iPhone 3Gs user, played with HD2 today...help! - HD2 General

I am a true iphone user for a year now, but thats only because i always want to have the greatest phone. I had a touch diamond before from htc, and it sucked.
Here is what i dislike about the touch diamond:
-Needed a reboot every day.
-Slow.
-Ram becomes filled with nothing quickly.
-sms messages dont arrive sometimes.
-did i mention it was freaking slow?
This is why i chose a touch diamond:
-Touchflow 3d is superb.
Well the iPhone 3gs is certainly better then a touch diamond, but today i saw the HD2 in the store and now im really confused what phone i want.
I have a iphone 3gs and love the huge collection of apps and games.
Like music reconition, watching the newspapers quickly, all the jailbreak emulators, tv guide, jibbigo speech translator, and some other apps.
Again a list of things i like and dislike.
iPhone 3gs things i like:
-Easy.
-Smooth.
-Simple.(has disadvantage)
-Fast, blazing fast!
-The App Store.
iPhone 3gs things i dislike in comparision to the experience i had with HD2 today, and pro's of the HD2:
-Simple. I have to launch a app to get information on my 3gs. With the HD2 you have about 10 things at desame time.
-The screen of HD2.....the size of the screen, the colors and the resolution.
It really made me in love.
-5MP camera with a flash has the HD2, but i know the camera of the iphone is good even with 3,2MP.
-The HD2 has skyfire, and i can watch youtube videos with the builded in browser or not?
-The HD has such a beautiful weather function.
Con's why i still choose for iPhone 3Gs:
-The HD2 aint got the app store. Windows marketplace is a joke so far.
-I dont got beautiful experience with windows mobile.(reboots, ram getting full, not fast but rather slow performance.
-iPhone 3gs got nice and clean sms chat system.
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
-Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
-Do i have to reboot alot?
-Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
-Are there cool 3d games available?
-Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
-Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most?
(music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
Any replys will be welcomed alot
Thanks, Borg Queen X.

borgqueenx said:
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
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Skyfire lets you watch flash in browser
I think there's a fix for Opera to allow flash as well
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
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Yes, it's very fast, and only going to get faster with the 1.6x/2.x roms (not to mention the cooked roms in development)
Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
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Better than the iPhone 3gs even with stock rom, but only slightly. Users of the 1.6x roms report better battery life than stock rom, so yes.
Do i have to reboot alot?
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I don't have to reboot often, as far as I'm concerned it's an always-on device. Only times I have to reboot is when installing some apps
Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
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I don't have the sms issue, only because I don't text much! But it can be resolved by disabling HTC messaging and using pocket outlook. I'm sure there will be a fix for the HTC messaging soon.
Are there cool 3d games available?
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There are some very nice games like Texas HoldEm Poker, Asphalt 4, Guitar Hero 5, Sonic, Prison Tycoon, Pool Rebel, Flight Commander, Hawx, The Game of Life, Real Soccer 2010, Electopia, Need For Speed - these all have good graphics and very good gameplay on the HD2
Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
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Not sure about this, maybe someone else can say for sure
Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most? (music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
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There's music recognition by Shazam, nice MSN messengers, not sure about the others but again someone should be able to say.
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
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My friend just bought an iPhone and I've compared the two, we both like the HD2 more than the iPhone, he can't get it on his network so he's not very happy
The future looks bright for the HD2 with WM7 coming out soon and lots of chefs on this forum looking to cook up some sick roms, so my unbiased opinion is go for the HD2 if you don't mind tweaking it to get the best experience. If you want a device that achieves its full potential straight out of the box then go for the iPhone.

Hello,
A long list of questions which I will answer as follows:
If you like the HD2 because you have had time to play with it AND it will satisfy your needs rather than you wanting "the best phone" because you get bragging rights with your mates then go for it provided:
- you are happy spending time tweaking it
- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
If you like things nice and easy,
- don't have the time to tweak your device
- consider your investment in iphone too good/too much to throw away
- want a device that does what it says on the tin time after time
then stick with the iphone.
Its as simple as that.
WB

thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
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- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
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Happy to search, but i do want to find the solution. I dont like sms messages im sending that wont arrive for instance.
Flashing roms? Cool! I always want to make my phone better! But i hate useless bricks...I dont wanna **** up my phone.

borgqueenx said:
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
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WM7 upgrade was confirmed by official HTC rep on twitter but removed soon after, make of that what you will.
The grid isnt a problem for me, I can barely see it, it doesnt show at all when the screen is on. Build quality of the phone is top notch, can't recommend it highly enough.

Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB

wacky.banana said:
Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB
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whoa so many tweaks....awesome!
I wont whine about a bad buy if it works fine. But i dont want a similar experience to the touch diamond i had some time ago. I can smack it on the concrete instantly.

I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one

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I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one
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yeah i know it from the touch diamond. it is something im gonna miss, but not that much.
But the screen, skyfire, tweaking and touchflo are the main things that drag me to the side of windows mobile once again.
What im scared of is that damn HTC and Microsoft wont give our HD2's windows mobile 7. But if that is released end 2010, i will have a other phone anyways. But a date is not really known right?
Ive seen some 3d games running on the HD2, but i dont think there will come more that fast....

Im also wondering what browser will be faster with tweaks applied(from sticky topic here)

NOOB-----Time Thats the real problem...lol
Sounds like to me you are a NOOB at Windows mobile I own over 6 HTC phones my main phone is the Touch pro2 Nrg 6.5.3 Leo landscape rom and when I had my Fuze it was Fast as ever with full flash web browsing unlike iphone safari see thing is most people have no ideal how are what to do to a windows phone so they just end up saying it cant do things my windows phones had been made into mini laptops as you can see below in some of my screen shots you might wanna ask your self are you ready for a windows phone not is a windows phone ready for you....?
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Personally I'm going to try android, probably the xperia x10.
One thing about the HD2 though, is xda devs.
I can only imagine what some of the cooks are going to achieve with such an awesome piece of hardware...............

Still a hard decision to make...advantage is i wont lose money selling my second hand 3gs and buying a new leo.

i think the biggest let down of iphone is the screen resolution.. seriously.. how that happen? I would seriously consider iphone if it weren't for the poor resolution. 320x480.. yeah right..
camera and all is really great with hd2.. with the pink blob fix and the extra fine quality patch, takes superb pictures. couldn't be happier.
FPSece!! PSX emul.. friggin awesome, tho there's a on screen button lag issue which should be sorted quick as the "paid" version has this sorted.
movies... supports most avi and stuff without encoding. tho I had issues playing mp4 I downloaded from youtube.. strange enough that didn't play smooth on TCPMP, and coreplayer didn't even want to try. But most of dvd rips (700mb) movies play great on hd2.
web browsing is much nicer with bigger screen especially on landscape, you don't need to zoom in to read.
HD2 has the BEST GPS. you don't even need a clear line of sight, works in doors and plenty of SAT nav to choose from.
Most of the apps that are popular and common on iphone would be available here on xda. it would do the similar task. so give xda a good search.
I had to reset my phone a lot, take the battery out and all.. but that's because I was on 1.43 stock and I had so much crap installed and removed.. played with too many things and it was like half broken.
recently flashed to Miri's ROM. it's so much smoother and I did have to reset ONCE so far.. it just got stuck on main home screen. But so far so good. might give it another flash to something new soon.
if you've played with HD2, you will notice you don't really deal with winmo 6.5 much.. it's mostly manilla. well at least with the most common tasks. regarding battery, I find it pretty crap to be honest. I wish it was double of what it is now.. it's always on back of my mind, I just use it without thinking too much about it but then the drain on the battery is pretty quick with web browsing and phone calls.. watching movies.. and i haven't even tried playing FF9 yet, wonder how many hours I will get with a full charge. But I think most phones do about similar hours.. well at least you can buy a spare and chuck it on if it runs out.

Alright. Will search for replacement apps.
If i can find them, im on.
Hope i can ask you guys if i cant find some.

