SSD vs. normal hard drive speeds - Battlestations

I am about to upgrade my hard drive and never tried before an SSD, so what members recommend on this?
Does it worth to move to an SSD? as I understand they're much more expensive than traditional ones.
Any suggestion is kindly appreciated

What are you hoping to achieve, obviously you can see the cost difference, but unless you've used them the speed difference may be harder to describe.
I have HD on my home PC, boot time and system start up is where I see the most difference.
SSD start up time is much faster. So you may be able to get an SSD for the system partition only, run your OS from the SSD and some key programs, then use HD for storage.
If cost is not a factor then you could go all out and get a higher capacity SSD and run everything from it

orb_selektor said:
I am about to upgrade my hard drive and never tried before an SSD, so what members recommend on this?
Does it worth to move to an SSD? as I understand they're much more expensive than traditional ones.
Any suggestion is kindly appreciated
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I'm using SSD's since 2013 and still using the Samsung SSD 840 120GB from that time together with another Samsung SSD 850 Evo + 2 M.2:
- Corsair Force MP510 240 GB, SSD NvME M.2
- Samsung MZ-V7E1T0BW 970 EVO 1 TB NVMe M.2
With the limited access time of HDD's and the limited speed compared to the very low prices of solid state drives you can't go wrong in any way except the storage, or GB per $/€/¥ which is still higher than HDD's.
But since you can get cheap SATAIII SSD's for 30 bucks or even M.2 ones for simply system partition hosting, you benefit in that way a lot and have a fast system experience

orb_selektor said:
I am about to upgrade my hard drive and never tried before an SSD, so what members recommend on this?
Does it worth to move to an SSD? as I understand they're much more expensive than traditional ones.
Any suggestion is kindly appreciated
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Just make sure the interface is compatible. Older PCs may not be. Had that issue with a SATA hybrid hdd.
A SSD for the OS drive and a hdd as a data drive should work well.

andrewmurray86 said:
What are you hoping to achieve, obviously you can see the cost difference, but unless you've used them the speed difference may be harder to describe.
I have HD on my home PC, boot time and system start up is where I see the most difference.
SSD start up time is much faster. So you may be able to get an SSD for the system partition only, run your OS from the SSD and some key programs, then use HD for storage.
If cost is not a factor then you could go all out and get a higher capacity SSD and run everything from it
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Thanks for the advice mate, cost is an issue now, will consider your idea here.
Cheers
strongst said:
I'm using SSD's since 2013 and still using the Samsung SSD 840 120GB from that time together with another Samsung SSD 850 Evo + 2 M.2:
- Corsair Force MP510 240 GB, SSD NvME M.2
- Samsung MZ-V7E1T0BW 970 EVO 1 TB NVMe M.2
With the limited access time of HDD's and the limited speed compared to the very low prices of solid state drives you can't go wrong in any way except the storage, or GB per $/€/¥ which is still higher than HDD's.
But since you can get cheap SATAIII SSD's for 30 bucks or even M.2 ones for simply system partition hosting, you benefit in that way a lot and have a fast system experience
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So SSD it is!, thanks buddy, will check those ones for cheaper investment for now.
Gracias!
blackhawk said:
Just make sure the interface is compatible. Older PCs may not be. Had that issue with a SATA hybrid hdd.
A SSD for the OS drive and a hdd as a data drive should work well.
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Luckily not my case but good to consider!
Thanks

andrewmurray86 said:
What are you hoping to achieve, obviously you can see the cost difference, but unless you've used them the speed difference may be harder to describe.
I have HD on my home PC, boot time and system start up is where I see the most difference.
SSD start up time is much faster. So you may be able to get an SSD for the system partition only, run your OS from the SSD and some key programs, then use HD for storage.
If cost is not a factor then you could go all out and get a higher capacity SSD and run everything from it
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That's what I do. OS, Browsers and Games are o the SSD. Everything else is installed on my D: Drive

orb_selektor said:
I am about to upgrade my hard drive and never tried before an SSD, so what members recommend on this?
Does it worth to move to an SSD? as I understand they're much more expensive than traditional ones.
Any suggestion is kindly appreciated
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SSD is an absolute game changer. Going from HDD (even a fast 10k RPM one in RAID) to an SSD makes everything dramatically faster...even if you're just using a lot of Chrome etc. I'm using an NVMe drive, which is even faster than traditional SSD.

