It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
The lack of anything besides Vanilla 2.X roms here lately is a sign of the G1's retirement setting in fully. We all knew this was coming. As soon as they said 2.X would never be given to non rooted users, it was a big blow dealt. Now that we hardly see any new roms and the recent news of the G1 Blaze being very near to release, I think people are just waiting for the right upgrade to come along. Then the G1 will go to the great phone graveyard.
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It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
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Yeah, ditto, I've noticed the same thing for months now. We G1 users have not been forgotten though, we still have lots of developers who are still working hard for us. I mean, remember a few months ago when we didn't even have fully working eclair roms? Each of which had different broken features, back when OE, CE, and kings AOSP were the best 2.1 roms yet they all lacked camcorder, 3D, etc. Now we have fully functional hardware on froyo roms, We can load custom boot partitions, we can OC way past 528 Mhz, etc.
I have a few ideas to try to implement myself, but I am definately still learning. I just recently installed ubuntu on my main computer (windows sucks lol) and I'm working on building from CM source. Some of my (and other people's) ideas include a reverse ram hack and an OC OV kernel to overclock higher. Wish me luck
Besides, try not to thing about it as how much we have left, but how far we've come. (lol I linked to a song by the same name... listen to it the lyrics are powerful)
Yea. I own a g1 and a mytouch 3g both 32b.. i think i installed mostly every rom for the g1.. now rooting just got boring w. The g1.. i love the phone nd all.. i just dont want to see it go.. after every hack that came out for it.. i have to wait 2 year to get a new android device.. but i kno my g1 will hold up.. still best keyboard/touch screen phone too me..
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Bam, You nailed.. it!
I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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All the original MyTouch was a G1 without a keyboard unless you happen to have a 32a device. The 1.2 was a nice step up, but quickly outdated.
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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Im going to jump in and say YES! Why? Because I am deaf (read hearing impaired, profoundly deaf -- dont call me, nobody will answer, I cant hear you")
I got my first Dream in November 2009. It was because I was sick of the Sidekick and its baked-ness.
December 2009, I rooted the G1 because I quickly got sucked into the rooting forums and wanted to see what it could do.
I have been trying to figure out how to run this phone without phone.apk com.android.phone and Dialer. Its impossible since the telephony part is still tied into the SMS/MMS portions.
My point is...... the telephone part for a hearing user must use about...... say 1GHZ of space. What can this Dream do without all that phone?
I now own 6 Dreams, (1 bought, 5 rescued from the graveyard, all are working beautifully and I have big hopes for them one day) This is not just a phone. Its a beautiful piece of clocked machinery. I believe I will use a G1 until the day I die which will be within 6 decades.
So, instead of sending the G1's to the graveyard how about it
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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No, I want it to run Android(yes, i know its a linux kernel). I want it to play media, navigate/have maps on sd card so i can replace a standalone gps on long trips, I want it utilize any and all apps that it can, games too. And I want it to do all this w/o the telephone parts taking up precious space. I can put google voice/sipdroid on it for voip capabilities.
yeah. I also want to know if the 64 mb of ram that would be wasted on the baseband radio can be recovered.
I would never give up my G1 even though I said that in the first post but... the G1 is just to amazing to me. The current G1 I own has a screen cable issue so the screen constantly turns black when ever you touch the bottom certainly, now I have to use a P.O.S. Sidekick LX 2007 Brown temporarily until Project Emerald or the G1 Blaze. If I could fix the cable I would gladly use this G1 until it dies before I replace it.
Or you could buy a used g1 on craigslist for 75 bucks. hell, if you got friends with android that have upgraded you might be able to score a free one.
I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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HAHAHA nice I need to try that with some people. Hopefully some Dev's can get Gingerbread on the G1 and then I can make my friend more jealous because he'll probably have to wait till next year to get it on his phone.
It feels so good to have this G1. A device with out dated specs, but with capabilty of anything out there. Hmmmmm maybe if we just swap in a gpu.... we should build G1s.. just like they build computers
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I've been doing a lot of research, and reading on the G1 forum, but i was just curious what you guys thought about the new Tmobile G1. It looks like a really slick phone and I'm seriously thinking about ordering it.
