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Hello
I've received this watch two weeks ago from Hong Kong
I open this thread to share my impressions with other users of this smartwatch.
1st impressions:
- contruction: material are very good. it's not easy to insert sim card
- update: i've installed one OTA update on 24/07, no changelog provided
- wifi: ok
- battery: not good, 1/2 day with normal use (bluetooth, gps on, sync off, automatic screen on shake off)
- apps: the apps like play store are not fitted to the round screen so it's really hard to use it
- runtastic: not compatible
- apps from play store : can't use some installed apps (after install are not listed in launcher)
- health functions: heart rate seems to be inaccurate. it's impossible to have a continuos monitoring with preinstalled app.
- calls: no problem, voice is clear with speakerphone. mic is ok.
- OK Google functions: really hard to set-up because of round screen. OK Google detection works (only with open app? maybe for some lost set-up)
- root: from settings menu you can unlock bootloader
phone app: sometimes my phone (oneplus one) can't connect to the paired watch. the app Sinwear is not the best...
TWRP port: here thanks to @cyrux75
TWRP installation instruction
and FINALLY... ROOT ACCESS thanks to @split52
1st custom ROM with TWRP and flash tooldowload here thanks to @split52
useful PIE app (better than system swype IMO) handy soft keys
stock rom with flash software
OTA from Zeblaze update 08/10/2016 TWRP flashable
new watchfaces for rooted watches
new modded rom 13-10-2016 thanks to @split52
I will constantly update this thread.
update: reply from Zeblaze support center

artyfarty said:
Hello
I've received this watch two weeks ago from Hong Kong
I open this thread to share my impressions with other users of this smartwatch.
1st impressions:
- contruction: material are very good. it's not easy to insert sim card
- update: i've installed one OTA update on 24/07, no changelog provided
- wifi: ok
- battery: not good, 1/2 day with normal use (bluetooth, gps on, sync off, automatic screen on shake off)
- apps: the apps like play store are not fitted to the round screen so it's really hard to use it
- runtastic: not compatible
- apps from play store : can't use some installed apps (after install are not listed in launcher)
- health functions: heart rate seems to be inaccurate. it's impossible to have a continuos monitoring with preinstalled app.
- calls: no problem, voice is clear with speakerphone. mic is ok.
- OK Google functions: really hard to set-up because of round screen. OK Google detection works (only with open app? maybe for some lost set-up)
- root: from settings menu you can unlock bootloader
phone app: sometimes my phone (oneplus one) can't connect to the paired watch. the app Sinwear is not the best...
So, other users are welcome to share his impression, apps, tips, etc. :good:
I will constantly update this thread.
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Hi,
i also have the bluetooth problem, it´s instable, and i try to work with smartwach app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ble.SmartWatch) but it won´t let me do bluetooth tethering, i´m not using SIM.
try to install S Health, but does not allows me, it asks for sim card, wich i not use.
Oscar

I bought the Lemfo Lem3 which seems to be exactly the same as the Blitz.
The biggest issue for me is the battery life.
Even with GPS, Bluetooth and WiFi turned off the battery last only about 7hrs. The specs stated 3hrs talk time, but the battery runs out after about 30min when making a phone call.
The battery life is a show stopper for me as I don't want to have to charge it several times throughout the day.

Yes, I confirm, bluetooth is not working good, can't receive notifications from phone and sinwear can't sinchronize watch data.

artyfarty said:
Yes, I confirm, bluetooth is not working good, can't receive notifications from phone and sinwear can't sinchronize watch data.
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Hi,
I also confirm, bluetooth disconnects every time.
I have an iphone 6, I have tried sinwear app for IOS and the first time when you pair the "blitz" with the app, I receive all notifications from notification center and I can receive call notifications, SMS, mail, ... but after, 1 hour, 2 hours the smartwatch loses the bluetooth connection.
Sometimes it loses also the language configuration and date/time.
I have tried also install other BT apps like LE or BLE and I have the same result.
"Bluetooth disconnects!!!"
In the specifications from smartwatch says that the ios is in development, maybe is the reason for notifications, but I think that the problem for the bluetooth is for all platforms.
I seems that they have a big problem with this.
The battery life if you put hand bright screen to off is better, for me all day.

