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Hey guys. So I just received my new smart watch today and I'm loving it! Wanted to start a thread about it asking if any of you have it so for. It's a pretty new watch and in the coming days hopefully I'll be posting some pics and vids.

qasimala said:
Hey guys. So I just received my new smart watch today and I'm loving it! Wanted to start a thread about it asking if any of you have it so for. It's a pretty new watch and in the coming days hopefully I'll be posting some pics and vids.
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Got one of these a few weeks ago and so far:
Runs like a dream, considering it's size
Will run all the apps I have installed on it so far.
Will not let me put an SDcard in that is 32GB or 16GB will only work with the bundled 8GB card. So I assume this might be formatted differently (have not checked)
Cannot get GPS to work! Perhaps it is not using a standard "western GPS chip"?
Camera is ok, but no zoom and you have to put your wrist down otherwise you take a picture of your hand.
MAJOR ISSUE ! Battery Power ! Says it can work for 24 hours with light use. Ha Ha Ha Ha what a load of BS. Lucky if you get 7 - 8 hours out of the battery with 3G working (Skype and FB apps running in the background, no GPS on, no BT on and no WIFI on)
That is about it so far if anyone has any other info I would be glad to read, because there is didly squat online about this watch/phone

More details.
http://des.everbuying.net/uploads/2015/201506/heditor/201506151339263138.jpg
Fashion Genuine Leather Watchband FIFINE W9 3G Smart Watch Phone Android 4.4 MTK6572 Dual Core 1.0GHz 1GB RAM 8GB ROM Bluetooth Living Waterproof Snapphire Glass Screen 5.0MP Camera Aluminum Stainless Steel Cover
Main Features:
OS:Android 4.4
CPU: MTK6572 Dual Core 1.0GHz
RAM+ROM: 1GB RAM + 8GB ROM (with 8GB TF card)
Bluetooth version: Bluetooth 4.0
Display: 240 x 240pixels
Camera: 5.0MP
Support MP3/MP4/GPS/WiFi/3G Function
Compatibility：Compatible with Android smart phones
Network:
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G WCDMA: 2100MHz
What you get with your package.
Cell Phone: 1
Battery: 1 x 600mAh
Charger: 1
USB Cable: 1
An extra screen protector
Cleaning cloth
I was pleasently surprised to find an 8GB SD card already there. That plus the 8GB built in storage (4.88GB of which is usable) leaves you with enough storage for your apps and music. Videos too if you're interested in watching on a teeni tiiny screen. It has a certain buzz to it. Lol. Also, it had a screen protector on it.
Another awesome feature that I found was that it has a BT notification app so you can sync it with your watch to receive notifications on it from your phone and basically use it as android wear which is what some imacwear users are dying for.

OK so I might have been quick to "diss" the battery power. Today the W9 has been going for 14 hour 26 mins so far I don't know if this is to do with the fact that the battery needed to "bed down" or because of the fact that I turned the back light to it's minimum setting? Well it is back to a middle setting so we will see what happens And is currently sat at 55% ..... we shall see.
Anyway more info :
The touch display, I would say, misses 5% of my "touching" but I do have problems with my moto g and it's touch screen, so I would say it will probably work for most people 100%.
What has surprised me, is that using a keyboard half the size of a postage stamp with a little finger which fills about 1/4 of the screen is quite accurate! Type the wrong letter, hit delete and then move the little finger to the right or left a millimetre or so and you have the right letter. Although typing like that takes ages. Solution ! Download the google keyboard and download your language of choice "offline version" and use speech to type, seems to work very well apart from the dual core chip working in overtime to keep up.
Back in a few days or hours with some more updates Just got GPS to get working!

OK the battery problem is not due to wifi lol.
If you charge the battery while the phone is on it does not charge properly, or does not charge enough, don't know which?
If you charge the battery in the off state while it "flickers" on and off the animated battery icon, it seems to charge the battery completely(?)
Charged the watch yesterday afternoon, while on and got 6 hours out of watch before it switched off. Charged it last night while in the "off state" and it has currently been running for 14 hours!
So if you want to get a full charge from your watch battery charge it while shutdown

Where to buy and how much
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Where to buy and how much
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http : / / www . everbuying . net / china-fifine-w9.html
(Of cause without the spaces)
Cost £92.62 on website, but after paying through paypal this turned to £95.98 approx and took around 2 weeks to get here

Can it work in the US. What's that in us currency
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Interesting info!
That's some interesting info on the battery life. Personally I leave the wifi and data connection off so at the end of the day I still have about 60 % battery remaining. I have managed to get the phone rooted and am looking to explore further. I bought the product at everbuying.com for $140. Compared to all the other smart watches this is the best bang for the buck because of the 1 GB ram and 8 GB ROM at such a low price. If you want I can do a video review of it and post it up.
I did install google keyboard and I love the gesture typing but for some reason I can't get the voice input to work. When I go to settings there isn't even an option for voice input in languages and input. I do have the mike button on my keyboard however its not working for some reason. when I click on it nothing happens.

My problem with the battery life is that it may be saying 82% and next minute the battery is dead! If I charge it when switched off I assume the electronics charge the battery but when switched on I assume the software takes over, a does not charge it fully?
Right the reason what you are getting no speech input (recognition) is that you have to be connected online via 3g. The alternative is to download the "offline" voice data.
Settings > Personal > Language & input > Google voice typing > offline speech recognition
When you use this offline it is a little slower (you get the feeling the dual core chip is working it's ass off) but it does work !
Would be interested to know what you used to root the unit?
Also would like to know if you have got the GPS working? (I still have had no luck getting this to work)
Oh and the reason I bought it was for GPS and the 1 GB ram. You try running any apps in 512Mb lol

Haha. True. I had the imacwear m7 and it would get laggy at times. I haven't tested the GPS yet but I wanna download offline maps for it like sygic or here maps.
Also, I dont have a "google voice typong " option in language and input.
I used kingoroot to root it and it was done in less then 5 mins.
I have 2 questions. 1. Have you got any lockscreen watch faces to work other then the stock ones? I have tried watchmaker but its not really good. Also, is there a way to leave the backlight on permanently? I realise that will kill my battery in a few hours but I just think it will be cool for the watch to show at all times.
2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.

