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Price Leaks from Best Buy

http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/2845-sprint-htc-evo-4g-price
As of last week, Sprint made it available for customers to sign up and receive updates on when the HTC Evo 4G would release. Today, Best Buy has done the same over at their website.
Now that Best Buy was officially talking about the HTC Evo 4G I thought I drop by one of their outlets and see if they had any information to share. A Best Buy rep, from the Geek Squad, had advised that they will be selling the HTC Evo 4G on a $199 Sprint contract plan. He had no further information other than this but we can deduce it must be the 2 year plan. So now that we know it is priced similar to the Verizon HTC Incredible (and the now defunct Verizon Nexus One), it looks like the final decision would be based on which carrier you prefer.
OZCAR guesses that customers will more than likely choose their new Android smartphone based on this criteria since the phones are almost evenly matched. Personally I would opt for the Sprint HTC Evo 4G as it does have a few added extras.
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i think saying "a few added extras" is a huge understatement...

Excellent! That's about what I was hoping though I was afraid they'd put it like the TP2. A buddy of mine has the HD2 and I was checking it out since it should be pretty similar. I liked the size, didn't seem obnoxious in my pocket. Can't wait!

This site is EXTREEMLY duboius
This site is not a trusted site for information. If the $199 price point is accurate I will be extreemly happy, but honestly I am expecting to hear $249 on May 19, 2010.

earldriscoll said:
This site is not a trusted site for information. If the $199 price point is accurate I will be extreemly happy, but honestly I am expecting to hear $249 on May 19, 2010.
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May 19th, 2010? Just wondering if you read that date somewhere or if you are just speculating? The "rumor" I believe Engadget was stating is a potential release date of June 6th or 13th. May would be wonderful, but I'm not holding out too much hope for that date as of now...

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May 19th, 2010? Just wondering if you read that date somewhere or if you are just speculating? The "rumor" I believe Engadget was stating is a potential release date of June 6th or 13th. May would be wonderful, but I'm not holding out too much hope for that date as of now...
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That's the release date for the phone. The speculated full spec/price/plan information / media blitz is rumored to start in mid-May.

keatre said:
That's the release date for the phone. The speculated full spec/price/plan information / media blitz is rumored to start in mid-May.
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I heard June 6th or 13th?

mrmomoman said:
I heard June 6th or 13th?
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Again, June 6th/13th is the release of the phone to sale to the public. Mid-May is when the rumored date that Sprint will release all pricing/plan/formal release date.
In short, May is when Sprint will start pushing the device to the public, letting us know when it will be released, how much it will cost, and the plan details for it.
June 6th/13th will be when the phone is released so that you, me and John Doe may purchase it.

keatre said:
Again, June 6th/13th is the release of the phone to sale to the public. Mid-May is when the rumored date that Sprint will release all pricing/plan/formal release date.
In short, May is when Sprint will start pushing the device to the public, letting us know when it will be released, how much it will cost, and the plan details for it.
June 6th/13th will be when the phone is released so that you, me and John Doe may purchase it.
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FroYo (Android 2.2) is expected to be announced on May 19th as well. I'm curious to see the upgrade path for the EVO 4G to Android 2.2. Hopefully it won't be one of those endless waits for an upgrade. Maybe they'll switch to 2.2 last minute before release(probably not...)

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FroYo (Android 2.2) is expected to be announced on May 19th as well. I'm curious to see the upgrade path for the EVO 4G to Android 2.2. Hopefully it won't be one of those endless waits for an upgrade. Maybe they'll switch to 2.2 last minute before release(probably not...)
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This is very unlikely, and has been discussed quite a bit. The Evo will be shipping most likely with a modified version of 2.1 that supports 4G, however --
The Evo team has been rumored to be working very closely with FroYo, and will support it upon its release. The Evo, although not shipping with 2.2, will receive the update in a very timely manner (after the N1, of course)
Gotta remember this is Sprint's flagship device, and Dan's baby - there is no way they're going to let this thing fall behind in any way of any other device.

