Honor 7X vs Xiaomi Mi A1 from Battery, Design, Camera and more? - Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers

Honor introduced a new budget competitor in the Indian smartphone market with the recent launch of the Honor 7X. Unveiled at an event in London in December, the Honor 7X carries everything that makes it stand apart from the rest of the budget line-up prevalent in the Indian market. A bezel-less display, dual camera setup and Honor’s own processor coupled with its own user interface comes as quite a bold offering by the Chinese smartphone manufacturer at its price point of Rs 12,999.
Speaking of Chinese OEMs, another player in the market has been dominating the budget segment for quite a while now. While Xiaomi started out with its Redmi Note series, with the Redmi Note 4 being the most sold smartphone in the country this year, the company also experimented with its line-up by launching an Android One smartphone in 2017. Xiaomi Mi A1, another budget offering by Xiaomi, came as a refreshing change from its existing line-up which mostly ran on Xiaomi’s own MIUI. The Mi A1 boasts of a pure Android experience, along with a dual camera setup for the photography enthusiasts. Having the same price tag at Rs 12,999, a clash with the new Honor 7X is inevitable for the Mi A1. Hence, here is a comparison between the two smartphones revealing where they come out on top and where they lack.
Also read: Honor 7X vs Redmi Note 4 vs Lenovo K8 Note [Specs]: Is There a New Budget King in Town?
Design
Honor 7X has an unarguably premium feel to it with the metal casing and rounded edges. The front dons an 18:9 display with minimum bezels and looks neat. The upper bezel simply sports the in-call speaker and the selfie camera, while the bottom bezel elegantly displays the ‘Honor’ sign. The smartphone comes in an aluminium chassis and sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Xiaomi Mi A1, on the other hand, looks just like any other Android smartphone. It carries a minimalistic design with prominent bezels on both the top and the bottom. The Mi A1 comes in a full metal design and also sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Display
The Honor 7X sports a 5.93-inch near bezel-less, Full HD+ display with a 2160 x 1080 pixel resolution and a Corning Gorilla Glass protection on top. The near bezel-less display comes with an 18:9 aspect ratio display. During our use, we found the display of the Honor 7X to be an absolute treat at its price point, with ample colours, optimum brightness and a crisp viewing experience.
In comparison, the Xiaomi Mi A1 carries a 5.5-inch display with a 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution and is protected by a Corning Gorilla Glass 3. The Mi A1 display comes with a 16:9 aspect ratio, like the one on most of the budget smartphones in the market. We found the display to be decent in our use, with the ability to cater to users looking for a regular budget smartphone experience.
Also read: Honor 7X First Impressions Review: Honor Has an Ace up Its Sleeve
Watch: Honor 7X Review | The Upgrade to Your Honor 6X
Firepower
Just like any other Honor smartphone, Honor 7X is powered by the company’s own HiSilicon Kirin processor. The one backing the 7X is an octa-core Kirin 659 SoC, which is further coupled with a 4GB RAM and a 32GB internal storage, which can be further expanded up to 256GB using an external microSD. The smartphone runs Honor’s in-house EMUI 5.1 on top of Android 7.1.1 Nougat. Currently, there is no confirmation on the Android Oreo update for the Honor 7X.
Xiaomi’s Mi A1 is powered by Qualcomm’s tried and tested Snapdragon 625 SoC with eight cores. In addition to this, the smartphone carries a 4GB RAM and a 64GB internal storage, further expandable up to 128GB using an external microSD. As a change from Xiaomi’s regular smartphone line-up, the Mi A1 skips the MIUI interface and instead runs Android 7.1 Nougat, being Xiaomi’s first Android One device in collaboration with Google. Xiaomi is currently looking for Beta testers for the Android Oreo update for this smartphone. There is no official confirmation for the release of the update as of now.
Camera
Honor has been known for the camera capabilities of its smartphones, ranging from the Honor 8 Pro, right down to the Honor 6X, which set the trend for affordable dual camera smartphones. Honor 7X now builds on that reputation and carries a dual camera setup with a 16-megapixel primary lens along with a 2-megapixel secondary lens for adding depth effect to the images. Overall, the camera is able to deliver very good picture quality. At the front, the Honor 7X houses an 8-megapixel selfie shooter, able to work at 1080p resolution and also deliver Bokeh effect to the selfies.
Xiaomi Mi A1 also sports a dual camera setup, with a 12-megapixel primary and a 12-megapixel secondary lens which together offer depth effect in the images and boast of a 2x optical zoom. At the front, the Mi A1 sports a 5-megapixel selfie camera with similar 1080p resolution capability.
Battery
Honor 7X is backed by a 3340 mAh battery, edging just over the 3080 mAh battery sported by the Xiaomi Mi A1. As the figures indicate, the Honor smartphone is able to last for a couple of hours more than the Mi A1 in practical use as well, despite the Honor 7X display consuming more battery for its daily run.
Verdict
There is no doubt that both the smartphones offer ample features at a budget price of Rs 12,999. While Xiaomi Mi A1 offers pure Android experience to its users, the Honor 7X delivers Honor’s own added features through the interactive EMUI. The cameras and the performance backup of both the smartphones are more or less similar, with their own minuscule pros and cons over each other. The Honor 7X, however, rises on top in terms of the display quality and the battery backup that the smartphone offers. Finally, the Honor device takes it away when it comes to the overall visual appeal of the smartphone, thanks to its near bezel-less display.
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I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. Never faced any lags or stutter in 7x. EMUI is well optimized OS.. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
Terrible charging time. 3 hours for full charge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
Some games really sucks....
Headphones output is average.
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1. Also the battery backup is fantastic in 7x.