First, GPS finally got it working
It would probably have worked out of the box but could have taken 15 mins or more to do a satellite lock.
How to fix :
http : / / www . chinasmartphonereview . com / fix-gps-problems/
(With out spaces)
I now start to get a lock in around 10 seconds for the first sat and around 30 seconds for 5 when outside.
Inside forget it! Through a window forget it!
Now I have a satnav on my wrist
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qasimala said:
1. Have you got any lockscreen watch faces to work other then the stock ones?
2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.
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1) Sorry no but I assume you would have to root the device before being able to do this? And I don't want to do that yet. Plus I like the one that looks like an old digital watch
2) No I have not tried the btremind app, as I wanted the watch to be an independent comms device. Have you had a look through the watch storage (as yours is rooted) and spotted anything there?

Hello:
¿Is this Fifone W9 good to use only as a smartphone?
Many thanks.

OldGavi said:
Hello:
¿Is this Fifone W9 good to use only as a smartphone?
Many thanks.
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I would say yes with a few limitations......
1) Screen is small but everything I have "thrown" at it so far works. Firefox,Mx player,Skype, Advance task manager, Navigator (Free), Facebook App, Google translate (Offline), Google voice search, speech recog (offline a little slow) GPS tools etc etc
2) Typing on the screen is "doable" but slow, get yourself a mini Bluetooth keyboard and you are away....
3) Battery! Battery is the only problem. Mine seems to have a mind of its own. Charge it one day and it will last over 24 hours, charge it another day and it lasts 6 hours????? Still not worked this one out but finding more and more about this device every day.
4) You do look like **** Tracy when using the phone, look him up on youtube if you don't know what I am on about.
Hope that helps
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qasimala said:
2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.
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Qasimala if you go into the BTreminder app on the watch, it tells you in the help to look for an app on the play store called WatchAssistant.apk Still have not tried this yet.
Oh rooted with Kingo no problem thanks

Ju_ excuse my bad English . I 'm writing from Spain .
Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer.
I would use this watch sporadically , to do some hands-free calls , receive and answer some whatsapp , and some e- mails.
Not too much.
Do you think I can use this watch for these operations?
Thank you very much and apologize for any inconvenience

how to connect this watch
I bought this watch for its feature set and elegant design. I found the identical watch from a number of different vendors at widely varying prices. No one offered any real support and the specified companion reminder program does not exist. I have tried every bluetooth reminder app on playstore and have found only two that actually work. It seems that the software in this watch is actually from unova. One clue is that the help program is from unova. The playstore unova ironman bt reminder program works with this watch when installed on my s4. The only other program I could make work is swapapp when installed on both the phone and watch. I still have a few issues with the watch, but overall, its a fine piece of hardware. I'm looking forward to learning from other user expieriences.

Using this watch just basically would get you through the day I believe if you keep it on 2g and keep the GPS off. I really love this thing and would recommend it to one and all.

Thanks so much for telling me how to connect the watch to the phone. I tried unova and it does work.
I keep trying to push this watch's limits. I played angry birds go racing on it without a hitch. Gonna try NFS most wanted next

OldGavi said:
Ju_ excuse my bad English . I 'm writing from Spain .
Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer.
I would use this watch sporadically , to do some hands-free calls , receive and answer some whatsapp , and some e- mails.
Not too much.
Do you think I can use this watch for these operations?
Thank you very much and apologize for any inconvenience
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Your English is better than mine and I am from England lol
You will not have any problem doing what you want above. Also you probably would not need a BT Headset as speech to the watch is good and sound from the watch is a good volume, you might just have to turn the CD player down
If you want to know how well the watch performs read the comment by qasimala Need for speed on a watch lol !!!! Let me know how it goes qasimala

This watch continues to surprise me! Need for speed is working super smooth! I'll upload a video when I'm near a WiFi hotspot sometime. I use the watch for a few things mainly. I record lessons in class, listen to music on an earpiece which I bought together with the watch, I use it for working out (installed the madbarz app and it works like a wonder), I take the occasional picture or video without anyone noticing and whenever I'm bored and don't have access to my phone, I play games on it. Just got the idea to install here maps on it. I think it'll be really good because it gives you turn by turn directions offline which will probably increase the battery life on navigation quite a bit. Will let you guys know how it works out.

Hands on/First Impressions?

Has anybody done a hands on video for the standard Phab 2. I am thinking about ordering it, but I would like to see it in action and hear what people think about it. There is not much out there yet about this one as it is being overshadowed by the Tango phone. Thanks for any info guys.

I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...

So I went ahead and made the purchase too. My phone dialer would never pull up and would immediately force close even after reboots. I just downloaded a 3rd party dialer app and that works just fine. Today, the other bug hit me. My wife called and she could not hear me. I tried speaker phone and even hung up and called her back, but the microphone was not recognizing me during the call. This is an irritating bug, but it seems like it is just software. I also have an issue with turning the wifi on. If it is off, my phone will immediately turn it back off each time after I try to turn it on. The only way I can find to make it work is to turn it on directly after a reboot and then just leave it on. The only bug that is a big deal to me is the phone call issue. If that does not reoccur often, I can deal with the other issues since the phone was such a reasonable price.
couldnthinkaone said:
I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...
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couldnthinkaone said:
I have had mine for a few days and had lots of trouble so far. Not to say it is a bad phone, just hoping I received a bad one. Waiting on Lenovo to ship a replacement now.
'Timely'(clock/alarm) app doesn't work at all(force closes on opening) but it is most likely an issue with the app itself.
The Phone/Dialer app was buggy as well. It was showing all contacts on the contact page of the app, but search feature on contact page and T9 input on the dialing screen wouldn't bring up any information(just a blank screen) making me have to go into the contact screen and scroll down to whoever I wanted to get in touch with just to make a call. Then, the microphone wouldn't work when using the phone as a handset(hold up to head like a regular phone) but would work fine for Google("Okay Google") searches (or if connected to Bluetooth). A full, hard-reboot seems to have fixed the Phone/Dialer issues but it was annoying for a couple days.
It has a horrible WiFi(WLAN) battery drain issue as well. It has used as much battery as the screen has with the SOT of almost 3.5 hours. I mean, over 50% battery life left with 3.5hrs of SOT is not terrible, but I wonder how much better it could be...
The plastic back/case make noises intermittently(squeaky plastic-on-plastic noise) that is pretty annoying as well.
Hopefully the replacement phone will be better, if not, I'll return it and pay the difference for either the Plus or the Pro.
Gotta love that 14 day return policy...
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I just bought Lenovo Phab2. So far so good. No issues. Pretty smooth. You just got unlucky and got the bad one. I am trying root but cannot find any info.

