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What is happening here is 100% OUTRAGE !
HTC is pathetic in releasing stocks and in my opinion lead extremely unprofessional behavior in handling new products.
Just when I thought Apple finally had a rival...
Releasing a phone that you can't buy...
CANCEL the silly Desire HD because no one is going to get one until XMAS so it seems.
Its annoying sure, but its not like they have started kitten stomping...
Calm down man.
It happens with a lot of products like this. Demand can be hard to determine. The PC industry works in a similar fashion, with stock being available, and then more coming in due time.
There is no need to call them unprofessional just because of a stock shortage every so often. I seem to recall when the iPhone 3GS came out, it was almost impossible to get one for a time because of a lack of stock...
How dare they release a product that's popular and suffer due to that! Those bastards!
Are you insane? It's a phone, wait it out or go elsewhere. It isn't the first time a supplier has had trouble keeping up with demand and it won't be the last. Look what happened with the Wii when it first came out, they were going for 2 - 3 times the normal price due to demand and shortages.
I guess i was lucky. Ordered mine last friday and recieved it on monday morning.
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What is happening here is 100% OUTRAGE !
HTC is pathetic in releasing stocks and in my opinion lead extremely unprofessional behavior in handling new products.
Just when I thought Apple finally had a rival...
Releasing a phone that you can't buy...
CANCEL the silly Desire HD because no one is going to get one until XMAS so it seems.
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got mine for 2 weeks now, i have waited for 2 weeks on my dhd as an upgrade from vodafone. i told them if i can't have the item before my patience run out i'll be cancelling my upgrade and going somewhere..... voila!!! and now i am playing with it too bad, i have no idea that the battery life on this one is far worst than my old phone and no custom RUU yet unlike my old touch pro 2. aside from that it's perfect.
i was also told by tmobile that there would be no stock until xmas time, so i asked about one of thier stores and they said that was ok. luckly my local store had 1 left so i grabbed it.
they also told me they are selling these machines like hot cakes, the funny part in my case was 3 people came in whilst i was doing the paper work asking for one.
imho its well worth the wait if you cant get one immediatly, the machine is tops.
With all due respect, this is why preordering is an option. What would you like them to do...delay the device another month to ensure there is more stock and please everyone in one hit or release it a month earlier and over that time ship the same number of units but allow some customers to get their hands on them earlier? Personally I think its better to have units in peoples hands rather than sitting in crates at a warehouse doing absolutely nothing for anyone. Certainly, you wouldn't get the device any sooner and theres no guarantee when the stock does ship that stock will be enough as they may not be able to gully estimate the markets demand.
It was pretty obvious stock would be tight at release so I preordered one. Needless to say, I've had mine for two weeks so people are getting them.
I too, was slightly upset from the delay. Mine wasn't on HTC's fault, but on the UK Sim-Free not passing on of Google's tests back in start of October. This was somewhat unavoidable, and although some places such as Amazon had moved the shipping date from start of october to mid-november, i was quite happy to pre-order mine on the 1st Oct to receive on the 1st November. I got a second shipment, which gave people before me time to start rooting the phone, making skins, and letting me enjoy my phone a bit more.
Within a week, HTC had brought out fixes for some of the bugs that was discovered.
Demand for the phone is pretty big, only proving that HTC is a major competitor of the iPhone, and I for one am ecstatic, seeing as I only heard of Android a year ago when the Hero was released, and no-one had heard of Android. Now it rules my life....
Some things are worth the wait, and this is one of those things
Go to a 3 store they have loads selling sim and unlocked £449 I know they have them cos I had to exchange my first one due to crashing problems.
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Im so disappointed right now because it looks like HTC are delaying the phone AGAIN! They were meant to ship some units (mine included) this week but it's been delayed again because of component problems.
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I swear some people just makes threads so they can see their name keep popping up occasionally.
Do you also sit at the table slamming your fists down over this "outrage". You might live longer if you either pick a different phone or you know, calm down, take a breath and be patient.
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I swear some people just makes threads so they can see their name keep popping up occasionally.
Do you also sit at the table slamming your fists down over this "outrage". You might live longer if you either pick a different phone or you know, calm down, take a breath and be patient.
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My thoughts entirely. How do these people get through their normal life? Waiting for a bus must make them ill.
Tablets are appearing left, right, and center these days and I think I have decided that I would like to support the innovative little guy. However, I have sent several emails over the course of the last month inquiring how someone could place an order.
I am in the US (if that matters) and was wondering if anyone had successfully ordered or put their names on a waiting list recently (and if so how?), and how long it takes from start to stop to get your adam.
Thanks!
RE: pre-order windows? existance is futile?
I've been wondering the same thing. Every time I talk myself into grabbing one I can't seem to locate any way of pre-ordering.
Aside from the few that are marked up/snarked up on *bay... I too would rather support the little guy. Though I fear that once I get around to talking myself into picking up a tablet again, an iPad2 will head my way.
