[REF]Write 3D Games and apps: a C#/.NET Compact Framework wrapper for OpenGLES - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps

Update 8/10:
I published a 3D game called Sensory Overload. Full source is included.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2508955#post2508955
Initial Post 8/08
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I've been doing 3d graphics development for a while, and it's really exciting to finally own a Windows Mobile device that has hardware acceleration.
I'm also primarily a managed developer, and I know a lot of people are in the same boat. If you're looking to access the 3d hardware acceleration of the HTC Touch Diamond, then you will be interested in this managed library for OpenGL. The download includes the full source for the wrapper and the sample "spinning triangle" application that goes with it.
Have fun coding, and let me know if you find any bugs!

Koush said:
I've been doing 3d graphics development for a while, and it's really exciting to finally own a Windows Mobile device that has hardware acceleration.
I'm also primarily a manager developer, and I know a lot of people are in the same boat. If you're looking to access the 3d hardware acceleration of the HTC Touch Diamond, then you will be interested in this managed library for OpenGL. The download includes the full source for the wrapper and the sample "spinning triangle" application that goes with it.
Have fun coding, and let me know if you find any bugs!
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So the rendering is done by the GPU rather than CPU - didn't think anyone accessed the hardware yet through the driver???

By querying the device via D3D and OpenGL, you can verify that they are both indeed hardware accelerated. Incidentally, it was the Diamond drivers that provided a breakthrough for hackers to provide hardware acceleration for the Kaiser devices.

Koush said:
I've been doing 3d graphics development for a while, and it's really exciting to finally own a Windows Mobile device that has hardware acceleration.
I'm also primarily a managed developer, and I know a lot of people are in the same boat. If you're looking to access the 3d hardware acceleration of the HTC Touch Diamond, then you will be interested in this managed library for OpenGL. The download includes the full source for the wrapper and the sample "spinning triangle" application that goes with it.
Have fun coding, and let me know if you find any bugs!
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Wowz! This is GREAT news! Want me to stick the thread?

wow, nice work mate!!

Menneisyys said:
Wowz! This is GREAT news! Want me to stick the thread?
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STICK IT STICK IT - lets make sure it gets alot of attention

CutePinkSox said:
STICK IT STICK IT - lets make sure it gets alot of attention
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OK, I stick it. Hope the original poster will work on the project further

wow, that's really nice, I never developed graphics things and I only know a bit of vb.net but during holidays maybe I'll give a try!!! thanks and go on!

Menneisyys said:
OK, I stick it. Hope the original poster will work on the project further
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Thanks! Functionally, it is a complete implementation of a way to access OpenGL through managed code. However, there are some small things I want to do to make it easier for developers to write applications for OpenGL.
Implement/port GLU
Implement/port GLUT
Change the constants that are passed into OpenGL into enums so that it makes it easier for to see a list of valid arguments in Intellisense. This will also address some of the loose typing that is typical of OpenGL.
Implement a fixed point sample that works with the Vincent 3D software implementation of OpenGL.

Thanks for the great news. But how about the unmanaged way (c++)? Which header file(s) should be referenced?

A_C said:
Thanks for the great news. But how about the unmanaged way (c++)? Which header file(s) should be referenced?
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You *should* be able to use the libs and headers provided by the Vincent3D software OpenGL implementation. Just don't copy the Libgles_cm.dll to your device, or it will actually use software rendering instead. My website post has a link to that site.
You will want to link to libgles_cm.lib and just #include gl.h and egl.h.

I published a 3D game called Sensory Overload. Full source is included.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2508955#post2508955

Studied on Microsoft's XNA last half year, have been wanting to try if I could use any of it on the Diamond. If not, I guess this is the next best thing atm. Thanks

Played around a little bit with that and built something to load Milkshape 3D models and display them... Not too much horsepowers in the GPU though. I guess some really old-school 3D skills are required to get decent graphics out of the chip.
Is there any info on how much RAM is dedicated to the graphics chip? I wonder if things are mostly fillrate limited there or if texture count is the real impact. Maybe I'll try that later on with a number of simple but all differently textured models with loads of overdraw so the Z-Buffer can pretty much eliminate fillrate limitations to see if texture size is the real problem here. Once that is found out it shouldn't be too hard to get a little game-world up and running.
I'm thinking in the lines of a G-Sensor driven rollerball thingie for starters - a little bit like tweeter from a 3rd person perspective with some interesting levels? If that runs smoothly on the diamond it would be a real show-off kind of game
The thing I haven't done before here is the physics part. Obviously you wouldn't want to run a fully fledged physics simulation (ODE comes to mind here) especially when doing it in C# - but there should be enough CPU power to handle some sphere-? collisions in a timely manner?
Cheers,
Alex

dajudge01 said:
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I'm thinking in the lines of a G-Sensor driven rollerball thingie for starters - a little bit like tweeter from a 3rd person perspective with some interesting levels? If that runs smoothly on the diamond it would be a real show-off kind of game
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you may want to join this thread and participate in the project

dajudge01 said:
Played around a little bit with that and built something to load Milkshape 3D models and display them... Not too much horsepowers in the GPU though. I guess some really old-school 3D skills are required to get decent graphics out of the chip.
Is there any info on how much RAM is dedicated to the graphics chip? I wonder if things are mostly fillrate limited there or if texture count is the real impact. Maybe I'll try that later on with a number of simple but all differently textured models with loads of overdraw so the Z-Buffer can pretty much eliminate fillrate limitations to see if texture size is the real problem here. Once that is found out it shouldn't be too hard to get a little game-world up and running.
I'm thinking in the lines of a G-Sensor driven rollerball thingie for starters - a little bit like tweeter from a 3rd person perspective with some interesting levels? If that runs smoothly on the diamond it would be a real show-off kind of game
The thing I haven't done before here is the physics part. Obviously you wouldn't want to run a fully fledged physics simulation (ODE comes to mind here) especially when doing it in C# - but there should be enough CPU power to handle some sphere-? collisions in a timely manner?
Cheers,
Alex
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16 MB 12 Pipe GFX Chip cannot remember where i read it...

