downgrade OnePlus 8T KB2005 from 12 to 11 stable - OnePlus 8T Guides, News, & Discussion

good morning,
I have made several attempts but can't downgrade from UNUSABLE andoid 12 to the latest stable android 11 version.
i used rollback but it doesn't work,
who can help me?

fracost said:
good morning,
I have made several attempts but can't downgrade from UNUSABLE andoid 12 to the latest stable android 11 version.
i used rollback but it doesn't work,
who can help me?
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You can always use the MSM Tool and then upgrade back to the version you want.

BillGoss said:
You can always use the MSM Tool and then upgrade back to the version you want.
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Is this absolutely safe? I was going to wait for the official instructions to rollback, but if I can do it this way, I wont wait.

DPirer said:
Is this absolutely safe? I was going to wait for the official instructions to rollback, but if I can do it this way, I wont wait.
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Of course it is!
And the official instructions for rolling back to OOS 11 are already in the OPO announcement of OOS 12 in https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oxygenos-12-for-the-oneplus-8t.1555060/

BillGoss said:
Of course it is!
And the official instructions for rolling back to OOS 11 are already in the OPO announcement of OOS 12 in https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oxygenos-12-for-the-oneplus-8t.1555060/
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Yes, but not for the EU version.
Welp, if it is safe I'll give it a try.
The EU version is the KB05BA? WWhat do those numbers mean? My phone says KB2005 although it was KB2003 before the ****ty update.

DPirer said:
Yes, but not for the EU version.
Welp, if it is safe I'll give it a try.
The EU version is the KB05BA? WWhat do those numbers mean? My phone says KB2005 although it was KB2003 before the ****ty update.
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To my knowledge, you can flash any of the different variants (KB05AA,-BA,-BD,...) on any phone and they'll work.
So you can use the roll back zip, which takes you back to OOS 11.11, and then install the version you want (KB05BA) of OOS 11.13.
I don't know what they mean, but I assume KB is for kebab, and AA is for the global variant, BA is for the EU variant, and BD is for the Indian variant.
But that naming convention seems to have gone out the window with OOS 12.

BillGoss said:
To my knowledge, you can flash any of the different variants (KB05AA,-BA,-BD,...) on any phone and they'll work.
So you can use the roll back zip, which takes you back to OOS 11.11, and then install the version you want (KB05BA) of OOS 11.13.
I don't know what they mean, but I assume KB is for kebab, and AA is for the global variant, BA is for the EU variant, and BD is for the Indian variant.
But that naming convention seems to have gone out the window with OOS 12.
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It is a pleasure to inform you that I was able to rollback to Android 11. At first I used the EU MSM Tool but I got the DDR error, so I tried the International one and it worked without any issues. I must admit I was pretty nervous tbh. I used to do this a lot on my xiaomi mi max 2, but this phone is quite expensive to end up with a brick xd.

BillGoss said:
then install the version you want (KB05BA)
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Where could I choose the version to update? I've already successfully downgraded to 11.11. Now I would like to update to last 11 stable version. Thank you very much in advance!

Nirnic said:
Where could I choose the version to update? I've already successfully downgraded to 11.11. Now I would like to update to last 11 stable version. Thank you very much in advance!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-8t-rom-ota-oxygen-os-repo-of-oxygen-os-builds.4193183/ I downloaded the last flashable zip from here and I am now in the last stable version

DPirer said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-8t-rom-ota-oxygen-os-repo-of-oxygen-os-builds.4193183/ I downloaded the last flashable zip from here and I am now in the last stable version
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Thank you very much!! Did you need to backup your data? Did you lose it on updating?

Nirnic said:
Thank you very much!! Did you need to backup your data? Did you lose it on updating?
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No need, you don't lose anything, the phone remains the same. In fact, it updates itself from the SO.

My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.

Blazekitten said:
My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.
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Should I go back to oos11?

Blazekitten said:
My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.
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Are you absolutely sure it wasn't ddr5 before the update (it's a hardware thing, not software)?
Blazekitten said:
Should I go back to oos11?
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No.

BillGoss said:
Are you absolutely sure it wasn't ddr5 before the update (it's a hardware thing, not software)?
No.
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Yup bought my 8t at launch with ddr4x, phone now reporting its ddr5

Blazekitten said:
Yup bought my 8t at launch with ddr4x, phone now reporting its ddr5
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In that case, Wow!
So I went to check what my phone thinks it is (I'm also on OOS 12) and to my surprise ro.boot.ddr_type doesn't exist!
So, now I'm asking "Why do you think you are now ddr5 (a physical impossibility)?"

