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Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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as far as using it on the mt? honestly im disappointed with it i never use the touchflo (which is the sense ui look) but i like the htc features so i just use those... sprint will have the real hero coming out this month if you want it that bad but if you dont care about speed and dont mind waiting at least a minute every time you hit the home key for it to load then go for it but its just too slow for me
**i must say i love the size of the mt3g its way slimmer than the tp2 and g1 which was a hugh plus for me and reason i still use it
Samsung Galaxy Lite.
There are 4-5 registered Android devices said to be dropping Q4 of this year for T-Mobile USA.
The MyTouch is fantastic. I have a G1 as a spare for development and testing. However, there will always be a growing trend with "the next best thing."
Keep in mind, there's a lot of this year LEFT to go. Keep your options open...open-source that is! HA!
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There are 4-5 registered Android devices said to be dropping Q4 of this year for T-Mobile USA.
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i believe its 12-14 by the end of '09 among all the carriers so i must agree with that, theres a lot of the year left
Correct indeed.
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i believe its 12-14 by the end of '09 among all the carriers so i must agree with that, theres a lot of the year left
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He makes a valid point as well.
It just depends on what you can afford for the various data packages offered by the carriers.
My preference being: T-Mobile USA!
Fantastic service, loyal to them for almost 8 years now. Nothing but positive experiences with them.
Like I said though...the MyTouch is nice, but hold off...it could be worth it.
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Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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I am using a mytouch and love it. This is my first android phone and I don't think I will ever go back to windows mobile. These phones are more versatile and the interface is whatever you want it to be.
I don't use a hero ROM on it because I have heard too much about it being slow. I will wait for the optimized version to show up before trying that.
I was going to get the TP2 but the cost put me off. I am glad it was too expensive now. Showing off this phone to people at work has made 3 other people get an android phone.
I Dont know that holding off will do you any good.. I have seen the specs for the other droid phone that tmo us is supposed to get this year (well all of whats available) and honestly the mt3g is I think still the best one (assumeing you want a non keyboard slim phone)..
I know there is supposed to be some lower end ones coming out, but if you have the TP2 now I am guessing that doesn't really interest you..
So I hate my Hero, A, because it is slow, and B, because it is stuck on 2.1 forever. So I have been looking at the Evo and the Epic, and the other related phones, and here is my question, what is the support going to be like? I know that every time a new phone comes out, the manufacturers seem to forget about the old ones, and for no technical reason, the MyTouch 3G is getting Froyo after all. So one of the things I am looking at with my next phone is that it will be supported for the full two years, the Hero only made it 6 months, so I know that seems like a lot, but I honestly don't think it is too much to ask. If you sell a phone with a 2 year contract, you should support it for at least 2 years, as long as technically possible. So without a vanilla Android phone available on Sprint, which of the two phones do you guys think will be supported with updates longer? I have seen that sources close to Google said the Galaxy S phones will be upgraded to 3.0, but they didn't mention the EVO, even though it meets the spec requirements. Would it be waiting until the end of the year for whatever comes then? Or is just that buying me until December of next year instead of August? Thanks.
No phone will ever be supported for 2 years...some countries even have 3 year contracts as standards...The contract is unrelated to the phone you buy...
The manufacturer warranty is 1 year for all of them...past that you can't really expect them to issue updates for it...that is why we have a community...
You have to remember that the manufacturer is not earning money off your contract, only from the sale and if they have their apps in there, those as well...
The one who is forcing you into the contracts are the carriers...no matter how much you may think the US is a free open country..it is not...out of all the countries we have the most locking of phones and other things...
You are not forced to sign a new contract..you can always pay the full price of the phone up front..the contract just gives you a discount...
Ok, while I will admit all that you said is true, my example is the iPhone. Apple puts out a phone, and continues issuing updates for it, even you you are probably out of your 3G contract now, you can still upgrade to OS 4.0, you won't get all of the features, and it is debatable whether you should have those features, but at least you get part of the update. I don't understand why that can't happen on Android. Even the MyTouch 3G will have had support for over a year. The Hero on the other hand, got its first and only upgrade after about 6 months. Why can't we have some arrangement like that with a non-Google phone? I mean, just give me a full year of updates and I will be happy, if those updates are reasonably prompt, as with the EVO and Froyo. Will that continue with the EVO, or the Galaxy S when we move to Gingerbread?
