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So when using 5g on 600mhz, I get 13mb download. When I switch to 4g, I get 120mb download. I think what is happening is 5g and 4g don't carrier aggregate, so your only getting a single channel download. So bottom line? Turn off 5g. What a waste

Sucks
Glad i have very low expectations for 5G. Dont mind turning it off at all if i have to. Still curious to see how good/bad it ll be since i work in a major city.

Djapatos said:
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Glad i have very low expectations for 5G. Dont mind turning it off at all if i have to. Still curious to see how good/bad it ll be since i work in a major city.
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I work in Manhattan, and I heard there's a decent amount of mw 5g for tmo. Right now I'm out on li, so I get fake 5g. Lol. It's actually slower, which I don't understand
With the poor night vision, and sht 5g, probably just gonna return it, keep my pixel 4

VZTech said:
so I get fake 5g.
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You're getting AT&T 5Ge? Strange.
600mhz isn't fake 5G, it's real, it's within in spec. Just because you get slower speeds doesn't make it fake. As you said, very likely it's a CA thing.

_Dennis_ said:
You're getting AT&T 5Ge? Strange.
600mhz isn't fake 5G, it's real, it's within in spec. Just because you get slower speeds doesn't make it fake. As you said, very likely it's a CA thing.
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Well, yes, I guess it's technically 5g. Just sucks that it's actually slower than 4g. Oh well.

VZTech said:
Well, yes, I guess it's technically 5g. Just sucks that it's actually slower than 4g. Oh well.
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lol. ya n71 is not good for speed. you gonna have wait until they start using mmwave. tmo is def good in the city. i remember when i used tmo in midtown lte was pretty good

Same, I get around 30mbps with lte and only about 18mbps with 5g, quite annoying

My opinion(results may vary elsewhere and I could be wrong) but in my area of Ohio, there are certain areas that have 4glte and no 5g and some small gaps in 4glte that now have 5g. I think its more to fill in the gaps of coverage. I personally love it and it isnt super fast but is good enough for me to have coverage in the areas that I travel with minimal dead areas.
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sunmybun said:
lol. ya n71 is not good for speed. you gonna have wait until they start using mmwave. tmo is def good in the city. i remember when i used tmo in midtown lte was pretty good
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I'll do some 5g speed tests on T-mobile when my Ultra Unlocked comes in today. I live in Greenville, S.C. The reviews I read for T-mobile on the Ultra in New York City said the the speed was about 100mbps+ for LTE and about 130-140mbps+ for sub6. Nothing extradorinary but better than LTE. Makes me wonder why your seeing such low 30mbps speeds.

Paul_Deemer said:
I'll do some 5g speed tests on T-mobile when my Ultra Unlocked comes in today. I live in Greenville, S.C. The reviews I read for T-mobile on the Ultra in New York City said the the speed was about 100mbps+ for LTE and about 130-140mbps+ for sub6. Nothing extradorinary but better than LTE. Makes me wonder why your seeing such low 30mbps speeds.
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Low speeds due to no ca when on 5g. It literally turns it off. If I set it to 4g, I get 100mb dl. 5g is a complete shtshow. Early adopters, it is what it is. I just keep it set to 4g.

VZTech said:
Low speeds due to no ca when on 5g. It literally turns it off. If I set it to 4g, I get 100mb dl. 5g is a complete shtshow. Early adopters, it is what it is. I just keep it set to 4g.
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What is ca?

Paul_Deemer said:
What is ca?
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Carrier aggregation.

Here's what I'm calling "real" 5g...millwave....

VZTech said:
I work in Manhattan, and I heard there's a decent amount of mw 5g for tmo. Right now I'm out on li, so I get fake 5g. Lol. It's actually slower, which I don't understand
With the poor night vision, and sht 5g, probably just gonna return it, keep my pixel 4
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Why don't you return it and save you and the rest of us from hearing your constant complaints about the handset?

jonboi said:
Why don't you return it and save you and the rest of us from hearing your constant complaints about the handset?
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I have 15 days to try it out. Thought people might want real world tests. Not paid ones.

I have to agree....the 5G here in Phoenix is really bad. south phoenix, tempe and ahwatukee. Did a few speed test in each area. Garbage.