I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.

borgqueenx said:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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AFAIK Augmented reality is coming soon according to WMPowerUser. Google maps will search numbers, addresses etc. In fact most GPS software does this now too (Igo, CoPilot). Igo now supports with the help of some amazing guy on here compass direction combined with GPS support. It also works in Google maps. Not sure about password on notes, but you can encrypt the contents of your SD card anyway (basic wm function). Then, you could just password your device anyway. There are advanced photo editing apps, but when you say advanced, you can't mean full Photoshop type functionality with layer masking and blending etc? Use a PC?! There are apps, as with the iphone but I couldn't be bothered to do it on my phone!! Yes there is music creation/beat maker stuff out there.
No seisometer, quite a few beer ones now, yes to gun, yes to voice morphing and yes to dice. A lot of this stuff I've seen on Modaco but a bit of searching always finds what you need.
WM users have an app store that's better than market place. It's called the internet. Okay so you can't download them directly through your phone as easily, but my goodness there are millions of apps and they don't need to be signed off by Apple. It's a free market....woohoo!!
Oh and just to reiterate a point, fpsece 0.10 PSX emulator is amazing! I'm playing FFVII on it and it's just breathtaking!

borgqueenx said:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.

TrYde said:
- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
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thanks!
I have tried to look for some quality games, that support the 3d chip....
But the only games i found where:
-Electopia. (only a demo???)
-Experiment13.
-Xtrakt.
Are there more quality games like these? any thread to get me going?
I found alot of threads but they also had games like assasins creed...and when googling for screenshots it looks real crappy.

NFS Undercover
Racing Academy
Spiderman
Prince of Persia
...
Or just install FPSECE and play those thousands of PSX games, they are better than anything you find in the Marketplace or AppStore or elsewhere...

Related

Own a HTC Snap?

Currently on my X1 and i am sick of it. It keeps breaking and want something simpler and with a nicer feel and the snap seems perfect but i have a few questions...
1)Can it play videos on WMP or Coreplayer if so are they smooth or what not?
2)How long does the battery last?
3)What sort of GPS programs are available like TomTom?
4)Is the camera decent and does it take the pictures fast?
5)You know there is a track ball in the middle? around it there is a circle, does that circle act as four seperate buttons (up,down,left,right) because i dont want to use the ball to navigate all the time
Thanks
That's a downgrade of a phone, so why are you switching?
X1: Too many problems, its annoying and has broken too many times - sending off to sony is so long and want a reliable phone that works - plus i want a cheaper option like this one.
Can you answer any of my Q's?
comeradealexi said:
Currently on my X1 and i am sick of it. It keeps breaking and want something simpler and with a nicer feel and the snap seems perfect but i have a few questions...
1)Can it play videos on WMP or Coreplayer if so are they smooth or what not?
2)How long does the battery last?
3)What sort of GPS programs are available like TomTom?
4)Is the camera decent and does it take the pictures fast?
5)You know there is a track ball in the middle? around it there is a circle, does that circle act as four seperate buttons (up,down,left,right) because i dont want to use the ball to navigate all the time
Thanks
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1)coreplayer works great. there is one version that works well. others dont at all. thread about that as well.
2) day and a half or 2 for battery life. decent use. activesync always on and heavy texting.
3)sygic mobile maps works well for me, there is a thread with all of them that work well in this forum
4)camera is decent if light is good. nothing to brag about but it does the job
5) the trackballl is the only way to navigate. if there is another way i would be happy to know. i personally liked the d-pad type control. but you get used to the trackball pretty quickly.
soclean said:
1)coreplayer works great. there is one version that works well. others dont at all. thread about that as well.
2) day and a half or 2 for battery life. decent use. activesync always on and heavy texting.
3)sygic mobile maps works well for me, there is a thread with all of them that work well in this forum
4)camera is decent if light is good. nothing to brag about but it does the job
5) the trackballl is the only way to navigate. if there is another way i would be happy to know. i personally liked the d-pad type control. but you get used to the trackball pretty quickly.
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Awesome! thanks for the info!
I have tomtom installed and it works very well. PM me if you want me to direct you to it.
I´m a proud owner of a Snap shipping next week!!!

Thinking of switching from a G1 to HD2, worth it?