Hi,
Hi,
I hesitate between several watches, Zeblaze Blitz, No1 D5+ and K9. The only one certified IP67 is the Zeblaze so I think this is my preference.
Can you tell me if it's Micro (as most of phones) or Nano Sim (as iPhone 5, 6,...) ?
Do you think it's possible (using GSM with the watch) to hangup and answer textos with the phone connected by bluetooth ? It's easier to use phone keyboard instead of the watch one.
Is it possible to spell the texto instead of using keyboard ?
Is it possible to download and install new watch faces ?
Many thanks
Sorry for my english...

nano sim
for bluetooth features, read previous posts, all users (me too) have problems with bluetooth.
watch faces: you can use only the installed ones (approx 20 watch faces)
spell the text: you can use "ok google features" to make calls, send sms and whatsapp without keyboard
ciao!
ancor said:
Hi,
Hi,
I hesitate between several watches, Zeblaze Blitz, No1 D5+ and K9. The only one certified IP67 is the Zeblaze so I think this is my preference.
Can you tell me if it's Micro (as most of phones) or Nano Sim (as iPhone 5, 6,...) ?
Do you think it's possible (using GSM with the watch) to hangup and answer textos with the phone connected by bluetooth ? It's easier to use phone keyboard instead of the watch one.
Is it possible to spell the texto instead of using keyboard ?
Is it possible to download and install new watch faces ?
Many thanks
Sorry for my english...
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Bluetooth is a problem on all these sinsoft launcher based watches I2, S99, Blitz, KW88 etc etc
Battery is also terrible on all except the I2 - if on the newer firmware - but this has phone-call related bugs.
Watch Faces are a no go until we get more info from the Manufacturer - it's coming in August most likely.....
They all use a nano sim.
PS: DO NOT TRY TO CROSS FLASH FIRMWARE ON THESE WATCHES - you will end up with a bricked watch.
They all have security checks built in to prevent this.

update: watch is on, battery at 64% --> watch shut down itself. plug in charger --> battery at 0%.
I am very happy about this watch.......................

i am so far ok with this.
yes battery wont last long. But usually i just use it for strava without 3G. battery seems to last long with that.
I think after root it should get better. Not sure how to do though
Any idea how to do backup?

artyfarty said:
update: watch is on, battery at 64% --> watch shut down itself. plug in charger --> battery at 0%.
I am very happy about this watch.......................
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Same problem here. It dies when it's supposed to have around 50-60% left. I'm going to RMA my watch and hopefully get refund. Trying to record when it happens at the moment. We'll see what happens I guess :crying:

After update my gesture clock is bugged (i think). No mater which face i put it will on gesture move show same one... Is this the case on your Blitz ? after ota update ?

donmarkon said:
After update my gesture clock is bugged (i think). No mater which face i put it will on gesture move show same one... Is this the case on your Blitz ? after ota update ?
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same here

apn settings is missing

Hi guys,
I am quite surprised with your bad experiences with this smartwatch because I am very pleased with my Zeblaze Blitz for now.
I have it since 2 weeks and am very satisfied with it. So I upvoted it
I use it as a companion with my phone and only use bluetooth with tethering to have internet on the watch. The bad part with tethering is that I have to activate my bluetooth as a modem on my phone each time I activate it and then go to bluetooth settings on the watch, find my phone and check "Internet access" to enable it. Doing this each time is quite frustrating...
Synchronization is done with the sinwear official app and I receive all notifications from my phone (mails, hangouts, sms/mms, phone call) without a problem.
I tested SWApp Link which works pretty well (new possibility to respond sms and hangouts directly from the watch AND to reject phone call with or without a message, respond did not work for me) and add new watchfaces but it drains the battery too fast for a full day use.
The only bluetooth deconnections I noticed are when I go too far from my phone and I need to resync the watch via sinwear on the phone when I am back but it took only a few secs.
My build is Z9-KY-V06, I made an update directly through the watch right after getting it from Z9-KY-V04 (I think it was a 4 at the end but I am not sure at 100%).
The battery lasts a little more than 2 working days, I power it up when I go to work and power it off shortly after coming back home so I will say it lasts around 25-28hours in my usage. I am actually at 15% on my third morning and will need to charge it not long after lunch.
I did'nt try yet its waterproof functionality but I will tell you if it's still working when drenched while running
Podometer is not that accurate (according to it I make some steps while just gesturing or typing on my keyboard while seated) but give a good idea of what you travelled.
I hope it will help you, do not hesitate if you have any question
PS : My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo.
PS2 : I tested Pokemon GO for my wife with GPS and wifi activated and it is working ! I cannot say more because I won't give her my new watch nor am I interested in that game, but if some of you guys are...

I'm have this smartwatch but brand Lemfo Lem3. i can't connect with Android Wear, can paired but can't connect stuck in updating screen, Any solve problems ? when i install Sinwear, i understan't but language in chinnese (mandarin), How i install Sinwear in english ? what this smartwatch add watch faces ? how ?
thanks and sorry with my english.

We cannot add new watchfaces for now but you can follow the community "Round Android Smartwatches- ROMs, Faces and FAQs" on Google+ (can't add links), if something new emerges it will be indicated there !
Did you flash the sinwear code directly from the watch ? I downloaded it that way on my phone and it was in english.
Maybe it's different with Lem3 than with Blitz.
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I tested gesture clock and it always shows for a short second a minimalistic but nice 4 digits bi-colour hour minute. I think it shows my watchface before I updated but I can't say for sure because I didn't use that a lot.
I don't find it problematic not to have the full clock face when just wanting to check the hour, I think it's better for the battery life. But this behavior requires to push a button each time we want to really use the watch and not only check the time.
Talking of battery life I didn't precise that I use a custom level of brightness somewhere between mid and low and that I deactivated all sounds. I am sure those two steps greatly helps my watch longevity

i cant conecct with usb and my pc, this is possible with this watch?

