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I was very impressed with what Samsung had to offer. The phone looks gorgeous, the camera performs absolutely incredible in low light (based on their own comparison with the 6+), and they've finally sped up TouchWiz!
Other things I was really impressed with were
1) Exynos 7420 - First 14nm FinFET processor should offer better battery life and performance - Initial Antutu scores were over 69,000!
2) Real-time HDR on both front and back cameras
3) Wireless charging that supports both standards
4) Faster DDR4 memory
5) Faster storage memory (up to 2.7x faster than the current standard)
6) Samsung Pay and the support for MST (Magnetic Secure Transmission) which will allow it to be backwards compatible with nearly all merchants and terminals
I'm sure I'm probably missing a few key points, but has the S6 made you want to switch?
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...has the S6 made you want to switch?
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Hummm... Touchwiz might be faster now, but it still is touchwiz. The price for a new S6 is just to high.
If i remove money from the equation... i would wait for the LG G4!
is there any news of the lg g4? i would like to see if it's gonna be a monster too
Japultra said:
I was very impressed with what Samsung had to offer. The phone looks gorgeous, the camera performs absolutely incredible in low light (based on their own comparison with the 6+), and they've finally sped up TouchWiz!
Other things I was really impressed with were
1) Exynos 7420 - First 14nm FinFET processor should offer better battery life and performance - Initial Antutu scores were over 69,000!
2) Real-time HDR on both front and back cameras
3) Wireless charging that supports both standards
4) Faster DDR4 memory
5) Faster storage memory (up to 2.7x faster than the current standard)
6) Samsung Pay and the support for MST (Magnetic Secure Transmission) which will allow it to be backwards compatible with nearly all merchants and terminals
I'm sure I'm probably missing a few key points, but has the S6 made you want to switch?
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I've read a few days ago that LG and Apple signed a deal with Samsung for those DDR4 RAM components. I'd also bet that LG will go with the faster nand (knowing that they like to keep up with Samsung). The S6 really looks snappy, but i'm not convinced it's the touchwiz/Exynos optimizations, i'd say it's because of better I/O with both the faster nand and DDR4 RAM. What i mean to say, you can bet that the LG G4, if LG decides to use the same components, might also be that snappy.
The camera is another story. The camera app launch speed, quick shutter speed, tracking autofocus, low light performance with that f1.9 lens.. it looks promising.
On the other hand, despite that newer AMOLED displays look really good (note 4 and now the S6) , but i still prefer LCD. I don't like the idea of possible burn-in issues (something i faced with my galaxy nexus back in the day).
Also, with Samsung Knox, and Exynos SoC's, i'm not sure how much development from the xda community will it get, it will always have "debloated" versions of the stock ROM, but everything other than that will be buggy.
I'd say wait a bit, more phones with similar specs and technologies (and possibly lower price tag) will emerge (Chinese and non Chinese).
Screen is too small for my taste, but the Note 5 might be a good shout if the rumors of Touchwiz not being dog slow prove true.
The LG G4 will be anounced in the next couple of months - I'll wait to see what the spec of that phone is before deciding.
I just moved from my beloved but ridiculously buggy-slow g3 to a Note 4. I miss the back controls...but other than that, not much else. I've had so many lagging/rebooting android devices now and the Note just doesn't. It'll take a lot to make me go back to LG or HTC in the near future.
NO SD Card for me it is deal bracker
Faster memory/storage is a treath, faster CPU - i never feal lack of performance?
Smaler body is also nice (one handed operation with G3 while riding my bike is Chalenging )
Small batery - we need to see how long it'll last?
at the end i am not changing (not to S6) for now
no sd card and no removable battery either... a big no no...
No sd card slot, non removable battery, 800€ for the 64gb version. Oh hell no.
QHD with ultra powerful processor, without removable battery..? i fear the battery life would take a hit
and the lack of microSD slot...
and Exynos...
yep, too many dealbreakers. won't consider as an option unless G4 is overall a worse package.
Nope, I personally hate the idea of a screen degrading to the point it basically damages itself (burn in)
Until AMOLED technology has advanced far enough that it no longer suffers from such issues, I'll stick with IPS displays.
On top of that, I'm not sure I'm sold on any phone with 2 panes of glass. Sure if must feel awesome in hand, but just the thought of it being so delicate at such a high price..no thanks.
Short answer: No, I'll stick with my G3. I could care less if the S6 camera is better
No removable battery or SD card, WTF, major,mistake , batteries really need replacing after a year, Doh
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No removable battery or SD card, WTF, major,mistake , batteries really need replacing after a year, Doh
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Yep one possibility to secure future customers for the S7
I'm leaning more toward the HTC One M9. From the demos so far, the S6 still has a laggier interface. Not as bad as in the past, but still a bit more of a delay.
I quickly scanned the thread and failed to notice anyone say anything about the bootloader, WHICH WILL BE LOCKED
I have g3 too, but my microsd slot is empty and I never moved battery
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I quickly scanned the thread and failed to notice anyone say anything about the bootloader, WHICH WILL BE LOCKED
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And exynos processor. Soooo not many custom roms like cm12 etc.
It's amoled, so no, thanks.