Rajeev said:
I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
terrible charging time. 3 hours for full chatge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1
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This is how posts should be instead of rooting in fanboyism..

TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.

kvn95ss said:
TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.
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1. Yeap. Camera sucks in low light...The only fix is Google Camera HDR+. But unfortunately u need root. Good thing is now u can take Potrait shot with flashlight using Google Camera HDR+
2. Honestly i don't have that issue. Running Oreo and using Sony MDR in ear phone. Never experienced that hissing issue.
3. Yeap. Fast charge is good if they included but its charging really fast. For me its took 1 hour 44 minutes to charge with Samsung adaptive fast charger.. Even my old S7 Edge ( sold due to family issues) took almost 1 hour 33 minutes to charges from 1 to 100 ...
4. Auto brightness is slightly improved in Oreo IMO
5. Me always getting around 5 to 5.30... Never touched around 6. But thats pretty decent for my usage......

I have to admit the rear camera is very good on my A1 but I am not much of a camera guy and want a phone to be extremely snappy with a big display, My problem with the mi A1 was that while using the device you can feel there is something lacking in the software even after 3 update cycles and that really bugged me and with the 7x I get a gigantic display, excellent

Since all Honor phones are getting Project Treble with their Oreo update, the Honor 7X might also get that. That would put it ahead of Mi A1 Stock android as it would get updates just as fast and maybe even beyond Android P, while the Mi A1 only will update till P.

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Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)
DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810
I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

Mi 5s vs Mi 5

So I was really considering on buying the 5s but now thinking is it really worth it?
They are boasting about the camera but they removed OIS! IR blaster though that's not a deal breaker. Guess camera is the highlight really
Here's a decent video https://youtu.be/ffO30N8OxtM
I'm actually contemplating about the same choice. I almost bought Mi 5 Prime with 3GB RAM, but was a bit hesitant because of the following things:
Mi 5 is one of the easiest bend-breakable phones so you need some sturdy case to mitigate bend break problem
(un)availability of custom ROMs as I don't think I'd like running MIUI on the long run. I would rather put some as vanilla as possible OS on it
Ordering from China is a bit risky
But in the meantime Mi 5S came out and I really like that it has aluminium back and upgraded processor although I'm not sure whether there's significant performance difference between the two. But if I do buy myself Mi 5S, I'll likely have to wait for a longer time before I'll be able to get some vanilla Android on it. Pixel is just too crazy expensive.
I guess I'll wait a bit until we get some feedback from the community to see how well this device is built and performs.
Just my 2 cents:
1) OIS on the Mi5s is not available for the sensor atm, might be, "might be" due to its large sensor. (As Google Pixel phones do not have OIS as well)
-On the bright side, the DIS works like a charm :3
2) If you want to get yourself "Daydream VR ready", do get the Mi5s as the Snapdragon 821 supports it~ (even though the performance increase is not skyrocket high)
3) After watching several videos from Youtube about Mi5 and Mi5s, camera performance is in fact increased for the Mi5s.
-However, low light scenario based pictures and videos would have varying results I suppose.
-Since it uses the same sensor as Google Pixel but not as great as Google Pixel's camera quality, future updates "might" be able to increase the Mi5s camera performance. (Or maybe even custom ROMs).
4) From what I heard on chinese Mi5s reviews/hands on, the ultrasonic fingerprint reader's performance may vary. Might be due to its 'newborn' nature (it is a new tech, so optimisation might not be optimal).
5) Like what literadesign mentioned, the Mi5 surely is a "bendable" phone. I assume that Mi5s alloy body would have make it less bendable. (Hard to say, do not just buy it to try its bendable level lel)
In the end, it is all about your choice~
Damn, didn't know the mi5 bends easy. The mi5 with 4way axis is a joke, seen some vids
What other alternatives are the part from op3? Mayne Zuk z2 pro