BillGoss said:
I'm that case, Wow!
So I went to check what my phone thinks it is (I'm also on OOS 12) and to my surprise ro.boot.ddr_type doesn't exist!
So, now I'm asking "Why do you think you are now ddr5 (a physical impossibility)?"
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yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.

Blazekitten said:
yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.
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CPU X tells its ddr5 quad channel

Blazekitten said:
yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.
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I checked what AIDA64 thinks my phone is and it says ddr4 (it's actually ddr5).
So I guess we shouldn't take any notice of what apps report.

BillGoss said:
I checked what AIDA64 thinks my phone is and it says ddr4 (it's actually ddr5).
So I guess we shouldn't take any notice of what apps report.
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Okay just a annoying bug, probably doesn't mean much

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First stable EMUI5.0 for Mate8 coming out on the 7th [UPDATE B562]

According to a posted timeline on the Chinese forum, the first stable version EMUI 5.0 will start getting pushed to the current B552 users on the 7th China time :victory:
source:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11157006-1-1.html
NXT-AL10C00B562
[UPDATE] Dec 7th:
Officially confirmed B562 is the first stable version.
7th push was only to the registered B552 beta testers. Rest of B552 users will get OTA starting on the 8th, as well as limited number of users on B386.
New link:
pan.baidu.com/s/1qYnO3RQ
https://mega.nz/#F!NR8hTL7D
Key: !rS2gD8llpL4WfpIeo4kR6g
update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1255/g104/v69008/f1/full/update.zip
update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/data/files/p3/s15/G1255/g104/v69008/f1/full/all/cn/update_data_full_all_cn.zip
Update steps gathered from the forum:
1. Download the B562 files.
2. Downgrade back to B368 or prior versions so you can request an OTA.
3. Let OTA download but don't install.
4. Find "HwOUC" folder on internal SD card and replace the "update.zip" and "update_data_full_all_cn.zip" with the two from B562.
5. Back to the OTA screen and let it install.
Great news, hope the dream comes true! It looks astonishing so might be great !
This will be a hard decision for us Mate 8 users... CM 13 by @_skypol0 or EMUI 5.0?
allweknowisa said:
This will be a hard decision for us Mate 8 users... CM 13 by @_skypol0 or EMUI 5.0?
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I'm watching a video that describes the features of EMUI 5.0, a large amount of them are already in CM-13.
Depends on person's tastes The most important is to have the choice IMO.
CM-14 for the Mate 8 is also in my furture plans. Just need to wait for Huawei.
That's good news. Now we are waiting for root!!!
Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
When you said the 7th, is that the 7th of December?
Also, does it say if this release is international? I was looking at the thread but google translate doesn't say anything understandable....
DerpTurtle said:
When you said the 7th, is that the 7th of December?
Also, does it say if this release is international? I was looking at the thread but google translate doesn't say anything understandable....
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7th of December. I believe only AL10 is on B552, and if this is a limited release it will first be pushed to those 10500 users who have officially registered for the B552. But I mean once the update is in the wild it's only a matter of time till someone releases the update file. Fingers crossed
ccldb said:
7th of December. I believe only AL10 is on B552, and if this is a limited release it will first be pushed to those 10500 users who have officially registered for the B552. But I mean once the update is in the wild it's only a matter of time till someone releases the update file. Fingers crossed
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I was thinking it would be an OTA update? Honestly EMUI is the best OS I have used on Android and it would be great to have an update.
I have an AL10, and OTAs are slow to push for my device.
DerpTurtle said:
I was thinking it would be an OTA update? Honestly EMUI is the best OS I have used on Android and it would be great to have an update.
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Yes it will be OTA. This is the first phone I find rooting wasn't that necessary.
anwedr said:
I have an AL10, and OTAs are slow to push for my device.
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I have been using dload method since EMUI 4.1 because I couldn't wait for the push.
Do you still have the "HiCare" app? Go to the "update" section and you can sort of register your device to receive update. Sometimes it will pull the update right away.
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/d...ull/update.zip Size: 1412879363
http://update.hicloud.com:8180/TDS/d...ull/update.zip Size: 247737395
Link is for NXT-AL10C00B562
Not sure if this is the actual package. Someone check.
Did someone flash it?
danterape said:
Did someone flash it?
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Can't download, 404 error
from the first link it does work. im not sure if i wanna flash it for now but maybe someone will and can tell us what should we think about it
anyway,why 2 lilnks are in the first post?
danterape said:
from the first link it does work. im not sure if i wanna flash it for now but maybe someone will and can tell us what should we think about it
anyway,why 2 lilnks are in the first post?
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But why 2 links with 2 different files of sizes completely different ???
danterape said:
from the first link it does work. im not sure if i wanna flash it for now but maybe someone will and can tell us what should we think about it
anyway,why 2 lilnks are in the first post?
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a029159 said:
But why 2 links with 2 different files of sizes completely different ???
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Maybe think before asking ,one ota and one full lol
gm007 said:
Maybe think before asking ,one ota and one full lol
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OTA for the first relase?
gm007 said:
Maybe think before asking ,one ota and one full lol
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So...does it mean, without thinking that the full update will be flashable on a NON ROOTED Mate 8, as mine, with "classical" Dload method ???? That would be great, but I don't want to launch on this unsecure process without being sure...So I will wait a little bit more...
So has anyone flashed it yet?
danterape said:
OTA for the first relase?
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a029159 said:
So...does it mean, without thinking that the full update will be flashable on a NON ROOTED Mate 8, as mine, with "classical" Dload method ???? That would be great, but I don't want to launch on this unsecure process without being sure...So I will wait a little bit more...
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Anyone told you that this is the official stable release?
So this update same as all the beta updates.