I might leave the LG G3 ...... for the LG G4!
Though I might would be tempted by a note 5 (if there was such a thing) if it had an even bigger screen, because I really love phablets. But let's be honest, the price would likely be $800+ so once again the LG would likely win with whatever offering they had based on that fact. Also, the SD card slot is a huge sell point for me on anything.
I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
The rumor of the MicroSD slot returning is definitely one that caught my interest. Plus the fact that they are supposed to be working with Google to improve TouchWiz makes things sound even better. I am interested in the S7 with al the rumors going around, but I still want to see what the other companies have to offer before I make my choice.
Given my choices, the decision will be easy, assuming the micro sd card returns. I personally would also love to see the return of remove-able battery, but I can live without that. Whatever phone I wind up with, is going to go right into a protective case, so the solidness and elegance of the build is of little importance. Nice, but for me, form is trumped by function. The S6 was too much of an iPhone wannabe. I'd rather get an iPhone. The ability to expand storage on a phone that is also highly customizable, that is what I love about my S5. It is like having a phone that is also a highly powerful computer. I can sync with my home pc remotely, pull files over to myself, etc. These are features you lose with iPhone without jailbreak, but there are things IPhone does better than Samsung. It would be a real toss up. The return of the sd feature alone, would make my decision for me.
Well, the choices you have right now make the S7 an easy choice, but remember this is a new year and therefor new phones from other companies later on. With the Snapdragon 820 in effect now I rather wait a few months to see what happens even though I do like the way the S7 is looking.
Yeah, despite how much I hate the idea of a phone without replaceable battery, if the S7 comes with SD, that will probably be enough to upgrade from my S4, which is actually still plugging along nicely. I was all set to get an S6 until it was released, but losing both battery & storage cost them a sale.
I'm really leaning towards the S7 if they have the return of the sdcard slot. I'm currently using the Note 4. But I also want to see what the Note 6 has in store as well. If they do indeed decide to put back in the sdcard and have better battery life then I"m all in. But thats almost 7 months away, not sure if I can hold off that long...lol.
Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
I will wait to see what note 6 brings. I still keep my note 4. I can't justify "upgrade" to phone without sd card, non removable battery, lack of infrared port and hdmi out. All those features I regularly use
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Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
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So true. Who cares how the phone looks. It is nice to have a slim, aesthetically appealing phone, but I would take an extra mm or 2 thickness for an extra 300-500ma on the battery any day, and having a remove-able battery is important when your phone crashes and you need to completely shut the thing off. Function trumps form, though form can be cool, just know that a case is going to minimize the cool day 1.
On my S5, when it occasionally crashes, holding down the power button for 7 seconds does nothing for me. I have to remove the battery to shut the dang thing completely off. I am curious if this is also true on the S6, and if so, what they heck users do when their phone crashes? Wait out the battery drain?
Return of SD Card is crucial. My company pays for the minimum phone, and don't allow us to chip in for upgrades, which means if I want to use a company phone (free phone), I am stuck using the lowest storage option. 32gb ain't going to cut it. Removable battery would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Return of Waterproof would be killer as well, again, not a deal breaker. When I search leaked features on the web, it seems as though return of sd card is a done deal, though I cannot find an original source. Anyone know if this is true? Fingers crossed...
I've seen many rumors about SD, but there's a good chance we won't know until the official announcement. I can grudgingly accept the battery situation, but unless they offer a 256GB variant, lacking SD will be a deal killer for me.
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
More excited about waterproofing coming back, micro sd is icing on the cake. Reason I didn't give up my S5, one its rooted and running custom rom and runs smooth and slick, but loved the water resistance, even taken vids and pics underwater and they actually come out real nice lol.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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There is not even a remote chance of that happening.
It's almost certain according to leaks that Edge will have 3600mAh, regular S7 will have 3000mAh.
Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
I think SD card expansion option really needs to be considered. Modular design is way to go.
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Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
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Batterylife on Edge will be better in standby, simply because of larger batteries. But in benchmark tests which only checks on-screen time, they will be neck-in-neck.
Batterylife (if everything else remains equal) is dependent surface area of display.
Area ratio = (5.5/5.1)^2 = 1.16
Battery ratio = 3600/3000 = 1.20
Edge version will give you better standby, in actual usage, on-screen batterylife will be almost same.
All variants of the device are said to come housed in a black frame, with a choice of black, white, silver or gold finishings, and the disagreeable camera bump is apparently now gone from the rear of the device.
On the subject of the camera, the sources both confirmed that Samsung has dropped the megapixel count from 16 to 12, and the f-stop is now a very appealing 1.7. Samsung plans to market the camera as being extremely adept at taking night shots, thanks to the lower aperture number, increased sensor size and dual-photodiode technology, which you can read more about in the camera section at the bottom of the page.
The pair of sources also confirmed that the S7 will be dust and waterproof, will house a hybrid dual SIM slot, returning support for microSD cards, up to 200 GB, and will have an increased battery capacity – all things that had previously been rumored.
The size, resolution and a number of other S7 specs were confirmed through another leak coming via. The leak comes in the form of a photo of a presentation slide, showing the S7 as part of the evolution of the S series.