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Ok, while I will admit all that you said is true, my example is the iPhone. Apple puts out a phone, and continues issuing updates for it, even you you are probably out of your 3G contract now, you can still upgrade to OS 4.0, you won't get all of the features, and it is debatable whether you should have those features, but at least you get part of the update. I don't understand why that can't happen on Android. Even the MyTouch 3G will have had support for over a year. The Hero on the other hand, got its first and only upgrade after about 6 months. Why can't we have some arrangement like that with a non-Google phone? I mean, just give me a full year of updates and I will be happy, if those updates are reasonably prompt, as with the EVO and Froyo. Will that continue with the EVO, or the Galaxy S when we move to Gingerbread?
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Well iPhone is different..Apple actually gets paid a portion of your contract...not to mention all app revenue goes to them as well...
But in case of the Hero..it kinda came at a bad time...it was the point where the device specs skyrocketed and Android was moving fast in development..not to mention the Hero was already an out dated phone before it even came out..US was just slow at getting devices on the shelves...recently it seemed to have picked up..before it used to be 6 month - a year before it got in US shelves but was already all over the world...nowadays we get them 1-3 month or so...
Once 3.0 hits Android also slow down a bit in their release cycle...
Most likely you will get 1 year support around these days..and afterwards it will be community support for life ...
Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls. Then I upgrade to the Hero, and don't get supported.
But what you are saying all makes sense, so I hope either way we get more updates, even if they have to be delivered by the Dev community.
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Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls. Then I upgrade to the Hero, and don't get supported.
But what you are saying all makes sense, so I hope either way we get more updates, even if they have to be delivered by the Dev community.
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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He means from HTC/Sprint official upgrade..not community stuff..
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My Hero has 2.2....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vAbsx0spM
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So does mine, thanks to Darchstar and all of his fellow developers. And I can't thank them enough for that, because if it weren't for them, I would have thrown this phone out of my car at high speed off a cliff long ago. But it shouldn't be up to developers to support a year old phone. Especially when it is obviously capable of running newer firmware. And because they don't officially support it, these 2.2 ROMs will never be as good as ones with the official HTC base.
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He means from HTC/Sprint official upgrade..not community stuff..
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Correct, I just think it is the right thing to do when you sell a phone. Support it for two years. Sprint pays HTC for the phone, and we pay Sprint for the phone and service, so it just makes sense that they Sprint should make sure their customers are supported for at least the two year contract whenever technically possible.
One year of support might be feasable. Htc doesn't want to waste resources supporting old hardware, sprint doesn't want you to reach end of contract. This is why they give upgrade pricing after one year in exchange for 2yr contract agreement. Android platform + this communit have given me the ability to keep a phone for 2yrs with minimal discomfort.
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Maybe I am slightly bitter, especially that the poor Hero support came after my first HTC phone, the Touch Pro, broke on 4 separate occasions, the first two were within 30 days, so Sprint replaced it, but the 3rd time it took 3 weeks to send to HTC and get it back, after a maze of tech support calls.
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Wait a second... Why the heck would you EVER have to send the phone in to HTC? If it's under warranty, Sprint repair stores handle it for you. If there's no repair stores near you, care cross-ships you out a new (or refurb) phone. You shouldn't have to be without a phone for more than a day, max.
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Wait a second... Why the heck would you EVER have to send the phone in to HTC? If it's under warranty, Sprint repair stores handle it for you. If there's no repair stores near you, care cross-ships you out a new (or refurb) phone. You shouldn't have to be without a phone for more than a day, max.
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Because it was about 6 months after we bought it, and it we don't buy the warranties. So we called Sprint, and they told us that the only thing they would do is sell us a new phone for full retail, and specifically asked about a loaner or something, and they said that was only for people with warranties. They said the only thing we could do is send it to HTC, so that is what we had to do.
As a rebuttal, you can put 2.2 on a hero, and have everything work. I'm doing that now to get used to not having sense. Sure it doesn't top the charts and 3d games suck on it, but there are plenty 2d games on the market that work fine, you can watch movies that look and sound fine on it if you take the time to convert them properly. Plus, I haven't had any issues with lag, especially with the keyboard. The stock android one us much better than htc's ime.apk in that aspect. And it probably has to do with the haptic feedback. I typed this on my phone and it doesn't feel like a chore.