impressive copy of Xiaomi Mix

ELEPHONE S8
- 6.0 Inch Corning Gorilla Glass Sharp 2K Screen, 2560*1440 Pixel
- Helio X25 MTK6797T 2.5GHz Deca Core
- Support Touch ID
- 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM
- 21 MP Sony Back Camera + 8 MP Sony Front Camera
- Android 7.1 System
- 4000mAh Battery, Support PE+ Quick Charge
- Aluminum metal body & 3D Curved Lumia Glass Back Design
- Dual SIM: NANO SIM + NANO SIM, Not Support TF Card
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
For ~ 220 €
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmL5Iqq-pIM
I have myself the Xiaomi Mix but im impressed with this copy considering it has A MUCH BETTER CAMERA THAN a 600 € Phone and the FP is in front of the device.
Is this the next bang for the buck phone ?
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Screen size & processor the only let down.
I never owned an elephant before but the specs looks good for the price
My Opinion is based on research and this reviews from devicespecifications .com
- No headphone jack (Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz)
- 4000 mAh battery, but for that size average SoT of 4h real usage and 6 videos only (Mi Mix has about double the SoT, about the best SoT any flagship has to offer)
- Nowadays small absolute price diffrence, for a device intended to be kept for 2 years. For a short time the Mi Mix was available in septembre for 399 DOLLARS, bought mine last week for 384 Euros.
- Elephone isn't good at optimising their system. Hiccups although the x25 should be potent enough
- Display quality, about half as bright with 250cd/m² to 500cd/m². Higher black levels and worse contrast ratio compared to the Mi Mix.
+ The Elephone S8 is very compact for 16:9 with 6inch. I think many would prefer that size over the one of the Mi Mix.
+ More durable due to the metal frame in case of a fall, and the back is plastic, not glass (false advertising)
+ Sensors and reception seem to be all right, not very good but acceptable
+ B20 Support
+ I trust you that the camera is better, but if the camera is important, close to all chinese phones including the Mi Mix suck relatively speaking. It's literally the thing they cut costs with, everything above an LG G2 or a Galaxy S3 has a better camera, that's how much they suck.
General Opinion: All those copies, Maze Alpha, Elephone S8, Leagoo Mix, Umi Crystal Mix, all they do is using the tri-bezelless design, although they cheat even more with their pics than xiaomi does, with larger bezzels. But they lack all the other stuff that makes the mix outstanding, without mentioning the display (one of the best sounding DACs with 3.5mm jack, a big battery with GOOD battery life, premium feel).
Not bad for the price, better than some Mi Mix copies. But it's no bang for the buck, no deal. +50€ and it would be too expensive for what it delivers. There are Mix clones for 50€ less that will give you the same user experience. It stands no ground against the Mi Mix.
The Vernee Mix 2 going to be released this month seems to be more promising on the design with acceptable specs for 160€, more what I call bang for the buck compared to the clones we have. It won't compete with the mi mix, but it may be an overall good device without any big flaws. If it delivers.
Elephone = Bad support + Bad ROM...
Need more improvment before considering to be impressive !
I've found that any device that isn't running a snapdragon either sucks badly and / or has terrible software support.
Not trying to be stereotypical here but I've had my share of devices and this is what it boiled down to.
This is also the main reason why I tend to stay far far away from those nowadays.
Does exist an AOSP custom rom for an MTK Helio?
That's the bottleneck in my opinion...
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Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz.
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I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?
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I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?
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Unfortunately I haven't found the name of the model. It is a dedicated 24bit 192khz DAC according to the review from devicespecifactions...com and many other reviews, although everyone may repeats what somebody else said because I haven't found a real verification in any review. BTW the qualcomm inbuilt DAC of the SD821 also has 24bit 192khz. I've also read that many OEMs restrict the Qualcomm DAC in some way, so even with the same Qualcomm DAC there may be diffrences. In a comparison review with the mate 9 and honor note 8 from Techzilla, he praised it and said that it is comparable to the HTC 10. I didn't open the device, but my personal comparison with the galaxy note 4 it sounds a little bit better.. It definetly is louder (50% Mix = GN4 70%), and also has a bit more punch even if I go a little bit lower with the volume, if I am not biased by my expactations (using 10€ KZ ZST). There is also a reddit discussion (google mi mix dac), where BENQ3000 could use the mi mix with hard to drive headphones which require more juice. In the end it's noticable, but the Qualcomm DACs sound very good too with most headphones. I think AOSP ROMs would use the Qualcomm DAC, if I disable Hi-Fi audio in the settings it still sounds good too me, so go with the ROM you like regardless. As long as there is no clipping or other issues it doesn't really matter, the DAC is not powerful enough to replace my real amplifier for my 100Watts desktop speakers anyway .