Sub-6 5g was never about great download speeds, and I for one prefer t-mobile going the way they did (focusing on sub 6 before millimeter wave).
sub 6 5g is the lowest frequency band you can get, millimeter wave is highest frequency you can get. Lower frequency signals pass through objects much better than higher frequency signals, they also travel farther than high frequency signals.
The real world translation is that sub 6 is essentially getting data a hair faster than 4g but because it penetrates walls and objects better as well as travels much farther, it should translate to getting a better signal in more places. With millimeter wave, you literally have to have line of sight to a tower to get decent signal..... line.of.sight.
I, for one, would rather have better signal strength in more places than blazing fast speeds when you're standing on this one street corner facing a specific direction. I realistically only see millimeter wave being rolled out to high density areas like stadiums or temporary roll-outs for things like political events or festivals.
Sub 6 is a much better technology for real day to day usage, the only reason I see Verizon to implement millimeter wave before sub 6 was for marketing, so they can claim they have the fastest network.

Note to VZTech:
mmWave is never going to be the "Real" 5G. It can't. It requires a microwave transmitter installed literally on every block and a fiber back-haul from that location to the central office. That infrastructure doesn't exist and will never exist as it will cost each carrier hundreds of billions of dollars, except perhaps in dense urban areas(directional boring is expensive). That is why everyone is focusing on midband as the next threshold to implement - that is the reason for the merge of Sprint (they have tons of midband) and T-Mobile. Verizon has midband to redeploy and AT&T is currently deploying low and midband for the same reasons. Your Ultra will address all of it currently being deployed. If I was on Verizon, I would want a carrier based phone to handle future changes not yet announced.
As to the current T-Mobile 5G, I have a T-Mobile Note 10 + 5G (same modem but no mmWave antenna) and an Ultra in route. After receiving the phone I drove over wide areas in the Chicago suburbs and I saw ranges from very low to well over 200 Mbps. CA is part on the carrier side and part on the phone side. Since you are one of the ones testing it, have you contacted either Samsung or, more importantly, T-Mobile tech support? Perhaps there is a software issue on the phone. Perhaps there is an issue in your area that needs to be addressed. Remember, that until this week, very few people in the entire country (just those buying the Note 10+5G and the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren edition) have been on it. I would not be surprised that there are still bugs to be shaken out on these phones and on the network as a whole. I had to call in my area about that and T-Mobile made some changes. YMMV, but it is worth a call. I wouldn't pass judgement until after I had spoken to T-Mobile and they agreed that what you are getting is all you will get.

I get 1-2mpbs down with 5g enabled and 70mbps+ down with LTE (4g) turned off and 5g disabled. I think this is a software issue where it should be switching to LTE for higher download speeds and 5g when there is coverage issues.

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I get 1-2mpbs down with 5g enabled and 70mbps+ down with LTE (4g) turned off and 5g disabled. I think this is a software issue where it should be switching to LTE for higher download speeds and 5g when there is coverage issues.
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This is due to no ca between "5g"600mhz, and 4g lte. Just turn off 5g. It's useless in most places.

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We'll be on 3G a lot:..How does Sprint's compare to At&t?