Unfortunately my replacement device seems to have the same issues the original did in regards to the Phone App. No contact loading. I wiped and installed my Google account every different way I could think of(7-8 times...) but no luck. Sorry Lenovo, like I said, I really wanted to like this phone, but I feel there are a lot of kinks that need to be worked out. Good luck to those of you with the fortitude to rock this beast, but I'm out. Sent it back yesterday for a refund and ordered an Axon 7 that I'll be picking up later today.
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archaleus said:
So I went ahead and made the purchase too. My phone dialer would never pull up and would immediately force close even after reboots. I just downloaded a 3rd party dialer app and that works just fine. Today, the other bug hit me. My wife called and she could not hear me. I tried speaker phone and even hung up and called her back, but the microphone was not recognizing me during the call. This is an irritating bug, but it seems like it is just software. I also have an issue with turning the wifi on. If it is off, my phone will immediately turn it back off each time after I try to turn it on. The only way I can find to make it work is to turn it on directly after a reboot and then just leave it on. The only bug that is a big deal to me is the phone call issue. If that does not reoccur often, I can deal with the other issues since the phone was such a reasonable price.
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I know it's a pain, but I would try a hard reboot/wipe. That's the only thing that worked for mine(the original anyway) as far as the mic goes. Hopefully you have better luck than I did.

Check, Check, 1, 2, 1,2 - Mic issue - Otherwise pretty good phone
I have mine since 12/6 (just under a week).
Likes: Big Screen. Quality screen. I'm coming from a 1080P display and it's a 720P, but I have to say, it's bright, colors are good. Very clear. Good for consuming media and as a remote terminal (for Citrix/RDS). 32 GB of internal storage. Reasonably responsive. Not much of a gamer.
Dis-Likes: Microphone disconnecting. Camera. Teflon-like slickness of case. MicroSD Card caddy - cannot read my card.
OK, after long, obsessive deliberation on my next new phone, I ended up with this phone. It was a long and winding road to end up a place I didn't expect to be. I was originally intent on purchasing the Zenfone 3 Ultra. But since the fine folks at Asus, didn't want to a put a radio on this model that would get 4G/LTE speeds (in the U.S.) AND being that I use my phone for hotspot and pay for the data bandwidth, I wanted the ability to realize that bandwidth when hotspotted in on a notebook. So, I decide on the Phab2 Pro, but purchasing through the portal seemed like "unavailable", "ships in 5 weeks", "ships in 3 weeks" etc......So, around Thanksgiving, as I'm checking in on the Pro, I see that the Phab 2 is available for $30 bucks off the pretty low $200. I think to myself "What if I'm only in love w/ the idea of a big phone and not the reality of a big phone?". My phone prior was the Moto X Pure (great value, love the phone) 5.7" display. Pretty big, but not this big. So, I figure, a buck 70? why not? If I don't like it, it can be a tablet/lifeboat for the next keg-tub diving non-waterproof phone incident where I need an emergency phone. Again, it can be a tablet on my sofa console.
So, I purchase it. It comes. The first thing I noticed was the slipperiness of the phone. It's a big phone, that I thought I'd be able to single hand (I'm 6'3" w/ ham hands, not-petite). I cannot. At the fear of breaking a new (though reasonably priced) toy, I heir on the side of cautious and I operate w/ both. So, I figure, I'll just "OK Google" dial and use earpods. I quickly find out (believe) that "OK Google" exacerbates a microphone issue. Not sure if the process being spawned has enough rights, holds on to the application, causes a memory leak, or what. But if you "OK Google" dial, it will (*may*) lead to the mic becoming unresponsive and playing the "I can't hear you game". I will be the first to admit that phones are phones anymore. They are computers that you can also make and receive phone calls from *BUT* the phone functionality is still a pretty necessary element of these handheld computers. So, hopefully Lenovo will get this sorted out in Nougat, or maybe they paid short shrift to bug squashing on Marshmallow knowing they were quickly going to Nougat. But the mic issue definitely not great.
I did some testing and found that I could reliabley place calls 10 times in a row (mic connected) manually, then 10 w/ google while it was unlocked, then 9 out of 10 w/ google dialing while phone was locked.
I followed this up w/ 40 manual dials where the mic was always connected. I was pretty sure the mic issue was related to OK Google (voice command), but then I let it sit overnight (last night), and found that w/o any OK Google, the mic disconnected on the phone. (That's why I'm thinking maybe memory leak, as OK Google might exacerbate the problem, not cause it). Reboot fixes this; but they need to get this squared away or it could create some negative buzz around an otherwise pretty nice little (ok, big) value phone.

Ok hello from India!!!! Got this phone today, screen is bright but in sunlight okkish,,call quality great,touch fabulous,slow dt2w,net wlan speed great,gets attentions, software can b better , lag sometimes or freezes very slightly, while commuting not handy cause size.