I know a lot of people will post the "its awesome" pitch.... but honestly
pros: extremely powerful hardware with a very stable operating system.
cons: the operating system is very new... meaning that there is no real software or rom development out there for it.... meaning no customization. (and currently no real games at all!!!! lol)
conclusion: im happy enough with my wing that i PERSONALLY will stick with it for a while (especially with ttrans new 7.4 rom - great performance and plenty of space).... as soon as some real progress is made in development for android i will buy a G1
I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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Well if your that type of person then you will only be entertained by the G1 for about a week... i've been doing some reseach on it and most of the reviews say that its pretty basic and needs work by developers! the only reason i would get one is the fact that it has the hardware to support 3G..but my location wont have it till next year so im happy with my wing!!
i personally love my wing
i can see my self upgrading to the touch pro instead of the g1
i ilke the innovative look the the g1 but if i get some hand on with it i can see which phone i will go to
i have had a lot of hands on with the touch diamond so i can fix a lot of the issues with the touch pro if i get it
Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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i think i will i do want to try the g1 but i dont like how limited the 3g coverage is but it does look like a good phone
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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amen to that
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amen to that
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Hey congrats on your 100th post. You are officially a SENIOR member. Glad I could help!
i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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Nah, I'm going to wait and do more research and see what programs, roms, and games become available. I think I'll stick with the wing for now, and just mod and flash roms every other week! lol. But, the G1 is only 179 so thats a huge price drop. Either way, I really can't wait to see what becomes available for the G1.
what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
G1 vs Wing
This month in PC Magazine (October 2008) Sascha Sagan, the director of new product reviews, said this,"never buy a product in the first few weeks after it comes out. Wait a month. By then... you will be able to tell if something is really worth a buy".
My two cents,
Paul D.
G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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Yeah I agree. Seeing how this phone is really meant to be modified, I can't even imagine the amount of software, roms, mods, etc there will be for this phone. I do think it will take some time, so I believe I will hold off, but I'm pretty excited about it.
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
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that is exactly what i want. i just want to keep useing windows mobile. it has been around for ever (ce). hopefully someone in the linux community will figure out how to flash it to what ever you want.
I am a G1/Wing owner. I got my G1 2 days ago and i can tell you, i am very happy with the phone so far. I do miss using TTran's OPT and hope they port TouchFlo2D to Android. The Manilla Theme is the best i've seen!
I am also one of those people that would much rather run Linux on my PCs at home, but don't because i am in the IT field so i need to stay current on Windows. Anyhow, I understand people wanting to wait and recommend most do that. I am not usually the type to jump on a product at Version 1 until some updates and public testing has been done. But i am looking forward to Android's growing pains!
I just upgraded to a G1. What I did was, when the G1 presale was announced, I called to say I was going to cancel my service soon and asked what they would offer to keep me. The CS rep asked what I had in mind. I said I wanted the to see if there was a way to get the G1 with 1 a year contract. The CS rep told me not until after the actual launch but she would lower my unlimited family text messaging to $9.99 permanently if I would wait until the launch to decide. I agreed. So today, I called back for the G1. They offered me the G1 for $179 + NO $18 upgrade fee if I agreed to keep my four lines for 1 year. So, that's what I did. I wasn't going to cancel anyway because, it's hard top beat T-Mo's rates, even if the coverage is a little weaker than other carriers in my area. My Wing will likely be up for sale after I evaluate the G1.
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I just canceled my order. I don't want to put $800 on the line to save $300.