Here are the Direct 3D Drivers from the omnia, working great on the Diamond, check it out!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474

Jin187 said:
Here are the Direct 3D Drivers from the omnia, working great on the Diamond, check it out!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474
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Anything that works better with these drivers installed?

Just doing a sprite backup then I am going to try those drivers, wonder what will happen

Jorlin said:
Anything that works better with these drivers installed?
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Yes, you can read the 3d text in the demos.
But with the drivers installed they run a lot slower!
Maybe vsync enabeld/disabled.
TDO

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GAME Fallout ENG 1.0 RPG

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Pocket Fallout ENG 1.0
Requirements: any QVGA, VGA device (not working well on widescreen devices)
Overview: Long waited PocketPC clone of the famous Fallout game
More Infoocket F.A.L.L.O.U.T. - A unique FREE, platform role-playing game for mobile devices based on Windows Mobile 2003, WM5, WM 6.x, as well as desktop PCs based on the OS Win9x, WinXP, Vista, which allows the user to plunge into the boundless world postnuclear, limitless wasteland. The project is based on the immortal series of the game Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.
Code:
http://www.pocketfallout.net/
Download Instructions:
http://anonym.to/?http://www.ziddu.com/downloadlink/3340238/PocketFALLOUT_v.1.0_eng.zip
Mirrors:
http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/191286629/PocketFALLOUT_v.1.0_eng.zip
http://anonym.to/?http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CSTZPEZZ
_________________________________________________________
Here are some tips on the game:
Open config.cfg
change player_name={yourname} - the nick you want to use for the game
always_run={1} - to make it always run - moves a lot faster, i have played fallout 2 with always run it is a lot easyer and faster
the status things must be set to off because they eat aditional resources (you may try them before disable them):
show_fps={0}
memory_status={0}
battery_status={0}
Great! Download and testing now
I just got this but is it all in russian? Im gonna try it out in the morning and post back.
ok well I answered my own question there are two downloads one in russian and one in english
install instructions link does not work
volcomnator999 said:
install instructions link does not work
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Yep, instructions link is dead. Downloading english now and will update tomorrow. Hope it works out good, loved fallout 4 on xbox 360! Way too short of a game though, wish it was as long as Oblivion. Oh well. Thanks!
45mb??
before You get overexcited let me clarify few things:
- it is not a port. it's fallout-like product (clone as devs would like to call it) without an option to play original f1, f2 files. it's got it's own story which takes place in Russia
- translation to english is HORRIBLE. I really hope that someone like hotforwords is going to help those guys to make it useful.
- it does work quite well, but gameplay is slightly different from original.
anyway... this may be interesting in the future, but all my hopes are with soon-to-be-released fpsece 0.1.
br
bro
Doesn't work on my Touch....
I can't select anything in the main menu.....
loved fallout 4 on xbox 360
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yeah, interesting..i had fallout 17 on timex watch, it is cool.
it's fallout-like product
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..f1/2 story can be made, more or less with that engine, tho.
translation to english is HORRIBLE.
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You may translate it for us ( mhmmm...).
soon-to-be-released fpsece 0.1
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soon means years
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tip: set battery_status={1} to 0 for better performance.
flaviopac said:
Doesn't work on my Touch....
I can't select anything in the main menu.....
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try wvgafix
the translation is pretty bad but its not bad enough to not play the game...works great on the kaiser
volcomnator999 said:
install instructions link does not work
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Yes they work just fine
deeznuts said:
Yep, instructions link is dead.
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No it's not
deeznuts said:
loved fallout 4 on xbox 360!
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No you're not. You loved Fallout 3 on Xbox 360. - just messing with you i know it's just a typo
nothin said:
1. ..f1/2 story can be made, more or less with that engine, tho.
2. You may translate it for us ( mhmmm...).
3. soon means years
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siemasz nothin...
1. f1/2 story can be made indeed, but converting all the files may take ages. whatever...
2. I won't translate it, as my native language is not russian, so that's why I have suggested that some proper translator should be used instead of some pc translator.