Even in Chicagoo...I've picked up that I'll be on 3G a fair amount of the time especially indoors....
Ha anyone had a chance to do a fair comparison of At&t and Sprints 3G networks please?
I have Nex1 on At&t and am really happy with network data transfer....would hate to take a step back!
Thanks for anyone's experienceswith this.
There's no way you will take a step back. CDMA 3g (EVDO) is tons faster than GSM 3G. It's just faster period. With TMo 3G in my area I was getting 800kb/s which was insane for Tmo. Normally ATT gets a lot worse. I only got those speeds because TMo wasn;t used around here. In Philly I got a lot less. Now Sprint on the other hand gets me at least 1MB/s average use in my area or in Philly. Also Sprint has the fastest internet period. Faster than Verizon too. So when you do get 4G it will be even better than that. But expect at least 1MB/s speeds and possibly a lot more depending where you are.
Well that's great news! But my At&t 3G here in Chicago is rarely under 1M on the Nexus.
Speedtests often have it over 2M. Ive heard only mediocre reports of Sprints network but if Evdo is at those speeds consistantly I'll be a happy camper on 3G!
Sprints network is much more consistent. One thing you have to remember is many times when those speed tests are taken several times in a row is caching can skew the results. I've found sprint to be far more reliable here in se florida. I can remember having to switch to edge many times during prime time because my iphone would just sit there waiting to load on 3g.
LI too am concerned about sprints data speeds. Here in Minneapolis on AT&T's 3g network I always get 1.4+. I easily get over 2 late at night. My friends hero on sprint gets 7-800k 100% of the time. My AT&T 3g only drops to 7-800k when I'm in the far out suburbs. Both the hero and my 3gs are running the speedtest.net app from their respective app stores.
There is a reason AT&T advertises the countries fastest 3g netwok.
chuckhriczko said:
There's no way you will take a step back. CDMA 3g (EVDO) is tons faster than GSM 3G. It's just faster period. With TMo 3G in my area I was getting 800kb/s which was insane for Tmo. Normally ATT gets a lot worse. I only got those speeds because TMo wasn;t used around here. In Philly I got a lot less. Now Sprint on the other hand gets me at least 1MB/s average use in my area or in Philly. Also Sprint has the fastest internet period. Faster than Verizon too. So when you do get 4G it will be even better than that. But expect at least 1MB/s speeds and possibly a lot more depending where you are.
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That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.
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That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.
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Not true at all, cdma is fundamentally superior to gsm. GSM is used around the world because it is the cheaper older technology.
TickLe MY eLMo said:
That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.
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IMO at&t is crap, the only reason they are even semi-popular is because they got the iphone on a 4-year contract with apple. Biggest complaint of iphone users is the dropped calls with at&t.
I just switch myself from at&t to Sprint and also got HTV EVO I use to be iPhone Owner
now iPhone is a good phone but coz of at&t networks piece of **** ... but man I m loving EVO its amazing ..
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IMO at&t is crap, the only reason they are even semi-popular is because they got the iphone on a 4-year contract with apple. Biggest complaint of iphone users is the dropped calls with at&t.
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My biggest complaint is in fact dropped calls. Maybe 1 or 2 a month, but the data speeds I see with At&t are much, much faster than Sprint or Verizon in*MY* area. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/62NT3_cZ7mz7n3hZf0GafQ?feat=directlink During the day I get 1.4+, but I generally test late late a night when I get home from work.
I spend 90% of my time using data on my phone, so the slower Sprint/Verizon network in *MY* area is a real concern for me. A dropped call now and then isn't.
I have the at&t N1 and get 2Mbps+ on avarage.
With Sprint (i have the EVO that was given at google I/O) i get really bad speeds on EVDO (with good signal)
I have never yet seen it go over 1Mbps. ususally get 300Kbps and i tested in mutiple places.
This is considered VERY slow and i really hope this is just an issue with the radio of the EVO whcih can be fixed.
Damnit..... Just what I was afraid of.
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I have the at&t N1 and get 2Mbps+ on avarage.
With Sprint (i have the EVO that was given at google I/O) i get really bad speeds on EVDO (with good signal)
I have never yet seen it go over 1Mbps. ususally get 300Kbps and i tested in mutiple places.
This is considered VERY slow and i really hope this is just an issue with the radio of the EVO whcih can be fixed.
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rockky said:
Damnit..... Just what I was afraid of.
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My sig is my average speed using USB tether on my Hero from my house in knoxville TN...
sometimes i break 2.25 mb down on late nights when the network doesnt have much traffic

T-mobile updating 16 devices to faster speed!?