I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
The first batch of orders in Dec were across the map as far as time from ordering to delivery (Some got theres in Jan, others not till recently)
I don't believe anyone in this second batch has gotten delivery yet. I ordered mine on Feb 9th and the estimated shipping date is March 3rd-10th (but who knows if that will hold true).
There is a reason why they are calling these "Pre-Orders", I think it is taking them some time to produce them which is certainly a risk us consumers are taking. But have faith if you think this device suits you the best.
iPad 2 really doesn't look like it offers much more then the iPad 1
Yes it is thinner/lighter, yes it has two cameras, and yes it now has a dual core processor....but the main reason I gravitate towards the Adam is the fact is offers most of that along with more consumer friendly inputs/outputs, a physical design that will be easier to hold, and of course Honeycomb which offers so much more for me over the Apple OS 4.3
iPad 2
I agree the only thing I like about the iPad 2 is the cover, which if I am honest really is brilliant in its simplicity, utility, and awesomeness. Other than that...
Still, I am not sure which device best fits my needs (I just know I want to support small innovators) My problem is that I am a grad student who is trying to go paperless. I try and read my articles, grade my papers and read my news on a monitor, and it might be nice to have something that I could hold rather than put on my lap.
Also pretty sure that 7 inches is just too small (maybe 10 is too big) who knows...I wish there were more brick and mortar stores where I could try them out.
The Xoom is available to try out at best buy. So you could at least get an idea of what 10inch's is like as well as Honeycomb vs. the Apple OS.
The LG Optimus Pad and supposedly a new Galaxy Tab are coming out with 8.9inch screens.
If you are focusing on the Adam for its Pixel Qi screen for reading I would research more reviews on how it does indoors vs. outdoors. I opted to order the LCD version only since I don't plan on using it as an e-reader or for outdoor purposes. I mainly want it to replace my personal laptop that i lug around whenever I travel just to check email/surf the web/ and watch movies.
I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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I consider that good news for 9th orders. Means that the promised 3rd March shipping date is still realistic.
Edit: Actually, bad news. Means I'll have to start checking the pre-order site multiple times a day now out of sheer compulsive curiousity.
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My Feb 9th order has shipped
I realize that Notion is a small company, but how can they think they will stay in business when people can't figure out how to order or have to wait a ton?
I like the idea of the Adam, but not the idea of waiting to pre-order then waiting a month or more for my unit.
So is it worth the wait?
Depends on what your needs/wants are in a tablet.
I came to the decision of handing my money over to Notion Ink instead of any other company for the following reasons:
- 2 x Full USB 2.0 Ports
- Tegra 2
- 6 Physical Buttons (4 on the face, Back button and Power button on the side)
- Full HDMI Out
- Ergonomical Design
- Promise of Honeycomb
- $425 price tag
I too am wondering if this tablet is worth the wait. I ordered mine Feb 14 and I am tired of waiting. My original estimated ship date was now pushed back to 3/3-3/10. This is insane. I have no idea how these guys intend to run a successful company doing business like this. This is absolutely unacceptable. If this estimated ship date is pushed back one more time I am going to cancel my order. And if they give me any sh*t going that route I'll simply refute the charges and let my AMEX deal with this B.S.
Of course, I hope I don't have to go that route and I hope I will receive an email shortly telling me my Adam has shipped. I really want this device but refuse to wait around like a scorned lover begging for attention. I'm paying good money. It's not like I won this thing in a contest and am waiting on them to ship one once they have extras. This is INSANE!!!
I bought the Adam because of the reasons I posted above. No other company is putting a tablet out that offers the same functionality.
With that said....
There is a BIG reason why they are calling this a "PRE-ORDER". They are a small company, they did not have the money and means to start mass producing these. But from what we read from Rohan they are growing quickly and starting to strategically plan for a larger roll out that also includes better support.
Adam is their first product, they are dedicating resources towards designing the next one. This kind of innovation is a beautiful thing. I don't understand how people "expect" this ordering experience to be similar to that of purchasing an Apple or Motorola product.
What are the price-points of the various options?
My friend and I both just recently signed up for pre-orders but who knows when the next batch will roll out....just trying to plan ahead!
Thanks.
Of course I wouldn't expect it to be like buying an Apple or Moto product. The surprising part is their website is a little too filled with mystery. The tech audience in general is not a patient bunch and signing up for unknown pre order dates and long waits wont fly with everyone. For their own sake I hope they can step up production a bit. I do believe their pricing is very good from what I could find but having to google them vs being front and center on their site is kinda lame.
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anyone know when is this tablet going to be release so i can order it and not have to wait for an unknown delivery date? kinda messed up how they are doing this with the preorders. i cant find a release date anywhere...
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I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
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Thank you I been looking all over for this
Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support
No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!
No
No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.
google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.
is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
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from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
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I refuse to believe this.
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I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.
Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man
I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret
I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????
I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least
I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.
I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it
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I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it
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I'm pretty confident in saying that you won't have to camp. Nobody outside of these forums even knows the phone is being released. I work in a dept of over 300 people with smartphones and not a single person has heard nor cares about the N6.