On the slide, the device is given a 5.1-inch screen with 1,440p resolution, a 12 MP BRITECELL camera, 4 GB RAM and the Snapdragon 820 or Exynos 8890 processor. None of this is new or surprising, but it does begin to set long-running rumors in stone.
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I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
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It's not a rumor. It's 100% true. I got to play with one for a few minutes this week. It's a slick little device, a noted evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, improvement over the S6.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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What rumor of a 4500mAh battery? I have never once heard that, and there's no way in hell they'd almost double the battery size.
Its 3500 on S7 Edge version, 3000 on S7
"S7 Plus" rumours are fewer & fewer, I think we're only getting 5.1 + 5.5Edge
Really want a 5.7" Galaxy S7 Plus, NON EDGE edition.
I do not like the crappy changes to the Note 5 (IR, MicroSD, battery, no USB C)
Really was hoping for an S7, USB-C, IR Blaster, MicroSD (I can get over the battery) but it has to be 5.7"
I think I'm doomed. Don't want to wait until Sept / Oct for a Note 6 (if they even fix the poor decisions of the Note 5)
Anyone else looking at the S7 large, hoping the rumours were true?
Yes me too but i really wish that the note 6 comes along with the s6 and the s6 edge Samsung always push all the boundaries with her note serie and i heard that all the missing features are coming back as the IR and micro SD
I have a bad feeling the Note will remain a bad series now, no IR Blaster, no MicroSD - they'll aim it at "business" or something.
Also I don't NEED OR WANT the stupid S-Pen, it's wasting potential battery space.
What you described is the Note 5.... It's just a larger S6 really. Wait for the Note 6 and you'll get a larger S7.
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What you described is the Note 5.... It's just a larger S6 really. Wait for the Note 6 and you'll get a larger S7.
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They still axed the IR Blaster from S6 to N5 though
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They still axed the IR Blaster from S6 to N5 though
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They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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The question I ask myself is what was their rationale in removing the IR blaster, really! If they bring the IR and SD Card back, then I may consider another Samsung handset in the future; I could care less about the battery really. Until then, my N4 is a damn rockstar which I hope to keep for as long as I can. I do envy the more memory and speed other Samsung phones are coming out with and other OEMs are pushing, but the N4 is like the zenith of the Samsung days before their decline to mediocrity Apple-like scheme.
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The question I ask myself is what was their rationale in removing the IR blaster, really! If they bring the IR and SD Card back, then I may consider another Samsung handset in the future; I could care less about the battery really. Until then, my N4 is a damn rockstar which I hope to keep for as long as I can. I do envy the more memory and speed other Samsung phones are coming out with and other OEMs are pushing, but the N4 is like the zenith of the Samsung days before their decline to mediocrity Apple-like scheme.
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The IR blaster was one of those retro things one phone brought back and others followed, it's likely due to cost. I don't know anyone personally who actually used it on theirs. I think I tried it once or twice to mess with a TV at a bar, but that was it.
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The IR blaster was one of those retro things one phone brought back and others followed, it's likely due to cost. I don't know anyone personally who actually used it on theirs. I think I tried it once or twice to mess with a TV at a bar, but that was it.
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I see. I use it everyday, even if I have my xfinity remote next to me, I just open up 'Peel Smart' and get a personalized listing of my fav channels, shows, and with their latest update, personalized shows and channels with reminders to even remotely set your DVR to record your fav show/movie if you have any set up along with the app, to record your show. It is a nice convenience to have. I guess it is what it is!
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They anyway have too many SKU's to maintain. 2 flagships during 1st half of year is more than enough for them and the world.
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They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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Multiple mockups of the S7 case accommodates the IR Blaster.
One of the leakers on twitter continues to claim these will NOT have USB-C
It's 2016.
No USB-C
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I can't imagine that Samsung would not include USB-C with the S7. I can't say that it would be a deal breaker for me, but it would be a big let down.
I wonder how are they going to manage the confusion with S7 and S6 Mini coming out in a short time - unless they plan to scrap S6 Mini and supersede it with S7 Mini...
First USB-C rumour printed by Sammobile, sounds like wild speculation to me, considering no one else said anything positive about USB-C at all.
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One of the leakers on twitter continues to claim these will NOT have USB-C
It's 2016.
No USB-C
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Now this is one thing which willl create a lot of debate. Practically speaking, you are not going to gain much with USB-C.
1. Fast charging can happen without USB-C. S6/Note5 charges faster than Nexus 5x/6p with USB-C.
2. Transfer rate bottleneck is NAND rather than protocol bandwidth. You can use Wifi if you need better throughput.
Instead look at the flip side:
I will need extra cables. And USB-C cables are really bad now, most what you find in normal stores are really bad quality. Check this out:
https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
If you want to hunt for cables, you will probably have to use this link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
See many of the cables are just bad. With normal microUSB, nobody is going to face this problem. Also a question of existing accessories and Gear VR. Gear VR works only with microUSB. I don't think normal consumer is going to go through all this hassle before buying a cable, and may end up frying the phone. microUSB in 2016 isn't such a bad thing.
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Now this is one thing which willl create a lot of debate. Practically speaking, you are not going to gain much with USB-C.