[SOLVED] A2017 4G 64GB has 16GB memory and support 4G?

I have a silly question. I've purchased a A2017 4G 64GB. However I only see 16GB memory in the storage. I thought it is supposed to have 64GB. Am I wrong?
I've installed A2017U B29. Does it support 4G network?
Out of 64 you should see close to 50 available probably on a new device. That's just a rough guess.
I have a lot of apps and only have used 24gb out of 64.
tolymatev said:
Out of 64 you should see close to 50 available probably on a new device. That's just a rough guess.
I have a lot of apps and only have used 24gb out of 64.
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Here is my screenshot. There is only 16GB. I don't know what's going on here.
Thalias said:
Here is my screenshot. There is only 16GB. I don't know what's going on here.
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Contact ZTE with that screenshot. They dont even have a 16gb version so its not like they could of sent you a wrong Device.
tolymatev said:
Contact ZTE with that screenshot. They dont even have a 16gb version so its not like they could of sent you a wrong Device.
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You're correct that they don't have 16gb version. But the device is correct besides rom size.
Did it read as 16GB even before you flashed the A2017U firmware?
tolymatev said:
Contact ZTE with that screenshot. They dont even have a 16gb version so its not like they could of sent you a wrong Device.
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Just read what he said here.
Thalias said:
I've installed A2017U B29. Does it support 4G network?
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I won't be contacting ZTE at all, cuz he have modded his device.
@Thalias
Did you flash B29 bootstack as well? Cuz you shouldn't have done that.
xtermmin said:
Did it read as 16GB even before you flashed the A2017U firmware?
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Yes for sure
DrakenFX said:
Just read what he said here.
I won't be contacting ZTE at all, cuz he have modded his device.
@Thalias
Did you flash B29 bootstack as well? Cuz you shouldn't have done that.
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No, I did not do that.
Thalias said:
No, I did not do that.
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If you say so,ok cool.
Try downloading the version you where before in your A2017,
* Perform a FORMAT DATA
* Flash A2017 zips files
* Reboot back to System and check if that helps.
I haven't run into this case before, so this may or may Not help.
DrakenFX said:
If you say so,ok cool.
Try downloading the version you where before in your A2017,
* Perform a FORMAT DATA
* Flash A2017 zips files
* Reboot back to System and check if that helps.
I haven't run into this case before, so this may or may Not help.
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I am confusing between wiping and format. Are you talking about wiping data? I did do that before flashing A2017U.
I don't remember which A2017 version it was but I did upate to the latest version via OTA. Do you think I can get latest zip file? Do I use TWRP or original recovery? Should I format internal sd card before flashing?
Thanks for all your helps
Thalias said:
Yes for sure
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If your device was having hardware issues, then why did you flash the A2017U firmware?
xtermmin said:
If your device was having hardware issues, then why did you flash the A2017U firmware?
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I completely did not notice about incorrect rom volume though I saw it. It is too late anyway :crying:
DrakenFX said:
If you say so,ok cool.
Try downloading the version you where before in your A2017,
* Perform a FORMAT DATA
* Flash A2017 zips files
* Reboot back to System and check if that helps.
I haven't run into this case before, so this may or may Not help.
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It actually works. Thank you so so much. :victory:

Mclaren update to 9.0.11?