Hey all,
I am thinking of switching from a G1 to the HD2 but still deciding. I like the fact that I can easily load things in to it from my pc (apps, updated ROMS for the OS and all). Does the HD2 have things like that? I liked that my G1 can play nes and snes games and such.
Only thing I do not like on my G1 is the battery life, but then again any phone with a nice big screen is going to have ****ty battery life. Anyone have experience with the battery life?
Just want to see what kind of apps, hacks, and what not there are for it before I get one. I see it has a 1ghz processor, so wondering what it actually is capable of : )
Thanks guys,
Dan
(P.S. I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after I got it, so for the last year I am glad its even working at all lol)
I'm sure all those things are capable on an HD2, i currently don't have any games like that..........yet. But depends on how much the battery means to you, just browse the forums, you'll find lots of posts about "****ty" battery life. For me, my battery is fine. Depends on usage. As for "hacks" farthest I've gone so far is Radio and ROM flashing, which i think I'm becoming addicted to it... any more in depth hacks or warez, have to look somewhere else.
it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
Using task manager goes with out saying, it is a windows phone after all : P
I purchased "advanced task manager" for my G1 and use it all the time, so I am used to that anyways.
Android is neat and all, but I am really liking the youtube review and such I have seen, and what this phone can do. Especially since my G1's camera is so ****ty, and it has no headphone jack, which was a huge mistake on their part. : \
I came from the G1 too. I felt the G1 was a bit slow. Also, my G1 battery life seemed horrible. Probably around 12-14hrs before 10%-0% without too much use. Maybe the battery was old. The HD2 is currently giving me much better battery life and I use it more. I barely used the HD2 today, but it was unplugged at 9am and now it's almost 7pm with 82% battery left.
I miss the notification pulldown and the better app integration with it. With gtalk on WM, you have make about 3 taps after you see the notification to get into gtalk.
I miss the power and news/weather widgets from Android. I don't think there is a gvoice app for WM. I would have liked to be able to use gvoice since I finally got an account a couple of months ago.
I also miss the physical keyboard (a little) and the Android onscreen keyboard implementation a little. The WM onscreen keyboard is a little tricky for me since there are a couple of areas that if tapped on hide the keyboard or change it. I think it should be a long tap (instead of quick tap) to activate those annoying functions.
I never use the app store too much on Android, so I don't miss it.
My reasons for the HD2 was the faster processor and huge screen. Also the ability to play any video format.
xtenpeben said:
it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
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x2. you can pretty much do anything on the hd2 as you can do on the g1 but differently due to the differences in OS. i find it harder to customize the original rom on the phone vs. the stock g1 where more apps and tweaks are readily available whereas on the hd2, you gotta dig deeper (look no further then xda) for certain .cab files that are not in the marketplace or the open market to proceed with certain theme customizations.
yo, peben! this is ryan lol, good to see you posting here too.
It is worth it just for the camera, which is leaps and bounds over the G1, I had a G1.
The screen size makes it better. Bigger is better says my wife.
Beware!
Massive stability issues.
davewaave said:
Massive stability issues.
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I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after getting it a year or so ago. Instability is one thing I am used to. I have to pop my battery out at least twice a day. My camera doesnt turn off when I close it and just sucks battery even more horribly then the phone does normally.
Ear speaker works when it wants to, same with loud speaker.
If it is anything better then that, I will be happy.
** EDIT ** Also, is it possible to transfer contacts and what not from my G1 to this easily? I have a good few.
I came from a G1 as well and it has been well worth it for me. Yes the operating systems are different but I can do just about everything now that I can do on my G1 and its, in my opinion, more customizable. Even though I loved it I don't really miss anything about android, in fact I was getting a little bored with it. Battery life for me is much better, multimedia options are better. The speediness, ram, rom and speediness are also huge pluses. Various people have had various experiences but I never had any freezes or other issues with my using stock or custom roms.
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I do miss those apps!! Coming form Nexus one.
I have navigation in my car, so the only thing I really do with my G1 these days is text, weather, and occasional youtube because it does not do much because of the water damage. I take pics with it sometimes and upload to picasa, but they look ****ty.
ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I've have the g1 and also a hd2. the only thing I really miss is the apps for Android and ease of finding them. I never used the marketplace (it sucks!) except for like a browser or to DL or a Facebook app or something . to bump up to the hd2 is definitely worth it. specially comin from a g1. when I got it I was amazed at how quick and responsive it is. but I missed Android too much and ended up getting the nexus one so now I switch back and forth lol. if u don't think ull miss the OS all that much its deff worth getting. battery life for me I could make it bout a eight hour shift before it'd go into the red but again I was surfing the net on that thing all day at work ...days when I wouldn't power use it the battery wasn't too bad . also with the HTC sense it really covers up the Windows pretty good. and there is a emulator app for it ..nes snes genesis ...with multitouch !
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one more thing. u can sync ur Google contacts with the hd2. life saver :]
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Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
Battman23 said:
Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
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yeah it gets you major *****... haha jk
I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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Well, I installed swype on my G1 just to test it out and I really like it, but now I already have it on my G1 so its not the biggest selling point lol. But so far everything in this thread is telling me its the right phone to switch to
Another G1 to HD2 person. I do miss android and hopefully soon we will have a port for the HD2.
But, the hardware is super. I love this phone. Great camera, great call quality, large beautiful screen, fast, plenty of customizations, many rom's to switch to if you want.
The more I think about this phone I would like to have android, but only as an option for the apps I like. Otherwise, winmo will do.