Cost
Now let's see what the off contract price is as I just got my Hero in December.

Release date in the U.S

It seems like there are threads on release dates for many countries except the U.S! So this thread is for people with any information on the release date in the states. =)

I hear ya, I'm am so ready to buy this phone... now if t-mobile usa would speed up the process a bit I could quit driving my wife crazy surfing for anything related to the GS2

What we need to do is to create an online group for wives of phone addict xda members who can't stop researching new devices and roms. Then, they'll spend all day on that forum and won't notice we're ignoring them. My wife just doesn't understand that I NEED this phone on T-Mobile.

I hope you guys get it soon... just like us up north here in canada... but as for tmob getting it... the current international version doesn't have AWS support so that may hold it up a tad for them... just like WIND here... hope that doesn't burst a bubble... and if you already knew that... sorry!

This guy will do T-Mobile 3G, cough cough, 4G? It's a plus device?

It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.

I may have missed it, but is AT&T going to be getting this phone?
I keep hearing about tmobile but no AT&T talk. If not then i am going to be very very sad.

to my knowledge AT&T's bands are supported on the international version and as a result if carriers are smart and release the actual model and don't demand variants then you should be in the clear

clivo360 said:
It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
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That's really ****ty if they hold it off till July considering the rest of the world get's it in about a week or two.

I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.

lemonyellowblack said:
I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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Indeed. I'm ready for one, NOW, to use with T-Mobile. Group buy, perhaps?

It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).

Balthazar B said:
It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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I'm almost positive the SGSII will be available on all carriers it's just a matter of timing on the release just like it's predecessor =).

Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May. Now how long into may or if it gets released is the question. Right now I'm looking to upgrade to a smartphone and grandfather in.
So far Galaxy S 2 is looking pretty sweet and I want it

Plave Oci said:
Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May....
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.

kreoXDA said:
wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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Well so far, all the phones on that list have been released at about the right time :O, so not really sure if it's april fools joke. The list had specific dates for all the other phones except for instance bionic/galaxy s 2, where it said "May" for their releases.
I'm hoping for the may release so I can get grandfathered in with the Galaxy s 2 !!!!!! *crosses fingers**

I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol

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I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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and that is exactly why I created that thread about SGS3, but people are just laughing there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049529
Since SGS2 may not even penetrate the market by the Fall of 2011, it is possible the US carriers will just skip SGS2 and go straight for SGS3.

I hope not because then we won't get the SGS2 this fall and will have to wait until February 2012 before the US carriers get around to destroying the device with useless and unwanted carrier changes and blotware and finally release the GS3 to NA that came out in the UK in September lol

I wish Samsung, HTC, Motorola and the other major players would just stand up to the US carriers and say "This device hits the market internationally in May you have until then to do what ever modifications you feel necessary and send the device to us to verify it meets our QA to ensure they don't cut corners to meet the deadline. If you don't have your modifications done by that time you have to release the device the way it was intended free of carrier modifications. If you don't comply with this then you won't get a flagship device that is required to meet your sales goal for the quarter and compete with other carriers that meet these requirements and have our flagship devices available"
How hard would that be, the carriers HAVE to have the newest flagship devices to complete in the high end market if the device manufactures would start throwing their weight around and refuse to release devices to the US market the carriers would have no choice but to back down. Sure that would mean an initial delay in the US for some devices while the carriers cry about not getting their way but eventually they would have no choice but to give in and then then the NA market not only gets all of our future devices in a reasonable time frame they aren't all ruined by the carriers petty attempt to stand out from each other. I don't know about anyone else but personally I would be willing to not have the SGS2 available if it meant I got the SGS3 when it was released in the UK free of carrier modifications and bloatware and that is ultimatly what this would come down to. The NA market misses a generation of top end devices but in return starting with the generation after that we don't have any more of this BS. I can suffer a little in the short term for a worth while long term reward. Plus I would bet money the smaller carriers who are trying to take a chunk out of the big guys market would love the chance to pick up flagship devices that the 3 major carriers missed out on because they wouldn't leave the device alone and just release it so it isn't like the devices would be totally unavailable you could still always get it from say Boost or T-Mobile who are more worried about customer satisfaction than adding bloatware and acting like a petty child who has to try and make his new toy "better" than the other kids or buy the international version and add it to a supported US network like many are doing with the SGS2

London Galaxy Note Launch

Does anyone have any details about this launch which I understand takes place on the 27 Oct?