3. well... I would be careful saying many years, as this project is alive and near completion. some Russian hackers have stolen some alpha version of it, but schtruck and ldchen have decided to continue their work anyway. I would say that it's a matter of weeks to get it finished. please follow fpsece forum before saying something silly...
pozdrawiam
bro
Here are some tips on the game:
Open config.cfg
change player_name={yourname} - the nick you want to use for the game
always_run={1} - to make it always run - moves a lot faster, i have played fallout 2 with always run it is a lot easyer and faster
the status things must be set to off because they eat aditional resources (you may try them before disable them):
show_fps={0}
memory_status={0}
battery_status={0}
bronx said:
siemasz nothin...
3. well... I would be careful saying many years, as this project is alive and near completion. some Russian hackers have stolen some alpha version of it, but schtruck and ldchen have decided to continue their work anyway. I would say that it's a matter of weeks to get it finished. please follow fpsece forum before saying something silly...
pozdrawiam
bro
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salut!
i know that.
i am on their forums since ...2005...i dont especially care about saying "something silly" there, you know, i can live without 0.10...i have atari st, amiga, atari xl, c64, snes, nes, gb, gba, cps1, cps2, sega, pc emulators for ppc, so i can handle..
i am just bored by waiting..
problem is, that nobody cares about stolen version, people just want to have something useful.
btw, look closely - you'll know WHO exactly stole thing(it took me 20 mins to know that) - just look on 4pda.ru forum.
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btw, bronx , are you author of pocketfallout?
if so, i must say it is impressive job!
but need to ask:
why game's crashing just after i kill something(ants, scorpions), ants - 30% chance, scorpions almost 100% chance.
i have redownloaded zip, still same problem.
i have plenty of memory free, xscale cpu, still crashing.
next thing: why you used such strange pathfinding method...it is SO annoying now..i've seen on russian subforum exact visualisation of the problem made by someone.
small idea: scrolling might be i.e. 10 px step instead of nightmarish fluid BUT slow method..
impatiently waiting for answer, or next versions,
best regards...
Gandhi70 said:
try wvgafix
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I own a Touch.... ELF!
nothin said:
salut!
i know that.
i am on their forums since ...2005...i dont especially care about saying "something silly" there, you know, i can live without 0.10...i have atari st, amiga, atari xl, c64, snes, nes, gb, gba, cps1, cps2, sega, pc emulators for ppc, so i can handle..
i am just bored by waiting..
problem is, that nobody cares about stolen version, people just want to have something useful.
btw, look closely - you'll know WHO exactly stole thing(it took me 20 mins to know that) - just look on 4pda.ru forum.
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btw, bronx , are you author of pocketfallout?
if so, i must say it is impressive job!
but need to ask:
why game's crashing just after i kill something(ants, scorpions), ants - 30% chance, scorpions almost 100% chance.
i have redownloaded zip, still same problem.
i have plenty of memory free, xscale cpu, still crashing.
next thing: why you used such strange pathfinding method...it is SO annoying now..i've seen on russian subforum exact visualisation of the problem made by someone.
small idea: scrolling might be i.e. 10 px step instead of nightmarish fluid BUT slow method..
impatiently waiting for answer, or next versions,
best regards...
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hm... I am really confused now. where did You get it from that I am the author of PF?? no, I am not an author of it and I am not related with anyone involved in this project.
imho this game does have quite large potential indeed, but it is nothing really special at this stage.
regarding fpsece I don't really care about who was that hacker, the important thing is that project isn't dead. don't get me wrong, but I beileve that real psx emu is kind of an ultimate thing in gaming on pocket pc and while other emus are entertaining, I would swap ALL of them just for this one after it's complete.
jeszcze raz pozdrawiam i do poczytania to tu, to tam...
br
bro
p.s. sorry for the offtop guys
ok tried it out n so far here r my impression
i tried it out on my wizard and it worked the graphics were beatutiful n the opening sequence was so much like fallout the origional i had flashback but unfortunatly my wizard just aint strong enough to play it needs more power ah wel
but besides tht i tried it out on my PC and i found
one like someone said before the translation unfortunately leaves much to be desired
two n this is thw worst part on running through the trial building behind tht preast when i get to tht locked door i open it using the hack option but as soon as i step through it it hangs i tried it different ways but same results hopefully there would b some kind of fix for it
flaviopac said:
Doesn't work on my Touch....
I can't select anything in the main menu.....
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I have the same problem.