1. Fast charging can happen without USB-C. S6/Note5 charges faster than Nexus 5x/6p with USB-C.
2. Transfer rate bottleneck is NAND rather than protocol bandwidth. You can use Wifi if you need better throughput.
Instead look at the flip side:
I will need extra cables. And USB-C cables are really bad now, most what you find in normal stores are really bad quality. Check this out:
https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
If you want to hunt for cables, you will probably have to use this link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
See many of the cables are just bad. With normal microUSB, nobody is going to face this problem. Also a question of existing accessories and Gear VR. Gear VR works only with microUSB. I don't think normal consumer is going to go through all this hassle before buying a cable, and may end up frying the phone. microUSB in 2016 isn't such a bad thing.
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"Not much to gain" is irrelevant, it's about adopting modern technologies which ensure you're "future proofing" your device.
I intend to move to all USB-C as soon as possible, it can put through more power, it can be faster than MicroUSB. Also claiming nand is the bottleneck is fine on older phones, the S6 onwards has UFS IIRC and vastly faster memory than they used to.
You DO NOT sell a "flagship phone" in 2016 without USB-C when the mid range good ones have USB-C. In 12 months they all will, period. Adopt now.
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"Not much to gain" is irrelevant, it's about adopting modern technologies which ensure you're "future proofing" your device.
I intend to move to all USB-C as soon as possible, it can put through more power, it can be faster than MicroUSB. Also claiming nand is the bottleneck is fine on older phones, the S6 onwards has UFS IIRC and vastly faster memory than they used to.
You DO NOT sell a "flagship phone" in 2016 without USB-C when the mid range good ones have USB-C. In 12 months they all will, period. Adopt now.
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Talk in terms of data/specifics rather than intangibles like "future proofing".
1. What future proofing are you talking about? Other than reversible connector, what advantage does One Plus 2 provide over microUSB in S6? First mention it specifically and than we will discuss.
2. Regards to charging, S6/Note5 and other devices can charge faster than USB-C in Nexus 6p? So what is your argument here?
3. If you want to transfer data fast, you can easily use Wifi, or do you have anything against using Wifi?
Let's just assume everything above is irrelevant to you, how do you connect the Gear VR?
And most of all, how do you stop the common man from buying rogue USB-C cable? When I catagorically showed you proof that most USB-C cables are bad, and some can actually fryb your system, how do you stop the common man from buying those?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...e-thats-so-bad-it-fried-his-chromebook-pixel/
^^ Tell me how you stop a common man from doing the same mistake, when the Google engineer couldn't avoid it? Smaung thinks about common man who has no clue about technology, not geeks in XDA.
New technologies are all good, but one needs to have proper situation to send it to mass market. The first 4G LTE smartphone (like Thunderboth) were technically "future-proof". But they had pathetic batterylife during initial stages of LTE technology. What was the use of "future proofing" when it resulted in negative result?
Stop, you're embarrassing yourself, just stop.
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Stop, you're embarrassing yourself, just stop.
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All you have done is throw across buzz words like "future proofing" just like someone with no knowledge in this topic. You don't have answer to single points I raised, but all you want is so-called future proofing. I bet you are a guy who thinks camera quality is measured by number of mega pixels. Your last statement just proves you have no valid argument, but just conceding defeat. In last 6 hours, you have not come-up with a single answer/point to disaprove anything I said.
You don't even need a pea-sized brain to type that last statement.
This is real One plus 5T before launch
https://youtu.be/E3Bko4sBgmM
As you can seen above , there aren't any surprises when it comes to the design of the OnePlus 5T. Just as most rumors predicted, the handset looks a lot like the Oppo R11s, sporting a 6-inch AMOLED display with 1080 x 2160 pixels and an 18:9 aspect ratio.
The OnePlus 5T measures 156.1 x 75 x 7.3 mm and weighs 162 grams. Thus, despite its larger display, the new handset is not much larger than the OnePlus 5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.25 mm), and its thin bezels certainly help in this regard. Another design change concerns the fingerprint scanner, which now sits on the rear of the phone (whereas the OnePlus 5 has a fingerprint sensor embedded on the front).
Large screen and rear fingerprint sensor aside, the OnePlus 5T offers pretty much the same features as the OnePlus 5, including a Snapdragon 835 processor, a dual rear camera with Portrait Mode, a 3300 mAh battery, and Oxygen OS based on Android Nougat. Things haven't changed when it comes to memory, either, so the 5T has two variants: 6 GB of RAM + 64 GB of storage space, and 8 GB of RAM + 128 GB.
Is it worth to upgrade from one plus one?
As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
I don't like the idea that it will come out with Android 7.1.1 and not 8.0.
This will cause unnecessary frustration to buyers. I imagine they have to undergo a period of beta testing until the Oreo update will be ready. Not cool considering the price and the time of the release.
Nope cause less then 6 month from now Oneplus gonna release another flagship and by then you will wonder why you bought the phone in the first place...what make matter worst is that every Oneplus phone since OP3 have only 4-5 month of production before it stop completely to give way for other model in their line up...that can be consider the shortest production timeline ever for a flagship
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As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
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I also had the same mentality as you, until recent and i decided to opt for the 3t.
i once thought the opo was smooth, fast and still with it (maybe not with games but i dont play them)
I also thought the camera kept up as well as everything else, mate i even thought it charged fast!