First Impressions...
I dropped my Xiaomi Note (5.7in), spider-webs appeared = I **HAD-TO** get a new phone. I decided to try a larger size. Impressed by the 3Gig RAM, the size, the capacity for expandable memory, the FM radio, the price, I bought the Phab2. The shop did not have a cover for this device, they advised me to go online. sigh... (that's how the spider-webs appeared in the first place... no cover!!!
The size takes some getting used to. Fits in my pockets ok. Camera = ok. Colors = ok. Calling and SMS = ok. Music reproduction = ok.
I. am. satisfied.
I have the Phab 2 (NOT the Phab 2 Plus - NOT the Phab 2 Pro) - bought in Prague, CZ.
-I had a problem to make GROUPS in my contact list. Android automatically added my contacts from my laptop Google Contact List. New folks that I added later to the phone could not be put into the newly created Group-List. What gives?
-A somewhat similar problem showed up when I attempted to make a Group-List of widgets / programs. Every morning when I switch on the phone, I have to re-organize the widgets & programs into groups AGAIN.
Is this a systemic problem? Am I doing the processes incorrectly? Can we add this to the list of known bugs?
LeePa

Love the phone, but can not get phone to work on voLTE. Anyone?

working 4 me but model is pb 650 m
works on 650 m model

sushil888 said:
works on 650 m model
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Yeah mine is PB2-650Y

sushil888 said:
works on 650 m model
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How did you set voLTE on 650m. Mine switches backs to 3G when I make calls?

settings
Nothing special.
Settings
Mobile networks.
ENHANCED networks.
Just enabled it.thats it

see
See got update 1.4 gb approx

Got update today,,,
Now volte iß fixed , whichwas disappeared in previous update

Does this support OTG? and is it upgradable to android nougat?

Otg = yes.
Nought = no

My Journey from Note 4 to Mate 9 Thread

As you will notice from my signature, I had tried a move to a LG V20, but I came back to the Note 4. So, I'm tracking my attempt to have a happiness with the Mate 9. Putting my notes and info here.
I'm in U.S., and so have North America version. Received it this afternoon, and have had a SIM card set up in it.
I'll document as I go for my results on setup. Not starting off great:
Restoring Data
Phone Clone
Tried this first. On the Mate 9, all I could get was the spinning hour glass (or whatever it's called). Would never come up with the QR code that is needed to mate to the old phone.
So I moved to...
Hisuite
So, I installed Hisuite on my laptop. Below are instructions followed with results:
Instlal Hisuite on Laptop - Success
Plug Huawei device to the computer, and touch restore data in Hisuite. ... Well, first thing I was wondering was how was the laptop to be able to ge the data from teh old phone? So, I proceeded
So my device is found, as the PC came up with a box to select how to use the device. But I see no option to restore data. I noticed a note at the bottom that it will not connect if charging only for usb is selected. So the instructions say...
Touch Settings - success
Then touch Security and Privacy ... There is no Security and Privacy specifically to touch, but there is a category called Security and Privacy, and a Security option to touch. But, I did find the Security option, and clicked it and found the option to allow Hisuite.
So, now, having done all that, I see the phone connected. But I see absolutely no way to get my data: messages, phone log, etc from my oldphone to the new one.
Pretty unimpressed at this point.
Tried Phone Clone again. Nothing.
If anyone has any suggestions...it's appreciated.

I managed to get my SMS and call logs by using SMS Backup and Restore. Had to move files around via dropbox.
Observations
I'm finding that as I run apps, the common pop-up about needing rights often freezes and I need to go into Settings/Apps and assign priviledges. Not sure if this is a common issue for others or not.
Phone, of course, is performing well.
Screen resolution is fine for me
Fingerprint reader is very fast. I had come to really like the finger print reader on the back while using the V20. I'm having to get used to it not also being the power button.
I am finding that various things that fill the page and are white hides the on-screen buttons. I don't recall that as an issue when I was trying out the V20.
The email app is going to take some getting used to. I am very used to the Samsung email app, which I liked better than Gmail.

Stick with it. This phones menus and ways of doing certain actions is different than Sammy or LG. But I really like that. Once u use it for a bit. You'll love it!!!
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Stick with it. This phones menus and ways of doing certain actions is different than Sammy or LG. But I really like that. Once u use it for a bit. You'll love it!!!
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I plan to. Liking it so far...but...
The GPS is getting zero satellites. Not working. I do have high accuracy turned on (Use GPS and Wifi). Loaded GPS Test, and no sats visible.
Another issue with first drive...when the screen goes off, intermittently it shuts down Pandora. I checked the Battery Optimizations to make sure Pandora is NOT set to close when screen is off, and it is not.
I'm on hold now with B&H Photo. I'm guessing I'll be exchanging it. PITA...but I'll l give one more a try.
Obesrvations (other than above issues)
Battery is looking like it will be great
I like that the icon in the noti bar shows what AP I'm hooked to
Volume is very good. Sound is OK (better for sure than Note 4)
I'd like to have dark notifications. Haven't checked to see if ther is a way to do that yet.
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I just checked. I was on FW 138. There is an update to 183. I'm downloading it now. If GPS still doesn't work, my next task is to call Huawei support...then if no good, exchange.

ewingr said:
I plan to. Liking it so far...but...
The GPS is getting zero satellites. Not working. I do have high accuracy turned on (Use GPS and Wifi). Loaded GPS Test, and no sats visible.
Download GPS Status from play store, set it up, reboot, and see if that helps
Another issue with first drive...when the screen goes off, intermittently it shuts down Pandora. I checked the Battery Optimizations to make sure Pandora is NOT set to close when screen is off, and it is not.
I'd uninstall, and re install Pandora; doesnt happen for me
I'm on hold now with B&H Photo. I'm guessing I'll be exchanging it. PITA...but I'll l give one more a try.
Obesrvations (other than above issues)
Battery is looking like it will be great
I like that the icon in the noti bar shows what AP I'm hooked to
Volume is very good. Sound is OK (better for sure than Note 4)
I'd like to have dark notifications. Haven't checked to see if ther is a way to do that yet.
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I just checked. I was on FW 138. There is an update to 183. I'm downloading it now. If GPS still doesn't work, my next task is to call Huawei support...then if no good, exchange.
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Battery is awesome on my mate 9 pro; your should be too
There are lots of themes you can install to get your notifications dark; check the apps/themes thread