iPhone 3Gs user, played with HD2 today...help!

I am a true iphone user for a year now, but thats only because i always want to have the greatest phone. I had a touch diamond before from htc, and it sucked.
Here is what i dislike about the touch diamond:
-Needed a reboot every day.
-Slow.
-Ram becomes filled with nothing quickly.
-sms messages dont arrive sometimes.
-did i mention it was freaking slow?
This is why i chose a touch diamond:
-Touchflow 3d is superb.
Well the iPhone 3gs is certainly better then a touch diamond, but today i saw the HD2 in the store and now im really confused what phone i want.
I have a iphone 3gs and love the huge collection of apps and games.
Like music reconition, watching the newspapers quickly, all the jailbreak emulators, tv guide, jibbigo speech translator, and some other apps.
Again a list of things i like and dislike.
iPhone 3gs things i like:
-Easy.
-Smooth.
-Simple.(has disadvantage)
-Fast, blazing fast!
-The App Store.
iPhone 3gs things i dislike in comparision to the experience i had with HD2 today, and pro's of the HD2:
-Simple. I have to launch a app to get information on my 3gs. With the HD2 you have about 10 things at desame time.
-The screen of HD2.....the size of the screen, the colors and the resolution.
It really made me in love.
-5MP camera with a flash has the HD2, but i know the camera of the iphone is good even with 3,2MP.
-The HD2 has skyfire, and i can watch youtube videos with the builded in browser or not?
-The HD has such a beautiful weather function.
Con's why i still choose for iPhone 3Gs:
-The HD2 aint got the app store. Windows marketplace is a joke so far.
-I dont got beautiful experience with windows mobile.(reboots, ram getting full, not fast but rather slow performance.
-iPhone 3gs got nice and clean sms chat system.
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
-Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
-Do i have to reboot alot?
-Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
-Are there cool 3d games available?
-Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
-Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most?
(music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
Any replys will be welcomed alot
Thanks, Borg Queen X.
borgqueenx said:
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
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Skyfire lets you watch flash in browser
I think there's a fix for Opera to allow flash as well
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
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Yes, it's very fast, and only going to get faster with the 1.6x/2.x roms (not to mention the cooked roms in development)
Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
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Better than the iPhone 3gs even with stock rom, but only slightly. Users of the 1.6x roms report better battery life than stock rom, so yes.
Do i have to reboot alot?
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I don't have to reboot often, as far as I'm concerned it's an always-on device. Only times I have to reboot is when installing some apps
Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
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I don't have the sms issue, only because I don't text much! But it can be resolved by disabling HTC messaging and using pocket outlook. I'm sure there will be a fix for the HTC messaging soon.
Are there cool 3d games available?
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There are some very nice games like Texas HoldEm Poker, Asphalt 4, Guitar Hero 5, Sonic, Prison Tycoon, Pool Rebel, Flight Commander, Hawx, The Game of Life, Real Soccer 2010, Electopia, Need For Speed - these all have good graphics and very good gameplay on the HD2
Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
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Not sure about this, maybe someone else can say for sure
Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most? (music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
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There's music recognition by Shazam, nice MSN messengers, not sure about the others but again someone should be able to say.
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
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My friend just bought an iPhone and I've compared the two, we both like the HD2 more than the iPhone, he can't get it on his network so he's not very happy
The future looks bright for the HD2 with WM7 coming out soon and lots of chefs on this forum looking to cook up some sick roms, so my unbiased opinion is go for the HD2 if you don't mind tweaking it to get the best experience. If you want a device that achieves its full potential straight out of the box then go for the iPhone.
Hello,
A long list of questions which I will answer as follows:
If you like the HD2 because you have had time to play with it AND it will satisfy your needs rather than you wanting "the best phone" because you get bragging rights with your mates then go for it provided:
- you are happy spending time tweaking it
- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
If you like things nice and easy,
- don't have the time to tweak your device
- consider your investment in iphone too good/too much to throw away
- want a device that does what it says on the tin time after time
then stick with the iphone.
Its as simple as that.
WB
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
EDIT:
- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
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Happy to search, but i do want to find the solution. I dont like sms messages im sending that wont arrive for instance.
Flashing roms? Cool! I always want to make my phone better! But i hate useless bricks...I dont wanna **** up my phone.
borgqueenx said:
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
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WM7 upgrade was confirmed by official HTC rep on twitter but removed soon after, make of that what you will.
The grid isnt a problem for me, I can barely see it, it doesnt show at all when the screen is on. Build quality of the phone is top notch, can't recommend it highly enough.
Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB
wacky.banana said:
Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB
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whoa so many tweaks....awesome!