Lemme tell you, everything and i mean everything has changed pretty drastic.
from fluidity to even how smooth the glass it. I didnt think it was possible but somehow it is!
Even OOS is slick. Was constantly flashing different roms on the opo trying to find a well rounded rom but every single one had at least 1 issue, whether it be using the CM camera hal, or if it had the notification bug (notifications didnt come through instantly when device was locked) or even if it was shocking battery.
NO regrets to upgrading :good:
I still love the OPO, checking XDA for it more than the OP3T
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
Not having Android 8 out of the box for OnePlus 5T will make me wait for OnePlus 6 or take a better look at Google Pixel 2XL. What other phones have Oreo oit of the box? Thanks!
And here we have a way better view of the phone in a new unboxing video
https://youtu.be/fFQ-5pb9eik
frankzappatistas said:
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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Agreed. :good: . That 120Hz is a welcome addition to the market IMO. I'd love to use a phone with that smooth scrolling . Though, I am not sure about wireless charging. You can't use your phone while charging. That tech must evolve to an "Ambient Charging", or something like that :cyclops: .
Specs in that leaked set of photos are wrong. Both cameras have f/1.7 Aperture and same focal length, which makes no sense.
So, I doubt whether we should assume it has Nougat.
I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
zalamandra said:
I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
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If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
Mr.Ak said:
If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
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Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
zalamandra said:
Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
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If your budget permits,you can consider it.
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We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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EXACTLTY! That's why I bought ZTE Axon 7 for like 200 USD from China now. It has front facing speakers, amazing DAC and QHD AMOLED, OP5T has none of them. I had OP5 for a day and sold it - because of PenTile the screen IS LESS SHARP THAN OPO's! It was pissing me off so much I could not stick with the phone, OP5T gonna be the same. Big things are coming, better wait for them if you can - especially Treble and this 120Hz displays - they say it is whole another level of fluidity. My Axon will be arriving in two weeks or so, and is getting official Oreo in December, it has official Lineage and others too. Perfect device for to wait for OP6/OP6T.
idonttakedrugs said:
mate i even thought it charged fast!
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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That ain't normal, change your cable. Took me about an hour, 1.20h ish. I was using the cable from my wismec rx75
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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Are you using original charger and cable?
Mr.Ak said:
Are you using original charger and cable?
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No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
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No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
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It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
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It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
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You say that like my phone's going to explode. The original cable is about 70cm and only charges 100ma faster than my 3m cable so I'll probably stick to the long one for now. I'm fairly sure the original plug was only putting out 0.2A last time I used it (and I can't find it) so that's also a lost cause. I'm not sure why the original charger would be so much better anyway. USB is standardised so I assume the recommendation is just Oneplus trying not to get sued for other manufacturers' dangerous chargers.
So I went ahead and bought the s21 ultra. I'm coming from the N9860 HK Snapdragon version and I got fed up with the fact that we are still on the November update running Android 10.
I purchased the new s21 ultra snapdragon G-9980 (also HK Snapdragon). In my view, while it's a nice device, the bottom line is, there's hardly any difference between this device and the note 20 ultra except for the fact that the screen is smaller which causes a whole number of display compromises. For example picture-in-picture is basically unusable when compared to the note 20. It's a longer and slimmer device which means that they had to resize the way text is shown and often it is not nearly as pleasant to look at as it is on the note. Just take a look at the weather clock widget. Or the fact that folders are now only 3 items wide (not 4). Using Netflix you really notice the smaller size difference, and the curves, and it reduces the immersive nature of viewing video. The sound in my opinion is not as good on the note 20. Its.not as loud on speakerphone either. I certainly don't notice any difference in speed. And I'm so used to the square shape that I feel like I'm using just another Android device, as opposed to the note 20 ultra which is so unique. Yes the battery life and camera are marginally better (and yes the fingerprint reader is definitely better for me) but at the end of the day the note was good enough for my purposes.
So if you're on the fence and thinking about upgrading make sure you're able to return the device if you don't like it and don't sell your note 20 too fast!
Of course this is only after a day or two of use and maybe I will get used to it! Bit so far I'm already missing my note!
Update: So FINALLY the Note 20.Ultra n9860 got the android 11 update. Unfortunately what I thought are the weird layout issues on the s21 are bundled into the new android 11 update ! So the devices are now more similar than ever, except the size and shapes. What is interesting is the new 'enhanced processing' option... I tested both devices with this setting side by side (they are both snapdragon) and weirdly, the note 20 is actually faster! It's probably less efficient, but nevertheless interesting.
Couldn't agree with you more.
The only thing good/plus on the S21 ultra? The ability to smoothly go from 1x to 3x then to 10x, thanks to the extra camera, other than that, no way. Especially when the rip features like the Micro SD Card slot. When I thought, when are they stopping the ”nonsense” hybrid slot Bellshill... ? They just sort out the problem by removing it altogether.
Dam Samsung...
By the way, Android 11 and One UI 3.0 is now rolling out on my 9860 since today lol.