Possible WM 6.5.x port?

I would love to see WM ported to this device, it would be the next best thing to the HD2 if someone could.
Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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yea i swore by winmo until i got this, because essentially winmo had the same basics. multi-tasking, sandboxed apps, open development. its just that the engine for winmo was 8 years old, and it was not slick anymore.
as far as 720p video goes, who shoots 720p video with their phone and then broadcasts it to the world as HD, seriously who does that. i saw the video quality and its very decent.
video calling- yeah they could have done that.. but no, im not willing to sacrifice open development for video calling. if you absolutely must have it, get the sprint evo. thats like a million times better than i****.
This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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Very true... I switched from the TP2 to the Inc and really expected not to like the Android. Within a half hour, I was hooked and wondered why Windows Mobile is at least 10 years behind in technology.... This is my opinion of course but no matter how good WM7 is, I simply can not imagine going back.
Yep I just left the TP2 and was only worried about the lack of hard keybd but 3 days later, who cares about keyboard....DI works when WM would freeze or crash.
I still have a lot of apps that aren't available for android yet. Would be nice to have the added features like the hardware compass and more ram and the added speed.
I'm not saying that android is a bad platform, which it isn't and I know its advancement is moving along at full steam.
I just have a lot of stuff that I use for WM and isn't available for anything else yet except some of it is available for Crapple's IPhone and would like to keep it for now.
GPS Meter, GCzII, VidaOne Personal Diet and Fitness, Identadrug, Davis Drug Guide, Hamachi2, WMWifiRouter, WifiMonster, GPSWeatherRadar, Bing, and TrackMe.
Would be nice to see an WM Energy ROM for this thing.
Also, is there anything available yet that will auto install software and customize your device with your user information and settings yet for android like XDA_UC does?
like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?
Zabii said:
Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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so was I for about 5-6 years until I got this thing then I was like windows who?
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This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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if they got WP7 ported to it then I would def try it for S&Gs, and because I could, I love not having an icrapple.
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like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?
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I haven't been having any problems with my phone freezing up since I unlocked my phone and got away from that pitiful stock rom and upgraded to a 6.5.3 rom, except when it gets really hot from being on in direct sunlight in my truck or something.
I'm not saying that android is bad, just saying it doesn't do what I want it to do at the moment.
lol. I wiped WinMo from my HTC Vogue in favor of Android cause even 6.5.3 is junk. Can't believe someone wants to regress on purpose. Microsoft's answer to finger friendly was to just make certain buttons bigger and make the X really big and ugly.
No way any dev is wasting their going backwards. This wouldn't be like a dev running Windows 3.1 on a Nokia or Apple device to show of their skills. It'd be like swapping a Mustang's engine with an Escort's.
Sorry if I sound rude...I don't mean to. It just sounds crazy to me.
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I agree with the above post. I owned every WM phone under the sun until the G1 came out. Since then I haven't looked back. I had the G1, mt3g, then switched to verizon for the Eris and now the Incredible. They all outperform any windows device I ever owned. I can't think of one thing on windows that I miss really. Use the incredible for about a week and you'll be hooked. There are plenty of apps in the market I'm sure you can find apps to do what you need.
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I know all of the versions of WM have a list of problems that have plagued users since long before I ever used my first WM device "HTC Apache" and I think its besides the point of this thread.
Why has android been ported to other devices "such as the before mentioned HTC Vogue" and all of the other devices that it has showed up on?
One word....... Choice.