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As a rebuttal, you can put 2.2 on a hero, and have everything work. I'm doing that now to get used to not having sense. Sure it doesn't top the charts and 3d games suck on it, but there are plenty 2d games on the market that work fine, you can watch movies that look and sound fine on it if you take the time to convert them properly. Plus, I haven't had any issues with lag, especially with the keyboard. The stock android one us much better than htc's ime.apk in that aspect. And it probably has to do with the haptic feedback. I typed this on my phone and it doesn't feel like a chore.
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Thats not what the OP is talking about...he has Hero running 2.2 as well..if you read he says manufacturer support..NOT community support...
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Thats not what the OP is talking about...he has Hero running 2.2 as well..if you read he says manufacturer support..NOT community support...
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Thanks again gTen, and rufflez, I have already said how much I love the devs here and on other forums, and all the work they put into the platform, but the operating system is always the best when based on official kernels and and drivers. And it shouldn't be up to the community to support the devices after such a short time. They should improve on work done by the manufacturer, but they shouldn't be solely responsible for the device's advancements.
It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
The lack of anything besides Vanilla 2.X roms here lately is a sign of the G1's retirement setting in fully. We all knew this was coming. As soon as they said 2.X would never be given to non rooted users, it was a big blow dealt. Now that we hardly see any new roms and the recent news of the G1 Blaze being very near to release, I think people are just waiting for the right upgrade to come along. Then the G1 will go to the great phone graveyard.
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It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
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Yeah, ditto, I've noticed the same thing for months now. We G1 users have not been forgotten though, we still have lots of developers who are still working hard for us. I mean, remember a few months ago when we didn't even have fully working eclair roms? Each of which had different broken features, back when OE, CE, and kings AOSP were the best 2.1 roms yet they all lacked camcorder, 3D, etc. Now we have fully functional hardware on froyo roms, We can load custom boot partitions, we can OC way past 528 Mhz, etc.
I have a few ideas to try to implement myself, but I am definately still learning. I just recently installed ubuntu on my main computer (windows sucks lol) and I'm working on building from CM source. Some of my (and other people's) ideas include a reverse ram hack and an OC OV kernel to overclock higher. Wish me luck
Besides, try not to thing about it as how much we have left, but how far we've come. (lol I linked to a song by the same name... listen to it the lyrics are powerful)
Yea. I own a g1 and a mytouch 3g both 32b.. i think i installed mostly every rom for the g1.. now rooting just got boring w. The g1.. i love the phone nd all.. i just dont want to see it go.. after every hack that came out for it.. i have to wait 2 year to get a new android device.. but i kno my g1 will hold up.. still best keyboard/touch screen phone too me..
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Bam, You nailed.. it!
I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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All the original MyTouch was a G1 without a keyboard unless you happen to have a 32a device. The 1.2 was a nice step up, but quickly outdated.
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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Im going to jump in and say YES! Why? Because I am deaf (read hearing impaired, profoundly deaf -- dont call me, nobody will answer, I cant hear you")
I got my first Dream in November 2009. It was because I was sick of the Sidekick and its baked-ness.
December 2009, I rooted the G1 because I quickly got sucked into the rooting forums and wanted to see what it could do.
I have been trying to figure out how to run this phone without phone.apk com.android.phone and Dialer. Its impossible since the telephony part is still tied into the SMS/MMS portions.
My point is...... the telephone part for a hearing user must use about...... say 1GHZ of space. What can this Dream do without all that phone?
I now own 6 Dreams, (1 bought, 5 rescued from the graveyard, all are working beautifully and I have big hopes for them one day) This is not just a phone. Its a beautiful piece of clocked machinery. I believe I will use a G1 until the day I die which will be within 6 decades.
So, instead of sending the G1's to the graveyard how about it
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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No, I want it to run Android(yes, i know its a linux kernel). I want it to play media, navigate/have maps on sd card so i can replace a standalone gps on long trips, I want it utilize any and all apps that it can, games too. And I want it to do all this w/o the telephone parts taking up precious space. I can put google voice/sipdroid on it for voip capabilities.
yeah. I also want to know if the 64 mb of ram that would be wasted on the baseband radio can be recovered.
I would never give up my G1 even though I said that in the first post but... the G1 is just to amazing to me. The current G1 I own has a screen cable issue so the screen constantly turns black when ever you touch the bottom certainly, now I have to use a P.O.S. Sidekick LX 2007 Brown temporarily until Project Emerald or the G1 Blaze. If I could fix the cable I would gladly use this G1 until it dies before I replace it.