OK so I just payed my bill at my local T-mobile store, and I saw a poster saying 16 tmobile devices will have 4g capability or something in those words... So I asked the tmobile employee what the poster is all about. He said there are 16 devices that tmobile will be updating so they can have faster 3g or 4g speed.... He said for vibrant the 3g should get faster but its not going to be 4g sicnce it doesnt have the capability to be 4g...... plus Vibrant was one of those phones on the poster as well as other smart phones.
No Im not trying to spam or create new rumors. Im actually a newb in these threads and was curious if anyone heard of this.... Or if it has anything to do with second update that some people are receiving?
As the employee said expect ota update that would increase the speed
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
lolcopter said:
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
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well im pretty confused by all this myself but.. Since they have the tmobile official posters in their tmobile stores it means it has to be pretty soon.. w.e it is...
I just went and tested my speed with speedtest.net app and it shows 2284kbps download and 1337 upload.... is it suppose to be even faster soon?
I may be wrong but I believe you guys are misunderstanding the posters.
I think this is what T-Mobile is trying to say.
All current 3G phones will get a speed boost once your area has been fully upgraded to HSPA+ Although most phones that T-Mobile currently carries are not HSPA+ except for the G2 and MyTouch 4G, these non-HSPA+ phones will still benefit from HSPA+ network upgrades.
Make sense?
Also T-Mobiles 4G network is NOT 4G, False advertising. Same with Sprint Wimax.
SamsungVibrant said:
Also T-Mobiles 4G network is NOT 4G, False advertising. Same with Sprint Wimax.
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According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
Either way...no one is promising 4g speed to vibrant... Just faster 3g... Did anyone great of this? Coz I dont want to start a thread where people are arguimg what 4g is and what its not... And I live in NYC... So I believe 4g towers are set up here already.. Tmobile rep confused the crap out of me... As they usually do... Can't even understand their own advertisement
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thats interesting because at my work for the last year I could only get about 900kbps down and 300 up. For some reason for the last 3 weeks I could not keep a solid connection even though the 3g symbol was present. I thought it was my vibrant or the rom I had flashed the night before (rom junkie) but two of my employees have Tmobile as well and they were experiencing the same thing. All of a sudden as of Saturday I am now getting speeds in the 4mb range and its freaking awesome. I have another employee with a 4g Evo and I kill him everytime. Go Tmobile! Vibrant w/4g speeds and now froyo and wifi calling= the best Android phone on the market.
Your statements contradict eachother!
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According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
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I never said any of the US carriers currently have 4G. In fact, I said exactly what you stated. I said neither Sprint's Wimax, nor T-Mobiles HSPA+ is 4G.
Also your statements contradict each other. You claim according to the ITU, no us carrier has 4G, yet T-Mobile advertising as the "largest 4G network" in the nation is honest advertising? HUH? LOL, do you not see the contradiction in your own statements?
How can you be the largest 4G network, if according to you, the ITU says no US carriers have 4G at the current moment. As a result, any carrier claiming they have 4G would be falsely advertising such said information.
I'm sorry but it shocks me when people overlook the obvious, how can you write a statement and contradict yourself?
btw hspa+ SPEEDS are not true 4G speeds.
short answer, they upgrade network we benefit.
Thegreatheed said:
According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
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It is absolutely FALSE advertising. 4G networks are IMT ADVANCED based, which includes LTE Advanced and WiMax Advanced. This means that ABSOLUTELY zero networks in the world are, and in the next year or two, ever will be 4G. To be a 4G solution, it has to be a 100% IP (aka packet switched with absolutely NO circuit switched voice) based solution. Also, do I need to mention that the "true" 4G speeds you are talking about, are slow in comparison to what IMT Advanced based architectures will be.
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Either way...no one is promising 4g speed to vibrant... Just faster 3g... Did anyone great of this? Coz I dont want to start a thread where people are arguimg what 4g is and what its not... And I live in NYC... So I believe 4g towers are set up here already.. Tmobile rep confused the crap out of me... As they usually do... Can't even understand their own advertisement
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As mentioned they are not 4G. Plain and simple. T-Mobile has made it VERY clear that they are not currently seeking any LTE plans for the very near future, and as such, are rolling out HSPA+ in an effort to increase the speeds at a (relatively) low cost. Due to the fact that Sprint is using the 4G moniker, and advertising speeds similar to what T-Mobile will have on offer (using HSPA+), they are doing the same bull**** marketing that Sprint is.
If you want me to cite some info, I can.
lolcopter said:
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
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So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
AlexSochi8 said:
So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
