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Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)

I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)

DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.

Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810

I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

Is the Redmi Pro the best Xiaomi device atm?

Hi,
I am pretty new to the Xiaomi- and especially to the Mediathek-world. This is why I have this noob question :silly:
Is the Redmi Pro currently the top smartphone by Xiaomi, at least hardware-wise?
Of course, besides Mi5/S, which run the SD 820/821...
Or is e.g. the Note 4 the stronger device, or any other? As far as I know, the Redmi-line is more a budget-thing, right?
Thx for any info on this! :highfive:
Best
P

Redmi Pro is known as the Xiaomi Redmi's flagship and that means It is the strongest of the Redmi's even that it is Mediatek powered . mediatek disadvantage is that they does not release sources (which is needed for compiling custom roms and kernels) and the Snapdragon release its sources thats because snapdragon devices are the most wanted and that means bigger price but weaker phone. redmi pro's helio x20 or x25 is compared to snapdragon 810 and and its very close to sd 820. Redmi note 4 has the same chip (x20) but isnt better than redmi pro.Redmi note 4 PRO has a sd652 and that means it has more development for that device.
If you want a phone with a lot development buy redmi note 4 PRO --- if you want a stronger phone buy REDMI PRO.
PS: the best xiaomi for now is MI MIX (the bezelles device

Thank you very much! My times of ROM-hopping are over...my current S7 is not even rooted...so I guess the Redmi Pro will be my first try on the chinese devices (Huawei P9 would be interesting, too, but I am searching for a bigger phone)
I have checked the Mix, it looks gorgeous and I would love to get my hands on this, but the price is far from what I invest in smartphones normally...
So, next step is checking the int. Xiaomi-ROM for the Pro, how to install and what to expect...

The best xiaomi device now is mi5, mi mix, mi note 2.

S7 has much better camera. Redmi Pro is not considered as flagman.
Xiaomi has better models like Mi5.
Even so I would prefare Redmi Pro because of OLED display.
But now Im having trouble with flashing ROM as it doesn't has official global vertion. So you need to apply for unlock bootloader and wait. Some people wait more than 10 days.

It's a good phone but with some really annoying hang ups. ( performance in general is good to very good with occasional lag due to bad core switching, screen is nice although a tad dim for outdoor use, build quality is great)
First of all the camera is a complete waste of time and this appears to be a software issue as the sensor it's self is capable of taking decent photographs. But it's honestly one of the worst smart phone cameras I've used and I've used a lot.
If you've ever used a blackberry in 2010-2011 that's the sort of quality so expect only at higher resolutions.
Second of all Xiaomi appears to have abandoned further development for the device ( no news on 7.0)
Also its missing wireless n support which is just weird, doesn't bother me oh so much as I rarely transfer files over WiFi but still an odd omission.

vinterneti said:
S7 has much better camera. Redmi Pro is not considered as flagman.
Xiaomi has better models like Mi5.
Even so I would prefare Redmi Pro because of OLED display.
But now Im having trouble with flashing ROM as it doesn't has official global vertion. So you need to apply for unlock bootloader and wait. Some people wait more than 10 days.
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He said the flagship for the xiaomi redmi series not xiaomi mi series

impressive copy of Xiaomi Mix

ELEPHONE S8
- 6.0 Inch Corning Gorilla Glass Sharp 2K Screen, 2560*1440 Pixel
- Helio X25 MTK6797T 2.5GHz Deca Core
- Support Touch ID
- 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM
- 21 MP Sony Back Camera + 8 MP Sony Front Camera
- Android 7.1 System
- 4000mAh Battery, Support PE+ Quick Charge
- Aluminum metal body & 3D Curved Lumia Glass Back Design
- Dual SIM: NANO SIM + NANO SIM, Not Support TF Card
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
For ~ 220 €
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmL5Iqq-pIM
I have myself the Xiaomi Mix but im impressed with this copy considering it has A MUCH BETTER CAMERA THAN a 600 € Phone and the FP is in front of the device.
Is this the next bang for the buck phone ?
discuss

Screen size & processor the only let down.