Yes it is, but you need to plug your watch to its charging dock first.
If it is not working try activating usb debugging in the developer menu on the watch.
Some other people have a problem with their battery, unplug and plug it again a minute later seems to solve some problems.
If yours persists you should contact the vendor.

Hi,
How to upgrade build number? My Blitz is having Z9-KY-V03. I am using Wireless Upgrade and see a message saying "This version is not configured in FOTA server"

Lemfo LF16 - Experience and what do you think?

Hi,
I was searching for a Smartwatch and ended in ordering a (Chinese) Lemfo LF16 with full Android 5.1, ...
Interesting for me was that it seems to be a nice watch, smartphone functions, all connectivities possible and also some health function like pedometer, etc.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Watch LF16
Someone else having this one and already experience?
What are you thinking of this watch?
When I receive my, I will post feedback...
Thanks
giovanne

I'm anxious to hear more from people on this, and if there are any hacks and such for it. I dreadfully searched for days for the standalone smartwatch that was best for me, in the price range of this thing, and settled on this one for it's quick access sim slot (I will be alternating between this and the Nexus 5X), loud speaker (which is on the side, not on the wrist/bottom) because I need to hear my notifications), big screen, and not overly geeky looks. Hopefully it's as good as it seams and I don't regret my choice!

Well,
Here is a quick list of what I have discovered so far. Depending on what you will be using it for, you will either really love it or really hate it!
I'm using it mostly for the Bluetooth MP3 player features in addition to the basic watch.
Pros
• Nice design ala "Gear S3
• I can finally walk down the street with my Bluetooth music playing and swinging my arms without intermittent cutting out!
• The Bluetooth sound reproduction is really good even with stock player.
• Speaker nice and load.
• The weather update now works using your phone data and no longer request that you turn on your GPS.
• Access Sim with requiring the removal of back cover.
• Got rid of the ugly backgrounds within Notification screen, just a sweet black (well almost black)
Cons
• Operating system seems very beta as it has the most ugly watch faces ever released for a Lemfo Android watch, and leaves us with only 2 tolerable faces (hence incomplete OS)
• Unable to load up custom watch faces via "Clockskin any more.
• Watchstrap LUGS have been removed so not custom watch strap mods
• Silver bezel only comes with white band.
• Watch strap is very flimsy compared to the silicone strap available with the X3 Plus
• Watch is toted as, "Ultra thin" but it is not. The bezel is low profile, but there is more to the body although beveled in, so the watch has an unattractive umbrella look to it.
• Bezel is not stainless steel but some other lighter metal, maybe Aluminum or Titanium Alloy, so the quality feels almost Toy like. (so don't bump it!) My X5 still rules!
• Lemfo cut cost by providing a less than adequate charging cable that has poor magnet strength.
• I bought two of these watches and only one of the chargers worked. (Murphy's Law)
• When booting to recovery, there is no way to navigate the menu as it only has one button
• When navigating some of the app functions user is unable to adjust a function that requires swiping as this brings you back to a previous screen (Try to increase the volume by swiping without backing out of the function!
• Still unable to add App widgets to existing basic three (weather, fitness, music etc)
• Some screens don't allow you to go one step back by swiping right, but instead you have to press the power button and start again.
• At times "Data" connection seems to keep turning it self off. I think it happens after phone goes to sleep for a period of time, but the function to disable "turning off the data" is no longer within the "Display" section.
• Screen is promoted as, "Amoled" but the blacks still appear back-lit!

Enable Data
Update,
Enabling data now has its own icon within the quick access screen. I think that I was disabling this, not knowing what it was and therefore concluded that the data was turning itself off.

Thanks for the really good and detailled feedback.
I got mine LF16 also in the meantime.
Overall I can agree with you "Star_Inc".
For my first tests and usage I only want to use it as "normal" clock/watch and to try the pedometer.
For the first tests and to have max. bat-life I use the watch in Flightmode without (GPS, GSM, WLAN,...)
For the normal clock I tested with custom ClockFace handling.
- apk - Clockfaces available for the KW88 clock will work on the LF16 too
- "ClockSkin" folder method works with e.g. the (standalone) launcher/app from Eric: http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/thread/267/standalone-clockskin-engine-apk-version
First pedometer tests where ok - will go on testing
Bluetooth with my Oneplus 3 Smartphone is working (but I don't like all the notifications on the watch)
Bluetooth filetransfer from Smartphone to LF16 is working (e.g. useful when transfering a new apk to the watch)
The suggested APP WiWear(SinWear) for the phone to connect is "horrible"!
I will go on testing...

does anyone know how i enabled syncing?