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There are reports of getting as high as 15Mbps in areas with a good HSPA+ coverage on the G2. I presume that 7Mbps, or near there should be very achievable on our phones.
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There are reports of getting as high as 15Mbps in areas with a good HSPA+ coverage on the G2. I presume that 7Mbps, or near there should be very achievable on our phones.
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thats pretty amazing then... then I wouldnt complain about some phones having "4G" speed
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It is absolutely FALSE advertising. 4G networks are IMT ADVANCED based, which includes LTE Advanced and WiMax Advanced. This means that ABSOLUTELY zero networks in the world are, and in the next year or two, ever will be 4G. To be a 4G solution, it has to be a 100% IP (aka packet switched with absolutely NO circuit switched voice) based solution. Also, do I need to mention that the "true" 4G speeds you are talking about, are slow in comparison to what IMT Advanced based architectures will be.
As mentioned they are not 4G. Plain and simple. T-Mobile has made it VERY clear that they are not currently seeking any LTE plans for the very near future, and as such, are rolling out HSPA+ in an effort to increase the speeds at a (relatively) low cost. Due to the fact that Sprint is using the 4G moniker, and advertising speeds similar to what T-Mobile will have on offer (using HSPA+), they are doing the same bull**** marketing that Sprint is.
If you want me to cite some info, I can.
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I agree with you in one respect, ITU ruled that HSPA+ is not a 4G network. However, what with Sprint and their false advertising, it's easy to see why T-Mobile would label their data network as 4G for one reason. The same towers that are being upgraded to the theoretical max of 21mbps have the capacity for even higher speeds. Up to 168mbps actually, if you want to get specific. All on the towers they already have. Pretty much explains their decision to forgo LTE for the time being huh? So while yes, their network isn't a "true" 4G network, no one can argue that they're lying about achieving 4G and higher speeds (even higher than WiMax).
well i hope the reception will be better. i'm fine with a download speed of 2-3 mbps as long as it's stable. I have to stay on one corner of our house to have a 3G.
Homestar1217 said:
I agree with you in one respect, ITU ruled that HSPA+ is not a 4G network. However, what with Sprint and their false advertising, it's easy to see why T-Mobile would label their data network as 4G for one reason. The same towers that are being upgraded to the theoretical max of 21mbps have the capacity for even higher speeds. Up to 168mbps actually, if you want to get specific. All on the towers they already have. Pretty much explains their decision to forgo LTE for the time being huh? So while yes, their network isn't a "true" 4G network, no one can argue that they're lying about achieving 4G and higher speeds (even higher than WiMax).
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They are absolutely lying. You can't achieve, from a device, anything above a theoretical maximum of 84Mbps with bonding AND MIMO. Otherwise, you are stick at 42Mbps with JUST boding, and 21.5 with no bonding or MIMO. 4G is officially designated at 100Mbps while moving at high speed and 1Gbps while static. You aren't going to see bonding and MIMO at all, because that requires a HUGE increase in the backhaul capabilities (100GbE minimum), and all new antennas and base stations. This is just not happening.
iynfynity said:
well i hope the reception will be better. i'm fine with a download speed of 2-3 mbps as long as it's stable. I have to stay on one corner of our house to have a 3G.
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T-Mobile has been significantly improving their coverage area over the last 5 years, and it is far better than when I first had it. In due time, they will cover most of the US.
yeah, Edge is good for me but of course 3G is what i'm paying for so i hope that the reception will be better in my place.
My speed on my stock Vibrant seems to have improved just recently. Sitting inside my house in the Seattle area tonight the Speedtest.net app gave results of: 5.3-5.4 Mbps down and 1.6-1.7 Mbps up. That was the range for several successive trials. The weird thing was that when I laid the phone down on my desk, the speed dropped down to about 3.2 Mbps down and 0.70 Mbps up. When I picked it up and held it in my hand again, the speed climbed right back up to the higher range, which I verified several times. Coincidence, or could there be some body-phone-antenna thing going on?
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My speed on my stock Vibrant seems to have improved just recently. Sitting inside my house in the Seattle area tonight the Speedtest.net app gave results of: 5.3-5.4 Mbps down and 1.6-1.7 Mbps up. That was the range for several successive trials. The weird thing was that when I laid the phone down on my desk, the speed dropped down to about 3.2 Mbps down and 0.70 Mbps up. When I picked it up and held it in my hand again, the speed climbed right back up to the higher range, which I verified several times. Coincidence, or could there be some body-phone-antenna thing going on?
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No, your phone is probably cycling through two different towers. Check to see if your CID changes (Ever) in your home.
AlexSochi8 said:
So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
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By my old place in Brooklyn I was getting up to 5Mbs down back in July, but my apartment was like a Faraday Cage, by my folks in Brooklyn I am constantly getting up to 5.5Mbs, and at my new place in South Brooklyn I am back to harsh reality with 1.1Mbs at best.
These are the download speeds, upload is usually stays the same at around 1.3Mbs