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So I went ahead and bought the s21 ultra. I'm coming from the N9860 HK Snapdragon version and I got fed up with the fact that we are still on the November update running Android 10.
I purchased the new s21 ultra snapdragon G-9980 (also HK Snapdragon). In my view, while it's a nice device, the bottom line is, there's hardly any difference between this device and the note 20 ultra except for the fact that the screen is smaller which causes a whole number of display compromises. For example picture-in-picture is basically unusable when compared to the note 20. It's a longer and slimmer device which means that they had to resize the way text is shown and often it is not nearly as pleasant to look at as it is on the note. Just take a look at the weather clock widget. Or the fact that folders are now only 3 items wide (not 4). Using Netflix you really notice the smaller size difference, and the curves, and it reduces the immersive nature of viewing video. The sound in my opinion is not as good on the note 20. Its.not as loud on speakerphone either. I certainly don't notice any difference in speed. And I'm so used to the square shape that I feel like I'm using just another Android device, as opposed to the note 20 ultra which is so unique. Yes the battery life and camera are marginally better (and yes the fingerprint reader is definitely better for me) but at the end of the day the note was good enough for my purposes.
So if you're on the fence and thinking about upgrading make sure you're able to return the device if you don't like it and don't sell your note 20 too fast!
Of course this is only after a day or two of use and maybe I will get used to it! Bit so far I'm already missing my note!
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I agree. The shape of the screen is never going to suit me after I've used a note phone. I hope they never stop making the note series.
tiho5 said:
I agree. The shape of the screen is never going to suit me after I've used a note phone. I hope they never stop making the note series.
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Yep, so true.
Unfortunately, all points out to Note 20 Ultra being the last Note.
It's just Samsung being greedy , trying to shift traditional Note users to the latest Foldable trend (More ways to justify the crazy price jump every time they launch a new phone).
In my humble opinion, I will never shift to a Foldable phone until their screen gets a real glass feel (and not easily scratched).
I have both and I'm pretty satisfied with my s21 ultra. Have to admit that it's easier to hold the s21 ultra though. At the end of the day it's to each his own but I'm using both phones anyway.
I'd say if you don't have a note 20 ultra and you're deciding whether it's this or s21 ultra, I'd choose s21 ultra.
Either way you can't go wrong that's for sure.
tiho5 said:
I agree. The shape of the screen is never going to suit me after I've used a note phone. I hope they never stop making the note series.
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The rounded display corners puke me out.
No way. Sick of the lame CRT retro look.
Samsung and Android have given me little valid reasons to leave my 10+/Pie platform and plenty of good reasons not to.
Samsung turning out half baked, high dollar phones in an economic recession. Idiots.
Android's scope storage and obsession with security is laughable.
Google its self is the biggest security risk.
Overlays and critical tools are gone starting in Q.
Without those tools security and troubleshooting unrooted phones becomes an even worse guessing game than it was with Pie. Key apps are now useless.
Puny Google.
Put these failed concepts together and you have a big $loppy me$$.
No.
fjorger said:
It's just Samsung being greedy , trying to shift traditional Note users to the latest Foldable trend
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The logic points that way, I agree. However, I think that this game is not going to play well for Samsung. Because there are two types of phone use:
- using a phone with one hand
- using her phone with two hands
Obviously the foldable phones are the choice for the second type of use.
On the other hand I like using my phone with one hand most of the time. Foldable phones allow you this type of use, but on a smaller limited screen. Therefore I would never use a foldable phone until the size of the unfolded(single) screen becomes as large as the size of the screen of the today's Note Ultra phone.
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The logic points that way, I agree. However, I think that this game is not going to play well for Samsung. Because there are two types of phone use:
- using a phone with one hand
- using her phone with two hands
Obviously the foldable phones are the choice for the second type of use.
On the other hand I like using my phone with one hand most of the time. Foldable phones allow you this type of use, but on a smaller limited screen. Therefore I would never use a foldable phone until the size of the unfolded(single) screen becomes as large as the size of the screen of the today's Note Ultra phone.
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Samsung has sunk huge sums of money and resources into the Fold series R&D and limited (lmao) production runs. Poor sales,multiple and many failures. Samsung neglected their much more lucrative product lines, idiots.
They rolled the dice with the Fold, again and again, and keep landing nothing but snake eyes.
Like a bad gambler they're now into it deep and being driven by the demon named Hope.
Luck done left the house and Hope's not far behind. Bah-ha-ha-ha, pathetic.
No water or dust proofing, no SD card, and a fold screen guarenteed to fail that is impossible to fully protect. Betaware at the best.
A real masterpiece.
Meanwhile during a global recession their key product lines are drastically rising in price with not much bang for the buck.
They really think the masses will buy a new expensive flagship phone every year especially if they didn't get a great experience?
Add to that Samsung support is some of the worst on the planet.
The 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship phone. Pie was Android's last good OS.
No signs either are cognizant of their blunders but consumers vote with their wallets.
No rigging this vote*...
*Not that they didn't try. Look at all the glowing reviews for the Folds when they first came out.
Not one negative one.
Same for Q. Google stopped posting their OS version breakdown because users hate 10 and 11.