What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.

Hey Guys
I have already received my watch i agree with stark_inc, but i see the quality of the bezel is good
the overall feedback after 2 days is good, except 2 things
1. the terrific support program WiiWear (SinWear), this is the only way to connect the watch to my phone, unfortunately failed to connect it to Android Wear, MediaTEK Smart Device or Fundo, i hope some body helps with this
2. i cant add more watch faces also
for battery life it is ok to keep in your hand 1 day (provided you don't go through it many), thickness is ok, i think it was to be better if it is 1.3" instead of 1.39"
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does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
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Only i can sync the watch to the phone through the rubbish program WiiWear
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Hav4k said:
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
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if you are going to use it much, it won't go with you for 1 day
turning off wifi will support battery significantly
GPS is ok i get my location exactly

Hey Guys
I tried ClockSkin Launcher and it is working fine
the major issue for me now that i cannot connect the watch to the phone except via this very poor WiiConnect (SinaWear) app, even it doesn't sync the steps and it really fool app, i hope someone can help how we connect the watch to Apps like Android Wear or any other useful app!

I'm Working On Something Wonderful!
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!

@Stark_Inc, hey man, if you can do that, kudos, I'll try it out. Can you elaborate on what you're doing, other than making a ROM for these phones? What is it based on? Stock? Or using LF16 rom and just editing the watchface handling?
I think a new ROM is certainly not a bad idea if it can be done - it may allow us to more easily fix the rest of the problems, which I agree are many.
I'm soooo disappointed with this thing (LF16). I chose it because of the easy access of the SIM card because I thought I'd like to swap between phone and this, but the battery life, if the watch is used, SUCKS, and charging "in the field" is pointless given how lousy the connection is (bad format anyway). Starting to think what I would have preferred isn't a full android watch in the first place - but more like Android Wear. I'm really hoping people who are smarter than me save the day with new ROMs and other fixes to make it worth owning.
I didn't spend 100 bucks for a watch. I honestly don't care a whole lot for watches (jewelry in general), I paid for a smart device. What is the point if you can't use it all day - which you can't. You can use it as a watch all day. I haven't had the guts to try it with my sim card yet. I doubt it would be much better. But turning off BT and WiFi certainly improved battery life by a TON. But what's the point?
I thought it would be easy to find a replacement companion app for this thing (for smartphone) but nothing works with it. Even the one they want you to use is not only **** even it if it worked, but for me crashes (Nexus 5X with 7.1.1) ever time it connects. I can't track fitness for ****. Even Google Fit - um, where's the heart-rate data collection? I tried apps both directly on the watch and the Nexus - nothing seems to collect historic data.
I think some of my problems are more with "stand-alone Android" watches more then the LF16, but since this is my first, I could be wrong.

KW88/LF16 Lite and Clean
So i'm moving away from my original idea of porting a "ClockSkin" friendly rom, and instead I am working to make the KW88/LF16 Rom more cleaner, lite'r and battery friendly. In fact, I have sought of started to make the UI more like the GEAR S3. I'll keep you posted.
Oh. I've also installed my own clock face of preference within the existing WatchApp engine, and I am sure I should be able to activate other dormant faces in the future.

someone try to add this keyboard ? https://www.kickstarter.com/project...oard-the-first-dedicated-smartwatch-k?lang=fr
i'm looking to a faces like this too, i love one hand watch

Stark_Inc said:
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
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This should be great!
One question, KW88 watch is almost (except camera) the same HW than LF16, Do you Know if it's possible to flash KW88 ROMs in LF16?. Support for KW88 seems to be much better than LF16.

Small back from this watch I have for less than a week, the battery holds about 8 hours, without playing too much, black screen, not the needles in permanent lighting, I hope the arrival of a rom by Stark_Inc It would be really good, optimize the duration of the battery, make that one can further decrease the brightness, I have a sim card in and the data connections active. If not, I find it beautiful. I would like the screen to display the hours all the time, with a duration of 10 hours would really bein, is it a dream? I am on the orange network france.

Hi, I'm waiting form my LF16 to arrive (I guess I would go with the LEM5 for the 1GB of RAM, but I've noticed it after my watch was shipped ),
I'm spending my time planning my actions with itm so...
- Is kingoroot working on this watch to gain root access?
- is it possible (and needed) to activate swap on this watch?
- any list of mods/customization existing - maybe a new thread, or a sticky?
I hope people can make this watch worth the money, as I read it is not really that good....

Hi. I got this smartwatch for my son for xmas and I have not being able to get a pre-pay service provider to get a sim card for it. my son does not have a cell phone that is why we got him the watch but where ever i take it they say that wont work with their network. Can somebody please help me to finish with my son xmas present.
Thank you

Hi ,
The watch work with : 3G WCDMA 850/2100 ; 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 quad-bandes Network .
You have to find the telephone company that uses its frequencies .