Hi, I have the Mclaren, just got the notice to update and I am rooted so it says to download the full ROM, will I lose the Mclaren features? Anybody done it successfully?
Thanks,
aaronc_98 said:
Hi, I have the Mclaren, just got the notice to update and I am rooted so it says to download the full ROM, will I lose the Mclaren features? Anybody done it successfully?
Thanks,
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I just updated to 9.0.11. I believe this is McLaren edition specific. All McLaren features still work on mine. Also seems like it's faster and smoother now. Damn I love this phone!
Sarchie1982 said:
I just updated to 9.0.11. I believe this is McLaren edition specific. All McLaren features still work on mine. Also seems like it's faster and smoother now. Damn I love this phone!
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Would it be possible for you to upload the zip? Please
twinnfamous said:
Would it be possible for you to upload the zip? Please
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I'm not rooted.. Can I do that without root access?
Sarchie1982 said:
I'm not rooted.. Can I do that without root access?
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If you can find where the ota downloaded to.
But it most likely got deleted after update.
aaronc_98 said:
Hi, I have the Mclaren, just got the notice to update and I am rooted so it says to download the full ROM, will I lose the Mclaren features? Anybody done it successfully?
Thanks,
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Does it tell you where to download the ROM From?
The site doesn't have the McLaren ROMs, only the generic ones.
twinnfamous said:
If you can find where the ota downloaded to.
But it most likely got deleted after update.
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I found the OTA file but it is denying me access because I am not rooted
Sarchie1982 said:
I found the OTA file but it is denying me access because I am not rooted
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Do you have unlocked bootloader?
If so you can temp boot twrp and go to file manager in twrp and copy it to download folder
twinnfamous said:
Do you have unlocked bootloader?
If so you can temp boot twrp and go to file manager in twrp and copy it to download folder
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No I'm not. 100% stock right now. I haven't needed unlock/root just yet. I most likely will in the near future. Sorry brotha. I know you can relock the bootloader and unroot then download the OTA but that is a pain. It may be the only way for now until someone uploads the zip...
Sarchie1982 said:
No I'm not. 100% stock right now. I haven't needed unlock/root just yet. I most likely will in the near future. Sorry brotha. I know you can relock the bootloader and unroot then download the OTA but that is a pain. It may be the only way for now until someone uploads the zip...
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Thank you anyways.
Just got the update, so glad I sold my S9+. I was an original One Plus One owner. I'm glad I came back.
twinnfamous said:
Would it be possible for you to upload the zip? Please
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I just uploaded McLaren version here
ferk said:
I just uploaded McLaren version here
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Hi, This is 34_OTA
McLaren is 45_OTA
Do you have an actual McLaren device or a device with a McLaren Ported ROM?
34 ist correct. Also saved mine while the update was being executed.
JazonX said:
Hi, This is 34_OTA
McLaren is 45_OTA
Do you have an actual McLaren device or a device with a McLaren Ported ROM?
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Of course I have a real McLaren phone.
And the two updates I have received from stock 9.0.9 to 9.0.10 and 9.0.11 have both been with 34_OTA in the filename.
As far as I know 45_OTA doesn't exist, McLaren is still a OnePlus 6T.
dreinulldrei said:
34 ist correct. Also saved mine while the update was being executed.
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ferk said:
Of course I have a real McLaren phone.
And the two updates I have received from stock 9.0.9 to 9.0.10 and 9.0.11 have both been with 34_OTA in the filename.
As far as I know 45_OTA doesn't exist, McLaren is still a OnePlus 6T.
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Check the attached image.
So I assume I can't flash your OTA file with mine, yeah?
JazonX said:
Check the attached image.
So I assume I can't flash your OTA file with mine, yeah?
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Your first screenshot shows exactly the same information as my McLaren phone.
So you are good to go.
ferk said:
Your first screenshot shows exactly the same information as my McLaren phone.
So you are good to go.
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34 won't install over 45.
Mine is a A6013_45
JazonX said:
34 won't install over 45.
Mine is a A6013_45
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Mine is also A6013_45, and 34_OTA was the file I automatically retrieved to my McLaren A6013_45
and it of course installed just fine.
Well, enough of this, I'm going out to eat.
Sarchie1982 said:
I just updated to 9.0.11. I believe this is McLaren edition specific. All McLaren features still work on mine. Also seems like it's faster and smoother now. Damn I love this phone!
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Did you do the ota? My question is very specific, I am rooted and must do the full rom not the ota, will this work for McLaren? Did you do the full rom?
Okay, so I did the full rom update and everything stayed McLaren...