I call bs...
ekerbuddyeker said:
So I went ahead and bought the s21 ultra. I'm coming from the N9860 HK Snapdragon version and I got fed up with the fact that we are still on the November update running Android 10.
I purchased the new s21 ultra snapdragon G-9980 (also HK Snapdragon). In my view, while it's a nice device, the bottom line is, there's hardly any difference between this device and the note 20 ultra except for the fact that the screen is smaller which causes a whole number of display compromises. For example picture-in-picture is basically unusable when compared to the note 20. It's a longer and slimmer device which means that they had to resize the way text is shown and often it is not nearly as pleasant to look at as it is on the note. Just take a look at the weather clock widget. Or the fact that folders are now only 3 items wide (not 4). Using Netflix you really notice the smaller size difference, and the curves, and it reduces the immersive nature of viewing video. The sound in my opinion is not as good on the note 20. Its.not as loud on speakerphone either. I certainly don't notice any difference in speed. And I'm so used to the square shape that I feel like I'm using just another Android device, as opposed to the note 20 ultra which is so unique. Yes the battery life and camera are marginally better (and yes the fingerprint reader is definitely better for me) but at the end of the day the note was good enough for my purposes.
So if you're on the fence and thinking about upgrading make sure you're able to return the device if you don't like it and don't sell your note 20 too fast!
Of course this is only after a day or two of use and maybe I will get used to it! Bit so far I'm already missing my note!
Update: So FINALLY the Note 20.Ultra n9860 got the android 11 update. Unfortunately what I thought are the weird layout issues on the s21 are bundled into the new android 11 update ! So the devices are now more similar than ever, except the size and shapes. What is interesting is the new 'enhanced processing' option... I tested both devices with this setting side by side (they are both snapdragon) and weirdly, the note 20 is actually faster! It's probably less efficient, but nevertheless interesting.
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Thanks for the tip on the very few differences on the s21 ultra & "my beast"! A couple of the online reviewers were saying similar, but glad to learn of a "hands-on" review from the troops in the XDA Army? So, I'll go back to re-read, but saw you finally got your slice of the buttery bread
Android 11 + One UI 3.0h-No...you kept your beast, the n20u1?
Good read, bruh, ty for sharing!
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I have both and I'm pretty satisfied with my s21 ultra. Have to admit that it's easier to hold the s21 ultra though. At the end of the day it's to each his own but I'm using both phones anyway.
I'd say if you don't have a note 20 ultra and you're deciding whether it's this or s21 ultra, I'd choose s21 ultra.
Either way you can't go wrong that's for sure.
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Yeah. I agree. If they would have had SD card support then i would have just got that instead of the Note 20 Ultra. I do like the square screen design on the note though. The Screen technology is also MUCH nicer than what we have with the Note. The Colors look much better. It is also alot brighter. The battery in the S21 Ultra also is alot more efficient thanks to the new panel in the S21 Ultra as well.
With that said i do absolutely love my Note 20 Ultra. I just think Samsung should have put a much larger battery in it
No SD Card, no built in SPen holder is enough for me. Have to have a big ugly case that the pen snaps in the side of. No thanks. Also prefer the less rounded look of the Note.
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No SD Card, no built in SPen holder is enough for me. Have to have a big ugly case that the pen snaps in the side of. No thanks. Also prefer the less rounded look of the Note.
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Just saw this same set-up you described at a Verizon store near me recently. Awkward, and that combo, the wannabe S-Pen+Samsung Case you get to purchase yourself along with the 25w fast charger, if desired? SERIOUSLY, could this be true?
Honestly I couldn't and wouldn't get the s21 ultra because I don't wanna be another few dollars that convinces samsung to ditch the note series in favor of anything else.
ekerbuddyeker said:
So I went ahead and bought the s21 ultra. I'm coming from the N9860 HK Snapdragon version and I got fed up with the fact that we are still on the November update running Android 10.
I purchased the new s21 ultra snapdragon G-9980 (also HK Snapdragon). In my view, while it's a nice device, the bottom line is, there's hardly any difference between this device and the note 20 ultra except for the fact that the screen is smaller which causes a whole number of display compromises. For example picture-in-picture is basically unusable when compared to the note 20. It's a longer and slimmer device which means that they had to resize the way text is shown and often it is not nearly as pleasant to look at as it is on the note. Just take a look at the weather clock widget. Or the fact that folders are now only 3 items wide (not 4). Using Netflix you really notice the smaller size difference, and the curves, and it reduces the immersive nature of viewing video. The sound in my opinion is not as good on the note 20. Its.not as loud on speakerphone either. I certainly don't notice any difference in speed. And I'm so used to the square shape that I feel like I'm using just another Android device, as opposed to the note 20 ultra which is so unique. Yes the battery life and camera are marginally better (and yes the fingerprint reader is definitely better for me) but at the end of the day the note was good enough for my purposes.
So if you're on the fence and thinking about upgrading make sure you're able to return the device if you don't like it and don't sell your note 20 too fast!
Of course this is only after a day or two of use and maybe I will get used to it! Bit so far I'm already missing my note!