I never owned an elephant before but the specs looks good for the price

My Opinion is based on research and this reviews from devicespecifications .com
- No headphone jack (Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz)
- 4000 mAh battery, but for that size average SoT of 4h real usage and 6 videos only (Mi Mix has about double the SoT, about the best SoT any flagship has to offer)
- Nowadays small absolute price diffrence, for a device intended to be kept for 2 years. For a short time the Mi Mix was available in septembre for 399 DOLLARS, bought mine last week for 384 Euros.
- Elephone isn't good at optimising their system. Hiccups although the x25 should be potent enough
- Display quality, about half as bright with 250cd/m² to 500cd/m². Higher black levels and worse contrast ratio compared to the Mi Mix.
+ The Elephone S8 is very compact for 16:9 with 6inch. I think many would prefer that size over the one of the Mi Mix.
+ More durable due to the metal frame in case of a fall, and the back is plastic, not glass (false advertising)
+ Sensors and reception seem to be all right, not very good but acceptable
+ B20 Support
+ I trust you that the camera is better, but if the camera is important, close to all chinese phones including the Mi Mix suck relatively speaking. It's literally the thing they cut costs with, everything above an LG G2 or a Galaxy S3 has a better camera, that's how much they suck.
General Opinion: All those copies, Maze Alpha, Elephone S8, Leagoo Mix, Umi Crystal Mix, all they do is using the tri-bezelless design, although they cheat even more with their pics than xiaomi does, with larger bezzels. But they lack all the other stuff that makes the mix outstanding, without mentioning the display (one of the best sounding DACs with 3.5mm jack, a big battery with GOOD battery life, premium feel).
Not bad for the price, better than some Mi Mix copies. But it's no bang for the buck, no deal. +50€ and it would be too expensive for what it delivers. There are Mix clones for 50€ less that will give you the same user experience. It stands no ground against the Mi Mix.
The Vernee Mix 2 going to be released this month seems to be more promising on the design with acceptable specs for 160€, more what I call bang for the buck compared to the clones we have. It won't compete with the mi mix, but it may be an overall good device without any big flaws. If it delivers.

Elephone = Bad support + Bad ROM...
Need more improvment before considering to be impressive !

I've found that any device that isn't running a snapdragon either sucks badly and / or has terrible software support.
Not trying to be stereotypical here but I've had my share of devices and this is what it boiled down to.
This is also the main reason why I tend to stay far far away from those nowadays.

Does exist an AOSP custom rom for an MTK Helio?
That's the bottleneck in my opinion...

nr-thunder said:
Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz.
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I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?

scotto541 said:
I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?
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Unfortunately I haven't found the name of the model. It is a dedicated 24bit 192khz DAC according to the review from devicespecifactions...com and many other reviews, although everyone may repeats what somebody else said because I haven't found a real verification in any review. BTW the qualcomm inbuilt DAC of the SD821 also has 24bit 192khz. I've also read that many OEMs restrict the Qualcomm DAC in some way, so even with the same Qualcomm DAC there may be diffrences. In a comparison review with the mate 9 and honor note 8 from Techzilla, he praised it and said that it is comparable to the HTC 10. I didn't open the device, but my personal comparison with the galaxy note 4 it sounds a little bit better.. It definetly is louder (50% Mix = GN4 70%), and also has a bit more punch even if I go a little bit lower with the volume, if I am not biased by my expactations (using 10€ KZ ZST). There is also a reddit discussion (google mi mix dac), where BENQ3000 could use the mi mix with hard to drive headphones which require more juice. In the end it's noticable, but the Qualcomm DACs sound very good too with most headphones. I think AOSP ROMs would use the Qualcomm DAC, if I disable Hi-Fi audio in the settings it still sounds good too me, so go with the ROM you like regardless. As long as there is no clipping or other issues it doesn't really matter, the DAC is not powerful enough to replace my real amplifier for my 100Watts desktop speakers anyway .