Has anyone though about installing a bigger battery on this watch? I have seen some on eBay up to 1200ma. This would definitely sort out the battery problems but I have no idea whether or not they are safe to install or even what type of battery this watch uses as I haven't opened it up.
Something I was thinking about doing but not sure if it can be done

Hi Karl, can you send me the links to the ebay store please ? tnx , now the automnomy of my watch the 3 / 4 days are 5 hours max !

AlCall W1 3G ¿opinions?

It has good looking, interchangeable strap, sim card, 2gb ram, 16gb storage, 420 battery ... I need to know if anyone has it and could give opinion ...
opinions?
https://es.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_848810.html

Can not change belt? I had read yes

arriero7 said:
Can not change belt? I had read yes
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No, absolutely not. Unless you can relocate all the antennas which are in the strap.
I have it in front of me now. I promise you that this is not an option
Sent from my HTC 2PS6200 using Tapatalk

Thanks Pablo, I was already surprised by the antenna issue. However, in many reviews was made that the belt could be changed, a shame.
How is the battery carried ?, better than No.1 D5 +?
Greetings.

arriero7 said:
Thanks Pablo, I was already surprised by the antenna issue. However, in many reviews was made that the belt could be changed, a shame.
How is the battery carried ?, better than No.1 D5 +?
Greetings.
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Yes, battery is actually very good considering it has 2g ram. Lasts very well. I work as a consultant for the firmware makers and we have worked hard to make this a good software solution.
Sent from my HTC 2PS6200 using Tapatalk

Have you participated in the firmware of this smartwatch? What material is the belt? I had a NO.1 D5 + but the leather strap was damaged very soon ...

pablo11 said:
Believe what you want.
But the straps cannot be changed without removing the antennas from inside them.
Cheers..
Sent from my HTC 2PS6200 using Tapatalk
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I pay attention to you, I imagine that they will have answered that to sell.
Thank you very much Pablo!

How's battery life? i want it but few reviews to decide to buy it.

What is the time life without SIM, only with bluetooth?

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What is the time life without SIM, only with bluetooth?
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Last update situation
detached from power supply at 9:30 under power saving option i have 32%, at this ratio battery life expire at 22:30
No sim used only Bluetooth on ( i have some problem whit bluetooth for much times connection lost and badly to reestablish whit the phone, sometimes reconect for itself sometimes i have turn of and turn on Bluetooth on the smartwatch, its not clear if the problem is the phone or the smartwatch, i use redminote 3 i have paired amazfit bit too and work well) i have use for some minute wifi connection to instal wordreference app from the appstore and use that for searching 5 6 word, try to use cardio 10 12 times( yesterday cardio have work well today suddenly turn out of phase and say me 140 bpm when im in totaly relax, used amazbip at same time my bpm still 65, after one reboot situation seems fixed)
In app reminder i have set mail - watsap and other but not work i dont received any notification.
Under power saving consumption just at this time i have
Power idle 44%
screen 12%
mobile standby 6%
weather app 4%
android system 2%
wifi 1%
android os 1%

berserkmir said:
Last update situation
detached from power supply at 9:30 under power saving option i have 32%, at this ratio battery life expire at 22:30
No sim used only Bluetooth on ( i have some problem whit bluetooth for much times connection lost and badly to reestablish whit the phone, sometimes reconect for itself sometimes i have turn of and turn on Bluetooth on the smartwatch, its not clear if the problem is the phone or the smartwatch, i use redminote 3 i have paired amazfit bit too and work well) i have use for some minute wifi connection to instal wordreference app from the appstore and use that for searching 5 6 word, try to use cardio 10 12 times( yesterday cardio have work well today suddenly turn out of phase and say me 140 bpm when im in totaly relax, used amazbip at same time my bpm still 65, after one reboot situation seems fixed)
In app reminder i have set mail - watsap and other but not work i dont received any notification.
Under power saving consumption just at this time i have
Power idle 44%
screen 12%
mobile standby 6%
weather app 4%
android system 2%
wifi 1%
android os 1%
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Thanks for the report, your experience is that this smartwatch is nothing exceptional or different from any other smartwatch. With a sim card, imagine what it would cost to get to the end of the day?
Thank you friend for sharing your experience.

What about GPS accuracy? I have read that is very poor, worst than others similar smartwatches. This is an important point to check for me. Thanks a lot.

Nhio said:
What about GPS accuracy? I have read that is very poor, worst than others similar smartwatches. This is an important point to check for me. Thanks a lot.
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New update, my bluetooth problem still on the phone, power saving option modify now Bluetooth work well, tomorrow i try gps and phone, but i think i have 4-5 hours of battery life if im lucky.