I have been a loyal T-mobile customer since 2003, so when I had to move to Iowa, I tried really hard to live with the local roaming partner and my G1. After many problems with my service and signal strength at home, I decided to move on. I want to give T-mobile credit here, because I had 15 months left on my contract and they waived the ETF. Thanks to them and here is a rare story for everyone of some good customer service reguarding ETFs. I travel out of the country a few times a year, so I wanted a GSM phone that I could take with me. In my area, that really only left me with the roaming partner I had been frustrated with, (Iowa Wireless) and AT&T. Timing was just right, so I went ahead and bought 2 3GS iPhones for my wife and I. I did get my G1's unlocked and they are for sell if anyone's interested, (one rooted, one stock, both black, one has a small ding from a drop, the other's perfect, make an offer) but I've always wanted to try an iPhone out for myself and this just worked out well for us. I love Android, the open-ness of it, the customization possible and the general ability to tinker and hack it is very appealing to me. That being said, the 3GS is a great phone. The video recording is the best on any phone I've ever used or seen firsthand. I'm sure some of the unlocked HTC or Nokia phones that cost 400, 500 or 800 bucks can match or beat it. But for a subsidized US carried phone I am impressed. Also, the anti-fingerpring oleophobic (probably spelled that wrong) coating is amazing. A friend stopped by with a 3G iPhone and the difference was amazing. Also the speed difference is very very noticable. People here bash some ROM's for being too slow or not "snappy" enough compared to others. The difference between a 3G and te 3GS is way more than any difference I experienced with the roms I tried on my G1. I know this is a HTC dream forum, but as a big Android fan, I wanted to share my experience with the switch. Now after the HTC Hero comes out, among many other different versions of Android phones, I'd place my bets on them. For now, however, the new iPhone is hard to beat in my opinion.
Also, I have not posted very many times as I rarely have any useful input that hasn't already been shared, but I have used this forum so much for the last year. Thanks to everyone who contributes here. Without XDA the G1 and Android wouldn't be near the phone and platform they are.
ive got a g1 and a iphone 2g. i like both of them a lot but even the iphone 2g is a better and faster phone than tha g1
The reason I liked my G1 is totally different than why I like my iphone. Honestly, my G1 was almost a hobby by itself. This started when I got my old Nokia 5300 and started tinkering with it. Then I got a T-mobile Shadow / HTC Juno. Windows Mobile is kind of a pain in the ass, but there's no questioning all the capabilities you can get on your phone if you're patient enough. With Android it was all about what can my phone do next? With the iphone its, damn, this phone actually made my day easier and more enjoyable. So far I use my iphone's capabilites more than I did the G1.
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The reason I liked my G1 is totally different than why I like my iphone. Honestly, my G1 was almost a hobby by itself. This started when I got my old Nokia 5300 and started tinkering with it. Then I got a T-mobile Shadow / HTC Juno. Windows Mobile is kind of a pain in the ass, but there's no questioning all the capabilities you can get on your phone if you're patient enough. With Android it was all about what can my phone do next? With the iphone its, damn, this phone actually made my day easier and more enjoyable. So far I use my iphone's capabilites more than I did the G1.
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I guess in this sense its arguable that the iPhone's reliability factor beats the G1. However, I think if we all dropped the custom ROMs and Apps2SD we might be able to gain that reliability factor the iPhone has through the stock ROMs. I don't see many people flashing custom ROMs onto iPhones now ;D
True, we are all blazing ahead with custom G1 roms that aren't as clean or ultimately reliable as the OEM's (although once again the custom roms are a huge part of why I think we all love android). I never really had a problem with reliability on my G1. I kept a copy of a ROM I knew worked well at all times on my sd card and only had to use it once when apps2sd went a little haywire one day. I just don't feel the need to modify the iphone as much as I did with the G1. The one thing I wasn't looking foward to was giving up the G1's actual keyboard. This has proven to be easier than I thought it would be. I can type pretty fast on the iphone. Not as quick or error free as my G1, but it's getting easier and hasn't been the stubling block I thouth it would be. I am a huge google user though and I miss the close connectivity the G1 had more than anything so far.
Seriously? This discussion AGAIN?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527614
The big thing is that the G1 LETS us modify it, the iPhone... does not.
g1 has potential to be great but is hindered by internal specifications by the devices in which their released with. as soon as there is a phone with the same internal specs as the iphone whatever generation it may be then we will see android pure potential.
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g1 has potential to be great but is hindered by internal specifications by the devices in which their released with. as soon as there is a phone with the same internal specs as the iphone whatever generation it may be then we will see android pure potential.