The are you going to buy it poll on the most frequented android forum in the world had a whopping 155 votes. People are acting like this phone isn't going to be available.
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I tend to agree. I contemplated camping until I considered I might be the only one outside waiting. I might get there 20 minutes early though. Just in case. Even if they sell out the stock before I get a chance to buy one. I'm doubtful it will be on back order the first day. So odds are they'll be able to ship it in a couple days, hopefully.
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I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white
My impression was waiting 4-5 hours before they open. Interesting that people in here are not to worry about it. Guess depends where you live. When I got my M7 on launch day in Bellevue, I went half an hour before they opened and was like 4th in line, and several people behind me. Going based on that.
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Not right now...
For perspective, the Nexus 5 sold less than 5 million units since release. The Note 4 sold nearly that in a week. No matter how difficult Google makes it to get online, the phone will be widely available at the carriers. Nexus devices have never sold well, even at 299-399 dollars. I suspect the 650-700 dollar Nexus wont be flying out of the stores, either. If people want a Phablet, they'll just get a Note 4, its pretty much cornered the market on Phablets. I love the Nexus line, but I can count on one hand how many people I've ever seen in the wild with one since the Nexus one, and I live in NY.
At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.
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At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.
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I agree. And on top of that, getting any consumer electronics item a few weeks before it becomes widely available isn't going to improve your life in any measurable way. By the way, I ordered through Motorola and am expecting delivery on November 26th. I think I can wait another 11 days.
Does camping around your phone that has two apps set up to alert you when it's available count? I will actually be working at T-Mo that day, I'm in training so don't go asking me questions b/c honestly I know as much as you all at this point. I'll get outta work around 2-3pm and maybe drive around to take ganders at it if I can.
I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha
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I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha
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Same and hopefully they allow us to do that at Midnight.
i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.
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i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.
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Wait someone bought the edge!?!?
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Wait someone bought the edge!?!?
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yeah haha we had 2 edges come in and they gobbled it up at my att store in addison tx
Will likely be at one of the leaked stores supposed to sell it at least 5 hours in advance of opening.
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I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white
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Not right now...
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Get this man a beer for this post (and maybe a nudie mag)
I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.
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I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.
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I think this is much more popular than the Z3.
I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
Have you tried buying any previous nexus? By far the best release yet!
Doesn't your pre-order have a date? That would be the latest you would have your unit shipped.
No, I'm OK with it.
Yep, best by far. Especially after being involved with the 4, 5 and 6 failed launches!
This is my favorite so far. No issues thus far.
Best handling it this way rather than having people refresh the page every second because product went out of stock within 2 minutes of release.(previous nexus releases)
Very happy.
Order date: Sep 29, 2015 1:05:16 PM CDT Estimated delivery date: November 10 – 12, 2015.
Phone will be delivered to me tomorrow.
Ordering process yes. However... Shipping order is jacked up AGAIN. Ordered 9/29 within 15 min of link going live. 32GB Graphite. There are people with tracking information that purchased 10/21 and have shipping confimation while mine sits in processing purgatory. Card was final charged 3 days ago. Still hasn't gone anywhere. This happens to me every year.
Almost as bad as a Best Buy launch ....
I don't mind this release style at all. I really don't see what OP concern is. Google has turned a 'quickest to order before servers crash' to 'just order and be patient, we won't charge you'
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Disappointment? That would imply I had expectations which conflict with what was promised. I have no such expectations.
In the announcement event, they simply said "later in October" concerning ship dates. During the preorder process, everything was clearly spelled out. How could I be disappointed? My only expectation is that the products I ordered will arrive safely by the time they indicated.
I'm pleased with the order process this time around. As for delays well that is common on pre orders these days. I'm just happy that I got to order, much better than trying to catch a one or two minute in stock window like in the past.
Disappointed, nah. one of the biggest tech company in world can't handle preorder. How the hell do you sell out preorder? Just take the damn order and give a 4-5 weeks eta. Don't tell me you can't get huawei to make your phones in 5 weeks.
I'm rather disappointed that Germany was not a part of the countries that could preorder it first. I simply don't get it...
It's a pain yes. But it happens this way every year. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it much over the years. I'm waiting on a Frost 64GB - No one has gotten a Frost yet, so we'll see if the ship date is hit, Nov 2.
http://gizmodo.com/if-you-ordered-a-nexus-6p-and-it-hasn-t-shown-up-good-1739119538
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Like previous people have mentioned. Most (if not all) of the Nexus launches were pretty terrible.
I wasn't expecting much so no .. not disappointed.
I ordered, was given an estimated ship date and it has shipped early. I call that a success.
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I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
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You do realise that these were pre-orders, right? This is exactly how the concept of a pre-order works.
Dissapointed, yes. The roll out in the US might be not that bad. But there are other countries besides US. In Europe we are still waiting to preorder. Such a slow rollout. Google needs to learn from Apple and bring their **** together and roll out the devices from day one.