svetius said:
SSD is an absolute game changer. Going from HDD (even a fast 10k RPM one in RAID) to an SSD makes everything dramatically faster...even if you're just using a lot of Chrome etc. I'm using an NVMe drive, which is even faster than traditional SSD.
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Be fun to setup 2 or 3 in RAID 0

orb_selektor said:
I am about to upgrade my hard drive and never tried before an SSD, so what members recommend on this?
Does it worth to move to an SSD? as I understand they're much more expensive than traditional ones.
Any suggestion is kindly appreciated
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i put SSD's in all my computers a bit ago and havent looked back. Only thing better is the M.2 stuff, and not all hardware supports it. SSD all the way

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Shift dissasembly and SSD installation.

I am having thoughts of installing a ssd drive inside htc shift. Is this possible? Has anybody tried it or dissasembly htc shift?
Thanks,
Lefteris
i dont know that im brave enuf to kill my warranty. If the drives are the same size and same power consumption and have the same mounting points then it should be easy.
That's a lot of ifs...
And if you look in Vista at the Experience index, you can see that the HD is fast enough
Okay, SSD is always a lot faster.
I forgot the big if,
IF you can afford one the proper size
If someone has very large juevos they could crack their shift open and take some pictures!!!
doh, daniel u should of done that before replacing it!!!!!
There are internal pics of the Shift on the FCC site.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...omFrame=N&application_id=542917&fcc_id='NM8CL'
good to know we can upgrade the harddrive very easily then
and the ram oh goody 2 gig chip
Those are very easy upgrades, does anyone know the part #s for the existing items?
We need a ghost of a prestine box, make sure one of the senior guys when they get their box to ghost is right away.
Well one thing for sure an extra gigabyte of ram would help.
But is does seems we need a very specific module to replace the RAM.
Any ideas where to buy such a module?
According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
rpawly said:
According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
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I had some trouble opening the link but now it seems to work.
The problems I see is that Qimonda is a producer of RAM chips, not a retailer/seller of modules.
And second they only list 1GB sets.
Third, where can we get our paws on a 2GB module?
Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
rpawly said:
Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
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Can you tell me where you found that 2GB DDR2 MicroDimm?
Ok that is a lot about RAM but how about a SSD?
I believe the BIOS should support 2 gigs. I asked the folks at HTC about this and they didn't indicate any issues beyond the challenge of opening the device and the fact that it does void the warranty.
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473;c:36376;r:prisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
premier69 said:
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473%3bc:36376%3brrisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
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The MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF1 is an 8mm drive (height), so no, it won't fit. You want the MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 which is 5mm in height.
Google told me that
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208242&page=303&highlight=2510p
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomy B.
I did some research and find out that there is two versions of Mtron Mobi 3000 1.8" 32GB with ZIF.
Does anyone know is there any difference between MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF1 and MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2, except thickness (first one is 8 mm, second 5 mm) and price.
Is there some reason for MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2 to be cheap?
If someone can recommend any 2.5" SSD with 44-pin IDE or 1.8" with ZIF just let me know. 32 GB is just enough. I had Samsung 1.8" with 50-pin IDE, but it was 16 GB (around 15GB actually), so 50-pin IDE will work too.
The only difference betweem the ZIF1 and ZIF2 is the height. The ZIF2 (5mm) is being produced for regular orders by Mtron, so you will find this easily available (http://rocketdisk.com/index.php?cPath=15) but the ZIF1 (8mm) is only being produced for OEMs and other special situations.
There is no reason for it to be so cheap, other than good value
The performance is really awesome & as you have probably seen on notebookreview.com there are lots of happy customers!! ---- end quote
rpawly said:
i dont know that im brave enuf to kill my warranty. If the drives are the same size and same power consumption and have the same mounting points then it should be easy.
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背面有8颗螺丝,键盘下面有一颗螺丝 ,一共9颗 在电池接口处出力压下,键盘会跳出来,看我的拆机图http://picasaweb.google.com/netcnn/Netck
btw: I buyed yesterday a MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 within Ebay. We will see how fast it is. But I think this is the fastest ATA-7 1,8" HDD on Market. Mtron announced a 64 and 128GB Version as well a few months ago, but I never see anything like this.. :-(

Big News ! Shift get naked ! RAM upgrade will be possible and SSD should be fine!