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i think thats called the HTC Hero
never had the I phone, but i had many clones and many touch phones in the last 2 years and have many friends with the i phone 3g 3gs and there sorry as in the look and fell they are a nice device. as in speed pssst. my G1 smoked any i phone on 3g with stocked webkit and there browser and on wifi they where still lodading java pics and i was all ready browsing face book. and now with the rooting vs pawing or what ever it is that u do to unlock the i phone remember the first unlocked i phone had to be cracked open and rewired. the first g1 was a change in a bash file directory lol. The i phone is the jessus phone dont get me wrong but the g1 and android are the gods that every person prays to when there phone is stolen broken or lost.
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i think thats called the HTC Hero
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Not really, the htc hero is identical to the dream except for double the flash/ram and it doesn't have a keyboard. Junk in my opinion.
The Sony X2 looks interesting though, assuming that it'll be possible to root/customize it and ditch their goofy UI.
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Not really, the htc hero is identical to the dream except for double the flash/ram and it doesn't have a keyboard. Junk in my opinion.
The Sony X2 looks interesting though, assuming that it'll be possible to root/customize it and ditch their goofy UI.
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one word...."Rachel"
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one word...."Rachel"
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Yeah, except no hard keyboard, no call buttons, and no trackball/d-pad. Its like one step forward, three steps back.
Hey guys i need some motivation here.
Im really starting to hate my G1, there really is nothing wrong with it, i just feel like im living in the stone age. Im stuck running 1.6 roms in general because they are the only ones that seem to work 100% and are actually fast and meet my standards.
However these days 1.6 is ancient technology, and the G1 cant seem to handle any improvement, anytime i try an eclair rom its slow as hell and has the lack of drivers so its all hackjobs trying to get everything to work right, the hardware is EXTREMELY outdated, even though its only a year+ old things have progressed massively since then.
It wouldnt suprise me if they discontinue the G1 in favor of the new Mytouch Slide as that would seem to be the natural progression of things, so then i was looking the other day at Verizon and here they are with the Droid Incredible with a spec sheet made of gold
Why should i keep my G1, honestly? Its crippled to 1.6 based roms if you want 100% full functionality, and if you want anything more then that you rely on hackjobs to get everything running right and sacrifice a good amount of speed, when you can just go buy a new phone that comes 100% out of the box with a 2.1 rom and it will run it great all day long with no issues and everything working.
What happens after 2.1? What happens when 2.2 or 2.4 or whatever comes after that?? Our G1s can barely handle 2.01 much less anything that may come after eclair, im just looking at my G1 like an ancient relic with outdated hardware and need some advice, to keep or to leave.
The G1 is an older phone with hardware that was decent when it was released, but has been surpassed by newer technology. That's all there is to it. It's still a good, fun phone.
You have to think of it as you think of any other technology though. Buy a high end computer and in a year it's equivalent to the lowest of the low. If you bought a Mustang GT a year ago, you'd probably be disappointed to see that it's similar to the new V6 Mustang's. The same goes with ALL phones. You should be glad that the phone's still getting love from developers and nearly all apps and games are compatible with it.
I don't need 2.0/2.1 or any future updates to keep me content with the phone. If I start hating it or feel an extreme need for something better by the time my upgrade comes around, I'm most likely going for another Android device. Maybe you should too if you're just not feeling the G1 anymore.
Super D is the fastest ROM I've used on the G1, by far. it's fast enough for my uses. If it's too slow for you, you need to upgrade. Me, I'm sticking with the G1 for a while, because the Nexus is too expensive, and nothing else appeals to me. Except an iPhone running Android ... but that one's still in progress ...
cyan has a 2.1 rom with hardware acceleration just around the corner. how does multiple google accounts, live wallpapers, fully working drivers and the usual cyan tweaks sound?
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whered you hear that from?
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whered you hear that from?
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He mentioned it on twitter...
If all you want is a fast, mainstream phone ... get an iphone. The G1 is pure freedom from all the BS youll deal with using something else.
If you're at the point where you need someone else to convince you to stick with the G1, well, i think you have your answer already.
meh.