Journal update, today I've detach from power supply at 8:00 sim installed Bluetooth off wifi off internet on, received a couple of mail, used google fit for 30 min(Google fit crash if i try to open an history job) restarted one time because system crash for unknown reason if i try to use face different for the standard one, after restart work properly, at 2 Pm life battery gone.
Recharged at 100% torn back to home 30 min of trip used sygic 17.2.2 ( seems work very well i have set a rout and all have work very well no crash, gps good curacy only one time in the middle to high house had move in the nearby street, fast to find location no lag very smoot, only thing whit sim install and connection internet on monitor full on midle light after 50 min 50% battery life.
Smartwatch seems work well but i have see many little bug, i pretty satisfied but i hope the vendor take care of this watch and release update very sooner, someone know something for that???

i have pebble time and use it everyday.
can allcall w1 replace pebble?
i am worried about whether to buy.

App reminder doesnt work properly.
Baatery is so bad while using Wifi,GPS.
Im disappointed at allcall w1.

I've tested my smartwatch twice to go to run. I used "sport tracker" and all was ok until I arrived at home and left the device over the table. The watch started to sound and said that battery was very hot the two days. And after restart the watch there were two times more that it was very hot again. I have AllCall_V1.3_B_20171017 compilation version. What can I do to solve it?
Regards

sagope said:
I've tested my smartwatch twice to go to run. I used "sport tracker" and all was ok until I arrived at home and left the device over the table. The watch started to sound and said that battery was very hot the two days. And after restart the watch there were two times more that it was very hot again. I have AllCall_V1.3_B_20171017 compilation version. What can I do to solve it?
Regards
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All you have to do is throw it away,bro

Hi Guys.. I recently saw this on Ali express and it got my attention.
My primary use of this is going to be as a watch and fitness tracker while gymming. What's the weight like?
I don't want to use this for calls or any other notification.
Would you suggest this or some other watch?
I Like this because it's round and looks much like an ordinary watch instead of a smart watch.
Please suggest,
Thank you

pyroblazer said:
Hi Guys.. I recently saw this on Ali express and it got my attention.
My primary use of this is going to be as a watch and fitness tracker while gymming. What's the weight like?
I don't want to use this for calls or any other notification.
Would you suggest this or some other watch?
I Like this because it's round and looks much like an ordinary watch instead of a smart watch.
Please suggest,
Thank you
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If I was you I would get a fitness band if you don't need any other features.
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Kospet Hope Smartwatch - Got Good Specs, What is your Verdict?

Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space

senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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I like it a lot, but the problem with it is the same as with other smaller Chinese brands: they don't provide any source code to the public, so everything has to be reverse engineered - the Kospet Hope already has TWRP and root, but a custom FW with all the goodies without the useless "Fitness" app (it would be nice, but the one on the watch is pure crap) and other bloatware would be AMAZING!
My advice is: the Kospet Hope 4G 3/32 is a great watch, but don't buy the Lite version if you haven't already ordered it. If you have, then you will enjoy that too! )

senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Have had the Lite for 3 days and am quite disappointed. Great hardware, but useless firmware/OS, and there is no getting around it, that I have found...
The GPS is not working with the fitness app, so forget about tracing a map or route or whatever. Google Maps is useless, under this resolution.
You can check your pulse with the built in app, which is useless, no history or syncing to the phone. Even if it did, the accuracy is terrible. I had HIGHER pulse sitting in my car than during running.
Yes, you can download any app from the store, but remember the screen is 320x320... Do you have any idea how Facebook looks on 320x320?? It's half VGA!! Imagine that your phone screen is a quarter the size of you KEYBOARD. Now try to run the phone on that small size, that how an Android phone works and looks like...
Even the watch faces are terrible, and I still haven't found a way to add any.
It is a beautiful watch, quite bulky (too much), but it is mostly useless. If someone does a Wear Os ROM for it, it might be a killer watch, but definitely not with this firmware/OS.
Thinking of selling it and getting an Amazfit.

This seems like the same story for all these Chinese no brand watches: good hardware, garbage software !
Why don't they just open the whole thing up as open source and within a year you'd probably have a better platform than Android Wear. I guess they don't do this because then they wouldn't be able to hide all of the government mandated spyware to pillage your personal info.

Hope is the real deal.. Just wish the software was more customizable.
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony

"OK Google"
marley666 said:
Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony
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there is no need to map a button to get google assistant, you just go to settings, languages & input, virtual keyboard, select google voice typing, and then voice match, enable "ok google" any time and unlock with voice match and you'll be able to activate google assistant on any screen, that do not awake the watch unless you hit one button, but once you do just say "ok/hey google" working on my kopet Optimus pro

Firmware updates: http://bbs.kospet.com/forum.php?gid=44

For those who are interested: I got one
All firmware, hacking, tweaking and changing here on my page: https://sites.google.com/site/tweakradje/android/kospet-hope-lite

I bought the Kospet Optimus Pro and had problems with it after a day of use. The touch screen would go crazy sometime. Couldn't do anything with it. Did a few full reset, but eventually the problem came back. Think it was my last time buying a Chinese watch. In principle, the hardware specs is good. But, the software is garbage. And with me, the touch screen too. Upon searching in YouTube, I saw a person with the same problem. So, I would stay away from it. But of course, my was probably defective. Even so, I'll stick with a name brand that provide warranty within my country.

