For Europe in future you need N1 and N28, without that you only get 5G in hotspots. So if you from Europe and care about 5G it is a bad idea to get a Poco F2 Pro.
Source: https://www.poco.net/de/poco-f2-pro/specs_m/
Depend on the EU country, Spain only will use n78 and Germany I think will use N78 and N1. K30 Pro chinese supports more 5G bands but no the N77. Here you have the bands supported by both phone models:
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For now it's only N78, the future is N28 (and N1)
Linuxkek said:
For now it's only N78, the future is N28 (and N1)
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reading this wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_5G_NR_networks#cite_note-SM_Frequencies_ITU_1-12
looks like n78 will be the standard and base 5g band, and enough for use 5g. Anyways if you are worried by 5g, K30 Pro Chinese have n1 also but I just think n78 will be enough for next 2-3 years, enough time to buy another phone with more bands and 5g will be more standard.
Why you talk about 5G when you don't know nothing about that? N78 can go up to 1000 Mbit/s but cover 1km², N28 can cover over +10km² and is 5 times better inside buildings than N78. With N1 they can transform 3G to 4G+5G, so it will be B1/N1. In Asia you can't do this but in Europe it's possible, just not good for hotspots, like the center of a big city.
2-3 years if they need to build from nothing.
Linuxkek said:
Why you talk about 5G when you don't know nothing about that? N78 can go up to 1000 Mbit/s but cover 1km², N28 can cover over +10km² and is 5 times better inside buildings than N78. With N1 they can transform 3G to 4G+5G, so it will be B1/N1. In Asia you can't do this but in Europe it's possible, just not good for hotspots, like the center of a big city.
2-3 years if they need to build from nothing.
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Why do you assume i dont know nothing about 5g?? I know everything about tech and if not, I just google it and read... and I talk whatever I want, you dont need say me about what I can talk or just dont ask this dumb question about a tech in early stages in Europe. Anyways if you are interested only in n28 band just buy another phone, you have many choices like Mi 10, Oneplus 8, Huawei P40, Realme X50, Oppo Find x2 or even cheaper and good phones like Mi 10 lite 5g, but I doubt you are going to use 5g too much at full capacity in next years or at least until you buy another phone.
And Germany is not the only country in EU, so you dont talk about "Europe" if you dont know nothing.
Just forget it, waste of time to talk with you.
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Just forget it, waste of time to talk with you.
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Just dont try scare people about buy POCO F2 with poor excuse as useless 5g n28 band and learn before write nonsense things.
You can check any last 5G phone for Europe market. N1, N28 and N78 supported. You think they did that because they looking for wasting money? ^^
Linuxkek said:
You can check any last 5G phone for Europe market. N1, N28 and N78 supported. You think they did that because they looking for wasting money? ^^
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Ok then buy whatever phone you want with n28, I have the Chinese K30 Pro Zoom edition and it also have n1 with n78, anyways n78 will be enough to use 5G in early stages and mostly of people dont care about 5g when buying a phone rn if in 2-3 years they will buy a new phone with 5g being more standard tech.
Please have in account that some operators can and will share the dynamically bands between 4G and 5G in the near future and the Snapdragon X55 Modem does support DSS:
Dynamic spectrum sharing - In order to make better use of existing assets, carriers may opt to dynamically share it between 4G LTE and 5G NR. The spectrum is multiplexed over time between both generations of mobile networks, while still using the 4G LTE network for control functions, depending on user demand. Dynamic spectrum sharing (DSS) may be deployed on existing 4G LTE equipment as long as it is compatible with 5G NR. Only the 5G NR terminal needs to be compatible with DSS
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- source
Note that the NR bands are defined with prefix of "n". When the NR band is overlapping with the 4G LTE band, they share the same band number
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In theory this modem can "read" i.e. n1 and n28 bands - see 3GPP TS 38.101 - still not sure if it works at all but is it possible to view/edit via QXDM? (not experienced in this tool)
For portuguese people personally I think it's good smartphone in terms of support of 5G since n78 is the primary band for the first rollout in big cities, n28 for countryside in a second stage.
Linuxkek said:
For Europe in future you need N1 and N28, without that you only get 5G in hotspots. So if you from Europe and care about 5G it is a bad idea to get a Poco F2 Pro.