I wont whine about a bad buy if it works fine. But i dont want a similar experience to the touch diamond i had some time ago. I can smack it on the concrete instantly.
I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one
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I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one
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yeah i know it from the touch diamond. it is something im gonna miss, but not that much.
But the screen, skyfire, tweaking and touchflo are the main things that drag me to the side of windows mobile once again.
What im scared of is that damn HTC and Microsoft wont give our HD2's windows mobile 7. But if that is released end 2010, i will have a other phone anyways. But a date is not really known right?
Ive seen some 3d games running on the HD2, but i dont think there will come more that fast....
Im also wondering what browser will be faster with tweaks applied(from sticky topic here)
NOOB-----Time Thats the real problem...lol
Sounds like to me you are a NOOB at Windows mobile I own over 6 HTC phones my main phone is the Touch pro2 Nrg 6.5.3 Leo landscape rom and when I had my Fuze it was Fast as ever with full flash web browsing unlike iphone safari see thing is most people have no ideal how are what to do to a windows phone so they just end up saying it cant do things my windows phones had been made into mini laptops as you can see below in some of my screen shots you might wanna ask your self are you ready for a windows phone not is a windows phone ready for you....?
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Personally I'm going to try android, probably the xperia x10.
One thing about the HD2 though, is xda devs.
I can only imagine what some of the cooks are going to achieve with such an awesome piece of hardware...............
Still a hard decision to make...advantage is i wont lose money selling my second hand 3gs and buying a new leo.
i think the biggest let down of iphone is the screen resolution.. seriously.. how that happen? I would seriously consider iphone if it weren't for the poor resolution. 320x480.. yeah right..
camera and all is really great with hd2.. with the pink blob fix and the extra fine quality patch, takes superb pictures. couldn't be happier.
FPSece!! PSX emul.. friggin awesome, tho there's a on screen button lag issue which should be sorted quick as the "paid" version has this sorted.
movies... supports most avi and stuff without encoding. tho I had issues playing mp4 I downloaded from youtube.. strange enough that didn't play smooth on TCPMP, and coreplayer didn't even want to try. But most of dvd rips (700mb) movies play great on hd2.
web browsing is much nicer with bigger screen especially on landscape, you don't need to zoom in to read.
HD2 has the BEST GPS. you don't even need a clear line of sight, works in doors and plenty of SAT nav to choose from.
Most of the apps that are popular and common on iphone would be available here on xda. it would do the similar task. so give xda a good search.
I had to reset my phone a lot, take the battery out and all.. but that's because I was on 1.43 stock and I had so much crap installed and removed.. played with too many things and it was like half broken.
recently flashed to Miri's ROM. it's so much smoother and I did have to reset ONCE so far.. it just got stuck on main home screen. But so far so good. might give it another flash to something new soon.
if you've played with HD2, you will notice you don't really deal with winmo 6.5 much.. it's mostly manilla. well at least with the most common tasks. regarding battery, I find it pretty crap to be honest. I wish it was double of what it is now.. it's always on back of my mind, I just use it without thinking too much about it but then the drain on the battery is pretty quick with web browsing and phone calls.. watching movies.. and i haven't even tried playing FF9 yet, wonder how many hours I will get with a full charge. But I think most phones do about similar hours.. well at least you can buy a spare and chuck it on if it runs out.
Alright. Will search for replacement apps.
If i can find them, im on.
Hope i can ask you guys if i cant find some.
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
borgqueenx said:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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AFAIK Augmented reality is coming soon according to WMPowerUser. Google maps will search numbers, addresses etc. In fact most GPS software does this now too (Igo, CoPilot). Igo now supports with the help of some amazing guy on here compass direction combined with GPS support. It also works in Google maps. Not sure about password on notes, but you can encrypt the contents of your SD card anyway (basic wm function). Then, you could just password your device anyway. There are advanced photo editing apps, but when you say advanced, you can't mean full Photoshop type functionality with layer masking and blending etc? Use a PC?! There are apps, as with the iphone but I couldn't be bothered to do it on my phone!! Yes there is music creation/beat maker stuff out there.
No seisometer, quite a few beer ones now, yes to gun, yes to voice morphing and yes to dice. A lot of this stuff I've seen on Modaco but a bit of searching always finds what you need.
WM users have an app store that's better than market place. It's called the internet. Okay so you can't download them directly through your phone as easily, but my goodness there are millions of apps and they don't need to be signed off by Apple. It's a free market....woohoo!!
Oh and just to reiterate a point, fpsece 0.10 PSX emulator is amazing! I'm playing FFVII on it and it's just breathtaking!
borgqueenx said:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
TrYde said:
- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
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thanks!
I have tried to look for some quality games, that support the 3d chip....
But the only games i found where:
-Electopia. (only a demo???)
-Experiment13.
-Xtrakt.
Are there more quality games like these? any thread to get me going?
I found alot of threads but they also had games like assasins creed...and when googling for screenshots it looks real crappy.
NFS Undercover
Racing Academy
Spiderman
Prince of Persia
...
Or just install FPSECE and play those thousands of PSX games, they are better than anything you find in the Marketplace or AppStore or elsewhere...