OnePlus 8 Pro?

I currently have a Pixel 2XL and am starting to itch for an upgrade. I was excited for the Pixel 4XL but I can't justify the price for what you get. Then the OnePlus 7 Pro caught my eye and I'm considering buying that with the Black Friday deal.
Do you guys think it would be worth waiting for the OnePlus 8 Pro (April-May 2020) or should I just pull the trigger on the 7 Pro with it's current discount?
I'd go for the OP7Pro if the black friday discounts are substantial. selling the OP7Pro in future will not suffer much loses if you wish to change phones in future.
Get the 7Pro for the win! Then trade up to the 8 later...
Getting the OnePlus 7Pro was the largest jump in phones as far as tech/display and just all around happiness with the device(previously used the LG G7/Mi Mix 3). Easily money well spent and to be honest, if i completely bricked this one i would try to buy another one to replace it.
Well I heard the 8 is gonna have a hole punch. So if you want the gorgeous display get the 7pro
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Well I heard the 8 is gonna have a hole punch. So if you want the gorgeous display get the 7pro
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HOLE PUNCH?!?!???! BLEGGHH. I cant go from a full, un-interrupted display to a silly looking punch hole in my screen. I really loved the look on the Mi Mix 3 and i love the look on the 7Pro( i never use front facing camera's anyway)
I have both the 2xl and OP7 pro and love both. 2xl camera still runs laps around 7 pro but 7 pro is in another league in every other measurable.
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I have both the 2xl and OP7 pro and love both. 2xl camera still runs laps around 7 pro but 7 pro is in another league in every other measurable.
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That is disappointing to hear. I love the camera on my Pixel 2XL and feel it might be the only thing to make me return the OnePlus 7 Pro when I get it.
In my personal opinion I feel that camera quality is very subjective. Let's face it, we are talking about looking at the majority of our pictures on a 5 or 6 inch screen that has more resolution than most TV's! The only way you can tell if one camera is better than another is to hold them side-by-side while looking at the exact same photo....who does this? The camera on the 7 Pro is great...it takes pictures...in color....on a fairly large high resolution screen. To make our choice for a "phone" (communication device) based on how accurate the pictures might be (which again is subjective) is not the way to do things. There are too many other things that are necessary for one of these compact computers to work properly that I feel that the camera is the last, and the least important. If the battery runs out...no pictures...if you cannot maintain a good network signal, then you basically have an overpriced camera. It's just gotten way out of normal reasoning to worry so much about the camera on a smart phone. YMMV
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That is disappointing to hear. I love the camera on my Pixel 2XL and feel it might be the only thing to make me return the OnePlus 7 Pro when I get it.
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There is a ported gcam app for OP7 that closes the quality gap a bit but you have to be rooted to use the Telephoto, and Wide lenses with it. The upgrade is still worth.
I wish the front cam cutout were in the middle and not on the left side like how it's shown in the leaks @ 8 Pro.
OnePlus 8
OnePlus continues to attract attention until the official announcement of the OnePlus 8 phones, and once again new official images emerge showing the colors of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
This year, OnePlus introduces an exclusive blue color for OnePlus 8 Pro, or is known as Ultramarine Blue, on the other hand, OnePlus OnePlus 8 Pro is presented in green or Glacial Green hue, which is also offered for OnePlus 8 flagship edition.
Oneplus OnePlus 8 Pro and OnePlus 8 are slated to be offered in Onyx black, and OnePlus 8 Pro does not come in blue like the Interstellar Glow model presented in OnePlus 8.
Roland Quandt also highlighted new leaks on the OnePlus 8 Pro screen that appears curved design on both sides, while the screen appears flat in the main version of OnePlus 8.
OnePlus 8 Pro also comes with a 6.78-inch AMOLED display, with a refresh rate of 120 Hz, and the screen brightness ratio reaches 1,300 nits.
Previous leaks confirmed that OnePlus 8 Pro has 48-megapixel sensors, with the main Sony IMX689 sensor 1 / 1.43 and 1.12µm pixels, while the IMX586 sensor comes with wide viewing angles, with an 8-megapixel zoom sensor, and it supports up to 3 times optical zoom , While the last 5MP sensor comes to collect more accurate color detail.
It is reported that OnePlus company recently confirmed that the OnePlus 8 Pro phone was launched with a Snapdragon 865 processor, and also reviewed the efficiency of the refresh rate of 120 Hz in the screen, the phone also comes with LPDDR5 standards in random memory, and UFS 3.0 standards in storage capacity, as the phones support 5G networks .
Current Pixel 2 user - I'm going to ride out the last year of Google support and jump ship next year. Will be interesting to see the advancements going to the 5nm SD875, which I assume will be on most of 2021 flagships!