How to convert updated Hydrogen OS (10.0.7) to Oxygen OS

Is there any way without rooting the device? From Hydrogen OS (10.0.7) to Oxygen OS?
jayphee18 said:
Is there any way without rooting the device? From Hydrogen OS (10.0.7) to Oxygen OS?
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Nope. Normally MSM tool would be the method, but MSM tools have been made to not flash devices other than the device they were designed for starting with this device. Root will be the only method of there is a way going forward. Only 7 Pro and older will allow for this.
champ784 said:
Nope. Normally MSM tool would be the method, but MSM tools have been made to not flash devices other than the device they were designed for starting with this device. Root will be the only method of there is a way going forward. Only 7 Pro and older will allow for this.
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Thanks for the response I tried to install an open beta Oxygen OS and it worked, so perhaps install the stable version after?
jayphee18 said:
Thanks for the response I tried to install an open beta Oxygen OS and it worked, so perhaps install the stable version after?
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Wait, are you on the chinest variant or the TMO?
champ784 said:
Wait, are you on the chinest variant or the TMO?
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yes chinese variant HD1910
jayphee18 said:
yes chinese variant HD1910
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Oh that's why. Sorry, I always assume people are referring to the TMO 5G variant from the US. In that case, conversion works!

IN2025 - Open Beta 3 to Stable Branch

Hello!
I've got the IN2025 (global/NA) version of the OP8Pro and have been running Open Beta since it released. I want to downstep to the Stable branch of releases as I plan on selling the phone soon, so don't want it on a beta build when I do so. However I've not been able to figure out how. I attempted downloading and attempting a forced update and it didn't work, and have not been able to figure out how to get it working.
Anyone able to help?
There's a few guides for this already but generally speaking going from ob3 to stable you'll need to wipe.
1. Back up
2. Disable magisk modules
3. Download oxygen updater.
4. Take the install
5-A) I didn't use the ob3 release but at this point if you were going from 10 stable or 11 stable to 11 stable then you would click install on the update and then before rebooting you would install magisk to the slot after OTA, you can try this but may not work and shouldn't make any difference.
Or
5-B) take the update, let it wipe, set up phone, install magisk manager then flash a patched boot.img
You didn't state of you're rooted or not, If you're not rooted then follow 5-B but obviously don't bother rooting.
If you are then it's your choice.
5-A would be considered a dirty flash, I'm not sure if it will allow it coming from OB to stable, it should seem obvious when you're going through it.
I just downloaded an unofficial rom that allowed a downgrade and straight from than just to be on the safe side installed the official current firmware
Shipoftheline said:
I just downloaded an unofficial rom that allowed a downgrade and straight from than just to be on the safe side installed the official current firmware
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Where did you find it?
Kollachi said:
Where did you find it?
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I just done a Google search
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-oneplus-8-pro-android-11-beta-download/
EDIT: Seems the links on this site are official downgrade links anyway
Shipoftheline said:
I just done a Google search
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-oneplus-8-pro-android-11-beta-download/
EDIT: Seems the links on this site are official downgrade links anyway
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Yeah i know this post. But i thought you have found an unofficial version which allows a downgrade without wipe.
Because i read something about that. Not sure if thats fake info.
Kollachi said:
Yeah i know this post. But i thought you have found an unofficial version which allows a downgrade without wipe.
Because i read something about that. Not sure if thats fake info.
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I don't think you can actually do that.
From my experiences. Especially between bases ie: 11 to 10
dladz said:
I don't think you can actually do that.
From my experiences. Especially between bases ie: 11 to 10
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Yeah i know. But Open Beta --> Stable should work.
Kollachi said:
Yeah i know. But Open Beta --> Stable should work.
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Id have thought it would as 10 to 11 worked fine for me without a wipe.
Kollachi said:
Yeah i know this post. But i thought you have found an unofficial version which allows a downgrade without wipe.
Because i read something about that. Not sure if thats fake info.
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You've got a newer version of the Firmware installed now so why would you want to even try downgrading without wiping, talk about compatibility problems
Shipoftheline said:
You've got a newer version of the Firmware installed now so why would you want to even try downgrading without wiping, talk about compatibility problems
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Dude what you are talking about? I don't want to try anything. I have just misread his post and thought he was able to downgrade from open beta to stable without wipe. He said "unofficial rom" and i read somewhere there were some guys able to do that with a modified rom. That's all.

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