I have a G1 with a 1.6 rom that has Eclair bits in it. Maybe that's how you need to look at it: what parts of 2.1 is really important for you? Multitouch on browser, maps? Plenty of 1.6 roms have it. I personally have no problems staying with 1.6 since all the necessary items from 2.1 is already ported to the rom, so I'm not really missing out on all the good stuff.
The CSDI roms in all honesty have been very fast and stable. I know I'll keep my G1 for at least another year until Tmo gets some decent phones (N1 is nice, but I'm holding out.) When 2.2 comes out I'm sure the devs will port bits and pieces to the G1 and keeps us G1 owners happy.
If you're truly not liking it anymore, then I would go and get a different phone. There's nothing wrong with that.
You should keep the G1 because it is honestly the best overall device that I have used that has a keyboard. I switched from the G1 to the N1 and then to a BlackBerry because I realized how much I needed a keyboard for typing emails and whatnot. The G1 seems to offer everything that I wanted: Android, keyboard, touchscreen, and most of all, customization. The only major downside to the G1 for me was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I would say the successor to the G1 would be the Droid, but it's not a GSM phone so I can't really use it.
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If all you want is a fast, mainstream phone ... get an iphone. The G1 is pure freedom from all the BS youll deal with using something else.
If you're at the point where you need someone else to convince you to stick with the G1, well, i think you have your answer already.
meh.
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You, get off the forum.
Yeah some secret eclair roms coming out with massive speed enhanced roms apparently. Just wait man, the future is near for us (eh no shet)
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You should keep the G1 because it is honestly the best overall device that I have used that has a keyboard. I switched from the G1 to the N1 and then to a BlackBerry because I realized how much I needed a keyboard for typing emails and whatnot. The G1 seems to offer everything that I wanted: Android, keyboard, touchscreen, and most of all, customization. The only major downside to the G1 for me was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I would say the successor to the G1 would be the Droid, but it's not a GSM phone so I can't really use it.
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There's a gsm version of the droid dude :\
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There's a gsm version of the droid dude :\
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I know... but last I checked the Milestone doesn't work on 3G for my carrier, but I'm not sure on that.
let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
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Ok, i prefer not to think of that situation though
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
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Hard to say if i get another HD2 as there are many other phones out there with the same spec as an HD2. But if there were not id buy an HD2 in a moment as its a great phone, great screen, excellent call quality, active rom creating community for upgraded / custom roms .. Yeah it is a great device and id give it some thought if id have to purchase a new one ..
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
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Probably id get a DroidX when it arrives. It has a similar spec and screen size as the HD2 and looks very nice .. Id be able to surf the web no probs on that device which is the primary reason i bought the HD2, so for me any device that has a large screen for web surfing and allows me to make a call once in a while would do me fine .. Hey would the 5" Dell Streak be too big for the pocket, hmm id give that one some thought too
Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
I love my leo too, buti'll buy a droidX if I have to change quicker.
I like it, but prefer android based OS.
So if I could get as big a screen with TMOUSA, then I would change.
I'll wait for HD3
no, I will never buy such device.
Why? read my posts, there and then on this forum, including compete list of what's very wrong with it.
In short:
-poor support
-poor amount of updates, actually over because HTC discontinued the device
-official rom suck and is buggy
-HTC's philosophy to attack the one making roms
-Stupid design (sound, power button on the front, etc...)
Etc...
Also, I look competition and I see new Motorolla X, and I'm tempted to say: wow.
I heard feedback from people with droid and they did not have to wait custom roms to say "it works"...
If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
Well, I ran into such a situation. My HD2 was not recognizing any sim card 50% of the time. And when it did, it only lasted for a short while. After trying all non invasive fixes, I decided to "operate" on it, taking it down to the screen. Still couldnt get it right. So I bought another one. I think it is a great phone for what I use it for. And, now I have a parts phone!
interesting question
Currently happned to me something similar. Phone has fallen out of my pocket on the ground, it was only 50-60cm, but screen is broken like if someone throw it against a bricked wall.
It will cost me at least 150EUR, bad luck. They do not repair only glass because is stick together with display and removing can break it.