Go to Clove.co.uk
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.

I'm not sure what they are planning to do. Would be nice with a live stream. I would love to see it and see if they are saying anything about ICS update.

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Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.
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(Off topic)
Interesting .... Glonass navigation. Navigation on Russian satellites. Wonder how accurate that is.

JLG1985 said:
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
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Has Clove contacted you and said the release date is now pushed back? The site says it is "TBC".

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Interesting .... Glonass navigation. Navigation on Russian satellites. Wonder how accurate that is.
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In Soviet Russia...

It seems Clove is now saying that the release date is now "early-mid November" which is very disappointing. However, according to their Blog, anyone who accepted an invitation to confirm their order on the basis of a release date of 1 Nov can get a refund. If the original 17 Nov proves to be the actual release date then I'm not sure it is worth asking for a refund and risk not getting delivery on the 17 November or even before Xmas because you will have lost your place in the queue.

JLG1985 said:
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.
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Clove are saying it could be "early-mid November" so it could be earlier than 17 Nov.

Gaugerer said:
It seems Clove is now saying that the release date is now "early-mid November" which is very disappointing. However, according to their Blog, anyone who accepted an invitation to confirm their order on the basis of a release date of 1 Nov can get a refund. If the original 17 Nov proves to be the actual release date then I'm not sure it is worth asking for a refund and risk not getting delivery on the 17 November or even before Xmas because you will have lost your place in the queue.
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Do you think there is going to be a huge demand for this phone? I figured the price alone would hurt its sales. I haven't even put a pre-order in yet, as I figured places would have plenty of stock. What are people's thoughts on availability??

Hmmmm ........
I thought it was released already..... I know a couple ppl have them already wonder how they did that both in U K
Either way Looking to get one as soon as possible......

It's looking like mid November possibly later. Touch Wiz has to be able to handle Ice Cream (rumor.)

The release date still hasn't been confirmed. I have pre-ordered from expansys which says could be available on 28th. That's the next day of Samsung's 27th announcement.
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Third party vendors on the german amazon claim to already have it in stock. However my "original" amazon will be delivered in "1 to 3 weeks".

VTEChump said:
Do you think there is going to be a huge demand for this phone? I figured the price alone would hurt its sales. I haven't even put a pre-order in yet, as I figured places would have plenty of stock. What are people's thoughts on availability??
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Hm, I was thinking that too - in about a month this device will sell at least 20% below release date prices. By that time there would be reliable root and a decent Touchwiz ROM. An AOSP ICS ROM will also likely appear before the end of November.
Problem is, demand is going to pick up with the Christmas shopping madness, so prices will not be dropping as fast in December.
I will probably get myself one of tthese Notes towards the end of Jan. - the usual retail capitulation time of year. Will not pay over 400 euro for a smartphone - even 400 is ridiculous.
By that time I guess it's going to be clear if you guys early adopters like it.

