know if these tablets would be something I'd want to own.
Big reason I'm buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1 is because of it's design, light weight, comfortable ergonomics, PLS display, and good speakers. Such a tablet with a Tegra 3 may not even show up until 2012.
It's too unknown when a good Tegra 3 tablet would arrive. So I decided it is better to just buy a tablet now since I do want one now.
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Yeah, because I am sure that the Tegra 3 processor won't fit on the current design of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Technology gets smaller with time, not the other way around. I guarantee you that by the time Tegra 3 is out, the dimensions of the GT will be the norm.
With that said, anyone that holds out for a device that doesn't have a release date is a moron. In this case, not only the device, but the technology itself doesn't have a release date. FAIL!

akarol said:
Yeah, because I am sure that the Tegra 3 processor won't fit on the current design of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Technology gets smaller with time, not the other way around. I guarantee you that by the time Tegra 3 is out, the dimensions of the GT will be the norm.
With that said, anyone that holds out for a device that doesn't have a release date is a moron. In this case, not only the device, but the technology itself doesn't have a release date. FAIL!
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I don't believe Samsung will put a Tegra 3 in a Galaxy Tab 10.1. Instead I think Samsung will design a new tablet for the Tegra 3.
Look at the first Tegra 2 tablet, Viewsonic G-Tablet, great processor put into a low end tablet, took months for it to show up in other tablets after that.
I would love to think that 5 or 6 months now everyone will be making super thin and light tablets. But many could be doing that already and they aren't. And I think that's the problem, we don't have a crystal ball to know for sure that someone will release a tablet in 2011 with a Tegra 3 and not be something low end with a crappy display like a Viewsonic G-Tablet.

Thread reminds me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o

guih said:
I've been so set on getting the Tab 10.1 for a while. Tegra 3 sounds very appealing, though..
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I decided to get an iPad 2 while I wait for the next set of android tablets. Tegra 2s SOC is difficult to get around. If what your getting it for doesn't include HD video in the 720p range, your fine... I wanted:
ebook reader
web surfing
video player (720p mkv)
Everything else was just butter. I really like honeycombs interface... but the iPad does these basic things pretty well. I'll jump on the next gen tho.

I toyed around with the idea of getting an iPad 2 and just waiting on a Tegra 3/Ice Cream Sandwich tablet later.
I would love to watch 720p MKV files and my Netflix (god only knows when that's coming to the Galaxy Tab 10.1).
But as nice as the A5 is at handling video (though I did still read some complaints), it seems like that bonus is instantly negated by the 9.7 inch 4:3 ratio screen.

I'm not aware of any Tegra 3 devices that have any been officially announced, let alone coming out any time soon. I don't think Kal-El/Tegra 3 is even supposed to ship to manufacturers until August, and then there's no telling when a decent device packing Kal-El will show up. I'm not holding my breathe for a third gen Galaxy Tab (or suitable competitor) until the February, March, April time frame.
The ASUS eeePad Transformer 2 is rumored to have a projected launch of April 2012, so that's one to keep an eye out for. But that's just rumor and speculation.
If you want a need or desire for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, get it. We're probably 6-9 months (at least) away from a suitable replacement, and even that Tegra 3 tablet will be outclassed by devices on the horizon before it launches. Doesn't make the current crop of tablets any less functional.

Yea, thanks guys. I'm going to pick one up tomorrow then ^.^

mesasone said:
If you want a need or desire for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, get it. We're probably 6-9 months (at least) away from a suitable replacement, and even that Tegra 3 tablet will be outclassed by devices on the horizon before it launches. Doesn't make the current crop of tablets any less functional.
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This is exactly my rationale for going ahead. I figure that since I don't have a carrier contract to confuse things, when something enough better that I can't stand it comes along, I can always sell the 10.1 for probably half what I paid for it, and get the next thing. And hey, between now and then, I'll have this nifty tablet to play with!

Exactly my problem... one more thing confuses me though. Is 3G... as with or without is another decision to make. (I will read this thread in a moment: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127302)
Tablets are not cheap. - fact
Hopefully, when there will be more of them out there price of new will go down, but so of used ones. My only concern is - will I be able to cover up the difference in price?
So... my current (real life - because this is what is in my shops) choice is:
GT 10.1 with 3G
Transformer/Iconia - wifi only
iPad2
Some of you know I wish to watch movies on tablet (among other things).
This means all of the above are far of good (not to mention ideal).
GT10.1 looks great, feels awesome and (what may be a surprise for you) I really do like TouchWiz. I think it is better that original Honeycomb UI. Has 3G (i still have not decided if I need it... So far I have lived without it but only because I did not have it, no because I didnt wanted it .
But is more expensive, is missing some ports, no netflix - but HULU free works
Transformer/Iconia - cheaper than above, no 3G (not everyday but it may come useful once in a while - is it enough to pay so much extra? - still do not know). Dont looks and feel so great (I am actually going to see them in a shop toady). Have more I/O ports. Hulu for free will work and some movies from NAS drive - but no netflix :-(
iPad 2 - netflix works, hulu (free) no way :-(, movies do work with one of the players but I HATE iTUNES :-( - and it is as expensive as GT10.1
I hate Apple (and others) for reinventing a tablet. Back in Jan 2010 I was not thinking about tablet, not even considering "PC" with touch screen and I could spend my $1000 on something way more sensible than a tablet. Now.... I know I want one and because I have to make a choice that (whichever one I will make) will leave me a bit unhappy, I am even more unhappy. The same applies to a choice of not buying and waiting.
Feeling of frustration is terrible .