Honor 7X vs Xiaomi Mi A1 from Battery, Design, Camera and more?

Honor introduced a new budget competitor in the Indian smartphone market with the recent launch of the Honor 7X. Unveiled at an event in London in December, the Honor 7X carries everything that makes it stand apart from the rest of the budget line-up prevalent in the Indian market. A bezel-less display, dual camera setup and Honor’s own processor coupled with its own user interface comes as quite a bold offering by the Chinese smartphone manufacturer at its price point of Rs 12,999.
Speaking of Chinese OEMs, another player in the market has been dominating the budget segment for quite a while now. While Xiaomi started out with its Redmi Note series, with the Redmi Note 4 being the most sold smartphone in the country this year, the company also experimented with its line-up by launching an Android One smartphone in 2017. Xiaomi Mi A1, another budget offering by Xiaomi, came as a refreshing change from its existing line-up which mostly ran on Xiaomi’s own MIUI. The Mi A1 boasts of a pure Android experience, along with a dual camera setup for the photography enthusiasts. Having the same price tag at Rs 12,999, a clash with the new Honor 7X is inevitable for the Mi A1. Hence, here is a comparison between the two smartphones revealing where they come out on top and where they lack.
Also read: Honor 7X vs Redmi Note 4 vs Lenovo K8 Note [Specs]: Is There a New Budget King in Town?
Design
Honor 7X has an unarguably premium feel to it with the metal casing and rounded edges. The front dons an 18:9 display with minimum bezels and looks neat. The upper bezel simply sports the in-call speaker and the selfie camera, while the bottom bezel elegantly displays the ‘Honor’ sign. The smartphone comes in an aluminium chassis and sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Xiaomi Mi A1, on the other hand, looks just like any other Android smartphone. It carries a minimalistic design with prominent bezels on both the top and the bottom. The Mi A1 comes in a full metal design and also sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Display
The Honor 7X sports a 5.93-inch near bezel-less, Full HD+ display with a 2160 x 1080 pixel resolution and a Corning Gorilla Glass protection on top. The near bezel-less display comes with an 18:9 aspect ratio display. During our use, we found the display of the Honor 7X to be an absolute treat at its price point, with ample colours, optimum brightness and a crisp viewing experience.
In comparison, the Xiaomi Mi A1 carries a 5.5-inch display with a 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution and is protected by a Corning Gorilla Glass 3. The Mi A1 display comes with a 16:9 aspect ratio, like the one on most of the budget smartphones in the market. We found the display to be decent in our use, with the ability to cater to users looking for a regular budget smartphone experience.
Also read: Honor 7X First Impressions Review: Honor Has an Ace up Its Sleeve
Watch: Honor 7X Review | The Upgrade to Your Honor 6X
Firepower
Just like any other Honor smartphone, Honor 7X is powered by the company’s own HiSilicon Kirin processor. The one backing the 7X is an octa-core Kirin 659 SoC, which is further coupled with a 4GB RAM and a 32GB internal storage, which can be further expanded up to 256GB using an external microSD. The smartphone runs Honor’s in-house EMUI 5.1 on top of Android 7.1.1 Nougat. Currently, there is no confirmation on the Android Oreo update for the Honor 7X.
Xiaomi’s Mi A1 is powered by Qualcomm’s tried and tested Snapdragon 625 SoC with eight cores. In addition to this, the smartphone carries a 4GB RAM and a 64GB internal storage, further expandable up to 128GB using an external microSD. As a change from Xiaomi’s regular smartphone line-up, the Mi A1 skips the MIUI interface and instead runs Android 7.1 Nougat, being Xiaomi’s first Android One device in collaboration with Google. Xiaomi is currently looking for Beta testers for the Android Oreo update for this smartphone. There is no official confirmation for the release of the update as of now.
Camera
Honor has been known for the camera capabilities of its smartphones, ranging from the Honor 8 Pro, right down to the Honor 6X, which set the trend for affordable dual camera smartphones. Honor 7X now builds on that reputation and carries a dual camera setup with a 16-megapixel primary lens along with a 2-megapixel secondary lens for adding depth effect to the images. Overall, the camera is able to deliver very good picture quality. At the front, the Honor 7X houses an 8-megapixel selfie shooter, able to work at 1080p resolution and also deliver Bokeh effect to the selfies.
Xiaomi Mi A1 also sports a dual camera setup, with a 12-megapixel primary and a 12-megapixel secondary lens which together offer depth effect in the images and boast of a 2x optical zoom. At the front, the Mi A1 sports a 5-megapixel selfie camera with similar 1080p resolution capability.
Battery
Honor 7X is backed by a 3340 mAh battery, edging just over the 3080 mAh battery sported by the Xiaomi Mi A1. As the figures indicate, the Honor smartphone is able to last for a couple of hours more than the Mi A1 in practical use as well, despite the Honor 7X display consuming more battery for its daily run.
Verdict
There is no doubt that both the smartphones offer ample features at a budget price of Rs 12,999. While Xiaomi Mi A1 offers pure Android experience to its users, the Honor 7X delivers Honor’s own added features through the interactive EMUI. The cameras and the performance backup of both the smartphones are more or less similar, with their own minuscule pros and cons over each other. The Honor 7X, however, rises on top in terms of the display quality and the battery backup that the smartphone offers. Finally, the Honor device takes it away when it comes to the overall visual appeal of the smartphone, thanks to its near bezel-less display.
From honor forum
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I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. Never faced any lags or stutter in 7x. EMUI is well optimized OS.. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
Terrible charging time. 3 hours for full charge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
Some games really sucks....
Headphones output is average.
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1. Also the battery backup is fantastic in 7x.