My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers

Issues on Kospet Hope
Hello
Cons:
1. the 400x400 resolution of display give us an impredictable screen which is hard to tap at the corner (the third-party applications like any browser give a very little interface who it is inoperable without apk who could changing the resolution of the screen).
2. the autonomy of battery is a big fault : with 2 hour of browsing in 4G connection, 7 hours of bluetooth connection with my Note 4 without screen on, half of the intensity of the screen all the time and 2 hours of working in settings tab,without 4G connection of mobile data it means 11 hours of a real life of battery! A big caca!
3. the keyboard is have many problems to tap at the edge so it very hard to write something in this tiny layout so facebook and Messenger are not suitable for these reasons;
4.Sometime the gesture"raise hand to turn on the screen" not works!
5. the wiiwatch2 it is big caca!
6. the Wach Droid Phone and assistant lose, ramdomly, the link with smartwatch (bluetooth connection)
7.My old smartwatch ZGPax S8 could make a decent browsing at only 240x240 pixels resolution, with translucent keyboard apllication "Flit Keyboard". The Kospet Hope it is in backyard, 10 years ago!
8. In charging mode with bluetooth on or wi-fi turning on, it is very hot
9. very thick! not for women!
10. a very unusefull interface of android 7.1.1
11. Iwill not buy another one !
Pro:
1.Speed.
2. Display Amoled
3. Sound
4.Good construction
5.Faces of watch
6.good camera pictures (5 MPx real, not interpolatwd by software) but worst video recording
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi there! Ive got the update but cant really instal ... the screen doesnt show the OK button , .... i switch on rectangularish mode but no luck eaven wost

tweakradje said:
My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers
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hello do you now how to unlock bootloader thnx?

@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.

tweakradje said:
@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.
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sorry im using BRAVE not Hope 6.0 android and bootloader is locked uff i cant find anywhere how to unlock it!!!!

fossil Gen 5

Am I missing something here or was everything about this launch misleading
I picked up the Gen 5 today. Google assistant does not talk to me. Only shows results on screen. And the battery modes are no where to be found.
I had a software update when I finished loading everything and no difference.
What am I missing??

I got one as well. Assistant talks to me just like it is supposed to. Do you have the speaker enabled under settings (swipe down from main screen)? Same with battery modes... they are right there next to the speaker icon when you swipe down. Icon is of a battery with a plus in the middle. Great watch so far, absolutely love it!

quickb5 said:
I got one as well. Assistant talks to me just like it is supposed to. Do you have the speaker enabled under settings (swipe down from main screen)? Same with battery modes... they are right there next to the speaker icon when you swipe down. Icon is of a battery with a plus in the middle. Great watch so far, absolutely love it!
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Which one is the speaker. Are you talk about the sound icon. That's for notifications, is it not?
I ended up finding the battery modes
Regardless. The battery life has been horrendous for me.
On my Gen 4 I would end my day from 630am till 8pm and have 60% left.
My Gen 5. I started at 8 ended at 630pm and had 10%

The speaker icon is essentially all sounds or mute AFAIK. Also I second that the battery is terrible. Started the day at 06:00, been in high power save and died at about 13:30! Seriously hope they can address this in the next update

YanN509 said:
The speaker icon is essentially all sounds or mute AFAIK. Also I second that the battery is terrible. Started the day at 06:00, been in high power save and died at about 13:30! Seriously hope they can address this in the next update
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Ya that is on and nothing from assistant. Only shows results on the screen. Does not talk back to me. So something is going on

I just got the new gen 5 watch for few days, I have issue on phone calls using the watch. While call in or pick up the call have too much chopping and distortion. I tried reboot the watch once and it work normal but after that it came back. Any pone have this issue? Or is only my watch is faulty?

Soapkeong82 said:
I just got the new gen 5 watch for few days, I have issue on phone calls using the watch. While call in or pick up the call have too much chopping and distortion. I tried reboot the watch once and it work normal but after that it came back. Any pone have this issue? Or is only my watch is faulty?
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Have the same issue. With both of them I had
I think it's a software issue and needs an update. Hopefully fossil is quick to address.