Or you could buy a used g1 on craigslist for 75 bucks. hell, if you got friends with android that have upgraded you might be able to score a free one.
I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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HAHAHA nice I need to try that with some people. Hopefully some Dev's can get Gingerbread on the G1 and then I can make my friend more jealous because he'll probably have to wait till next year to get it on his phone.
It feels so good to have this G1. A device with out dated specs, but with capabilty of anything out there. Hmmmmm maybe if we just swap in a gpu.... we should build G1s.. just like they build computers
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Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
I'm waiting for the Nexus S, then I'll (sadly) sell my Hero...
I recentenly received a Htc Desire Z for my birthday and my mom says I need to sell it. But I don't want to because it has such good memories
I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
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I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
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Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
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Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
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problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
LAG
I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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You can change the orange tiles you know? To answer the original post, i'll be getting either a Samsung omnia 7 or a desire hd next month. Most probably the omnia 7 though, just because I love how simplistic wp7 is and how its so different from all the other OS'.
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I can guarantee that rooting your phone and loading a froyo rom will undoubtedly fix the bluetooth problem. I had the 2.1 official update until a few days back and then rooted and loaded the FroydVillain 1.6 rom. Previously I could pair with my Nokia BH-504 headphones, but when using them on a call they would hang due to a software incompatibility of the official ROM with the BT stack of the headphones.
Now they work perfectly. So will your car BT. I cannot be 100% sure, but I'm pretty confident on a 95%.
Your other problems with the phone are lag related. On Froyo the phone flies. No more lag, the Froydvillain rom has a overclock/underclock utility to ensure maximum performance with even better battery life. Trust me. Use it.
And if you have the 2.1 update then there is an almost 1-click root method on the villainrom.co.uk forum.
I wanted to get the Desire HD but because of the stock issues with carriers, just went to o2 and got my self a Htc HD 7 and just loving it
I havent used a windows phone before but i think Microsoft has done a decent job, although a software update will go long way with more apps in the market will help as well
guys the 4:3 inch screen phones are goody, dont even feel like using my comp any more.
I'm due to upgrade my GSM Hero on January 4th. I'll definitely miss it but I always like to get a new handset come upgrade time.
I'm currently torn between the Desire HD and Galaxy S, however both of them have issues that bother me. The main ones being:
Desire HD - Battery life is reported to be very poor. Speaker quality not great. Possibly a bit too big also. LCD screen not as good as Samsung AMOLED.
Galaxy S - No Sense UI. Suffers lag out the box (fixed with custom ROMs and tweaks). Also quite a platsicy phone compared to the HTCs I'm used to. Looks like an iPhone 3GS. Also, it doesn't bode well for Samsung when XDA members can fix things they themselves can't!
I'm almost tempted to wait it our for the new series of dual-core Android handsets like the LG Star / new Moto phone but I'm not sure if / when they will be released in the UK. The Galaxy S II and Nexus 2 are tempting too but again, it's a case of if / when they are released in the UK.
One thing is for sure though, I'll definitely be sticking with Android.
BISDAKinLA said:
i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
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I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
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Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
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Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
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Thanks, I'll try to root my phone this weekend.
I was thinking of upgrading my Hero as well and was planning on getting the Nexus S but that has left me very underwhelmed so I'm not going to bother. There's nothing else out there that I'd be willing to spend my hard earned on.
I think many of us wanted the nexus s.....not sure now
I'm gonna change it for the Nexus S in january. The Hero has been great but its time for something new
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Have ditched my Hero
Hi Guys,
After lots of fun with my Hero and the great ROMs that are around here made it more fun.
Today I became the proud owner of the Desire HD how great is this huge screen, and the speed. It makes the Hero look so obsolete!
Still this was my best phone ever! Androided and rooted for life thanks to my Hero.
Ofcourse going to root my Desire HD!
It seems as though the Desire HD is the upgrade of choice from the Hero.
Hopefully us Canadians will get a version that will support our 3G bands soon
I got sick of waiting for updates and waiting for Arabic language support , so I bought an iPhone 4 . I still have the htc hero and I will keep it for one more year .
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Ordered the Desizre Z earlier
Not sure what to do with this, maybe keep it and take it out when there's a chance I could lose/damage my phone, or sell it to envirofone or something for about £90 (which will also pay my early cancellation fee for Vodafone)
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
/rant off