My list of (useful) Apps and Games.

Hello Everyone. Now i have tried lot of apps and games on my mega. i remember when i was a new user, for some months i just couldn't find a proper game to play on it. and i am sure most of you new users are going through same problem. i will provide the names now and its upto you to decide. Enjoy.
Now i wont be giving links or how to get them. use your mind and Google. otherwise PM me.
1: Total Commander: Best file explorer imo.
2: Microsoft My Phone: Most of you don't know what it its, either hate it or don't have it. it comes in stock rom and imo is an extremely useful app. backup just got EASY.
3: Point Chase: Extremely addicting game. Get the free one (or paid) either way you will be taking yourself to limits. Nice time pass.
4: Minesweeper: By Huaxing YUAN (version:1.0.2009.110) this is the best. i found this minesweeper to be better than all others.
5: Asphlat4 3D: Racing You said? well that's what i wanted. my dream coming true on this phone. The best racing app series there can be for mobiles. Trust me! you would be enjoying this one. Just admire the control work from the developers! and you can even flip the screen anyway you want. Multiplayer? oh yes! This one has it all.
6:CorePlayer: All you need to playback various formats on your Mega.
7: MiTo Team Paint: Really fun and useful app. No need of notepad now, Painting got much easier and fun.
8: Opera10: I dare say! Best app for browsing Internet. Extremely fast, reliable, efficient and smooth. (but it wont uninstall built in Opera9, it will stay)
Maybe you would like to also share with us where to find each program?
in a bulgarian forum i got a ~350 games in a list , all of them full touch capable and working with Jblend NFS Shift and Worms 2010 also rulez
LtBlue said:
in a bulgarian forum i got a ~350 games in a list , all of them full touch capable and working with Jblend NFS Shift and Worms 2010 also rulez
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i have tested more than 100 games, not 350 though. i test from start to finish (some don't even install) only then the game passes my inspection . Asphalt is one of them. pop hd 3d, gameloft made a mess with it. bugy and control suks. otherwise it was turning out to be good.
u start the games throug Jblend right ?
Gothik said:
Hello Everyone. Now i have tried lot of apps and games on my mega. i remember when i was a new user, for some months i just couldn't find a proper game to play on it. and i am sure most of you new users are going through same problem. i will provide the names now and its upto you to decide. Enjoy.
Now i wont be giving links or how to get them. use your mind and Google. otherwise PM me.
1: Total Commander: Best file explorer imo.
2: Microsoft My Phone: Most of you don't know what it its, either hate it or don't have it. it comes in stock rom and imo is an extremely useful app. backup just got EASY.
3: Point Chase: Extremely addicting game. Get the free one (or paid) either way you will be taking yourself to limits. Nice time pass.
4: Minesweeper: By Huaxing YUAN (version:1.0.2009.110) this is the best. i found this minesweeper to be better than all others.
5: Asphlat4 3D: Racing You said? well that's what i wanted. my dream coming true on this phone. The best racing app series there can be for mobiles. Trust me! you would be enjoying this one. Just admire the control work from the developers! and you can even flip the screen anyway you want. Multiplayer? oh yes! This one has it all.
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Pointless, with out say where to get them!
funman said:
Pointless, with out say where to get them!
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well your post here is pointless too...
To LtBlue: No dude, I am sure you know Jblend is only to start Java based apps and games. at the moment the apps and games i mentioned above aren't java based.
Re: Backup
IMHO, PPC PIMBackup is the best backup application EVER, for your PIM information and custom files. Just google for it, or you can get it in this forum as well - just hit the search button ... or if you are lazy like me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705.
Another great application is Advanced Config, which lets you boost the performance of your PPC (not for unassuming ppc users though). Again available in this site only or .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151.
M2DC a great app which allows you to modify your M2D (like removing a tab you never use?) to a great extent (do I need to say AGAIN that you will find it in this site ? ) well.... for lazy bums like me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
well your post here is pointless too...
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Well, that's debatable .... if you are posting a freeware, you can always post a link. If you are posting a paid software, you can ... again post a link for n00bs like me .
Re: Backup
IMHO, PPC PIMBackup is the best backup application EVER, for your PIM information and custom files. Just google for it, or you can get it in this forum as well - just hit the search button . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
Another great application is Advanced Config, which lets you boost the performance of your PPC (not for unassuming ppc users though). Again available in this site only . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
M2DC a great app which allows you to modify your M2D to a great extent (do I need to say AGAIN that you will find it in this site ? ) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
As you guys can see, we can always post a link, as long as it legal! It helps new users very much
Another very useful but paid app is sktools, which I really LOVE, available at http://s-k-tools.com you may try the lite version (which is free).
seriously, if you weren't one respected member i would have insulted you for posting these apps on my thread...
Gothik said:
seriously, if you weren't one respected member i would have insulted you for posting these apps on my thread...
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First of all.. What do you mean by respected member?
Second none of the threads is OWNED by any one. This is a open forum and as long as you are NOT publicizing your own app in a competitor's thread, its very normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
Addicted2xda said:
First of all.. What do you mean by respected member?
Second none of the threads is OWNED by any one. This is a open forum and as long as you are NOT publicizing your own app in a competitor's thread, its very normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
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I second to that mate...
as a newbie scanning the threads, it will be very helpful if you can find help from other contributors while reading one thread, makes life more easy...
Relax guys and back to topic.
ArkSwitch - best of the best task manager with process-kill function. Can be found there: http://arkswitch.codeplex.com/
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SpriteBackup - the same functionality and accurate like PIM Backup, but can backup and restore WHOLE memory and if you update ROM and restore backup created with this app, you get the same system like before ROM update. Created backup file is self-extractable like in PIM Backup case.
App is 30 day trial: http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup/pocket-pc-edition
Resco Explorer - great functionality and look - best file manager for WM - http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/
Opera Mobile 10 - with features like Opera Turbo (decrase data transfer) and Opera Link (full cloud bookmarks backup) is the best WM browser. Only one thing sux: dont support zooming with zoom bar. Download: http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
Palringo - free multi IM messegner with great look and functionality: http://www.palringo.com/
SPB TV - best app for wathing international TV stations. Awesome interface, speed and watching comfort: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/tv/
i think this enough for now. If someone is curious i can post more apps and games i use.
regarding 350 games link
LtBlue said:
in a bulgarian forum i got a ~350 games in a list , all of them full touch capable and working with Jblend NFS Shift and Worms 2010 also rulez
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hiiii
hey can u plz send me the link
livin4u said:
hiiii
hey can u plz send me the link
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I would like that link too please....
the link is in a bulgarian forum , which u wont understand ;]] i will upload 10-15 games , working with JBlend , but that's tomorrow ;]]
oh come on! lol that's just like you going to someones else showroom and promoting your product. i am sure you'll end up with broken jaw.
Still if you guys like it, then keep it up
LtBlue said:
the link is in a bulgarian forum , which u wont understand ;]] i will upload 10-15 games , working with JBlend , but that's tomorrow ;]]
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Hey LtBlue.. still waiting for your uploads man.. Pls upload..
Thanks in Advance
Oh , ye i did promised and cant just walk away like that .... so ... here it is
First , take this program and install it on the SD card ;]]
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdmitgnbkjo
_>_>_>_>_>_>____>>_>>_>>_>_>
Now Download this .rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VNWP3NCN
Then unrar this arhive on ur PC , and cut and paste the files on ur mobile
Start the program , and i think from here now it wont be a problem for anyone
Have Fun ! 10 Fully Touchable games for when u got some free time , most of them i play Worms 2010 want's some attention to learn how-to but then it's super easy and super nice !
LtBlue said:
Oh , ye i did promised and cant just walk away like that .... so ... here it is
First , take this program and install it on the SD card ;]]
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdmitgnbkjo
_>_>_>_>_>_>____>>_>>_>>_>_>
Now Download this .rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VNWP3NCN
Then unrar this arhive on ur PC , and cut and paste the files on ur mobile
Start the program , and i think from here now it wont be a problem for anyone
Have Fun ! 10 Fully Touchable games for when u got some free time , most of them i play Worms 2010 want's some attention to learn how-to but then it's super easy and super nice !
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Thank you for your posts!! But can't we just use JBlend (already in the phone) instead of Esmertec Jbed?