Source: https://www.poco.net/de/poco-f2-pro/specs_m/
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Band 78 will be used by everyone in Europe. So if they also use 1 and 28 then great but will already have full coverage with 78.
In the Netherlands, as wel as in many other EU countries, the N77 and N78 band will come available first in approximately 2 years because the frequencies used are or not free yet or the frequenties are subject of auctioning off to the mobile operators and that has not been finished yet.
In 2 years this phone is already replaced by 2 successors so the 5G issue is not a real one.
Who then lives who will then care.
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Band 78 will be used by everyone in Europe. So if they also use 1 and 28 then great but will already have full coverage with 78.
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N77 (3700 MHz) and N78 (3500 MHz) won't ever have full coverage. These frequencies are relatively high and therefore don't reach that far.
What I'm waiting for is 700 MHz 5G (or other low frequencies). These will cover wide areas.
5G in the Poco F2 Pro is not really useful for me as it will provide a faster connection when I'm already having a very fast connection via LTE (>100 MBit/s) in the middle of the city.
I will go with a Realme 6 Pro or other cheaper options and wait another 2 years...
It is compatible with any sub 6 band that are all, both SA and NSA and also with mmWAVE. You can travel wherever you want and you will have 5G. This is allowed by the modem. Not being so with the previous modem (Mix3). So calm down
Mixermachine said:
N77 (3700 MHz) and N78 (3500 MHz) won't ever have full coverage. These frequencies are relatively high and therefore don't reach that far.
What I'm waiting for is 700 MHz 5G (or other low frequencies). These will cover wide areas.
5G in the Poco F2 Pro is not really useful for me as it will provide a faster connection when I'm already having a very fast connection via LTE (>100 MBit/s) in the middle of the city.
I will go with a Realme 6 Pro or other cheaper options and wait another 2 years...
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N78 cover ~1km² (indoor almost useless)
N28 cover ~11km²
Telekom 5G Germany
https://www.telekom.de/start/netzausbau
N1 = +95%
N78 = up to 5%
Vodafone 5G Germany
https://www.vodafone.de/unternehmen/netz.html (click on Zeig mir die Netzkarte)
N28 = +98%
N78 = few city's
In 5G region you can feel how the capacity increase for 4G too.
vicenhon said:
It is compatible with any sub 6 band that are all, both SA and NSA and also with mmWAVE. You can travel wherever you want and you will have 5G. This is allowed by the modem. Not being so with the previous modem (Mix3). So calm down
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Do you know what modem model is? Snapdragon X55?
Do you think that poco will add support for more freq later on ? or is it not possible ?
No, they won't, because if they start to talk about that, a lot will not buy a F2 Pro.
I still don't understand how this works. Providing the hardware for Poco F2 pro and the Chinese version are the same hardware wise is that "only" a firmware issue? And if that's so then why did Xiaomi decided to limit the bands on the global version so that 5G will be hardly ever usable at all then? And finally, if it is only about firmware would it be possible to apply the same firmware from the Chinese version on the global one?
In addition:
Linuxkek said:
No, they won't, because if they start to talk about that, a lot will not buy a F2 Pro.
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Why would people not buy it if Xiaomi announced they will add another frequencies with an update? I think it would be quite the opposite.
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To keep it short:
1. The international version of MT7-TL10 still does not support FDD B4, aka AWS, NA specific LTE for T-Mobile, ATT, Verizon, etc.
2. There is no release date for NA, due to CPU. Hisilicon Kirin CPU is prohibited entering the NA market.
3. The international model MT7-L09 supports AWS network.
We will have no further news about Mate 7 for NA xda members in the future. If you are looking for L09, we can bring that to NA if you are interested in.
The most accurate resource to check the compatibility here:
FCC LTE Dashboard
I just wanted to make sure I understood, so you're saying the 3Gb RAM models will not work on the AWS bands?
The MT7-L09 only seems to the 2Gb model.
@H. Clarkson
We got the international MT7－TL10 already. that comes with the identical frequency bands as that of Chinese version.
It seems that only the L09 will work in NA.
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@H. Clarkson
We got the international MT7－TL10 already. that comes with the identical frequency bands as that of Chinese version.
It seems that only the L09 will work in NA.
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Let me know if you guys ever have the L09 available. Also, do you charge tax and/or shipping to California? Thanks.
Buddy Revell said:
Let me know if you guys ever have the L09 available. Also, do you charge tax and/or shipping to California? Thanks.