I have come across this link, someone has open up Shift completely, it's in chinese so i will summarize his finding, it seems like there is hope on SSD upgrade, space is enough, 1.8 inch hard drive size. RAM upgrade seems to be possible until the 2G ram is in production. He mentions the sliding mechanism can be improve if open up the Shift, but he didn't mention how.
Let me know if you want more info about that post, and go ahead and check out the photo at this link :
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
it could be possible to desolder the ram chips and replace them with higher capacity ones. I believe that the shift can take 2gb of ram without any other modifications. The problem is finding those chips and a service center able to perform such tasks.
lol where is olipro..... he loves to do these kinds of things
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
wu5262 said:
I have come across this link, someone has open up Shift completely, it's in chinese so i will summarize his finding, it seems like there is hope on SSD upgrade, space is enough, 1.8 inch hard drive size. RAM upgrade seems not possible seems it uses a strange pin. He mentions the sliding mechanism can be improve if open up the Shift, but he didn't mention how.
Let me know if you want more info about that post, and go ahead and check out the photo at this link :
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224&last=5479384
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Wu5262 dont suppose he acknowledges that indeed there is a GPS aerial in place?
After i opened up my shift i can confirm the GPS antenna is there !!
pusler said:
After i opened up my shift i can confirm the GPS antenna is there !!
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Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat! oh but hold on which market was your shift for?
It's for Europe !!
pusler said:
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
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I had a look into this and seems like you are right, i have now correct the post.
Thanks
pusler said:
I have taken my shift apart, and there isn't more space for the drive than the one that is mounted, so only the 1,8" 5mm low profile drives will fit, as far as I know the biggest is 40GB atm.
I can't see what is wrong with the connector for the ram it's a standard microdimm connector for ulv devices as you can se here Kingston makes them !! and my source tells me that a 2GB module is in preproduction.
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Can't wait for 2 GB ram on this device bet it would make a good bit of difference but I think the biggest difference would be seen with an SSD.
From the hard drive model in the picture here is the link to the drive:
http://www.toshibastorage.com/main....inchHardDiskDrives/MK4009GAL/MK4009GALSupport
It does confirm it is a 40gb 5mm high drive with a 90mm side connector and yes it looks like for toshiba at least 40gb is the biggest for 5mm height. Does anyone know of an SSD that is the right size and connector?
PDF of the drive specs
http://www.toshibastorage.com/techdocs/MK4009GALTechnicalNotes-RevA.pdf
Do you know If gps will be accesible from vista side? I ve fallen in love with sygic pc version. Winmo version is nice but we know we havent 3d drivers for ati hardware. Pc version is running very smoothly in vista. It looks a video game...........
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
landshark said:
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
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Now that looks nice can't see anywhere who sell it though
landshark said:
So, the Toshy drive is 5mm x 54mm x 71mm...any reason why this wouldn't work?
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
or this
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/ssd/pdf/18_datasheet.pdf
I'm guessing it'll cost a pretty penny (or pound, lira, euro, etc.) to get 64GB SSD running on the Shift, but man....
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Maybe the reason is the connector doesn't fit?
I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard that the Shift has a special connector..
danielherrero said:
Do you know If gps will be accesible from vista side? I ve fallen in love with sygic pc version. Winmo version is nice but we know we havent 3d drivers for ati hardware. Pc version is running very smoothly in vista. It looks a video game...........
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When the guys get the GPS to work, it SHOULD be possible to share it through the USB tool connection so that VISTA can use it.
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
HDD
The Dell Tablet uses a ribbon type drive. Their is a diffrent connector but anyone is willing to adventure I bet you can take the hard drive side of the ribbon cable off and swap them.
sandrobber said:
The Dell Tablet uses a ribbon type drive. Their is a diffrent connector but anyone is willing to adventure I bet you can take the hard drive side of the ribbon cable off and swap them.
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That's what I've done with the 64GB SSD from my Dell XT Tablet.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403626
here is the type of the drive and the specification.
Interesting News
Has anyone approached HTC about creating an official RAM upgrade that does not void warranty?
Could maybe HTC authorize certain companies in different regions of the world to perform the upgrade.
For example, PPC Techs does iPaq memory upgrades, not with HP's blessing, but they have shown expertise.
The reason I suggest having HTC bless this type of upgrade is 2 fold:
they have the resources to properly test and create a aftermarket kit
they may be shamed into doing something with some sort of subsidized cost to Shift owners since clearly having the combination of processor, memory and OS can never work efficinently since Vista was designed for higher processing power and more memory
This is just a suggestion, these devices can not cost $1000 to produce, HTC must have some serious profit in these puppies.
A side note on the SSD, based on my readings, the SSD drives use more battery power.
If there were to do any other updates, I would suggest making SD slot accessible to Snapview and enable Wifi on Snapview, maybe have an official liberation ROM as well for Snapview.
The additional memory on Vista side and better battery life (like Mugen bigger batteries for Shift) will make Shift almost perfect!!!
Dave32
I think the downfall of this device is the crappy CPU and VISTA...
even video encoding is crap
on my UX, I can watch Bluray rips in highest qualities, the Shift cant even handle DIVX well...
Backing up then Upgrading ... !!
Hello Guys
I have the HTC Shift 9500 European model with SIM FREE.
I know nothing about backup... !! What is the best way to backup the entire HardDrive with its Hidden partition ??
In addition, Has anyone succeed to upgrade the memory from 1GB to be 2GB or even 4 GB ??
Another question... Is there any successful HardDrive to SSD Drive upgrade ??
Kindly specify me the model numbers .. and from where to buy ...
Please reply as soon as possible...
Regards
Luis