Music Player Idea

Hey, i post it on deviantART a mockup of a music player for android that i made some time ago. Some people give me suggestion of posting it here, maybe anyone wants to make something with this.
P.S.I'm not being able to post image here, check it at m DeviantART page
thiago-silva.deviantart.com
I can make PSD available (it's free, no worry ;-)) if anyone wants.
Share your thoughs, if anything is missing, if something should be changed...
Any other stuff, just contact me.
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I think it's very nice, and worth a go. Any dev?
common XDA!
I would be VERY interested in seeing this developed... If only I could code Java.
If we make it an open source thing I'd be happy to contribute some code from BlueMuze
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alostpacket.bluemuze
I don't know anything about running an open source project though so. But I have some mediaplayer and album art utils I could probably contribute.
Design is uber too btw
I am interested in helping to implement it under MVVM with Android Binding
andytsui said:
I am interested in helping to implement it under MVVM with Android Binding
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No offense meant by this at all, but can you explain why this would be helpful?
From what I gather MVVM is a new design pattern created to solve coding problems with Windows Presentation Foundation. This is hardly a time tested classic like MVC. It seems like shoehorning an MS technique into java (square peg, round hole). It also doesn't look complete... v0.2?
It seems to me, that if we're going to make this an open source project, we should pick design patterns that people know, and that fit the job. I'm not convinced a framework is needed at all too, especially with a media player on a limited power/resources device. Inverting control to a framework can (potentially) be limiting in where you can make optimizations and adds another layer to the stack.
Your framework looks like a very nice start though, and it looks like it will be very helpful for WPF/Silverlight coders making the move to Android some day. But from what I can understand of it at a glance, I'd wouldn't recommend it for this project unless all the coders were former WPF devs and you were further along in finishing it.
Android also already has a fair amount of code built into the API for binding adapters to views too. And where we bind will be cruicial for perfomance. Remember, music collections are often 1000 songs or more, and the data is in multiple tables. Cursor adapters also don't always work well because you dont want to be doing a DB lookup at every turn, while also decoding album art (skia with throw a bunch of OOM errors). We need to be very careful to reuse views and not maintain references to dead objects. (Something a framework can sometimes do unbeknownst to the programmer).
Unless... I don't know....maybe I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying. If I am I appologize.
Anyways I'm still happy to donate my database utils and album art utils, (neither of which are perfect either) but what this project really needs is a lead willing to begin setting up the repo, and willing to devote time to integrating patches / setting standards.
My friend and I have done some dev work on games and minecraft things before for fun, maybe this could be something real we could have a go at.
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alostpacket said:
No offense meant by this at all, but can you explain why this would be helpful?
From what I gather MVVM is a new design pattern created to solve coding problems with Windows Presentation Foundation. This is hardly a time tested classic like MVC. It seems like shoehorning an MS technique into java (square peg, round hole). It also doesn't look complete... v0.2?
It seems to me, that if we're going to make this an open source project, we should pick design patterns that people know, and that fit the job. I'm not convinced a framework is needed at all too, especially with a media player on a limited power/resources device. Inverting control to a framework can (potentially) be limiting in where you can make optimizations and adds another layer to the stack.
Your framework looks like a very nice start though, and it looks like it will be very helpful for WPF/Silverlight coders making the move to Android some day. But from what I can understand of it at a glance, I'd wouldn't recommend it for this project unless all the coders were former WPF devs and you were further along in finishing it.
Android also already has a fair amount of code built into the API for binding adapters to views too. And where we bind will be cruicial for perfomance. Remember, music collections are often 1000 songs or more, and the data is in multiple tables. Cursor adapters also don't always work well because you dont want to be doing a DB lookup at every turn, while also decoding album art (skia with throw a bunch of OOM errors). We need to be very careful to reuse views and not maintain references to dead objects. (Something a framework can sometimes do unbeknownst to the programmer).
Unless... I don't know....maybe I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying. If I am I appologize.
Anyways I'm still happy to donate my database utils and album art utils, (neither of which are perfect either) but what this project really needs is a lead willing to begin setting up the repo, and willing to devote time to integrating patches / setting standards.
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Man, I agree most of what you say.
Talking about the pattern itself is not the scope of this thread, so I should keep it short. MVVM is a derivative from MVC, while MVC is, as you suggested, a long-tested pattern, it doesn't really fits well in windows-based UI and that's why MVVM is suggested. No matter MVVM, MVC, MVP are all about clean separation of responsibility, to me, Android Activities are too overloaded. I like programming Android stuff, but at the very first I started it feels so 1990s in terms of UI. That's the reason I started the framework. (well, XML layout is at least better than SWING)
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Back to the project, I agree a project lead is needed, I think I have quite some spare time to take this post, only my time zone (GST+8) might not easy for interactive discussion.
I wouldn't worry to much about the timezone thing. This seems like the kind of project that could take a considerable amount of time to finish. So might as well take it slow and we can use message boards & emails to communicate.
Hopefully a few more devs will pitch in too.
alostpacket said:
I wouldn't worry to much about the timezone thing. This seems like the kind of project that could take a considerable amount of time to finish. So might as well take it slow and we can use message boards & emails to communicate.
Hopefully a few more devs will pitch in too.
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Fine. So far we have:
Initial design (thiago-silva)
DB and Album Art caching (alotspacket)
UI (by me)
For me the major part that don't know how to do is the equalizer since it involves lots of signal processing and (maybe) ndk work, moreover, the UI designer didn't yet jump in to say anything?
Yeah EQ is the hardest part, it would have to be done in the NDK if we're planning on supporting anything older than Gingerbread. In Gingerbread I think we could use some of the newer audio features but I'm not 100% sure.
Agreed also that I would love to hear from the original poster, forgot to check how old this thread is, since it was bumped recently... Looks like it was a bit over 3 weeks ago.
I sent him an email (through the forum) so hopefully he will drop by
Hey, it's me here
Love the idea for a open-source project, if you guys need some help i'll be glad to provide it.
alostpacket said:
Yeah EQ is the hardest part, it would have to be done in the NDK if we're planning on supporting anything older than Gingerbread. In Gingerbread I think we could use some of the newer audio features but I'm not 100% sure.
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I didn't take much time to look at Gingerbread or Honeycomb SDK yet, but no matter what, I think supports to 2.1+ will be the best (2.3+ is too niche at the moment) so we need some NDK eq coder... or just leave that in future update.
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Hey, it's me here
Love the idea for a open-source project, if you guys need some help i'll be glad to provide it.
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If we got enough man-power, a more detailed story board might be needed.
Try contacting @eliotstocker for help. He made Music Mod. It was a great music player, but for some reason he stopped working on it.
I would love to offer some coding assistance!
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We should pick a license too. I would vote for Apache just because that would allow us to use code from the AOSP if need be (also very business friendly so any of us could take the project off in other directions if we desired)
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I would love to offer some coding assistance!
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Which part you are most interested?
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Either MIT or Apache will be fine for me, what about other devs?
Moreover, you guys prefer svn or git?
I'm an SVN fan myself but have been meaning to learn git for years now -- I just never git around to it.