wase4711 said:
Battery is awesome on my mate 9 pro; your should be too
There are lots of themes you can install to get your notifications dark; check the apps/themes thread
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Battery right now:
30%
9 hr 33 min
4 hr 22 min​
Definitely better than my Note 4. Not sure it's up to what some claim. But I think I'm going to be happy with it.
Good news on GPS: the 183 update got the GPS to functioning. Haven't done much other than be sure it is working. Out of interest, soon I plan to do a walk and see how it goes. That type of GPS tracking is what most folks complain about re: the GPS.
Observations
Lightflow does not work with the LEDs on Huawai phones
I installed Light Manager, which works when I test LEDs from teh app,.I had quite a bit of trouble getting it to work, but it appears that just now I did. NOTE: it appears that if you do NOT have PULSE LED on, that the LED does not work at all.
Interesting: If Hold to Ear to Answer is on, and phone is face down on a table, and a call comes in...it does not ring. It answers. Not exactly what should be expected.

I tried Lightflow again, and it IS working now. I uninstalled and reinstalled.
Observation
I wish I had purchased a dark phone which would come with a dark bezel. The LED is very small and not very bright. Makes it almost impossible to see if anywhere near sunlight.
The Note 4 definitely outshines the Mate 9 with regard to three LED.

Well, my Lightflow is giving me problems. It's intermittent. I think the problem may be related to my having restored the configuration from my install on the Samsung. Intent was to get all the LED settings for the various apps. But I think some specific Samsung related settings came in.
The interesting thing is that I can uninstall, and delete anything in the SD card that has Lightflow in the name, but then the next install, the previously restored settings are there. So I need to find out how to get that out.
All that being said, the Light Manager app is working pretty good. Just not as many options.
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GPS is working well for driving. Still need to test it for a walk
For anyone on a Note 4: be aware that the Mate 9 has proprietary charging. That was something that contributed to keeping me away from the Oneplus 3t. But I overlooked it for the other pluses of this phone. I have read that Power Delivery chargers work better than QC, but not as good as the stock Huawei one. I have a PD on order for my car. We'll see
The issue where a pop up comes up for rights needed is a PITA. It often locks up the app, and I have to go into Apps/Permissions and grant them there.
So far each BT device I have added is working well. (Problems with BT was the straw that made me pull the plug on the V20)
Had screen on for quite a while with GPS app. Phone did run just a bit warm. In fact, it seemed to be warm for quite a while after turning off the GPS software and browsing through a store
Current feeling about the move to the Mate 9 from the Note 4
I'm feeling very positive. I think the 4K battery will be a real plus. If I can just get a full day out of it I'll be happy. I think it is hopeful for that.
Performance is very good.
Size is perfect. Almost identical to my Note 4, 1/4" taller. I am able to use the Spigen holster from the Note 4. However I need to get a case that has at least hard edges so it will slide through the clip w/o pushing the case back.
Loving the fingerprint scanner on the back.
I hope this thread is helpful for someone.

ewingr said:
Well, my Lightflow is giving me problems. It's intermittent. I think the problem may be related to my having restored the configuration from my install on the Samsung. Intent was to get all the LED settings for the various apps. But I think some specific Samsung related settings came in.
The interesting thing is that I can uninstall, and delete anything in the SD card that has Lightflow in the name, but then the next install, the previously restored settings are there. So I need to find out how to get that out.
All that being said, the Light Manager app is working pretty good. Just not as many options.
Today's Observations
GPS is working well for driving. Still need to test it for a walk
For anyone on a Note 4: be aware that the Mate 9 has proprietary charging. That was something that contributed to keeping me away from the Oneplus 3t. But I overlooked it for the other pluses of this phone. I have read that Power Delivery chargers work better than QC, but not as good as the stock Huawei one. I have a PD on order for my car. We'll see
The issue where a pop up comes up for rights needed is a PITA. It often locks up the app, and I have to go into Apps/Permissions and grant them there.
So far each BT device I have added is working well. (Problems with BT was the straw that made me pull the plug on the V20)
Had screen on for quite a while with GPS app. Phone did run just a bit warm. In fact, it seemed to be warm for quite a while after turning off the GPS software and browsing through a store
Current feeling about the move to the Mate 9 from the Note 4
I'm feeling very positive. I think the 4K battery will be a real plus. If I can just get a full day out of it I'll be happy. I think it is hopeful for that.
Performance is very good.
Size is perfect. Almost identical to my Note 4, 1/4" taller. I am able to use the Spigen holster from the Note 4. However I need to get a case that has at least hard edges so it will slide through the clip w/o pushing the case back.
Loving the fingerprint scanner on the back.
I hope this thread is helpful for someone.
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Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. I'm taking the trip from Note 4 myself. I would love to see how quickly the Power Delivery charges your phone vs QC 3, seems like an interesting new charging technology.

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Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. I'm taking the trip from Note 4 myself. I would love to see how quickly the Power Delivery charges your phone vs QC 3, seems like an interesting new charging technology.
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I'll be sure to post results.

I did the same change, Note4 > Mate 9.
I did however managed to get my phone cloned via the tap & send thing, I got it all on my new phone.