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This is a special order we exclusively have from HUAWEI (it is not supposed to be sold in China). Since we are not positive how many USA and Canada xda members would order from us, we only book 5 units for the initial dispachment. The Obsidain Black unit (only one unit) has already been booked by a xda developer member here. The Moonlight Silver unit is ready to be booked. The shipment will arrive at our store on Tuesday and we can ship it on Wednesday. If you are a T-Mobile user, L09 is ready to fly! If you are a ATT user, it is fine as well, we think, since it covers AWS LTE.
Our business is based in China and therefore foreign buyers do not pay sales tax to our Government. The special price in our store is set for USA and Canada members, DHL Express included. It takes no more than 4 business days to arrive at USA.
What is the difference between L09 and L10? Thanks.
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What is the difference between L09 and L10? Thanks.
Sent from my Coolpad 9976A using Tapatalk
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2 vs 3 GB RAM and 16 vs. 32 GB ROM. The RAM makes a difference for heavy users, and L10 will soon support two independent Android systems.
So another 5 units (all black) are arriving this Friday.
mate 7 from amazon US legit?
This 3rd party seller is selling on Amazon US and claims LTE should work on AT&T with these LTE bands:
LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28 (Aphase) LTE TDD Band 40 UMTS 850/900/1900/2100/AWS MHZ .
Is this legit? If phone does have these bands, does that mean it should work on Tmobile USA also?
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This 3rd party seller is selling on Amazon US and claims LTE should work on AT&T with these LTE bands:
LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28 (Aphase) LTE TDD Band 40 UMTS 850/900/1900/2100/AWS MHZ .
Is this legit? If phone does have these bands, does that mean it should work on Tmobile USA also?
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The fact that you don't have to deal with customs and the high shipping rates is enough for me.. I ordered one today and will have it Wednesday.. If it doesn't work with at&t lte I'll send it back.. $549 flat is a chance I'll take..
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So another 5 units (all black) are arriving this Friday.
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Hi, getmobilephone. I made an order through your LeHarbour website, but need to cancel my order. It's not going to ship until Wednesday. Thank you.
Buddy Revell said:
Hi, getmobilephone. I made an order through your LeHarbour website, but need to cancel my order. It's not going to ship until Wednesday. Thank you.
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We have refunded you the full amount.
@l81tlons If that third party seller labels the model (for instance, L09) that will clear the question you have. From what we see on their page, we guess that is L09. That is a "small family owned" (their own description) company but that worth a try if you get the Amazon protection.
We just want to mention that, if any business company is to bring over 20+ phones to USA for commercial sales, a commercial importation tax is unavoidable and that company has to voluntarily report to USA customs. At that price offered from that third party seller, we can only think the commercial importation tax is avoided by some "unconventional" means, of which we cannot do and will not do in the future. Please forgive us for the "high", or regular, price. We run legal business for over 14 years.
For ATT network, if you consider HSPA+ as a part of LTE, yes you will get it. However, it depends on the region, and in some regions, you get full LTE and in some, drop to HSPA+, which is still fast. Give that third party seller a minute, not returning the phone if you cannot receive LTE in your region. We have sort of sympathy for them.
If USA and Canada xda members have further questions, please leave your comments here and @ us. We will check and answer periodically.
Have a nice day everyone here!
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We have refunded you the full amount.
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Thank you. :good:
I'm planning on using this phone on Wind Mobile here in Canada (if I can decide between this and another phone).
Wind Mobile runs on UMTS IV frequency band (HSPA/HSPA+ AWS frequency 1700/2100). But if this phone runs on T-Mobile then it's guaranteed to run on Wind also.
I'm also seeing one seller on Amazon Canada but it's only for the 16GB MT7-UL00.
Will I get "4G" with any model, or is this phone bound to 3G on the AWS band? If the better model you're offering can do 4G here then I'm interested in a 32GB ROM/3GB RAM version also, but I won't be buying one for a couple weeks yet, have to sell my Note3. Cheers!
volcolm said:
I'm planning on using this phone on Wind Mobile here in Canada (if I can decide between this and another phone).
Wind Mobile runs on UMTS IV frequency band (HSPA/HSPA+ AWS frequency 1700/2100). But if this phone runs on T-Mobile then it's guaranteed to run on Wind also.