Nvidia Shield TV 16GB vs 500GB performance comparison

Hi all, so I've purchased the Nvidia Shield Pro (500GB) model the other day and noticed the device made some slight disk spinning noise, only to realize that this console comes with an HDD rather than flash memory. I also noticed that even thought this device is still running lollipop, I'm still able to utilize any one of the external ports as the default memory.
This question is mainly for those of you who had the opportunity to try both models. I'm not a fan of HDDs much, but the voluminous internal storage is convenient in a way, although I could easily do without it, if the 16gb is the more stable model. From my experience NAND flash based devices seem to run fast, but are they noticeably faster than their hybrid HDD counterparts? Is there any difference in speed and performance between the 16gb and the 500gb Shield TV devices? I'm asking because I noticed the Shield controller's home and back buttons don't always respond, and my device is running build v2.1 which supposedly fixed any known controller bugs. I'm tempted to return the 500gb and grab a 16gb just for the sole fact that the Pro model runs on dated hard disk technology, not to mention the faulty HDD units in some of these models. Let's hear some opinions on this, I've not found any comparison on these from a performance perspective. Every comparison I found so far brags about how advantageous 500gb is over 16gb, but no one seems to compare their performance side by side. So if you've tried out both variants, do you find the standard 16gb edition to process data quicker than the Pro model, and are you experiencing any unresponsiveness with the back and home buttons on shield's controller?
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Just ordered a 16gb Shield TV Console from GameStop. Since no one's chiming in on the topic, I'll have both versions in a few days and will post my findings after testing them side by side.
I did a little research and from what I understand the only real difference between them is the internal storage. Performance speeds are the same and it support external hard drives and SD cards. I know music, pictures, games, ect. can be stored on the SD card but can apps be stored to or is a root required. Either way I plan on getting the 16GB version and using this 128GB SD I have and rooting it and seeing how it goes. If it's what I think it's like, then this may be one of the greatest things to run the Android OS.
Hello some news ?
To me I went for 16gb version as it would be flash memory so much quicker and no mechanical drives which equal less heat and less fan spooling.
Also the fact that they recalled the 500gb version and we're withdrawn from nvidia site.
Let us know your findings.
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I did a little research and from what I understand the only real difference between them is the internal storage. Performance speeds are the same and it support external hard drives and SD cards. I know music, pictures, games, ect. can be stored on the SD card but can apps be stored to or is a root required. Either way I plan on getting the 16GB version and using this 128GB SD I have and rooting it and seeing how it goes. If it's what I think it's like, then this may be one of the greatest things to run the Android OS.
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Apps can be stored on the SD card without root access. Keep in mind that the developer of the app must allow for this so there a few apps out there that will only install on internal storage, though I have yet to come across one.
Hey everyone, sorry it took me a month to post back, now that I've owned a 500gb for two weeks and a 16gb for a month, I've noticed a few slight differences. The 500gb was a tiny bit noisier as it utilizes an HDD alongside a nandflash for its internal storage. The HDD disk spins even while the device is in sleep mode, which is normal behavior with HDDs from what I gather. I'm just not a fan of having more moving parts in a device than necessary. Also, software updates and initial installation takes much longer on the 500gb model, probably due to slower write speeds on HDD. WiFi disconnecting bug after waking up from sleep mode on lollipop 5.1.1 seemed more persistent on the 500gb model as well. The only other difference I noticed was with fluidity, the 16gb doesn't seem to have much hiccups/stutters, where as on the 500gb (maybe mine was one of the defective units) it wouldn't respond right away after returning to home screen or in some apps the back and home buttons wouldn't register on first press more often then not (dolphin emulator being one of them). Once I set up the 16gb model, I haven't experienced any such issues, the back and home functions work every time in any app perfectly fine.
From what I can tell, the 500gb model was somewhat of a last minute decision as it feels less refined than the 16gb model. It's also not as great for modding as there seems to be less dev support for it. 500gb model may be a good choice for someone not looking to tweak this device, but rather for simple plug and play without much thinking involved. For all the mods and tweaks, custom ROMs, the 16gb seems to be the more popular choice. It's also the more refined and tested variant in my opinion.