I went ahead and purchased the 10.1 I'm sure something better will be out, but for my needs at the moment, the 10.1 suits me just fine.
I basically want a tablet to browse the web and run a few apps while I'm not using my laptop. I still love my laptop, but it's somewhat on the heavy side for sitting on the sofa, watching tv, & surfing the net. It also runs hot & has fan noise I can't stand sometimes. With a tablet I can move around the house freely, surf the net, and not have to worry about fan noise. The 10.1 is said to be very light weight, which is a huge plus.

Galaxy Tab 7.7

Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package
I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/

I like the size of it. Very portable.
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cdf3 said:
I like the size of it. Very portable.
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i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video

Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?

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Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.

i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable

I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.

No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.

i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.
and the ppi on those screens!!

I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.
BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?

It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.
The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.
7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1
Different tools for different jobs.

This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later.
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No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.
Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.
I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.
Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.

I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.

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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7

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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
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And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
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Galaxy Tab 7.7 on the way

Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/

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Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?

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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...

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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV

skeeterpro said:
Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!

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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!

Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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charmartist said:
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.

Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.

Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!

I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore

My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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jollygoon said:
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it

I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.

I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.

I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.

So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7

Galaxy Tab A 10.1 32 GB 2016 or 17 or 18??

Hi All,
Terribly confused - am looking to try Android again after years of being iOS, want to get mid range tab, so the 10.1 A looks about right.
But....Whats with all the 2016, 2017, 2018 after the model numbers? Does it matter, is there any difference?
I am looking at a 32GB Black 2016 10.1 Galaxy Tab A, its showing as the 2016 version, will that be ok?
This is terribly confusing :-/
Cheers!

No diff tbh i have 1 and its brill...
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Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.

Akopps said:
Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.
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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/

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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/
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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.

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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.
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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.

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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.
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But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?

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But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?
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OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets. You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone. It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.

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OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets.
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Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone.
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It seems like you need to read my previous post again. I have made a comparison to competing tablets. The comparison to smartphones came as an answer to a guy who seemed to imply that I complain that a 200 dollar Tab A tablet is not as good as an 800 dollar smartphone. Well, in response to him, I gave him an example of a 200 dollar smartphone that slaughters ALL Tab A tablets that exist today (well, except the screen size).
It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.
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It's like saying that 2010 iPhone 4 is still great and will serve its owners for many years more. Now, I don't know what qualifies for the definition of a "throw away" tablet, but from your words I guess you think that if a tablet costs 100 bucks it must be throw away? Ok. But how does it make you feel that the Samsung Tab A tablets have specs of a 80USD throwaway Amazon tablet? I mean seriously, you would throw away a cheap Amazon tablet, but you wouldn't throw away a Samsung Tab A tablet even though it has the same hardware specs but costs about two to three times more?
If you would like to see a fair comparison to tablets, how about Lenovo Tab 4 Plus 8/10? 1080p screen, CPU built on a modern process. Price is about the same. Lenovo gives you a 2016-2018 technology. Samsung is selling you a 2014 spec tablet for a ridiculous price. I don't really know why ANYONE today would buy Samsung Tab A when something like Lenovo Tab 4 (same price, but much better specs), Amazon Fire (same specs, but much cheaper), or Huawei Mediapad M3 exist. Hell, like I have ALREADY mentioned before, even Apple's 2017 iPad slaughters the Samsung Tab A tablets.
I think the main question now is, will Samsung eventually update the Tab A series, or will it just sell off the remaining stock and then cancel the brand? I mean seriously, does this question not linger in anyone's mind? The damn thing hasn't been updated, except cosmetically, since about 2015. My conclusion is that Samsung will abandon this line and will only continue with the more expensive Tab S line.

Ive been thinking of buying a Tab A, or any other mid range 10 inch tablet, ive seen this https://www.xda-developers.com/list-unannounced-2018-samsung-galaxy-devices/ gta2xl – Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 2018 has this been released, or is it still to come?
If it has then im guessing there are better tablets to spend my £230 on??

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Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
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Not sure what the thesis of your post is other than you do absolutely not like the Tab A series
Here's a comparison of the tablets you mentioned: _https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8090&idPhone2=8872&idPhone3=8605
The Amazon Fire at 170 EUR is locked down by Amazon, head over to https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development to feel the pain yourself.
The Lenovo Tab 2 Plus clocks in at EUR 50 more than the Tab A 2016.
That makes the Tab A 2016 still the best value/money tablet with broad dev support in 2018, like it or not.
You will be shocked to learn that there are folks running the latest 2018 software on 2013 hardware and it's completely sufficient for their use cases.

Hi.
As an owner of Amazon Kindle Fire, and after reading Akopps's initial reply to this thread, I felt obligated to point out the glaringly obvious - it would be ridiculously foolish to buy an Amazon tablet as an alternative to a Samsung tablet - you cannot install Google Play Store, therefore you cannot install many apps without circumventing Amazon's setup.
A strange comment from a "Senior" forum member ?#!*??