It's been a couple interesting days.
I got the 2 Led apps working: Lightflow, and Light Manager. A fresh install of Lightflow, with NOT restoring my previous configuration worked for it, so I stayed with it.
But the next day neither would work. WTF! I messed with it for a while, and could not get it working. I found another app, LED Pro, and it is on it's second day of working.
Then this morning my daughter called my wife and told her she had called me twice, and the phone answered but I wasn'on theh line...she could here the TV. Here's my thread about figuring out that problem.
Ready to declare success...keeping the phone
I am really enjoying the phone. albeit with expected new phone type learning curve to go through.
PROS
Very fast
Screen size very close to same as Note 4...1/4" taller
While I would liked to have 6GB of memory, the 4GB seems to be fine. Every time I've checked, I've had over 1GB free. Right now, I have 1.86GB free.
Some really nice features: Loving the instantlly responsive finger print reader on the back...fits just. right for my hand
Slide finger down the FP reader to bring down the notifications. Slide up on it to close.
Camera features are nice
Sound with stereo speakers better (but of course not like using headphones)
Charging is fast, but so is Note 4
Larger battery, at 4000, is lasting me well
Con
Proprietary charger
Small Led. I would recommend getting a phone that has a black bezel rather than white so that there will be more contrast between the light and bezel. I have a white bezel, and it makes that small, dim, LED hard to see
Some apps may not be compatible. Specifically LED related apps
There may be more pros and cons, but that's the list i can think of now. Others may chime in if they think of more.
So, maybe some day I will root, and I will add to this post of how rooting goes compared to Samsung. For now, I'm holding of of rooting.

Yep !!
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Hi,
I'm just here in the reading of your journey.
Made the same choice, I was waiting for Note 7 ...
No problem for me for backing up my old files, I made the back up on my PC.
I wanted to discover, and still discovering EMUI 5 et Nougat.
Having my Mate for 3 days !
I will tell you my journey too, pros and cons ...

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Hi,
I'm just here in the reading of your journey.
Made the same choice, I was waiting for Note 7 ...
No problem for me for backing up my old files, I made the back up on my PC.
I wanted to discover, and still discovering EMUI 5 et Nougat.
Having my Mate for 3 days !
I will tell you my journey too, pros and cons ...
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Sounds good. I have found more interesting things, likely can'at think of them all.
But one neat feature is this: When phone screen is off. there is a setting in the camera where you can double click the down volume and it will open and take a picture. Pretty cool.
Battery is lasting all day with no need to top off, and providing 5 hours SOT.
BT has been working good on everything I hook it to.
GPS is working good for driving and walking tracking.

check for firmware updat b190.... ( usa )
i also came from the note 4. leds drove me nuts. i now use an app called led blinker pro which puts a led(dot) right on the screen. it works great and is set in different colors for different apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ledblinker.pro

Thanks for pointing out the update.
I am using LEDBlinker Pro. Only led so I could get to work consistently on this phone.
So far I haven't the screen fur the notification yet.

Anther great feature...
This past week I found something happening in this phone that I had wished would happen on my Note 4: the WiFi will connect automatically to the stronger point. For example, when in the rear area of my house it will hook to the access point in my wife's scrapbooking room. If I get up and go to the office in the front of the house, it will disconnect from the one in the back and connect to the one in the office. Really nice. This is known in the settings as WiFi+.

Another Note 4 devotee who's moved to the Mate 9 - I'm in Australia and I've had the phone for 3 days.

Keep us posted on how it goes. Particularly the things that stand out.

I'm on the mate 9, had it four months, Chinese version, 6gb, 128gb, ufs 2.1 (fast ram, not the slower stuff that some have) running international ROM C636. Battery life is absolutely stellar however the camera IS a let down. Low light mode is better than the note 4 hands down but the Note does hold its own for video and day mode shots (superior fur video no question, especially 4K). Panoramic mode is mediocre. The camera for me is hit and miss, the one thing I dislike about the phone and the poor video stability.
I've been back to my note 4 a few times and will likely get the 7 when it's re-released next month but know the battery life will be an issue.
Mate 9 is a great phone that's let down by a camera that promises so much but fails to match the likes of the S7. If that's not important to you then you will love the mate.

Switched from Huawei Watch 2 to LGWS - connections failing, battery abysmal (xpost)

Sorry for the crosspost - hoped I can get more eyes here...
Searched and searched so posting here and will try in general thread in case it's not tied to the watch itself.
Background: IOS user for phone, have to - developer, had Apple Watch (hated it). Got myself a Huawei Watch 2 on a deal and loved everything about it except the useless bezel and tiny screen size. Seeing as I had a great experience, I started a hunt for an LGWS. Hunt because not a single store sold one and I'm in Chicago with LOTS of stores. So online we go. There too - few resellers. Finally found one. New. Manufacture date of May 2017.
The Watch 2 worked flawlessly as functions go. Sycn'd, stayed connected, battery life of full use (all functions on - obviously no LTE), brightness at 8, raise to view on, always on display on... end of the day going to bed around 10:30 still had 50% of battery left at worst! The only issue other than cosmetic that it had was WIFI would not connect so "automatically" so to speak. So when I sent a watchmaker face, I always had to go to settings, connectivity, wifi and wait until the SSID showed connected. Then all is fine. Transferred over and enjoyed.
So the LGWS shows up. I unpair the Watch 2, connect up the LGWS and love it. The display I expected, size is great for me and off to the races. Within an hour it went from 95% to 60%. I figured - setup blues. Ignore it. Let it fully bake and see what happens. Another hour later I'm at 30%... ok onto the charger we go. Did a full charge at 6pm, by 9pm it was flat.
LGWS background: GW 2.8 loaded, Watch 2 was still running 2.0. LGWS - cellular off, raise to view on, display brightness 4, wifi connected...
But here's what I noticed: on my phone, it consistently says disconnected - tap card to connect. I tried that about 20 times, no joy. Rebooted watch and phone... no joy. Reset watch, deleted app on phone and deleted Bluetooth pairing. Re-installed Wear app, re-paired watch, left all at stock settings except shut-off cellular and OK Google listening.
That last bit is the 6-9pm going totally flat.
So. Any ideas here? Things I see - 8 vs 2 OS... obviously IOS (I get it, but why did the Huawei work so well?) and there is nothing I can do about that. Don't know if I can downgrade to 2 to see if that makes a difference... if I do, will it self-update back to 8 when it gets a chance?
I really want to keep this watch - it's exactly what I wanted (short of strap change capability). I sure hope Google doesn't give up on Wear. As a Mac/IOS dev, I can easily say this is a superior platform for the user. Truly great stuff and I want it to improve and keep improving. The iWatch bigots are really missing out!
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Cheers!
P.S. One thing I cannot do on IOS AW app is see battery usage by app. Sadly if I paired up to my old Galaxy S5 test phone, I suspect the problems may go away as it would be a first pairing of a watch to that phone plus it's not the same as the use environment.