Syndrome666 said:
Hey everyone, sorry it took me a month to post back, now that I've owned a 500gb for two weeks and a 16gb for a month, I've noticed a few slight differences. The 500gb was a tiny bit noisier as it utilizes an HDD alongside a nandflash for its internal storage. The HDD disk spins even while the device is in sleep mode, which is normal behavior with HDDs from what I gather. I'm just not a fan of having more moving parts in a device than necessary. Also, software updates and initial installation takes much longer on the 500gb model, probably due to slower write speeds on HDD. WiFi disconnecting bug after waking up from sleep mode on lollipop 5.1.1 seemed more persistent on the 500gb model as well. The only other difference I noticed was with fluidity, the 16gb doesn't seem to have much hiccups/stutters, where as on the 500gb (maybe mine was one of the defective units) it wouldn't respond right away after returning to home screen or in some apps the back and home buttons wouldn't register on first press more often then not (dolphin emulator being one of them). Once I set up the 16gb model, I haven't experienced any such issues, the back and home functions work every time in any app perfectly fine.
From what I can tell, the 500gb model was somewhat of a last minute decision as it feels less refined than the 16gb model. It's also not as great for modding as there seems to be less dev support for it. 500gb model may be a good choice for someone not looking to tweak this device, but rather for simple plug and play without much thinking involved. For all the mods and tweaks, custom ROMs, the 16gb seems to be the more popular choice. It's also the more refined and tested variant in my opinion.
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Yeah I am kinda thinking I would've been better off grabbing the 16 gig model and adding a 128GB sd card. Does anyone know what kind of HD they use on it?
I bought both - one for general living room tv use (16gb) and the 500gb for myself to put in my man cave and play games on. I couldn't wait to set the 500gb up for myself as I had already got the living room one working and I was absolutely gob smacked at what it could do - however - upon setting it up and filling it full of emulation stuff, I found it to be really disappointing. HOWEVER, upon further investigation, I discovered that if you have an external HD attatched to it - in my case a USB 3 2tb one - it dragged like hell, probably due to the fact that the HD is full of emulation artwork etc. Unplugging it seemed to solve the problem and now i'm back up to full speed (more or less) again.
Anyone else think its strange that Nvidia chose to go with completely different designs for both types? Surely it would have been easier, and more cost effective, to just leave the hdd port unoccupied on the 16gb version, so a hdd/ssd could be added at a later date. And £70 just for a 500gb hybrid drive? It certainly seems a bit on the steep side.
I would like to know how much of a difference a SSD would bring to the Pro version compared to the SSHD it has inside, if it's worth it when using it for Plex only
The SATV and the SATV Pro boards are the same with the Pro version having connectors added for the SSHD. The SSHD can be replaced with an SSD, but in my experiences I do not recommend the swap. The SSHD draws .74ma and a 500GB Samsung evo SSD draws 1.5A. I noticed strange behavior of the USB ports (perhaps from current starvation). I guess if one wanted to dive into the power circuit to see if the balance of the components would handle replacing the voltage regulator with a high output current replacement, then with a beefer regulator I would be on board with the ssd swap.
If you are after what the box is meant for the buy a SATV. If you are after dev, then buy a SATV PRO.
The SSHD can be added to the SATV buy soldering on a SATA connector and modifying the device tree....
From what I've read, the Pro model just isn't worth it. Everything runs off the hard drive, including the system ROM, so it is definitely slower. For the $100 difference you could buy a 2 TB external HDD instead and still keep your apps on the internal flash.
Mogster2K said:
From what I've read, the Pro model just isn't worth it. Everything runs off the hard drive, including the system ROM, so it is definitely slower. For the $100 difference you could buy a 2 TB external HDD instead and still keep your apps on the internal flash.
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With Plex Server, is the 16GB version still worth it? I indirectly heard that the Plex Server quickly fills up the 16GB data of onboard memory, and cannot be used on an external USB 3.0 drive. Is this correct?
Can we also plug in a USB 3.0 SSD drive to the Shield, and have the system ROM and all apps run from the USB 3.0 SSD drive, leaving the 16GB onboard memory empty? If the answer is yes, then it's a nobrainer to use a regular Shield rather than a Shield Pro.
I can't answer the first question (I run Plex on a PC, not the Shield) but for the second: there is a method but it's a little tricky. I'm using it now with an old SSD.
http://www.videomap.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1580&start=410#p3628
Be sure to format the SSD on your PC and not the Shield or it won't work.