T-mobile 5g speed test a mile from the Hudson River on the New Jersey side.

On tmobile
5g speed test a mile from the Hudson River on the New Jersey side.
This test was taken in my car by the way.
this is a terrible result
Yeah,
Just got my S20Plus yesterday, 5g where I live not too good either, got 47dl and 23ul. Today I will be closer to a bigger city and test it there.
I think all the hoopla about 5g is crap,
Ken
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kenfb1 said:
Yeah,
Just got my S20Plus yesterday, 5g where I live not too good either, got 47dl and 23ul. Today I will be closer to a bigger city and test it there.
I think all the hoopla about 5g is crap,
Ken
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Ok,
Best I got so far in my area was 80.8 DL and 31.7UL.
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kenfb1 said:
Ok,
Best I got so far in my area was 80.8 DL and 31.7UL.
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P.S. This is on Tmobile
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On tmobile
5g speed test a mile from the Hudson River on the New Jersey side.
This test was taken in my car by the way.
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I'm getting like 30dl and 8ul in ft Lauderdale. I figured it would be way better. First day the speed test app was showing 80+dl but ever since it has been significantly less. T-Mobile as well.
Y'all are getting some horrible "5g" speeds. That's basically what I get on LTE. This is what I've been getting so far. Still not really close to that 1gb/sec speed advertised, but much faster than my S10+ was.
Edit: I'm in Dallas, on Sprint network.
mistermidas said:
Y'all are getting some horrible "5g" speeds. That's basically what I get on LTE. This is what I've been getting so far. Still not really close to that 1gb/sec speed advertised, but much faster than my S10+ was.
Edit: I'm in Dallas, on Sprint network.
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How is the speed indoors? Maybe when tmobile and sprint merge we will be happy lol
fearbasel04 said:
How is the speed indoors? Maybe when tmobile and sprint merge we will be happy lol
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In spots where I get 5g, it's basically the same.
I disabled 5G and the speeds I get a quite a bit higher.
So there is no 5g where I live but lte at my house is awesome
New high speed for me, once again Dallas area.
Illinois University village speeds on T-Mobile
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So it seems t-mobile merger with sprint helped. My speeds have doubled through out the day.
kenfb1 said:
I think all the hoopla about 5g is crap
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T-mobile's push into 600Mhz 5g is more about coverage and building penetration than it is about speed increases. Speed increases should come as they expand into Sprint's mid-band spectrum. The significantly increased efficiency of 5g should also help when lots of people pack into special events that would have overloaded 4g airwaves.
I can say that I have noticed some reduced drop-outs inside some troublesome buildings.
fearbasel04 said:
So it seems t-mobile merger with sprint helped. My speeds have doubled through out the day.
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Can't wait for this to get to Phoenix. Though in actuality, I don't know that I'll notice much. Only time I use provider data is when I'm streaming music in the car. All other times I have WiFi. Well, at least 98% of the time. But it'll still be nice those rare times I need it, as long as I'm not paying any more than I do for LTE.

5G Mclaren Edition Tmobile

Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
albaniandroid said:
Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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I am using it in an area that was pretty weak, and it is working pretty good. It should get much better as the Sprint mid-range frequencies are turned on.
I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
last update added band n41, it's even listed on t-mobile site
I came to correct my post. I see that it can handle it just not mmwave or whatever they call it. Which I heard you can't get that through buildings. I only use my phone when I'm indoors
cgrimm9 said:
I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
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It is, Sprint has the midband that will be used by Tmo for 5G.
Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
ErickF said:
Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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T-Mobile's 5G implementation is still pretty new and I've noticed that 5 g can sometimes be slower than LTE. That being said, I suspect that T-Mobile will improve this with time. What is nice is that 5G networks are exclusive to 5G capable phones, meaning congestion can sometimes be better, at least from my understanding. I'm glad to see US carriers finally embracing 5G, despite the fact that it may not be as capable as international variants. Time will tell if we see any significant improvements with 5G coverage.
I have noticed significant improvements in coverage when traveling. My job requires I travel around a lot, since I do electrical work for cell phone towers. Historically,4G LTE coverage with T-Mobile has been spotty in certain parts of the country, but comparing my Pixel 3a XL with LTE coverage versus my McLaren 5G has shown a huge improvement and overall coverage and speed!there have been times where my pixel will get around 5 mbps vs my OP7T Pro McLaren 5G will be hitting well into 80+!
I have seen improvement also. I had to use a TMo booster in my house it was so bad. I have turned it off now.
I sometimes turn off 5G and get better speeds on LTE. But I checked a spectrum map, TMobile doesn't have enough low band spectrum in my specific geographic region. Completing the Sprint merger should help with that, and the 7t McLaren can support the Sprint frequencies with just a software update.
Fortunately I spend almost no time in cities where mmWave would matter, that's the only thing this phone can't do that other 5g phones can.
I have 5g in my rural town but the past two days the network has been acting up they might be working on the towers or something. Even my 4glte kicks of and on including my 5g.....
In my geography 5g is slower than 4g, but I checked a spectrum map and Tmo only has the minimum possible low band spectrum in my city and region. I've heard 5g works better if Tmo has 20mhz or more, and the addition of Dish licencing deals and Sprint spectrum is supposed to help later in 2020.
Anyway I'm usually just staying home using WiFi so it doesn't matter that much at the moment.
I get 110 mbs a second wear side of town and 30 mbs middle of town with 5g but I have a constant connection with 5g with 4g lte I sometimes have to reload pages cause of congestion

Sprint/T-mobile Internet speeds.