wig said:
Sorry for the crosspost - hoped I can get more eyes here...
Searched and searched so posting here and will try in general thread in case it's not tied to the watch itself.
Background: IOS user for phone, have to - developer, had Apple Watch (hated it). Got myself a Huawei Watch 2 on a deal and loved everything about it except the useless bezel and tiny screen size. Seeing as I had a great experience, I started a hunt for an LGWS. Hunt because not a single store sold one and I'm in Chicago with LOTS of stores. So online we go. There too - few resellers. Finally found one. New. Manufacture date of May 2017.
The Watch 2 worked flawlessly as functions go. Sycn'd, stayed connected, battery life of full use (all functions on - obviously no LTE), brightness at 8, raise to view on, always on display on... end of the day going to bed around 10:30 still had 50% of battery left at worst! The only issue other than cosmetic that it had was WIFI would not connect so "automatically" so to speak. So when I sent a watchmaker face, I always had to go to settings, connectivity, wifi and wait until the SSID showed connected. Then all is fine. Transferred over and enjoyed.
So the LGWS shows up. I unpair the Watch 2, connect up the LGWS and love it. The display I expected, size is great for me and off to the races. Within an hour it went from 95% to 60%. I figured - setup blues. Ignore it. Let it fully bake and see what happens. Another hour later I'm at 30%... ok onto the charger we go. Did a full charge at 6pm, by 9pm it was flat.
LGWS background: GW 2.8 loaded, Watch 2 was still running 2.0. LGWS - cellular off, raise to view on, display brightness 4, wifi connected...
But here's what I noticed: on my phone, it consistently says disconnected - tap card to connect. I tried that about 20 times, no joy. Rebooted watch and phone... no joy. Reset watch, deleted app on phone and deleted Bluetooth pairing. Re-installed Wear app, re-paired watch, left all at stock settings except shut-off cellular and OK Google listening.
That last bit is the 6-9pm going totally flat.
So. Any ideas here? Things I see - 8 vs 2 OS... obviously IOS (I get it, but why did the Huawei work so well?) and there is nothing I can do about that. Don't know if I can downgrade to 2 to see if that makes a difference... if I do, will it self-update back to 8 when it gets a chance?
I really want to keep this watch - it's exactly what I wanted (short of strap change capability). I sure hope Google doesn't give up on Wear. As a Mac/IOS dev, I can easily say this is a superior platform for the user. Truly great stuff and I want it to improve and keep improving. The iWatch bigots are really missing out!
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Cheers!
P.S. One thing I cannot do on IOS AW app is see battery usage by app. Sadly if I paired up to my old Galaxy S5 test phone, I suspect the problems may go away as it would be a first pairing of a watch to that phone plus it's not the same as the use environment.
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Man, as I was reading this I was like.. is this guy a mind reader.. I swear to you I have the exact same issues, and the same reason for switching from Apple watch Series 3 to Android Wear (watches should be round darnit).. I almost bought the HW2 classic and for the same reason (smaller screen, giant bezel, etc.) bought the LGWS.. I sure hope someone has some advice for both of us recent converts!

Day 2... full delete of app IOS, reboot phone. Full restore of watch. Remove from bluetooth pairings. Start over from scratch.
left it mostly stock... only OK Google and Cellular turned off (no sim in there anyhow, but to be safe since technically all phones are supposed to allow 911 calls regardless of sim status)... in that stock vanilla flavor - battery held up all day. Ended the day with about 30%. WIFI was not linked to any network, so just Bluetooth to my phone. All worked great.
Day two of grand experiment.. added WIFI set to auto on. Loaded the main app I really want, Watchmaker. five hours of use 44% of battery gone - roughly 8ish percent per hour. Not terrible, but compared to vanilla. MUCH worse. Will keep playing. The mix is in there somewhere.
The shocker is that the HW2 has a slightly smaller battery (10mAh smaller) but also a MUCH smaller face. That would account for it.

I had exactly the opposite experiences with the Huawei and LGWS. I tried out a Huawei watch 2 classic for about a week, and I had TERRIBLE battery life. Like, fully charged to DEAD in 12 hours. The LG lasted me 18 - 25+ hours (the lesser on workout days). I had all connections turned off except Bluetooth, although I turned on GPS on the LG and didn't notice any battery life change. I had assistant on, fit with everything on, always on, basically most of the apps and such.
Unfortunately, it seems like the battery life you get depends on the watch, and what you have on with AW. With LTE and WiFi on, I'm sure I would have been charging the LG once at least during the day.

fossil Gen 5

Am I missing something here or was everything about this launch misleading
I picked up the Gen 5 today. Google assistant does not talk to me. Only shows results on screen. And the battery modes are no where to be found.
I had a software update when I finished loading everything and no difference.
What am I missing??

I got one as well. Assistant talks to me just like it is supposed to. Do you have the speaker enabled under settings (swipe down from main screen)? Same with battery modes... they are right there next to the speaker icon when you swipe down. Icon is of a battery with a plus in the middle. Great watch so far, absolutely love it!