Here is a site giving more details of the London Launch.
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=7556

renegade027 said:
Hm, I was thinking that too - in about a month this device will sell at least 20% below release date prices. By that time there would be reliable root and a decent Touchwiz ROM. An AOSP ICS ROM will also likely appear before the end of November.
Problem is, demand is going to pick up with the Christmas shopping madness, so prices will not be dropping as fast in December.
I will probably get myself one of tthese Notes towards the end of Jan. - the usual retail capitulation time of year. Will not pay over 400 euro for a smartphone - even 400 is ridiculous.
By that time I guess it's going to be clear if you guys early adopters like it.
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I don't think the device will drop 20% in 2 month. I took a look at SGSII, the price is still high, dropped 100 EUR in a year. Note might not sell the same number of phones, so you might be right, but phones don't lose value until around 4-6 months.(Unless Samsung announce: NO ICS FOR NOTE ) aftar that you et it for free

Is it me or do amazon have it in stock already?
here is the link and tell me what you think:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gal...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319544400&sr=1-1
Granted it is in blue but I dont really care too much

robifis said:
Is it me or do amazon have it in stock already?
here is the link and tell me what you think:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gal...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319544400&sr=1-1
Granted it is in blue but I dont really care too much
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It is not being sold by Amazon UK, but by a third party dealer called Soteluk who are located in Germany and who are quoting a delivery date of 3-18 business days, so not necessarily an earlier delivery than UK based retailers such as Clove.

[Q] When again

Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support

No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!

No

No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.

google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.

is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"

freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
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I refuse to believe this.

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I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.

I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.

Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.

Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.

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Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man

I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."

UltimateGoblin said:
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret

I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????

I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least

I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.

Anyone else rather disappointed at how Google handled the release?

I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product

Have you tried buying any previous nexus? By far the best release yet!
Doesn't your pre-order have a date? That would be the latest you would have your unit shipped.

No, I'm OK with it.

Yep, best by far. Especially after being involved with the 4, 5 and 6 failed launches!

This is my favorite so far. No issues thus far.

Best handling it this way rather than having people refresh the page every second because product went out of stock within 2 minutes of release.(previous nexus releases)

Very happy.
Order date: Sep 29, 2015 1:05:16 PM CDT Estimated delivery date: November 10 – 12, 2015.
Phone will be delivered to me tomorrow.

Ordering process yes. However... Shipping order is jacked up AGAIN. Ordered 9/29 within 15 min of link going live. 32GB Graphite. There are people with tracking information that purchased 10/21 and have shipping confimation while mine sits in processing purgatory. Card was final charged 3 days ago. Still hasn't gone anywhere. This happens to me every year.

Almost as bad as a Best Buy launch ....

I don't mind this release style at all. I really don't see what OP concern is. Google has turned a 'quickest to order before servers crash' to 'just order and be patient, we won't charge you'
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Disappointment? That would imply I had expectations which conflict with what was promised. I have no such expectations.
In the announcement event, they simply said "later in October" concerning ship dates. During the preorder process, everything was clearly spelled out. How could I be disappointed? My only expectation is that the products I ordered will arrive safely by the time they indicated.

I'm pleased with the order process this time around. As for delays well that is common on pre orders these days. I'm just happy that I got to order, much better than trying to catch a one or two minute in stock window like in the past.

Disappointed, nah. one of the biggest tech company in world can't handle preorder. How the hell do you sell out preorder? Just take the damn order and give a 4-5 weeks eta. Don't tell me you can't get huawei to make your phones in 5 weeks.

I'm rather disappointed that Germany was not a part of the countries that could preorder it first. I simply don't get it...

It's a pain yes. But it happens this way every year. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it much over the years. I'm waiting on a Frost 64GB - No one has gotten a Frost yet, so we'll see if the ship date is hit, Nov 2.

http://gizmodo.com/if-you-ordered-a-nexus-6p-and-it-hasn-t-shown-up-good-1739119538
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Like previous people have mentioned. Most (if not all) of the Nexus launches were pretty terrible.
I wasn't expecting much so no .. not disappointed.

I ordered, was given an estimated ship date and it has shipped early. I call that a success.

abraxo said:
I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
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You do realise that these were pre-orders, right? This is exactly how the concept of a pre-order works.

Dissapointed, yes. The roll out in the US might be not that bad. But there are other countries besides US. In Europe we are still waiting to preorder. Such a slow rollout. Google needs to learn from Apple and bring their **** together and roll out the devices from day one.