Production Cycles - Nexus S General

Does anyone know how production cycles (either for Nexus S or in general) work? In other words, what's considered the second batch/wave of Nexus S being shipped to Best Buy? How early do kinks/issues get hammered out in the production cycle (I guess this depends on how closely Samsung is getting feedback too)? If one were to buy a Nexus S a month from its release date (say mid January 2011, for example's sake), would they be getting a different unit, presumably better, with the kinks/reported issues worked out? How long/many months would it be, give or take, before we can expect a Nexus S with early reported issues addressed?
I'm just trying to understand the relationship between production and markets a little more.

I don't think the second batch would be a better unit per say. If they made a ton right now, then Samsung can slowly manufacture new ones while waiting to hear if there were any major defects, but if they are being sold out in Best Buy stores. I can see the second batch not having any fixes if there were any that needed to be applied. Actually, they could be in production right now. Perhaps by the third or fourth wave, there would be fixes, if any.
According to this Vibrant user, he got a better gps antenna (or something) with the October manufacture ship date. I believe there was also a July and September ship dates for the Vibrant, but don't quote me on that. I know July is fact, but not sure about September.
Just my guess.

I see, thanks. Then I guess there's no real difference getting this phone from now and January.

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News: HTC One supply issues improve 'significantly': HTC seeing a big turnaround

HTC Corp. is likely to see a sharp rise in revenues during the current quarter thanks to the improving supply of its newest flagship smartphone, according to a U.S. brokerage firm. J.P. Morgan Securities
"We have previously said that the new 'One' is HTC's last chance for a turnaround -- we now think HTC has done enough to at least see a mini-turnaround," J.P. Morgan analyst Alvin Kwock wrote in a note to clients dated April 11.
The brokerage firm's latest checks suggested that HTC's supply issues "have significantly improved in the last two weeks" and the company's second-quarter revenue is likely to rise over 50 percent from last quarter, he said.
HTC has helped its supply chain in terms of new vendor qualification, technology transfer and volume increase over the past few weeks, so the HTC One shipments are estimated to rise from 300,000 units in March to 1.2 million units in April and over 2 million units in May, Kwock said.
Source http://focustaiwan.tw/news/ast/201304140003.aspx
Well it's about time. Here in the Middle East everyone has been clamoring for the phone on their Facebook account and they still can't give a concrete date. Very sorry state of affairs. The S4 has a fixed release date of April 26th.
GoodToGo1 said:
Well it's about time. Here in the Middle East everyone has been clamoring for the phone on their Facebook account and they still can't give a concrete date. Very sorry state of affairs. The S4 has a fixed release date of April 26th.
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Things look positive!
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Think HTC need to learn that they should be selling more of the same phone and not put more models on the shelf. Customers want better support for the product they buy, not see a new one come out every 2-3 month. I hope HTC is moving towards less model but better support philosophy, cos I really want to trust them again and buy the One

Units with august manufacture date

Anyone get pick one up from August yet?
I'm waiting until these come out after getting 2 with dead pixels... and I don't know how many more chances I'll have to open a good one @ gamestop, where my money is tied up. (Kinda regret trading in my iPad 3 with a perfect retina display....)
Please let me know if you got one and how the screen is!
I'd guess you were unlucky. My friend, mom, and I all have June ones and the screens are flawless. Also, August builds may not be available for some time, depending on how fast these things are selling. Guessing Google probably learned the N4 lesson and have stocked up lol.

Where is it?!

Seriously, it's releasing in 2 days and no pricing or availability details??
This is ridiculous.
Has a company ever announced a product and simply never released it?
Others are noticing this too:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/22/4759120/wheres-the-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
Guich said:
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Frakking liars.
September 25, pshh.
I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
nightfox11 said:
I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
In italy nobody have notice about the new Note...
I did a quick search for Samsung's IFA 2013 announcement's and The Verge noted the GN10.1 2014 Edition was slated for an October release with no specific date provided. Just figures.
Han Solo 1 said:
Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
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I have seen no official release date from Samsung for anywhere. I have seen speculation all over the place including Sept 24, Sept 25 and Oct 4. Nut all of those dates have come from blogs and rss news, nothing official.
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According to this article it won't be available in Canada until November.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/122...5-great-items-to-its-galaxy-family-of-devices
According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
The_Maverick said:
According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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Galaxy Note 3 (deservedly) Galaxy Gear (not so deservedly) is taking all the attention it appears. However, they could throw us a bone here and there. I know that they don't expect a lot of sales but still, as I said in another thread, if you want to gain loyal customers, you don't pull this kind of stuff.
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
Looks like this may shed some light on when it's coming....
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/23/s...-and-galaxy-s4-mini-to-canada-on-october-4th/
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I'm selling my current note and moving on to the surface pro or either the Lenovo yoga 11s. I was going to get the new note but I need more power.
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It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
Guich said:
It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
lsherif said:
My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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I will buy the 4G edition...
Will see, samsung fail atm!
Screw this. If they keep us in the dark, I'll just go with IPad 5.
Bring on the flamers, I don't care.
codeman05 said:
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
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I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
well you can play with the firmware already ;] i uploaded it to my server for fast dl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457067 njoy
The_Maverick said:
I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
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Bravo!