Imo
They did a piss poor job of this launch.
Software has major issues and bugs are running rampant. Speaker call issues. Battery life issues. Assistant not talking back to you. Battery modes hidden and not in settings.
There are some serious issues they need to resolve and fast

offline music app
I want to download music and play it offline since we have the storage - can anyone recommend the best music app for Wear OS for this purpose? TIA

[email protected] said:
I want to download music and play it offline since we have the storage - can anyone recommend the best music app for Wear OS for this purpose? TIA
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I wanted to look for it too, since spotify is still not able to offline listen music from watch.

Got the Gen 5 too. Pretty poor battery life.
Anybody know other than putting the watch everytime to "DND" or "Silent" how to avoid the charging sound when plugged and unplugged? I don't mind if somebody know the value in System / Global or Secure and write it via ADB.
P.s.: First Fossil, pretty poor watch (unstable). Same here, speaker glitch when talking, Google assistant talks when he wants and awful battery life. My Lemfo China watch was better...
Thank's

In order for the assistant to work properly, I had to set the language to English US. This needed to be done on the phone's setting and the on the google assistant settings through the wear OS app. For some reason setting it to English Australia cripples the assistant. Not an ideal fix, since it switches all apps on my phone and watch to imperial instead of metric. I have contacted support. It may be that you're seeing the same issue with Canada?
In terms of the speaker for calls, there is a known issue with the choppy sound and requiring a reboot to fix. They said they're working on a fix and will be rolling out a software fix soon.
As for the battery life. The different modes trade off functionality for slightly extended battery life. The battery life is not great, but I can stretch it to a full day. It took some time for it to settle down though after all the software updates and syncing of apps. It was terrible on day one and two.

Ciao I will try asking here as well since this is a Fossil Gen 5 specific thread.
The ok google detection is on.
if I keep pressed the centre button the Google assistant is launched on the watch and I can talk to the watch to give commands.
If I say "ok google" to the watch the assistant is launched on the phone and not on the watch, so I have to talk to the phone while I'd like talk to the watch.

Brightness issue??
I'm planing to buy the watch, but there are many reports that brightness of the watch is too low even compared to gen 4 or older Moto 360 or Huawei watch 1. Is it really the case,??
Can that be fixed from software side??
Also they have not specified display glass quality.. I mean gorilla,,sapphire..? ....
Can anyone help in clarifying
Thanks

I like the new Generation sure the battery life in custom mode with everything on maybe a bit worse than Generation 4 but at the end of the day I get easy 30% .... fooling around with it a bit more too because it is new.
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vorakeyur said:
I'm planing to buy the watch, but there are many reports that brightness of the watch is too low even compared to gen 4 or older Moto 360 or Huawei watch 1. Is it really the case,??
Can that be fixed from software side??
Also they have not specified display glass quality.. I mean gorilla,,sapphire..? ....
Can anyone help in clarifying
Thanks
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Never been that happy but when I wake the watch so far I always have been able to read it.
"Kind of the trade of the brighter the display the worse the battery life"
Glass not sure ? Never has a problem or scratches with the Generation 4

Different story for me, it's my hmmm 9th or 10th smartwatch, the Gen5 for me is a disappointment. The quality is not just there for now. MAYBE if they fix the bugs but other than putting the speaker to off, you can't quiet the watch when finishing charging. Also, the speaker distort a lot and waiting for a firmware update so for now, it's being returned to Fossil. Will wait for the Vivoactive 4s, the upcoming Diesel that might have a newer firmware and maybe the Galaxy Watch 2.

Really I must have got the one working watch.
I pull the watch out the charger at 7am and at 11pm I still have 70%....
Always on display, I turned off nothing including NFC, WiFi, GPS, bluetooth
My way of thinking is if it is not connected it is not working.
I read people can not find the battery modes ?
Swipe from the top down, what do you think the battery icon is for ?
Just for kicks I may one day see just how long I can make the battery last....
The watch is extremely fast and responsive.
For me there is no other choices, Galaxy Watch .... no apps, no Google Pay.
If you are not using a Samsung Device ??
The Fossil Generation 4 I guess is not bad, no speaker...... but most people in this thread are complaining about the speaker anyway. However I do agree above all the speaker can use some work.

for everyone who is facing google assistant issue i also had similar issues that GA doens't use to talk to me but then i came to know that you need to change the language of your mobile follow this
settings -> system -> languages & input -> languages and add English(UK) or English(US) to the list and keep it on first.
and the one which will be on first should be the language set in your watch as well. the reboot your watch and voila you can talk and get response from GA
hope this fixes your issue.
and with the calling issue and speaker issue its a major wear os bug on july 2019 patch. we will have to wait for new patch to be launched.
Have a good one

Wear Media for Wear OS
able to upload music to my Gen 5 but noticed a considerable lag when accessing the app on the watch. It takes a while for all the albums to show up and then it takes 15 seconds sometimes to have the first song of an album to show up, which is necessary to start playing. Anyone have a similar experience?

Guys, is it possible to sideload apps to gen 5?