Update: So FINALLY the Note 20.Ultra n9860 got the android 11 update. Unfortunately what I thought are the weird layout issues on the s21 are bundled into the new android 11 update ! So the devices are now more similar than ever, except the size and shapes. What is interesting is the new 'enhanced processing' option... I tested both devices with this setting side by side (they are both snapdragon) and weirdly, the note 20 is actually faster! It's probably less efficient, but nevertheless interesting.
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Thanks, feeling better now
Datboi459 said:
Yeah. I agree. If they would have had SD card support then i would have just got that instead of the Note 20 Ultra. I do like the square screen design on the note though. The Screen technology is also MUCH nicer than what we have with the Note. The Colors look much better. It is also alot brighter. The battery in the S21 Ultra also is alot more efficient thanks to the new panel in the S21 Ultra as well.
With that said i do absolutely love my Note 20 Ultra. I just think Samsung should have put a much larger battery in it
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Right to the point
So I got S21 ultra because only because there was a great discount + combo offer on the S7+ tab. The only advantages are
- slightly better low light camera performance
- 3x optical zoom dedicated camera, 10x optical zoom vs 5x on Note 20 series
- slightly better display in terms of color accuracy and brightness
- Fingerprint sensor is a little bigger so unlocking is more accurate
- Rounded corners make it easier to hold in hand vs N20U (but narrower screen takes away from the immersive experience you get on N20U)
This S21 Ultra however is a THICCC boi and feels a lot heavier than N20 Ultra. It is like going back to a 4 year old brick phone. I am all for a bigger battery but in this case the extra weight doesn't really double your battery(despite of lack of S-pen), but you do get longer runtime than N20U obviously. The increased thickness doesn't make sense when microSD and MST being removed. This thing runs warm to hot all the time, that Snapdragon 888 is like a dragon breathing fire and probably have worse battery wear over time lol. N20U runs very cool.
I switched back to Note 20U after using S21U for a week as it is a downgrade when compared to N20U. Got Samsung Care Plus on N20U for long term use in case this turns out to be the last Note phone, and gonna keep S21U as a spare and eventually trade it in to get next Note(hopefully).
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So I got S21 ultra because only because there was a great discount + combo offer on the S7+ tab. The only advantages are
- slightly better low light camera performance
- 3x optical zoom dedicated camera, 10x optical zoom vs 5x on Note 20 series
- slightly better display in terms of color accuracy and brightness
- Fingerprint sensor is a little bigger so unlocking is more accurate
- Rounded corners make it easier to hold in hand vs N20U (but narrower screen takes away from the immersive experience you get on N20U)
This S21 Ultra however is a THICCC boi and feels a lot heavier than N20 Ultra. It is like going back to a 4 year old brick phone. I am all for a bigger battery but in this case the extra weight doesn't really double your battery(despite of lack of S-pen), but you do get longer runtime than N20U obviously. The increased thickness doesn't make sense when microSD and MST being removed. This thing runs warm to hot all the time, that Snapdragon 888 is like a dragon breathing fire and probably have worse battery wear over time lol. N20U runs very cool.
I switched back to Note 20U after using S21U for a week as it is a downgrade when compared to N20U. Got Samsung Care Plus on N20U for long term use in case this turns out to be the last Note phone, and gonna keep S21U as a spare and eventually trade it in to get next Note(hopefully).
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Datz a good call, bruh.Didn't the 512gb s21 ultra come stock with less than 12 gb ram too? No 25w fast charger in the box, no micro SD slot, no s-pen in the box, as it's a "credits" deal with a certain case you select, or buy with your credits separately with a case that it won't attach itself to? Did I get most of that right? smh
Did you return your s21 ultra 5G then?
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Datz a good call, bruh.Didn't the 512gb s21 ultra come stock with less than 12 gb ram too? No 25w fast charger in the box, no micro SD slot, no s-pen in the box, as it's a "credits" deal with a certain case you select, or buy with your credits separately with a case that it won't attach itself to? Did I get most of that right? smh
Did you return your s21 ultra 5G then?
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Yeah, pretty much. They give you a coupon code to use on accessories but no charging brick or earphones are included.
It does come with 16GB RAM (512GB model) but way too many other compromises. NO eSIM support either in USA despite them advertising it on S21U product page (removed now), Samsung went out of the way to disable it! I still have the S21U, if I return it then I have to also return S7+ tab so I chose to keep it, but only as a backup phone to N20U.
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Yeah, pretty much. They give you a coupon code to use on accessories but no charging brick or earphones are included.
It does come with 16GB RAM (512GB model) but way too many other compromises. NO eSIM support either in USA despite them advertising it on S21U product page (removed now), Samsung went out of the way to disable it! I still have the S21U, if I return it then I have to also return S7+ tab so I chose to keep it, but only as a backup phone to N20U.
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You can get a Samsung fast charging 25w brick and cable for $20 now. Just got one.
No SD card and those lame round corners are a complete buzz kill for me though.
blackhawk said:
You can get a Samsung fast charging 25w brick and cable for $20 now. Just got one.
No SD card and those lame round corners are a complete buzz kill for me though.
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I got one of those GaN PD chargers and has been working well for me. It has two USB-C ports too so helps with charging the tablet. Yeah, the rounded corners make it look like a vintage CRT and videos don't look immersive at all. Not good for reading websites as well...