T-Mobile Nexus 6 Launch DELAYED

T-Mobile was supposed to start trading phones for money-dollars tomorrow (November 12th), but that's not happening anymore. The company has just announced that it's pushed back the N6 launch by one week to November 19th.
The reason given for this is that the carrier wants to give customers "the best experience possible." This probably refers to the strong likelihood that very few units would be ready for purchase in T-Mobile stores tomorrow. Rather than have a substantial portion of customers annoyed that they were unable to get the phone on launch day, T-Mobile has opted to just annoy everyone by changing the date at the last moment.
It's possible T-Mobile is seeing stock shortages even more severe than previously reported. There might not have been any other option but to postpone. In that case, blame falls on Motorola, and to a lesser extent, Google.
This has been covered many times today.
Closed.

Anyone else rather disappointed at how Google handled the release?

I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
Have you tried buying any previous nexus? By far the best release yet!
Doesn't your pre-order have a date? That would be the latest you would have your unit shipped.
No, I'm OK with it.
Yep, best by far. Especially after being involved with the 4, 5 and 6 failed launches!
This is my favorite so far. No issues thus far.
Best handling it this way rather than having people refresh the page every second because product went out of stock within 2 minutes of release.(previous nexus releases)
Very happy.
Order date: Sep 29, 2015 1:05:16 PM CDT Estimated delivery date: November 10 – 12, 2015.
Phone will be delivered to me tomorrow.
Ordering process yes. However... Shipping order is jacked up AGAIN. Ordered 9/29 within 15 min of link going live. 32GB Graphite. There are people with tracking information that purchased 10/21 and have shipping confimation while mine sits in processing purgatory. Card was final charged 3 days ago. Still hasn't gone anywhere. This happens to me every year.
Almost as bad as a Best Buy launch ....
I don't mind this release style at all. I really don't see what OP concern is. Google has turned a 'quickest to order before servers crash' to 'just order and be patient, we won't charge you'
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Disappointment? That would imply I had expectations which conflict with what was promised. I have no such expectations.
In the announcement event, they simply said "later in October" concerning ship dates. During the preorder process, everything was clearly spelled out. How could I be disappointed? My only expectation is that the products I ordered will arrive safely by the time they indicated.
I'm pleased with the order process this time around. As for delays well that is common on pre orders these days. I'm just happy that I got to order, much better than trying to catch a one or two minute in stock window like in the past.
Disappointed, nah. one of the biggest tech company in world can't handle preorder. How the hell do you sell out preorder? Just take the damn order and give a 4-5 weeks eta. Don't tell me you can't get huawei to make your phones in 5 weeks.
I'm rather disappointed that Germany was not a part of the countries that could preorder it first. I simply don't get it...
It's a pain yes. But it happens this way every year. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it much over the years. I'm waiting on a Frost 64GB - No one has gotten a Frost yet, so we'll see if the ship date is hit, Nov 2.
http://gizmodo.com/if-you-ordered-a-nexus-6p-and-it-hasn-t-shown-up-good-1739119538
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Like previous people have mentioned. Most (if not all) of the Nexus launches were pretty terrible.
I wasn't expecting much so no .. not disappointed.
I ordered, was given an estimated ship date and it has shipped early. I call that a success.
abraxo said:
I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
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You do realise that these were pre-orders, right? This is exactly how the concept of a pre-order works.
Dissapointed, yes. The roll out in the US might be not that bad. But there are other countries besides US. In Europe we are still waiting to preorder. Such a slow rollout. Google needs to learn from Apple and bring their **** together and roll out the devices from day one.

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