I'm also seeing one seller on Amazon Canada but it's only for the 16GB MT7-UL00.
Will I get "4G" with any model, or is this phone bound to 3G on the AWS band? If the better model you're offering can do 4G here then I'm interested in a 32GB ROM/3GB RAM version also, but I won't be buying one for a couple weeks yet, have to sell my Note3. Cheers!
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We have sold an unit to Canada, and it is guaranteed to work with LTE there.
If it is UL00, it does NOT support LTE, even 3G, in Canada. You have to buy the L09 model, L09 we repeat. You can purchase from us (readily available) or from Amazon USA, whichever you trust and/or more convenient for you.
We had the international TL10 (3/32) but it does not support AWS. Therefore, if you are to purchase a fully functional Mate 7, then L09 model is the only choice for you.
The Amazon seller posted above does list the device as the L09. I lost interest for a while because Huawei couldn't seem to get their act together and actually sell the phone. But that is a good price from that Amazon seller, so I may just pull the trigger.
I'm interested to trying out Xiaomi , but seem like they don't have T-Mobile band 12 why? Huawei, ZTE, even the new company LeEco have band 12 and Xiaomi doesn't?
The Mi Note 2 Global Edition does have Band 12.
There are a total of three variants: 4GB RAM, 6GB RAM and another 6GB RAM variant which is specifically labelled as the Global 4G+ variant. This particular variant has the following bands:
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So in theory this could work on Verizon as well? Now THAT would get my motor running.
any idea from where one can buy global edition phone?
answering my own question
geekbuying is selling global edition for 634 usd.
ibuygou is selling for 625 usd
Eudirect.shop is selling for 600usd
let us kno when you see the mi MIX global up for presale eh?
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let us kno when you see the mi MIX global up for presale eh?
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mi mix is available for pre order 637 usd @ geekbuying and 625usd @ibuygou. however they are not global edition not sure if xiaomi has any plan to release global edition of mi mix. current phone edition will not work properly on US LTE network it will only work on slower data network (2g/3g)
XIAOMI Mix would be quite a experimental phone, IMO, better sit and watch how it works first.
Only Mi Note 2 have bands that might work in the US...Mi Mix don't have it....luckily i not from/living in US and i can use the MI Mix without having to worries about bands
Does anybody know what bands supports usual version (not global)? Does it support LTE band 3 for example?)
Piteryo said:
Does anybody know what bands supports usual version (not global)? Does it support LTE band 3 for example?)
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According to IBuyGou:
Frequency:
FDD-LTE:B1/B3/B5/B7/B8
TDD-LTE:B38/B39/B40/B41
WCDMA:B1/B2/B5/B8
TD-SCDMA:B34/B39
GSM:B2/B3/B5/B8
Also a small note on the Global edition of the Mi Note 2: While it does support Band 12 for T-Mobile, you might not get VoLTE support on that network. Possibly something that one brave buyer may have to experiment and find out.
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Only Mi Note 2 have bands that might work in the US...Mi Mix don't have it....luckily i not from/living in US and i can use the MI Mix without having to worries about bands
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Mi Mix should work pretty well on T-Mobile LTE USA as it supports LTE bands 2 and 4.
http://www.mi.com/mix/specs/
a.cid said:
Also a small note on the Global edition of the Mi Note 2: While it does support Band 12 for T-Mobile, you might not get VoLTE support on that network. Possibly something that one brave buyer may have to experiment and find out.
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I'm definitely gonna get it so I'll be that buyer lol
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i Swore I read somewhere they were also releasing a global version of Mi MIX let me see if I can find it ....
who knows i'm probably wrong
Hoping this is the first step in the direction of releasing US based devices. I like the price point and specs.
Both the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 and the MIX use a Qualcomm Snapdragon chip though, no? Unless I'm mistaken, the frequencies are locked out only on a software level, not a hardware level - I'm sure I've seen a few threads where people have manually added additional frequency bands to their devices to work in different regions of the world (at the risk of bricking their phone, but that's standard disclaimer stuff).
Wouldn't it be possible to purchase a Xiaomi Note 2 or MIX, and then just 'unlock' the bands that they say are not supported?
I'm in for one as soon as available, not happy after giving up Note 7...that was most awesome device. This looks a lot like Note 7...so I'll bite for 600ish
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Wouldn't it be possible to purchase a Xiaomi Note 2 or MIX, and then just 'unlock' the bands that they say are not supported?