Building A Killer, State-Of-The-Art ATX-E Z590 Full Tower...

I have all but the video card. I refuse to pay $900 for a $450 card! I'll use onboard video or my GTX-1070 from my X-99 system for the time being.
As for storage, in addition to the (2) Seagate FireCuda PCIe 4.0 NvMe M.2's, I already have over 60 TB in SATA6 SSD's and Hard Drives.
What do you guys think of my custom build choices?
HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
I have all but the video card. I refuse to pay $900 for a $450 card! I'll use onboard video or my GTX-1070 from my X-99 system for the time being.
As for storage, in addition to the (2) Seagate FireCuda PCIe 4.0 NvMe M.2's, I already have over 60 TB in SATA6 SSD's and Hard Drives.
What do you guys think of my custom build choices?
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Maybe you can tell us the purpose of the system though it seems not to be a gaming system?
strongst said:
Maybe you can tell us the purpose of the system though it seems not to be a gaming system?
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NOT a gaming system? Seriously? Please tell me what game if any, won't play at FULL MAX on this system?
It's an ALL purpose KILLER PC.
HelloG3_MotoNoMore said:
NOT a gaming system? Seriously? Please tell me what game if any, won't play at FULL MAX on this system?
It's an ALL purpose KILLER PC.
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I don't know what your monitor setup, resolutions and FPS settings should look like, but with a RTX3060 this PC won't be able to play all games on FULL MAX(But that also depend on the games). Also depending on the number of drives, the PSU might be driven to the limit.
strongst said:
I don't know what your monitor setup, resolutions and FPS settings should look like, but with a RTX3060 this PC won't be able to play all games on FULL MAX(But that also depend on the games). Also depending on the number of drives, the PSU might be sdriven to the limit.
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I have 2 Sceptre C34's and a 78" Sammy QHD Curved. As for drives, there won't be more than a 750W PSU can handle without breathing hard. Most of the storage will be Thunderbolt 4 connected and externally powered.
As for the RTX-3060, as I said, it's not purchased because of the current chip shortage and resulting price-gouging. I'll likely buy a far more potent RTX when they're plentiful and cheap.
Damn man. All you need is another processor and you can build 2 fast machines out of all those parts. But seriously I'm waiting like you to upgrade video. Reminds me of the RAM shortage in the late '90s.
pdnorman said:
Damn man. All you need is another processor and you can build 2 fast machines out of all those parts. But seriously I'm waiting like you to upgrade video. Reminds me of the RAM shortage in the late '90s.
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LOL. I have a complete X79 system, a complete X99 system, skipped the waste of time X299 and now building this Z590 and 90% of what I do is web surf on Win 10 / Waterfox.