Windows 8 on A500 Possible

if we put linux on the a500 and download virtual box then we can run windows 8 in virtualbox right
I think virtualbox uses x86 hardware, especially if you have the additional virtualization features to make virtualizing x86 possible. I don't think it runs or would even compile on non-x86 hardware.
I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it. I know it doesn't need the x86 extensions, but I think it still uses the similarity to make what it does in cases it doesn't much easier.
It's not an emulator as I understand it.
Dkj7777 said:
if we put linux on the a500 and download virtual box then we can run windows 8 in virtualbox right
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You really do not understand what you're talking about, and even a simple Google search would've told you the answer.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtualbox
It clearly says there: "x86", whereas A500 is powered by ARM CPU. Virtualbox doesn't run on ARM, nor does Virtualbox support ARM guest OSes. Even if you magically managed to make Virtualbox run on ARM host OS it would run EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
Short answer: NO.
WereCatf said:
You really do not understand what you're talking about, and even a simple Google search would've told you the answer.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtualbox
It clearly says there: "x86", whereas A500 is powered by ARM CPU. Virtualbox doesn't run on ARM, nor does Virtualbox support ARM guest OSes. Even if you magically managed to make Virtualbox run on ARM host OS it would run EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
Short answer: NO.
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I tried to be gentler than you were lol
muqali said:
I tried to be gentler than you were lol
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Well, I might have been a little too blunt. I just wanted him to understand that what he planned will never fly.
The ARM - version on W8 could potentially be made to run on the A500 if the devs can figure a way of booting it up, but even then the ARM - version will not be able to run x86 software, so it's still likely not what the OP was hoping for.
Now where was I... Oh, right, looking for more virtual teeth to punch in!!
WereCatf said:
Well, I might have been a little too blunt. I just wanted him to understand that what he planned will never fly.
The ARM - version on W8 could potentially be made to run on the A500 if the devs can figure a way of booting it up, but even then the ARM - version will not be able to run x86 software, so it's still likely not what the OP was hoping for.
Now where was I... Oh, right, looking for more virtual teeth to punch in!!
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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hatefuel19 said:
im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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Microsoft have already stated QUITE CLEARLY that Arm Win 8 will absolutely NOT run native x86 apps. It WILL, however, be able to run .NET apps, though they will probably have to be compiled under the .NET 4.5 framework first.
And I don't believe in softly softly either. Getting to the truth right away saves time and, quite frankly, if people's skin is so thin that they take offence at a terse reply, then they have no business being on the internet!
hatefuel19 said:
im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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You are, confirmed here:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/09/16/1324243/microsoft-no-windows-8-arm-support-for-x86-apps
FloatingFatMan said:
Microsoft have already stated QUITE CLEARLY that Arm Win 8 will absolutely NOT run native x86 apps. It WILL, however, be able to run .NET apps, though they will probably have to be compiled under the .NET 4.5 framework first.
And I don't believe in softly softly either. Getting to the truth right away saves time and, quite frankly, if people's skin is so thin that they take offence at a terse reply, then they have no business being on the internet!
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Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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erica_renee said:
Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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You have three shoulders!?!?!?
Another one of these.......
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erica_renee said:
Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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Don't worry about comments by miserable ppl ER, that's what the "block user" function is for in your user CP. Then you only have to see their posts if someone else quotes them. He's been on my list pretty much since day one.
hatefuel19 said:
im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software.
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I don't understand how can you come to the conclusion that Win8 could somehow run applications compiled for a completely different architechture based on just the fact that they're not installed the same way they're installed now.
You people really need to get a grip on reality.
kjy2010 said:
Don't worry about comments by miserable ppl ER, that's what the "block user" function is for in your user CP. Then you only have to see their posts if someone else quotes them. He's been on my list pretty much since day one.
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Typing with one hand
No biggie.but thanks.Surgery a 3rd ttime on my left shoulder. I so much wanna go back to work.if you have nothing nice to. Say say nothing.
As far as win 8 arm from a Microsoft conference I seen showing off windows 8.There will be app type.touch programs.or youncan intact run full blown cross platform programs.this came from. Ms.but was several months back.I seen a mess coming.Burnside not under estimate the abilities of ms. They get alot of crap yet we all have there software in one form or another.
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or youncan intact run full blown cross platform programs.
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Those cross-platform applications will need to be written in either pure .NET 4.5, or in HTML5/JS, ie. non-native code. And well, obviously, HTML5/JS applications will run on any platform, not just Win8.
hatefuel19 said:
im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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I'm also running windows 8 on my older computer.
It seems to be designed for tablets and pcs.
Your start screen is actually where the apps are.
If you use one of these and switch to another one you don't close the first one.
If you return to it it is open right where you left it just like a tablet.
With Regular programs like word you can close them.
It will take some getting used to.
Alternatively, do what I did.
Sell your A500 and buy a W500 on the cheap on ebay. I actually made a small profit!
Run Win8 on it.. works flawlessly and so much faster than Android in.. well, pretty much anything.
I'm typing this on a 22" widescreen at 1920x1080 in an RDP session.. something I couldn't do on Android.
Biggest problem with W500 is that it looks like it was designed by.. no wait... they didn't bother hiring any designers... some guy got some plastic casing and slapped a Windows 7 sticker on it.
Oh, and I haven't figured out how the alarm works... tablet goes to sleep and I have to wake it up and then the alarm goes off!! I'm sure it's meant to work the other way round.....
Well, have you tried that? (running Windows 8 on Acer A500 Tablet)
Give us feedback and results.
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Well, have you tried that? (running Windows 8 on Acer A500 Tablet)
Give us feedback and results.
My A500 Rocks!
Thor Transformer Revolver 3.5 Port v4.1
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Does nobody "really" get it?!?
The ARM version has not been released, and you cannot run the x86/x64 version on the A500!
kjy2010 said:
Does nobody "really" get it?!?
The ARM version has not been released, and you cannot run the x86/x64 version on the A500!
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I know that! (just kidding)
But if the OP is still persistent of doing that, he should done it.

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