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Just choose global version which supports all bands
For those who are wondering about this phone in the US. I have this phone (Global Edition) and have had it for about three months now. I used it on AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon it worked no problem! I had AT&T originally, and it worked fine and even got band 30 in some areas. In my area AT&T speeds were horrible, so I switched to T-Mobile very briefly they had terrible coverage in my area. So I switched to Verizon. I use this phone all the time and get excellent speeds with it. I hope that helps.
This is a warning to all buyers of the Le Max 2 X821 sold by banggood in october / november 2018 with 4/64 GB!
They sold some sort of patchwork phone with bodies of X821 / X820 with suspectful having internals of X829.
Reason:
- Le Eco aka LeTV never build an X820/X821 (for the chinese or indian market) with 4/64 GB - the only model having this combination was the X829 for US
- LTE band 20 is not possible to connect (tested with several SIM cards)
- LTE band 20 cannot be activated (tested several firmwares)
Please test your device and report please!
Suggested app for testing: "Network Signal Guru" from playstore.
1. Root device
2. Start app
3. Grant root privileges to app
4. Tap three-dot-menu (upper right)
5. Select "Lock bands"
6. Select "LTE"
7. App shows usable bands
--> Please post results
Thanks!
I think I bought one of them.. I thought something was weird with the device model and firmware.. Well.. at least it works in my network.. Might get rid of it though as it has the camera problem..
I bought one of those too.
how to do the testing for the actual usable bands to be sure?
gagas1 said:
I think I bought one of them.. I thought something was weird with the device model and firmware.. Well.. at least it works in my network.. Might get rid of it though as it has the camera problem..
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What kind of problem has it with the camera?
knoxwalles said:
I bought one of those too.
how to do the testing for the actual usable bands to be sure?
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Please root device and install the App "Network Signal Guru" from playstore.
Start this app, grant root priviliges. Then tap upper right three-dot-menu.
Then select "Lock bands", then "LTE". After this the app will show the usable bands. Please post result here (screenshot). Thanks.
I got the following bands for my "X821": 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12 and 17 (20 is missing).
For comparison: On my bq M5 I got all bands usable in germany: 1,3,7 and 20 (800 MHz)
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I got the following bands for my "X821": 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12 and 17 (20 is missing).
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Are you referring to this: https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco...8.html?rmmds=search&ID=46149&cur_warehouse=CN ?
But if you scroll down to specs you'll see this:
4G: FDD-LTE: B1(2100)/B3(1800)/B7(2600)
TDD-LTE: B38(2600)/B39(1900)/B40(2300)/B41(2500)
I do not see B20 listed there.
Plus, Max 2 for $130 with 4/64 GB?
That should be a raised red flag, considering the fact that a year ago *real* X821 3/32 GB was selling for $180-190.
Can you return it? I would.
xen2001 said:
Are you referring to this: https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco...8.html?rmmds=search&ID=46149&cur_warehouse=CN ?
But if you scroll down to specs you'll see this:
4G: FDD-LTE: B1(2100)/B3(1800)/B7(2600)
TDD-LTE: B38(2600)/B39(1900)/B40(2300)/B41(2500)
I do not see B20 listed there.
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Yes, I am referring to this. Until yesterday evening B20 was listed there. As I am new here to xda I cannot post screenshots... sorry
Thank you for your warning. :fingers-crossed: I was about to buy this at banggood (same link) and immediatly refrained after seeing your post.
after checking:
1. there is no LTE band 20 in this phone (and yes, when I ordered the phone it had band 20 in the product specs, now removed)
2. only one sim slot is working!!!! NO DUAL SIM!!
3. the box is fake, including the sticker with a production date of 07/2018
4. the charger is only 2A charger compared to the original 3A charger of the X820/X821 I have
the rest of the phone specs are comparable to my other X821, the roms work. it just seems the screen is slightly different in quality. The phone is definitely fake, possibly from the same factory than the original.
I have noticed that charger is not original, but other than that it looks legit.
Both sim slots work and i have 4g , probably my provider has other 4g frequencies too, i use 3g for battery anyways.
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What kind of problem has it with the camera?