J5 2016 Replacement/ upgrade advice please

It's (beyond) time for me to get a more current phone. Here's my requirements:
5.2 - 5.5"
rootable (bootloader unlockable)
full 64bit hardware (not just the CPU) + 64bit (ARM) Android
at least 32 GB internal storage, better 64 GB
3 or more GB RAM
13 or more Megapixel camera resolution
precise GPS module for Navigation
natively supporting at least Android 9 for native EdXposed capability, better Android 10
stable custom ROM with active current support available (preferred: LineageOS)
SD card slot (dual sim optional)
needn't be new, can be used
LTE is fine - no need for 5G (5G would be fine thanks to downwards capability with LTE/ 4G)
colors: white, silver, dark green, blue/ lavender (no black)
NOT a Huawei
Do above criteria ring any bell? Which phone(s) would you suggest to me?
just purchased a Nokia 6.1 (aka Nokia 6 2018) for €200
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Hi, noticed you already bought your phone, but maybe next time if you need advice, then also mention your budget.
Either way, the Nokia 6.1 isnt a great phone, if you can sell it then I'd recommend going for a Poco M3 (Xiaomi) in the USD220 range, or a Realme C3 if you wanna get cheap (around USD 150). Both are available brand new, they have similar processor performance, large screens, good battery life etc. The Poco M3's camera is much better than the Realme C3's, but thats the price you have to pay to reduce the cost. Both Poco's and Realme's software sucks in my opinion, but you're going to use a custom ROM anyways, so that won't be an issue for you. Android 12 is available through custom ROMs for both phones, and they have plenty of support on XDA.
Hi @PhotonIce thanks for your recommendations. Both, the Xiaomi Poco M3 and the Realme C3, are 6,5" and exceed my 5.2" - 5.5" size range. I've used a Nokia 6.2 for half a year last year, so I'll see in the next few months how it'll smaller sibling will perform. My needs are rather low, with Navigation apps (Magic Earth, TomTom) setting the top bar for performance (no gaming or such). At this point I can leave making pixel-sharp photos of UFOs to others ..
Oops, sorry my bad, thought it said 6.2-6.5inch range
Though in that range, I'd still highly recommend the Mi Note 3 (if you can get it). It has a much better SoC, a 12mp camera with OIS and a 12mp telephoto, and a 16mp selfie camera.
indeed nice the Xiaomi Mi Note 3, and even with official and latest LineageOS support. Good to know
[EDIT] not available in Central Europe - closest region here to order from would be UK. Only close sibling available here would be the Xiaomi Mi A1 (Mi 5X).
The mi a1 isnt as impressive, I guess it's best if you keep your nokia
Also the Xiaomi Mi Note 3 doesn't have a headphone jack.
RootedLee said:
Also the Xiaomi Mi Note 3 doesn't have a headphone jack.
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True, but you didn't mention that in your list of requirements, so you can't really blame me for that.
oh @PhotonIce don't feel blamed at all - I was just stating the missing jack as a fact. I 100% appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us here

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