People want the ability to choose what they do with their devices, run what they want to run on it and do what they want with it. If they didn't want that choice then everyone would have a Blackberry.
I'm not saying that WM is any better or worse than Android, Personally I use both "Via XDANDROID" on my Touch Pro 2 and I like android, but I still use WM because I have a lot of apps that I rely on that aren't available on android, so I want to have the choice to run WM or Android on it and I think there may be a few others that haven't switched away from WM completely yet because it has something that they use.
you have not experienced Android to it's potential if you are basing your opinion on running 'XDANDROID's' current work in progress... That was running Android off of an SD card and was STILL faster than WM. However, alot of things didn't work properly so your view is skewed. You mentioned people wanted 'variety' so they through Android on their phones.... Not exactly. Android is simply faster and manages memory better hence why people try to port it to WM to speed up their phones. If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???
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If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???
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I agree....If you search a little bit you'll find apps that will replace the ones you're missing from WM. I thought the same thing when I switched but I've found everything I needed and more.
Identadrug
I purchased this with a yearly subscription and I use it almost daily for work.
http://www.identadrug.com/%28S%28p21lfx45orka2x55gbhbvtad%29%29/pda.aspx?s=ID&cs=
Nothing mentioned about android...
Looked at Davis Drug Guide, and it now has Android.
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
http://www.vidaone.com/ Diet and fitness software that i bought and use daily has no current support for Android.
Hamachi 2 Client I use it daily for accessing our reports system at work and my network at home.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
TrackMe I see a couple of TrackMe apps on Android, but are any of them based off of this one that have a web gui and allow me to use my existing self-hosted server? Using my existing server setup isn't a requirement but it would help, but hosting my own server and having offline storage of data to sync later is a requirement. (more information requested on this one)
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
Bing: Seems that there is a version out there for android now, I use it mostly for business listings and movie times etc...
I rarely use it for navigation.
I have listed above the programs that I currently use the most and either can't or don't want to do without.
When an android version comes out of this software or something else that can replace it with the same features "then I will seriously consider switching.
I just really want a better device to run what I have on "since we are locked in with the limited selection of devices that our carriers offer us", at least until more companies adapt their software for android.
Maverick_TN said:
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
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-GeoBeagle has been out for awhile now and is open source
-Wireless Tether works pretty good but requires root
-Weather Channel or Weatherbug Elite not exactly the same but functions are there
Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
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Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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Imagio vs Rhodium_W......... Any real difference except for one being a slider and the other having a FM radio and a better camera? I was looking for something faster, has more ram, and a hardware compass. Since it doesn't look like VZW will get a CDMA HD2, I figured this had the most potential out of the current selection of offered devices.
I'm very content with what Android is capable of, it is afterall linux. Its the software selection that still needs a little work.
I've looked up Geobeagle. haven't tried it out yet though. Just heard that Tom from GCzII has been showing more interest in Android, perhaps he'll make a version for it.
Can you show me compariable versions of software for the other listed items?
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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I agree with LegionTHEFecalExcretion....
Sounds like you want us to convince you that you made the right decision. I too came from WM and after a couple days of searching around I found all the apps I needed. To say that the software selection needs work is a little crazy if you ask me.