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The focus problem. Clicking noise while is trying to focus and many times won't focus properly. Hit and miss. That's in stock ROM. Any other custom ROM is worse
GalaxyFan88 said:
Thank you for your warning. :fingers-crossed: I was about to buy this at banggood (same link) and immediatly refrained after seeing your post.
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You are welcome! It was my intention to warn new buyers.
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The focus problem. Clicking noise while is trying to focus and many times won't focus properly. Hit and miss. That's in stock ROM. Any other custom ROM is worse
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I seem to have luck. Camera is working perfect on my device. But I will check dual-SIM, because other user wrote, on his Le Max 2 it does not work.
I would not call it fake if it is really x829 instead of x821, it is still better than refurbished or real fake. As i remember x829 was more expensive than x820/821, cdla earphones could not be the only reason.
Charger is leeco but i do not know for which model it was for with 1A, charger for my old x600 was 2A.
Milanche78 said:
I would not call it fake if it is really x829 instead of x821, it is still better than refurbished or real fake. As i remember x829 was more expensive than x820/821, cdla earphones could not be the only reason.
Charger is leeco but i do not know for which model it was for with 1A, charger for my old x600 was 2A.
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No earphones included here! I've two of these fake devices with band 20 missing. Band 20 is still an important band in Germany. There is a reason why different models exist. Calling something fake is absolutely legit in this case if someone (banggood) flashes the firmware to pretend it's another device and sells without pointing to this circumstance. I will even go that far to call it a fraud.
Well, I have bought my phone from banggood during that period (rose gold, as it was the only colour available), and two SIM cards work fine in this model, have installed LineageOS 15.1 and it works beautifully and it supports fix for camera focus (pictures are really nice). I have not been able to check B20 yet, though - but I have trusted specifications and I may confirm, that it was listed there, as otherwise I wouldn't have bought this phone. So, it is another example how tough it is to trust the Chinese merchants...
Network Signal Guru lists following available LTE bands on my phone: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12 and B17. Indeed, B20 is missing and what about B38?
Frankly, am very confused - why does Network Signal Guru not list B26, B38, B39, B40 and B41 (sure, they are not used in EU at the moment but shouldn't it be reported by NSG)?
There is a site, which I have relied on - https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-le-max-2 - and it is supposed to show, which phone supports this or that. Now, I am really confused... Sure, that phone is cheap and runs nicely - but nobody likes being lied to.
About Dual Sim: the preloaded rom allows data only in the first slot
Flashing any other rom from XDA solves that issue.
After checking band 20 it turns out the phone does not have it.
We have been fooled by BangGood or is it rather BangBad?
Dear Yerry,
I have LTE access almost everywhere in Poland, but only LTE bands B3, B7 and B8. I am not able to verify, whether there are areas where only B20 is available - and whether my phone would support it. But you cannot, alas, presume that if you have good LTE reception - it means, that B20 is there. There is a nice utility, 'LTE Discovery' which does not require root to report, which LTE band the phone uses at the moment. You may then have a look at its log, and verify which LTE bands were available - you can check there, if your phone has ever switched to B20. Mine has not, however. But, as said above, I do not know much about B20 availability in my country - so can't really tell. Gruesse.
Bought One to replace my old Galaxy Note 4. I check that I stop having 4G coverage with my current operator (Vodafone). This only emits LTE in the B20 band in my locality. So it has no B20 band. We have been deceived by Bangood.
Does someone have screenshots of a X829?
Would be intresting wheter it matches the fake version.
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the 's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
Band 20 missing
4G is ok in the UK with Band 3 and 7. It may have been better if Xiaomi had implemented the Band 20 (800MHz) which is used by most of the antennas.
lapwat said:
4G is ok in the UK with Band 3 and 7. It may have been better if Xiaomi had implemented the Band 20 (800MHz) which is used by most of the antennas.
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How'd u get the K20 pro in the UK? I'd like to purchase one, but just the non-pro variant is being advertised.
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How'd u get the K20 pro in the UK? I'd like to purchase one, but just the non-pro variant is being advertised.
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Got it from wondamobile.com, 1 week delivery from Hong Kong.
The Xiaomi Mi 9T is way cheaper ($295), same specs (as the K20), and supports band 20
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t
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The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.
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The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.
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Where? Afaik it's coming to India after a month and it's the k20 pro.
After that the global version.