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I got one as well. Assistant talks to me just like it is supposed to. Do you have the speaker enabled under settings (swipe down from main screen)? Same with battery modes... they are right there next to the speaker icon when you swipe down. Icon is of a battery with a plus in the middle. Great watch so far, absolutely love it!
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Which one is the speaker. Are you talk about the sound icon. That's for notifications, is it not?
I ended up finding the battery modes
Regardless. The battery life has been horrendous for me.
On my Gen 4 I would end my day from 630am till 8pm and have 60% left.
My Gen 5. I started at 8 ended at 630pm and had 10%

The speaker icon is essentially all sounds or mute AFAIK. Also I second that the battery is terrible. Started the day at 06:00, been in high power save and died at about 13:30! Seriously hope they can address this in the next update

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The speaker icon is essentially all sounds or mute AFAIK. Also I second that the battery is terrible. Started the day at 06:00, been in high power save and died at about 13:30! Seriously hope they can address this in the next update
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Ya that is on and nothing from assistant. Only shows results on the screen. Does not talk back to me. So something is going on

I just got the new gen 5 watch for few days, I have issue on phone calls using the watch. While call in or pick up the call have too much chopping and distortion. I tried reboot the watch once and it work normal but after that it came back. Any pone have this issue? Or is only my watch is faulty?

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I just got the new gen 5 watch for few days, I have issue on phone calls using the watch. While call in or pick up the call have too much chopping and distortion. I tried reboot the watch once and it work normal but after that it came back. Any pone have this issue? Or is only my watch is faulty?
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Have the same issue. With both of them I had
I think it's a software issue and needs an update. Hopefully fossil is quick to address.

Imo
They did a piss poor job of this launch.
Software has major issues and bugs are running rampant. Speaker call issues. Battery life issues. Assistant not talking back to you. Battery modes hidden and not in settings.
There are some serious issues they need to resolve and fast

offline music app
I want to download music and play it offline since we have the storage - can anyone recommend the best music app for Wear OS for this purpose? TIA

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I want to download music and play it offline since we have the storage - can anyone recommend the best music app for Wear OS for this purpose? TIA
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I wanted to look for it too, since spotify is still not able to offline listen music from watch.

Got the Gen 5 too. Pretty poor battery life.
Anybody know other than putting the watch everytime to "DND" or "Silent" how to avoid the charging sound when plugged and unplugged? I don't mind if somebody know the value in System / Global or Secure and write it via ADB.
P.s.: First Fossil, pretty poor watch (unstable). Same here, speaker glitch when talking, Google assistant talks when he wants and awful battery life. My Lemfo China watch was better...
Thank's

In order for the assistant to work properly, I had to set the language to English US. This needed to be done on the phone's setting and the on the google assistant settings through the wear OS app. For some reason setting it to English Australia cripples the assistant. Not an ideal fix, since it switches all apps on my phone and watch to imperial instead of metric. I have contacted support. It may be that you're seeing the same issue with Canada?
In terms of the speaker for calls, there is a known issue with the choppy sound and requiring a reboot to fix. They said they're working on a fix and will be rolling out a software fix soon.
As for the battery life. The different modes trade off functionality for slightly extended battery life. The battery life is not great, but I can stretch it to a full day. It took some time for it to settle down though after all the software updates and syncing of apps. It was terrible on day one and two.

Ciao I will try asking here as well since this is a Fossil Gen 5 specific thread.
The ok google detection is on.
if I keep pressed the centre button the Google assistant is launched on the watch and I can talk to the watch to give commands.
If I say "ok google" to the watch the assistant is launched on the phone and not on the watch, so I have to talk to the phone while I'd like talk to the watch.

Brightness issue??
I'm planing to buy the watch, but there are many reports that brightness of the watch is too low even compared to gen 4 or older Moto 360 or Huawei watch 1. Is it really the case,??
Can that be fixed from software side??
Also they have not specified display glass quality.. I mean gorilla,,sapphire..? ....
Can anyone help in clarifying
Thanks

I like the new Generation sure the battery life in custom mode with everything on maybe a bit worse than Generation 4 but at the end of the day I get easy 30% .... fooling around with it a bit more too because it is new.
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I'm planing to buy the watch, but there are many reports that brightness of the watch is too low even compared to gen 4 or older Moto 360 or Huawei watch 1. Is it really the case,??
Can that be fixed from software side??
Also they have not specified display glass quality.. I mean gorilla,,sapphire..? ....
Can anyone help in clarifying
Thanks
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Never been that happy but when I wake the watch so far I always have been able to read it.
"Kind of the trade of the brighter the display the worse the battery life"
Glass not sure ? Never has a problem or scratches with the Generation 4

Different story for me, it's my hmmm 9th or 10th smartwatch, the Gen5 for me is a disappointment. The quality is not just there for now. MAYBE if they fix the bugs but other than putting the speaker to off, you can't quiet the watch when finishing charging. Also, the speaker distort a lot and waiting for a firmware update so for now, it's being returned to Fossil. Will wait for the Vivoactive 4s, the upcoming Diesel that might have a newer firmware and maybe the Galaxy Watch 2.

Really I must have got the one working watch.
I pull the watch out the charger at 7am and at 11pm I still have 70%....
Always on display, I turned off nothing including NFC, WiFi, GPS, bluetooth
My way of thinking is if it is not connected it is not working.
I read people can not find the battery modes ?
Swipe from the top down, what do you think the battery icon is for ?
Just for kicks I may one day see just how long I can make the battery last....
The watch is extremely fast and responsive.
For me there is no other choices, Galaxy Watch .... no apps, no Google Pay.
If you are not using a Samsung Device ??
The Fossil Generation 4 I guess is not bad, no speaker...... but most people in this thread are complaining about the speaker anyway. However I do agree above all the speaker can use some work.

for everyone who is facing google assistant issue i also had similar issues that GA doens't use to talk to me but then i came to know that you need to change the language of your mobile follow this
settings -> system -> languages & input -> languages and add English(UK) or English(US) to the list and keep it on first.
and the one which will be on first should be the language set in your watch as well. the reboot your watch and voila you can talk and get response from GA
hope this fixes your issue.
and with the calling issue and speaker issue its a major wear os bug on july 2019 patch. we will have to wait for new patch to be launched.
Have a good one

Wear Media for Wear OS
able to upload music to my Gen 5 but noticed a considerable lag when accessing the app on the watch. It takes a while for all the albums to show up and then it takes 15 seconds sometimes to have the first song of an album to show up, which is necessary to start playing. Anyone have a similar experience?

Guys, is it possible to sideload apps to gen 5?