Since Multitasking is the thing android boasts, why does it suck so badly?

Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
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Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
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I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
Hrshycro said:
I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
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If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.
Mecha2142 said:
If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.
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sidenote, i dunno if i'm just retarded or what, but i installed power strip and i am unable to get the shortcut to work. i have it set to a double tap of the home screen. nothing happens when i do this. what am i missing??
I think you're supposed to double click the home button
Hrshycro said:
Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
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What's wrong with Android multitasking?
acrh2 said:
What's wrong with Android multitasking?
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^ this
I don't get it, OP
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^ this
I don't get it, OP
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neither do i. i would like a explanation what the evo is not doing.
you compare the pre to be the king of multitasking? windows mobile (touch pro2 which is with me daily in addition to my evo) multitasks beautifully and so does android in my experience with android (hero from launch day and win mo since 2002). just the other day i was on a call , was updating some apps and using tapatalk on a forum. i even had lookout scanning the apps as they were installing.... (4G area). phone did not hiccup... stock non rooted. thats multitasking to me...
I use MultiTask Manager, and it's totally configurable and display the following:
- Running Apps
- Recently closed apps
- Fav Apps
Also you can hide apps that you don't want to see, max number of apps, background and much more.
I have the icon on my main screen
Is free.
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I don't get it, OP
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It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
k2snowboards88 said:
It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
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If that is the case, then the OP doesn't understand the design philosophy behind Android multitasking.
1) All apps are loaded into memory from the get go.
2) Task managers are unnecessary, just pick whatever app you want to switch to, and start it to switch to it. Hence the last 6 used apps menu when holding down the home key.
In a sense, Android multitasking is intended to be superior to any other implementation - there's no need to be even thinking about it. It just does its thing.
I like multitasking on Android way better than the Pre. First off it works without me having to worry about what's open, second I never get an error telling me to close apps even though no cards are open. Third it just works on Android. palms system is nowhere near stable yet, and backgrounder on iPad has closed apps so often that multitasking was bad.
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I as well fail to see a problem with Android's multitasking abilities.
same....OP please elaborate.
I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
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I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
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I agree with the mp3 thing. It's annoying. I think there must be better mp3 players out there.
Try Quickdesk. You won't be disappointed.
Yeah I've experienced that problem with the mp3 player. I've noticed it varies from App to app. The standard music app will stop sometimes, as does Xiialive - but Last.fm app seems to be extremely stable - never had it stop regardless of what I was doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding the home button - it works nicely but I am more concerned about how programs function while in the background. As I mentioned it seems to vary from program to program, and the are said to be revamping the standard music program, so I guess we can keep our fingers crossed.
I doubt it will be much work to fix but I agree, they need to step it up a notch in this respect.
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I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously.
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But that isn't a good example because that isn't what should happen with the current paradigm. I've left countless programs and come back to exactly the same spot when I return. Something else is going on there. How many programs are you using in between these two? Are you waiting a bunch of time? Maybe Android closes out programs after a certain period of inactivity.
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That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
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This one confuses me. I can play music with something other than the music player and switch apps without the music stopping no problem.
If I were to offer one easy change to the current UI, it would be to put a little circle or star on the icons next to the programs that are still processing in the recent apps list. That's the only issue I can see. I can't tell which ones on that list are closed and which ones are still open.

[Q] What is the biggest advantage of WP7?

Hi,
I'm WinMo 6,5 daily user, I'm thinking about upgrade to WP7, but I'm not sure it would be better for me, because I won't be able to
- scan by photos (due to auto focus problem)
- transfer my data by card adapter
But, why should I turn into WP7? What is the biggest advantage?
Definitely speed. It's probably fastest mobile OS available.
only speed. there is no other advantages about WP7
720p vid recording, internet browser speed, and the overall os is just soooo fast and i know that u didnt ask for the disadvantages, but i just thought i'd let u know that there's no multitasking :/
720p recording..
ok i don't do much camcorder myself...but some may find it big +ve
720p was the only reason I bought HD2 5 months ago. LOL. I knew it had to have happpened someday. Now Im relieved........Lol. Also like the registry hacks for wifi N, better gaming performance, like TWO FINGER TOUCH IN FRUIT NINJA WORKS PERFECTLAAAYYYY(in android HD2 has fake multitouch, it lags basically). But no multitouch in Assassin, or any other GAME> WHYYYYYY.
I know what your saying about multitasking but as long as i can listen to some
music and do other stuff what does it matter.
WP7 has the best farting app, bar none. Yes, you can include the whole iOS App Store and Android Market in this comparison.
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WP7 has the best farting app, bar none. Yes, you can include the whole iOS App Store and Android Market in this comparison.
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Which fart app is this?
Rexfelis said:
Which fart app is this?
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Yeah, any of the ones I found are no where near as good as the ones on the iphone?
you better stay with 6.5 ...
HD2 WP7 over everything else????
The best thing about WP7 is it's on your HD2. What more could you ask for.
If you want you can still keep 6.5 for the more business like stuff (on your SD), but that will all soon be WP7 aswell.
WP7 is better than all other OS for quality of Apps (XBoxLive for instance) theres just not as many.
Plus when you show people how great your phone is and how good it looks compared with their i-Phones you can be all smug on the inside while pretending you're not really that bothered.
Just don't let them take any pictures with it!!!!
Picture quality and aurofocus is not a problem with the alternative camera app found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942605
It's really funny how ppl start bashing before even looking at the solutions already available to them
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Yeah, any of the ones I found are no where near as good as the ones on the iphone?
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Fart Nukes Pro is good.

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