Sprint users have you noticed faster internet speeds? I received an update on 4/22 follow by the message about T-mobile allowing us to tap into their 5G. However, this afternoon when i got home my browsing was a bit snappy. I did a speed test on two different apps and was pulling 140 to 160 Mbps where before I was only getting 12-24 Mbps.
I got the same text, unfortunately I still have yet to get a software update to use the 5g from tmobile.
I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?
I haven't got 5g didn't connect to 5g for a few mins while traveling, I have noticed through signal checker being on band 2 lte at home very crappy sprint lte after profile and prl update so have been able to test speeds, before update I had excellent service on sprint
I had the software upgrade earlier this month. Today at work I had crappy service sending and receiving texts and slow network speeds. Now at home my status bar shows Sprint|SPRINT and have 5g. But with speeds of 2.5 up and .5 down at best.
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Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PMActually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
You: 9:09PMSo I am not the only customer with this issue in this area?
Tim B: 9:09PMYou are right.
You: 9:10PMSo I should keep my network set to 4g and avoid 5g until further notice?
Tim B: 9:10PMYou are correct.
I took a few speed tests while connected to 5G in north Florida. at best 24mbps, throughout the day it's around 1-3mbps. I'm assuming it's on one of t-mobiles low bands.
edit: I was on band 2. I used that app in another thread to only select a few to choose from, it jumped on band 66 and speeds ~100mbps. Nice.
ajent said:
I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?
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You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...
mistermidas said:
You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...
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I agree?
sanmanc said:
Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PM Actually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
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Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.
sublimaze said:
Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.
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Yeah, I don't really notice a huge speed difference. But I purposely went to three areas in my city that I usually don't get any reception or bad reception, and I was able to a decent signal now. So I'm definitely glad about that, since I do Doordash part-time and need my internet to work doing those deliveries.
At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.
I am on Sprint and getting 5G. At night, I got 71.4Mbps speed. I don't exactly remember the day but I think it was around 30-35Mbps
stevessvt said:
At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.
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80 is about right for tmo/spr nationwide 5g.. u have to keep in mind theres 3 different 5g networks.. nationwide uses the low end which allows for more coverage but slower speeds which is what most are on..
sprint was using mid band which i pulled over 500 consistently (im in phoenix) but since the merger and about 2 weeks ago they cut the mid band from sprint in favor of tmo 5g network making my s10 5g and 7pro5g no longer able to connect to 5g networm as theyre not compatible..
basically cureently most are stuck with low band nationwide 5g as they expand their mid range and only certain urban areas will get mmWave which is 1gb+ speeds..
mmWave requires thousands of towers in covered areas as it doesnt have as much range..
what i am saying is itll get better as time goes and most other carriers dont even have a 5g connection across the us so tmo is ahead of the game..
also dont expect 1gb+ mmwave 5g anytime soon or at all unless u live in an urban area
avid_droid said:
My 4g at work has greatly improved at 208mb/s download and a not so great 14mb/s upload. That's here in Hawaii.
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thats bot bad at all
You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...
chetly968 said:
You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...
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lmao
sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.
elliwigy said:
lmao
sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.
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Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.
chetly968 said:
Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.
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not sure when u read that but if it was a while ago then it mightve changed since u last read it.
avid_droid said:
I don't know about the who's or whats,but, elliwigy, you working on.a root or is it unable? Haha. I would try seeking internal stuff,but, over the past few years, I've gotten extremely lazy. And almost a year in jail made me forget about a lot of stuff.
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It was last week. But I guess, again, when they say something they obviously mean the opposite of what they said. Those New York residents are just magically getting increased speeds.
Since the merger my speeds doubled since March. I am on tmobile five miles from NYC. Basically the other side of the Hudson River in NJ. 120mbps up and 60mbs down. Its not the greatest but its still good.

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