Rajeev said:
I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
terrible charging time. 3 hours for full chatge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1
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This is how posts should be instead of rooting in fanboyism..

TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.

kvn95ss said:
TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.
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1. Yeap. Camera sucks in low light...The only fix is Google Camera HDR+. But unfortunately u need root. Good thing is now u can take Potrait shot with flashlight using Google Camera HDR+
2. Honestly i don't have that issue. Running Oreo and using Sony MDR in ear phone. Never experienced that hissing issue.
3. Yeap. Fast charge is good if they included but its charging really fast. For me its took 1 hour 44 minutes to charge with Samsung adaptive fast charger.. Even my old S7 Edge ( sold due to family issues) took almost 1 hour 33 minutes to charges from 1 to 100 ...
4. Auto brightness is slightly improved in Oreo IMO
5. Me always getting around 5 to 5.30... Never touched around 6. But thats pretty decent for my usage......

I have to admit the rear camera is very good on my A1 but I am not much of a camera guy and want a phone to be extremely snappy with a big display, My problem with the mi A1 was that while using the device you can feel there is something lacking in the software even after 3 update cycles and that really bugged me and with the 7x I get a gigantic display, excellent

Since all Honor phones are getting Project Treble with their Oreo update, the Honor 7X might also get that. That would put it ahead of Mi A1 Stock android as it would get updates just as fast and maybe even beyond Android P, while the Mi A1 only will update till P.

3yrs switch - Realme X2 pro ?

Hey,
I do not know that this I right place but I've got a question - dou you think that freshly released Realme X2 Pro would be a good switch from Axon 7 ? I know that I will miss high res screen but overall Realme spec is imo not that bad - 855+, up to 12/256, stereo with Dolby, 3,5mm Dolby (dual driver), 64mpx main camera, FHD+ 90hz amoled hmm... and awesome price of 399€ base (6/64) 499€ (12/256). Also good to mention that base model got only UFS 2.0 and models with 8/12 ram got UFS 3.0.
What are your thoughts ? Really appreciate for any help and maybe any other phones ? (Stereo is a need for me cuz I'm watching a loot videos on my phone), also a price not higher than 600€ would be awesome.

Other than price, I like my work Galaxy S10e. Lucky I didn't pay for it. It's a good phone.
Realme sounds like it could be an interesting one to try.