No information yet on where they are released I'm sorry, but as a general rule if the country has a xaiomi outlet and it relys on a certain band, the phone variant for that band will be the one sold in it if xaiomi has that variation. That is true for the mi 9t pro.
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The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.
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The latest rumours are that it could be released in Russia sometime next month and in the EU 'after summer'. Not come across rumours for the Pro release in other regions.
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The latest rumours are that it could be released in Russia sometime next month and in the EU 'after summer'. Not come across rumours for the Pro release in other regions.
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I would wait and see, 4G coverage is more than an option for me. I do not need the extra bands here in Thailand but would prefer to have that version over the current mainstream one. I will have to check the support on the XDA community as well first.
The K20 pro is going to be a more popular one for sure if it was released in India
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I would wait and see, 4G coverage is more than an option for me. I do not need the extra bands here in Thailand but would prefer to have that version over the current mainstream one. I will have to check the support on the XDA community as well first.
The K20 pro is going to be a more popular one for sure if it was released in India
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I'm now in Thailand. I've just ordered the K20 Pro. When I'm back in the UK it will be OK to live without band 20. The only difference between the 2, apart from the bands, will be the logo on the back. ROMs will be interchangeable. Xiaomi.eu will be my preferred ROM option until true custom ROMs start emerging, so as I see it, there is no reason to wait for the Mi 9T Pro, especially as it will probably be more expensive.
Agree with you, but might not be as expensive as you think depending on the market, the 9T is a lot cheaper than k20 currently
Has anyone tested the phone in the US?
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Has anyone tested the phone in the US?
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In my area I've been surprised how much LTE I'm getting on AT&T. I was expecting to run it almost entirely on 3G but it's actually picking up really strong LTE on band 5.
facing an issue with youtube and mobile data.
mobile data speed is about 2MB/s(20mbps), when trying to download an app from play store was downloading only at about 200kb/s, now went to the downloads app and put the limitation to 100m, than go back to play store and let it download on mobile data , now the speed is OK, but youtube app is still facing same issue, limited to 200kb/s use of mobile data.
any solution to this software issue ? cannot stream 1080p videos on mobile data and i am getting very dissapointed with this.
Using in UK , no issues (1 month+)
Which state do you live? I live in Virginia but not sure band 5 is strong here
Compared to the pocophone F1, signal strength of Redmi K20 pro is way wore.
I am not getting 4g+ on my k20 pro indian variant on both jio and vodafone. Asus 5z, galaxy s10 and one plus 7 at the same spot at my home catching 4g+.
Just got the phone and inserted my Google Fi sim. The data speeds are horrendous. I live in Orlando, so I'm not in a rural area by any means. The phone is nearly unusable on cellular data, and some apps just time out while attempting to connect to the internet. I ran a speed test and got 0.1 megabit speeds
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Just got the phone and inserted my Google Fi sim. The data speeds are horrendous. I live in Orlando, so I'm not in a rural area by any means. The phone is nearly unusable on cellular data, and some apps just time out while attempting to connect to the internet. I ran a speed test and got 0.1 megabit speeds
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You must be new to international cell phones. You choose a phone with almost 0 compatibility with your current provider.
Has anyone else had this issue???
Last night Verizon pushed the System Update 3 enabling 5G. By wonderful design, they didn't include MY phone. Does anyone know where this file could be hosted or something...? I can't find ****...
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5G not an option now, lost access to LTE
This is bs, but it also means they completely pulled even LTE access...
https://www.androidcentral.com/onep...PU-aLjqp5LaFgAOr6BQUg9iPf3EpWEAW5EeWYA2bAJm10
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This is bull****, but it also means they completely pulled even LTE access...
https://www.androidcentral.com/onep...PU-aLjqp5LaFgAOr6BQUg9iPf3EpWEAW5EeWYA2bAJm10
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Might want to remove that language
Seems Verizon is trying to monopolize where you buy phones, chances are most people don't know about this limitation before they buy it.
Where did you buy your phone from?
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Has anyone else had this issue???
Last night Verizon pushed the System Update 3 enabling 5G. By wonderful design, they didn't include MY phone. Does anyone know where this file could be hosted or something...? I can't find ****...
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You can plug into a pc through usb, in pulldown menu change usb options from charge only to system update, this will open a folder containing verizons upgrade assistant. Here you can find the ota
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Might want to remove that language
Seems Verizon is trying to monopolize where you buy phones, chances are most people don't know about this limitation before they buy it.