I saw it at some thread ,that this is more problem of the hole around hw keys at the bottom. So basicly the design of the front panel, when phone is falling at bottom side.
But if it will be destroyed completely, I am not sure, but probably I will buy something else:
- phone itself is almost 9 months old, there are or shortly will be better phones
- there are still bugs after almost a year, and if they are solved they are not available for customers, for example official region version differencies
- is good that somewhere at forum is ROM which helps with battery consumption in standby mode, but you are not able to use it, basicly you are forced to break waranty otherwise you will be keep on usatisfied with device and forced to wait for official version for your region and wait and etc.
I like this device, but I am not blind to see weak points of the device or company policy, so it is almost 50-50 but time is ticking and competition will bring us better phones soon, I am optimist
If that happened tomorrow, Id get a HTC Desire.
If it happened just before the Nokia E5 is released, Id go buy a cheapo phone to tide me over till E5's release.
HD2s are really cheap now on ebay, and I have a pretty fair library built up already so chances are good I'd pick up another one. Although it's equally likely I'd get a big Dell Streak. I mean have you seen the thing? Its keyboard has a numeric keypad!!!
If I absolutely needed a phone immediately, it would be a toss up between another HD2 or iPhone 4. Android on the HD2 seems closer every day so having that option would be nice - but I've got WinMo exactly how I like it and I don't mind it at all. Further, lets face it, the 4.3" screen size is just spoiling. I wouldn't switch for an Evo, and the DroidX is just TOO big.
If I could wait a few months, I'd look for a HD3 / other WP7 device... or an iPhone 4.
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If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
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nope, i want to move to the other platform
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0% chance that i will buy blackberry
5% chance: that i will buy iphone 4
15% chance that i will buy n900
25% chance that i will buy the nokia n8
10% chance that i will buy the meego device
45% chance that i will buy the android device
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Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
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Ditto, Desire all the way. I am looking into Android a little more lately, I most probably won't, but I am trying to persuade myself to buy one.
I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else.
Having said that it would be a close call i am due an upgrade on one of my contracts and was looking yesterday on the vodafone site, jeepers have you seen the prices on the Iphone 4's, flipping eck even if i wanted one i wouldn't get one, thats one expensive phone...
And having had a look around i've decided to stay with my HD2 for a while until something else comes out...
"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
Android is the future
I know that hurts, especially all of us that have HD2(Windows mobile), but Android based devices are future. So probably if I broke my phone(I hope not), I will buy EVO or Desire. But I want to point out, i will never buy iPhone 4.
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"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
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Well, after reading all the previous posts, I was almost convinced to change to Droids, but reading your post, and the fact that you had TYTNII like i did, and you tried Droid for a year, i am sure you have a good point that droids are goo for social networking (showing off) and WM is good for business, and business is what i need.
but reading other posts and looking at my past 4 years experience in HTC, i am more than convinced that HTC company sucks, so i will try to find a better WM device from another company, but i am not sure if there is any
I've posted in Android General here as I reckon it's those of us who have switched OSs who are getting a Second Life(TM) from their HD2s...
Personally, I am finding my phone experience so different from the WinMo days. At that time I was always switching ROMs, always trying to get better use from the phone/solve the glitches, but never quite getting there (altho there is/was fantastic work from the ROM devs here)
But now with Android, I find my experience is great, and glitch-free. I'm still always playing with new ROMs, but only for the excitement of new features rather than to solve annoyances. I've had my HD2 a year and I personally think I could stay with it even another 2 years.
The hardware has been (imo) perfected for the current time (4.3" screen, decent processor, nice form-factor, expandable micro-SD), and all the excitement now is in Google's OS improvements, with perhaps two new iterations of Android planned for this year. Even to the extent that I would be tempted to buy a spare HD2 for future use (as my hardware buttons may be about to give way...)
The only features that could cause me to upgrade are:
- Pico Projector (but as a novelty appealing to my geekiness than anything useful)
- HDMI-out (which again, I think I would get use out of perhaps 4 times a year, and as a novelty the rest of the time)
- Maybe a hardware keyboard a la HD7 Pro, but only if it has Android and was as a free upgrade
But apart from that, here is to an almost perfect hardware phone, now matched by perfect and evolving software. Long live HD2!!