WHICH TYPE OF SSD IS THE FASTEST FOR GAMING LAPTOP?

I am Yamaris Johnson. I am using a gaming laptop [https://www.lenovo.com/fr/fr/d/gaming]. I want to purchase a new SSD for my gaming laptop. I was using HDD storage, but my laptop was getting slow and heating up also. So, I thought I should take another one.
To provide some background,
When considering storage for my laptop, I need to consider a lot of factors, not just the amount of storage the drive has. When I choose the type of SSD for my device, I need to consider the speed, readability, noise, and power usage.
Solid-state drives (SSDs) are the most common storage drives today.
SSDs are smaller and faster than hard disc drives (HDDs).
SSDs are noiseless and allow PCs to be thinner and more lightweight.
Hard disc drives (HDDs) are more common in older devices.
If you primarily use your PC for web browsing and light work, you may not need as much storage space.
If you work with large videos or files, you may want more storage.
If you use OneDrive or another cloud storage service for photos and files, you may need less storage on your device.
If anyone has any suggestions, please share them.
Thank you for your time.
yamarisjohnson said:
I am Yamaris Johnson. I am using a gaming laptop [https://www.lenovo.com/fr/fr/d/gaming]. I want to purchase a new SSD for my gaming laptop. I was using HDD storage, but my laptop was getting slow and heating up also. So, I thought I should take another one.
To provide some background,
When considering storage for my laptop, I need to consider a lot of factors, not just the amount of storage the drive has. When I choose the type of SSD for my device, I need to consider the speed, readability, noise, and power usage.
Solid-state drives (SSDs) are the most common storage drives today.
SSDs are smaller and faster than hard disc drives (HDDs).
SSDs are noiseless and allow PCs to be thinner and more lightweight.
Hard disc drives (HDDs) are more common in older devices.
If you primarily use your PC for web browsing and light work, you may not need as much storage space.
If you work with large videos or files, you may want more storage.
If you use OneDrive or another cloud storage service for photos and files, you may need less storage on your device.
If anyone has any suggestions, please share them.
Thank you for your time.
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Maybe Seagate FireCuda
When it comes to gaming laptops, the fastest type of SSD is the NVMe (Non-Volatile Memory Express) SSD. This type of SSD uses the PCIe interface and has faster read and write speeds compared to SATA SSDs, which use the SATA interface. NVMe SSDs can provide faster boot times, faster game loading times, and improved overall system performance. However, it's worth noting that the difference in speed may not be noticeable in all gaming scenarios, and other factors such as the CPU and GPU may also impact gaming performance.
Actually I'm using a NVME compatible with my Dell G5 5590
It's the evergreen Samsung 980 Pro, it shines as the first day even after more than a year.
No need to buy a new SSD that costs the same and I cannot use the full speed
When it comes to choosing an SSD for gaming laptops, the fastest type of SSD is the NVMe (Non-Volatile Memory Express) SSD. NVMe SSDs typically have faster read and write speeds compared to traditional SATA (Serial Advanced Technology Attachment) SSDs, which can result in faster boot times, faster game loading times, and overall improved system performance.
NVMe SSDs use the PCIe (Peripheral Component Interconnect Express) interface, which provides faster data transfer rates than the SATA interface used by traditional SSDs. NVMe SSDs also have a higher number of input/output operations per second (IOPS) than SATA SSDs, which means they can handle more simultaneous data requests and provide faster access to data.
So, if you're looking for the fastest SSD for your gaming laptop, I would recommend looking for an NVMe SSD with a high read and write speed, as this will provide the best overall performance for gaming and other demanding tasks.

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