Where did you buy your phone from?
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Amazon a couple months ago. Worked just until 11/13. Easy few months of service with minimal issues
so i was researching if i want to get this phone and i found something that might help you. take a look at this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/je9hai/nationwide_5g_on_oneplus_8_pro/ and the instructions here: https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/
I just got a 8 Pro and last night got a system update that seems to have enabled 5g. under connections my automatic network selector now shows an option with 5G added and im getting LTE+ that shows when I'm using data. now my speed test shows I'm getting almost triple my download speeds now at 148Mbs or so down . I honestly wasn't expecting any type of 5g access with how Verizon can be with non-branded devices.
Maybe you need to get the update to have it work like i did but just thought i would share since it just happened
This likely won't help you if you bought Verizon's 8 pro (rather than from OP or Amazon, unlocked). Sorry, but I'll just include the following:
I had been with Verizon for years, and then switched from Samsung to OP 8P. Love the OP. But Verizon poorly supports this device if it's BYOD. I couldn't get VOWifi or VOLTE, among other things.
After searching on XDA, I found the OP 7 Pro logkit.apk and used that for a bit, and it *did* give me VOLTE and VOWifi (you have to use some USSD codes to get to some behind-the-scenes settings, if I recall one code was *#*#INFO#*#* (crap, it may have been #*#*INFO*#*#), that opens up a really cool set of setting windows related to your cell signal, wifi settings, etc.
Ultimate super-awesome fix? I ditched Verizon and wen't with T-Mobile. (after 20 years with ATT or VZW).
Wow!! Instant wide-coverage 5G that actually works, instant support for VOWifi and VOLTE, and visual voicemail that works too. I love it.
So, I'm sorry OP (Original Poster)(not OnePlus), I realize this may not help you directly, but I really do feel your frustration, and just wanted to share my experience. Maybe someone may be helped a bit. And, no, I don't work for any telecom co. My job requires good phone signal etc and it has to be reliable, thus my taking a chance on T-Mobile.
Best wishes.
Oh hey original poster, the link you put is the one I looked at before switching carriers, because it said T-Mobile was the best for OP8P, and I agree completely. Good tech support too.
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OnePlus 8 and 8 Pro on T-Mobile 5G
As you may have expected, T-Mobile is the best-supported carrier for the OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8 Pro. The unlocked models of both phones support T-Mobile's Sub-6 5G network, meaning you'll get the same network access as many of the phones it sells directly. T-Mobile's Sub-6 5G is the portion of the network that operates on lower frequencies, and has the widest coverage — you'll find its Sub-6 5G layering most of the same footprint as its LTE network.
The phones also support Sprint's mid-band Sub-6 network, which was the core reason T-Mobile purchased Sprint in the first place. So as T-Mobile starts to integrate Sprint's spectrum into its new larger network, the OnePlus 8 and 8 Pro are ready for it.
5G on T-Mobile: Everything you need to know
Curiously, though, neither phone supports T-Mobile's mmWave 5G network, which is admittedly small right now but is a main pillar of its overall 5G rollout nationwide — particularly in dense cities. This is even the case for the OnePlus 8 that T-Mobile will be selling directly, which is a head-scratcher.
For most people, Sub-6 5G is more important, especially in the next year, because T-Mobile's mmWave network is very small and only available in parts of a handful of cities. But it will become more and more important, so if you plan on keeping your OnePlus 8 for a couple of years, keep in mind that you won't have access to T-Mobile's whole 5G network as it grows.
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I just bought the OP 8 Pro from one plus and the only thing not working VOwifi but VOLTE is working fine and so is visual VM and now so is 5G for me yay . I do know when you BYOD you need to chat with support and provision your line for CDMA-Less if that's not added to your line things will not work there is a way to get VoWifi working but i never used it on my other phones so not really a big issue for me. i can see it being an issue for people with bad signal at home. i have had good luck using phones on VZW as long as they were certified as allowed on their network
Kind of related, I have a OnePlus 8 IN2013 on Verizon (if you are wondering why the EU model its because it was the only model I could find in Onyx Black) LTE and everything works fine on it but I wonder if I can get low band 5g enabled using the method posted further up. I already know I cant get mmwave 5g and honestly dont care but I cant for the life of me find what bands Verizon is using for their low band 5g