So how long do you think you will stay with the HD2?
well my hd2 felt down several times to the floor and has some scratches at the rubber edges now. further i have the "jitterbug" of the touchscreen since first day (is mostly handable with swype)!
so let me think about your question... i guess i will stick to my hd2 for another year! want to buy a device with a hardware keyboard after that.
I agree with you in many ways smeddy. For me the HD2 is perfect in terms of it's size and layout (personally I do not want a hardware keyboard), the processor is snappy enough, the ability to expand the storage with an sd card is brilliant especially with a2sd+ and such like - for me I would have prefered a 1024TMOUS just for the extra space.
The only thing I can see on the horizon that may tempt me away is the Motorola Atria
For me, the only reason i'd upgrade is for more internal memory, say a 8/16gb device, since i'm feeling threatened by my lack of space. So i guess i'll keep my hd2 for maybe 4 months to a year.
I'll probably be keeping it for another year or so till I am due for re-contract. The phone served me well and its still doing well, probably I will get an andriod tablet if I need to make video call from oversea
will use it till it stops working
Waiting for htc dual core
I'll keep mine until this becomes true
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2011/01/09/2ghz-motorola-atrix-coming-to-orange-soon/
this year will be the year for Motorola
Holy Shi# that thing is sick. I seen one of the devs talk about that phone on irc. Never knew what it was.
I bought it relatively late ...Still have it for a year now without a scratch!The phone has served me well.The options between OSs,the design/yes i really like it !/the functions,the hardware,the display...It is perfect!It is now a LeoNANDroid and i like it even better!
I like how the little Apple fanboys mistake it for iPhone4,i like how the people at my provider's store look like that when they see im runnin Linux/Android.Maybe the only thing i miss is 720p recording...So basicaly i will run it till it dies,then il buy anotherone if i can^^.The best spent $400 in my life!
I'll keep it until something better comes along that makes it worth upgrading. The Moto Atrix looks nice, hardware list wise, but I'll skip it due to it being Motorola. Other companies will release an equivalent or better.
Going back to a slide-out keyboard is very tempting as well.
Ill keep hold of mine for a bit,maybe wait for the Desire HD to come down in price,see what Htc bring at the MWC in Feb,in the mean time im happy with it
good opening post.
I love my HD2 on Android (wish it was a TMOUS though with the additional on board mem.)
NAND Android rocks and I love the hardware and (now) software on the phone.
Would just like a better camera with a real flash ... 720p recording?
So at the moment nothing on the market matches it.
GG
Late to the party but i have just ordered one, had a Blackstone up until Christmas and can't resist the tweakability and amount of OS's this thing can deliver!
Can see myself owning it for at least 2 years!
I have been using HD2 for little over a year. I have flashed so many roms on it; I lost count a long time ago. However, the screen started freezing right before the Android NAND boot came out. I still flashed NAND on my phone to see it works and it did but without the touch screen.
I send my phone to HTC for repair last week and it is on the way back. I am planning to keep it for at least another year. The only thing I am missing is a front camera for video chatting and the ability to go 4G. I don’t do a lot of video chatting and the 4G is only available at selected location.
I like everything about this phone! The look, the feel, everything…. I don’t have a reason to change the HD2. The support which is available for the phone out there is incredible. When I get bored with a particular style, I flash a new rom! If we get to a point where we use 4G every day, I might change to a 4G phone. Or they have to invent a phone which will make me breakfast, lunch and dinner!
HD2 is definitely a keeper.
How long do you think you will keep your HD2 ?
That's a question that can only be answered by my wife's wallet
Cheers,
/Cacti
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will use it till it stops working
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The Atrix does look interesting. Thanks for he heads-up.
I think "use it until it stops working" is the most concise way of stating it
Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact
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Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact
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Thanks man - it's appreciated
I've moved about a bit, but keep ending up back in Northampton. It's a good place, as is Wellingborough. If you ever need any assistance, come round my house Not really
BIGUP The Northants!!!